| With this season's newly adapted All Out!! and Yuri!!! on Ice (plus yet another season of Haikyuu!), the male audience of anime has yet again risen in to an uproar on sports anime; the largest portion of the male audience believes these titles are shounen ai, or even pushing it as far as calling them yaoi. Why? I do not know. They are not — I have watched Kuroko no Basket, One Outs, Free!, Prince of Stride and Yowamushi Pedal, and none of these series show any indication of homosexual encounters or romance between male characters. Believe it or not, but most sports anime are categorized as shounen and seinen, meaning they are mostly targeted at a male audience. Their manga are likely even to be featured in the widely acclaimed Weekly Shōnen Jump, which is again, primarily targeted at young men and men in general. The mindset of a lot of young males on this subject just feels like a result of this twisted view on homosexuality. Looking at a group of men entertaining themselves through friendship and sports, does not make one homosexual. When you happen to look at a swimming team and the men happen to only wear slim trunks —as is, well; necessary in swimming sports—, does this make you homosexual? No, it does not. Now, I cannot speak for the male sex, but I find it disturbing how little tolerance the male gender seems to have toward viewing their own sex. Seeing a topless male is suddenly 'gay', and any group of men who are friendly with one another must all be 'gay'. I have never received a clear answer on this as I can only speculate about the prudish view on a same-sex perspective of heterosexual men, but why is it so problematic for you Martians to either witness another pleasant-looking man, or to be present in the same environment as a handsome —I feel I have to mention appearance, seeing as this feels like something that either intimidates men or urges them to think of someone as 'gay'— man? I have even heard of young men on actual sports teams either showering with their boxers on, or refusing to shower at all. As a woman, I can logically (well — as logical as this can get) come to three conclusions; 1. You are afraid that other men in the changing room are homosexual, and they develop feelings of lust or romance to you if they witness your naked self - 2. You are afraid that witnessing other naked men might inspire homosexual feelings within you - 3. You are suffering from some sort of distorted body image of yourself and fear that others will laugh at your naked self. Now, I have strayed from my own initial point, as in none of the anime I mentioned earlier feature any unclothed men in an inappropriate setting (Yuri!!! on Ice's pilot did show a shot of a character rising from a bath, but this was at an onsen — meaning the setting calls for a culturally appropriate usage of nudity), but looking deeper in to the subject, I feel like there are a lot more underlying developments that causes a lot of men to think this way. Men and women, please share your thoughts — any are welcome. |
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| Many modern all-male sports Anime tend to want bring in as many female fans as they can, by adding "Stuff" that females find attractive in them. The "Stuff" I'm referring to, is what leads many males to refer to all-male sports Anime as Yaoi, although many of them are actually joking around. I mean, in "All Out!!," there's nothing masculine about the "Backsides." |
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| There have already been spoilers released of Yuri!! on Ice. Things are going to get gayer. Like probably undeniably gay. But I agree that not all male sports anime are gay. |
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| yes ,not all sports anime are yaoi i avoid them because they dont interest me btw Yuri!!! on Ice is so gay you cant deny it , blaming boys for avoiding is stupid |
tragedydesuOct 7, 2016 5:37 PM
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| Someone saying all out and haikyuu has yaoi? Well that's the first time I've heard of that. |
| Yuri on Ice is heavily pandering to the fujoshi crowd, little scenes like this will make them flood their panties. And don't get me wrong, I loved the first episode and I'm a guy. Anyways, it's more like a meme at this point. I find the trend rapidly grew around the time with Kuroko no Basket, with Production IG's great animation and super bishounen character designs. K-Project was a pretty popular target as well being released in the same year as KnB. I'm sure there were plenty of BL shippers already, but overall, the fujoshis weren't really that abundant, at least not enough to 'bother' people. That changed with the release of Free!'s commercial 'Suiei-hen' a few months into 2013. Fujoshis flooded sites like tumblr posting non stop gifs and fanart and when it got announced, well, let's just say it went over the top and affected everyone else too. And it's not like it applies only to anime either. That's how I see how the 'every sport anime with a large male cast is yaoi' trend started. tl;dr - It's just a stupid meme, there are still plenty of guys who watch new sport anime. |
| Kuroko, Stride and Free have undeniably gay undertones. It may not be shonen-ai, but it panders to the same audience. Of course they're not yaoi, but same difference anyway. |
| Or you know? 4.You're just fucking SHY and easily embarrassed? Cuz those are thing as well you know, it doesn't have to do with fear of homosexuality of anything... You're right about everyone calling stuff gay at the slightest possibility of it...But it's for a fact that some sports anime are indeed full of what is called manservice, which is basically fanservice directed at the female audience...Things like zooms on a males naked butts and toned bodies or two friends getting too close for confort (even the best of friends maintain their personal space from each other), it's all appealing to girls that either love getting eye candy of their husbandos or like shipping two males together... Now, of course there's nothing wrong with it (it is the same with males and fanservice after all), but it's of no surprise that the male audience will not take it very well... The problem is, they generalize it and assume all sports anime are design to appeal woman just because most of the cast is male or something...It's not even hard to test it... You can easily perceive when an anime is actually trying appeal to woman as the atmosphere of the specific scene will feel different... |
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| Sport resolve in friendship, leadership, and never giving up (shounen 101), not in bromance, and something like that, if you want to see hot man doing hot stuff, search for another BL stuff, or maybe try for KyoAni's Free, it's looks like that. |
| I don't think there's a really in depth reason for it. I think it's just because the creators intend to focus more on the actual sports and the characters and how they feel about the sport. I notice that in some sport anime romance lacks, and it is more based on friendship or teamwork, or sportsmanship etc. |
| Because those people are stupid and take things at face value or they're just overreacting/over-analysing. |
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Lestat- said: With this season's newly adapted All Out!! and Yuri!!! on Ice (plus yet another season of Haikyuu!), the male audience of anime has yet again risen in to an uproar on sports anime; the largest portion of the male audience believes these titles are shounen ai, or even pushing it as far as calling them yaoi. Why? I do not know. They are not — I have watched Kuroko no Basket, One Outs, Free!, Prince of Stride and Yowamushi Pedal, and none of these series show any indication of homosexual encounters or romance between male characters. Believe it or not, but most sports anime are categorized as shounen and seinen, meaning they are mostly targeted at a male audience. Their manga are likely even to be featured in the widely acclaimed Weekly Shōnen Jump, which is again, primarily targeted at young men and men in general. The mindset of a lot of young males on this subject just feels like a result of this twisted view on homosexuality. Looking at a group of men entertaining themselves through friendship and sports, does not make one homosexual. When you happen to look at a swimming team and the men happen to only wear slim trunks —as is, well; necessary in swimming sports—, does this make you homosexual? No, it does not. Now, I cannot speak for the male sex, but I find it disturbing how little tolerance the male gender seems to have toward viewing their own sex. Seeing a topless male is suddenly 'gay', and any group of men who are friendly with one another must all be 'gay'. I have never received a clear answer on this as I can only speculate about the prudish view on a same-sex perspective of heterosexual men, but why is it so problematic for you Martians to either witness another pleasant-looking man, or to be present in the same environment as a handsome —I feel I have to mention appearance, seeing as this feels like something that either intimidates men or urges them to think of someone as 'gay'— man? I have even heard of young men on actual sports teams either showering with their boxers on, or refusing to shower at all. As a woman, I can logically (well — as logical as this can get) come to three conclusions; 1. You are afraid that other men in the changing room are homosexual, and they develop feelings of lust or romance to you if they witness your naked self - 2. You are afraid that witnessing other naked men might inspire homosexual feelings within you - 3. You are suffering from some sort of distorted body image of yourself and fear that others will laugh at your naked self. Now, I have strayed from my own initial point, as in none of the anime I mentioned earlier feature any unclothed men in an inappropriate setting (Yuri!!! on Ice's pilot did show a shot of a character rising from a bath, but this was at an onsen — meaning the setting calls for a culturally appropriate usage of nudity), but looking deeper in to the subject, I feel like there are a lot more underlying developments that causes a lot of men to think this way. Men and women, please share your thoughts — any are welcome. Sounds like you want to say >YURI ON ICE ISN'T GAY AND STOP SAYING IT IS Even though it's pretty gay and clearly panders to woman who love that stuff and gay men. |
| I think the males are the ones wearing the fujoshi goggles, because every anime with a majority male cast is called fujobait. |
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sport anime: gay anime:  the differences are pretty obvious |
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| While they aren't full-blown shonen ai or yaoi, I would say a good number of sports anime (recent ones) have yaoi bait. I honestly don't think it's a bad thing. There are plenty of anime with a female dominated cast and yuri bait is everywhere. So what if they cater to the audience - if it's all bait and no story, then yeah, it's a guilty pleasure show. But if it has a good story and good bait, then I don't see the problem. I've never watched a sports anime with yaoi bait that was too "in your face" (yet). In fact, I think the tones are often too subtle, same for shows with yuri bait. |
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| OP obviously can't tell if a show is gay or not. Free is as gay as it gets, not because of the actual Sausage Fest, it's because it's demographic its catering to is for women who have absolutely no chance of finding a usable dick in their life. A lot of the so called "shonen" sports anime panders more to females more than males now because fujoshis love to fantasize that tip on tip action. |
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| Not all of them Anime like free and yuri on ice are quite obvious (can't remember knb) While otheres like haikyu, all out and one outs have nothing So we can't generalize |
| NICE TRY OP! Sports anime are nothing but fujobait nowadays. We have homosexual swimming, homosexual basketball, homosexual volleyball, and finally the King Queen of gay "sports"....figure skating. Honestly though...I'm OK with all this homosexual anime. I mean, it's not for me, but at least it does serve a good portion of anime fans who are into this stuff. Straight male fans have ecchi, battle shounens, and other good stuff...let the fujoshis get their homosexual sports anime. #NoHate |
JustALEX said: NICE TRY OP! Sports anime are nothing but fujobait nowadays. We have homosexual swimming, homosexual basketball, homosexual volleyball, and finally the King Queen of gay "sports"....figure skating. Honestly though...I'm OK with all this homosexual anime. I mean, it's not for me, but at least it does serve a good portion of anime fans who are into this stuff. Straight male fans have ecchi, battle shounens, and other good stuff...let the fujoshis get their homosexual sports anime. #NoHate how are any of these shows homosexual? please explain |
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| Friendship and whatnot aside, I dont like (and im sure most males do) an all boys cast, which is pretty much the main "trigger" for all of this.... Basically if its an all boys cast its unavoidable for guys to not call it a yaoi lol, becuz thats just how it works... BUT for example if i was a 10 year old again i wouldnt be even bothered in the slightest that its an all boys cast, so theres that. |
| yes, but yuri on ice is 100% gay if you look into the previews |
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| They're not yaoi by themselves, it's the fujoshi pandering that indirectly converts them to. Like I have never seen Haikyuu to be remotely gay at all in the show itself, but you'd be surprised at all the fanfics and stuff the fangirls come up with for it just because of said male friendships and stuff. Etcetera Blame the audience, not the authors That being said some sports anime obviously pander to said fangirls intentionally like Free and Yuri on Ice (supposedly) by providing as many subtle undertones as possible |
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| Look.Everyone can watch what they want and that is fine.But saying Free and Yuri on Ice hasn't got any gay elements is just saying DxD is not ecchi. Also for YoI(Btw name is so ironic) is not gay even first episode tells enough you can also check spoilers. Now let's come to Haikyuu.This one have a bit fanservice but it's as much as SnS got.So this one is not in that category. |
Lestat- said: With this season's newly adapted All Out!! and Yuri!!! on Ice (plus yet another season of Haikyuu!), the male audience of anime has yet again risen in to an uproar on sports anime; the largest portion of the male audience believes these titles are shounen ai, or even pushing it as far as calling them yaoi. Why? I do not know. They are not — I have watched Kuroko no Basket, One Outs, Free!, Prince of Stride and Yowamushi Pedal, and none of these series show any indication of homosexual encounters or romance between male characters. Believe it or not, but most sports anime are categorized as shounen and seinen, meaning they are mostly targeted at a male audience. Their manga are likely even to be featured in the widely acclaimed Weekly Shōnen Jump, which is again, primarily targeted at young men and men in general. The mindset of a lot of young males on this subject just feels like a result of this twisted view on homosexuality. Looking at a group of men entertaining themselves through friendship and sports, does not make one homosexual. When you happen to look at a swimming team and the men happen to only wear slim trunks —as is, well; necessary in swimming sports—, does this make you homosexual? No, it does not. Now, I cannot speak for the male sex, but I find it disturbing how little tolerance the male gender seems to have toward viewing their own sex. Seeing a topless male is suddenly 'gay', and any group of men who are friendly with one another must all be 'gay'. I have never received a clear answer on this as I can only speculate about the prudish view on a same-sex perspective of heterosexual men, but why is it so problematic for you Martians to either witness another pleasant-looking man, or to be present in the same environment as a handsome —I feel I have to mention appearance, seeing as this feels like something that either intimidates men or urges them to think of someone as 'gay'— man? I have even heard of young men on actual sports teams either showering with their boxers on, or refusing to shower at all. As a woman, I can logically (well — as logical as this can get) come to three conclusions; 1. You are afraid that other men in the changing room are homosexual, and they develop feelings of lust or romance to you if they witness your naked self - 2. You are afraid that witnessing other naked men might inspire homosexual feelings within you - 3. You are suffering from some sort of distorted body image of yourself and fear that others will laugh at your naked self. Now, I have strayed from my own initial point, as in none of the anime I mentioned earlier feature any unclothed men in an inappropriate setting (Yuri!!! on Ice's pilot did show a shot of a character rising from a bath, but this was at an onsen — meaning the setting calls for a culturally appropriate usage of nudity), but looking deeper in to the subject, I feel like there are a lot more underlying developments that causes a lot of men to think this way. Men and women, please share your thoughts — any are welcome. Because it will suck and not sell well :3 Atleast for the modern anime, in the old days it would never have been thought of because of Japanese strict rules for anime :3 |
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| Seriously though, there are good reasons why this happens... And BTW, just so we are crystal clear, this happens A LOT for all girl anime as well. #1 Innuendos...they happen all the time in these anime, sometimes it's subtle, other times (like Free), not so subtle. #2 Anime fans are obsessed with shipping. Think about the last anime you saw where the fanbase wasn't remotely interested in any romantic relationship between the characters....it rarely if ever happens. And since the cast us full of men, the natural inclination is to think they are gay or at least ship them that way. Especially when the characters are very friendly with each other, which happens A LOT in sports anime and Slice of Life anime too...this is why everyone thinks the girls from K-ON are all lesbians. #3 The fans like homosexual couples. This is probably the easiest and most likely reason for this phenomenon...Straight guys like lesbians and straight girls like Gay guys. I mean, hell...Here in America, the #1 porn search is "lesbian" followed not too far behind by "gay". It's pretty obvious...if one girl is good...two girls are better! Same thing in the reverse. I don't know what the big deal is....I may not be into Yaoi, but I'm also not being forced to watch these anime. |
| All male cast anime is not gay as all female cast anime is not lesbian, not inherently at least. Just because the anime want to appeal to female audience too so they leave the space for yuri fanfics or things like that don't make that anime automatically yuri. Other anime do the same by giving the male audience waifu baits (like Rem last season). |
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Nico- said: wow i didnt know sports anime was gay really made me think!! A bunch of sweaty, good looking guys all fighting for various balls... C'mon fam, it's clear as day! |
H-Chroma said: Apparently the problem here is about Self-acceptance. OP accept and embrace your inner “fujoshi”. There is nothing for me to embrace, seeing as how I am asexual (and aromantic, but that is less applicable in this situation). Finding absolutely nothing that points in the direction of sexual undertones in these anime is exactly what makes me able to watch them comfortably, and without any embarassment. I have not yet received an answer on why so many men view so many group-interactions between other men as 'gay', however. This interests me, because women are wired entirely differently. I have not yet come across a woman who was driven so entirely out of her comfort zone by witnessing other unclothed women (whether this could be in a small setting, or a larger one, like a dressing room — or they do not have to be unclothed at all, as it could simply be a situation where a group of women entertain themselves through social interaction or another activity), that she would have to keep herself away from this or resort to calling any group of women together 'gay'. I simply cannot grasp why men would think like this of their own gender. |
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| Can people stop being so freaking homophobic? Like really both parts, the ones who can't stop saying "wow this anime is so gay" and the ones who feel offended my God. Who cares if it's gay or not If they give you good sports entertainment? |
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badwolf45f said: maybe, just maybe some people arent entertained by gay stuff? mindblowing, i know.Can people stop being so freaking homophobic? Like really both parts, the ones who can't stop saying "wow this anime is so gay" and the ones who feel offended my God. Who cares if it's gay or not If they give you good sports entertainment? |
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badwolf45f said: Can people stop being so freaking homophobic? Like really both parts, the ones who can't stop saying "wow this anime is so gay" and the ones who feel offended my God. Who cares if it's gay or not If they give you good sports entertainment? I personally LOVE yuri....your sig (Nico X Maki) is easily one of my favorite yuri ships of all time. But I'm a straight male. So, I'm not into male homosexuality....if I see an anime have any yaoi bait, I'm probably going to drop it immediately. Not because I hate gays, but because it's just not for me...I don't want to see it, I'm not going to be entertained by it. Just like (I assume) many straight girls are not going to be entertained by yuri or highly ecchi anime. That's just how it is. |
| "gay undertones" lmao get a load of this |
| I never understood why people thinks Haikyuu is a yaoi series when there isn't any moment of the series who shows any character showings signs of being homosexual and showing feelings for his friends who are not friendship (I talk only in the first season, since I haven't watched the second or the third ones). Another thing is that fujoshis likes to pair characters together (who is expected considering the majority of the cast is male), but the series it's an sports shounen, and it doesn't have any shounen ai/yaoi element, unless I'm not remembering right, of course. |
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| I've never seen a kiss or something yaoi in any sports anime I've watched. Dunno why people feel that it's yaoi when they are hugging after a victory. |
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GangsterCat said: badwolf45f said: maybe, just maybe some people arent entertained by gay stuff? mindblowing, i know.Can people stop being so freaking homophobic? Like really both parts, the ones who can't stop saying "wow this anime is so gay" and the ones who feel offended my God. Who cares if it's gay or not If they give you good sports entertainment? Gay stuff? Im not talking about you watching Yaoi, but people getting so salty and offended by scenes of two dudes talking to each other in sports anime or feeling offended If they ship two dudes and being all "they're not gay omg", idk but thats being just homophobic af If u ask me. JustALEX said: badwolf45f said: Can people stop being so freaking homophobic? Like really both parts, the ones who can't stop saying "wow this anime is so gay" and the ones who feel offended my God. Who cares if it's gay or not If they give you good sports entertainment? I personally LOVE yuri....your sig (Nico X Maki) is easily one of my favorite yuri ships of all time. But I'm a straight male. So, I'm not into male homosexuality....if I see an anime have any yaoi bait, I'm probably going to drop it immediately. Not because I hate gays, but because it's just not for me...I don't want to see it, I'm not going to be entertained by it. Just like (I assume) many straight girls are not going to be entertained by yuri or highly ecchi anime. That's just how it is. "Im straight male and Im not homophobe I like lesbians!" Again we're not talking about Yaoi, I understand straight not liking because actual Yaoi focuses, in like you say homosexual relationship, but...SPORTS? The only bait you get there is them talking, and maybe having a deep friendship...but Nothing else, and If just by that you felt grossed out, then my friend your quite homophobic imo |
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badwolf45f said: you are the only one here feeling offended and being saltyGangsterCat said: maybe, just maybe some people arent entertained by gay stuff? mindblowing, i know. Gay stuff? Im not talking about you watching Yaoi, but people getting so salty and offended by scenes of two dudes talking to each other in sports anime or feeling offended If they ship two dudes and being all "they're not gay omg", idk but thats being just homophobic af If u ask me. JustALEX said: I personally LOVE yuri....your sig (Nico X Maki) is easily one of my favorite yuri ships of all time. But I'm a straight male. So, I'm not into male homosexuality....if I see an anime have any yaoi bait, I'm probably going to drop it immediately. Not because I hate gays, but because it's just not for me...I don't want to see it, I'm not going to be entertained by it. Just like (I assume) many straight girls are not going to be entertained by yuri or highly ecchi anime. That's just how it is. "Im straight male and Im not homophobe I like lesbians!" Again we're not talking about Yaoi, I understand straight not liking because actual Yaoi focuses, in like you say homosexual relationship, but...SPORTS? The only bait you get there is them talking, and maybe having a deep friendship...but Nothing else, and If just by that you felt grossed out, then my friend your quite homophobic imo just spamming word phobic phobic doesnt mean anything, you sound really annoying like those people who keep raining trump supporter with -phobic -ist -ist buzzwords some people dont like gay stuff because they are not gay, simple, don't overthink |
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BRB-kun said: Kuroko, Stride and Free have undeniably gay undertones. It may not be shonen-ai, but it panders to the same audience. Of course they're not yaoi, but same difference anyway. Kuroko no basket has gay undertones? How? There's not even a hint of homosexuality in KnB |
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GangsterCat said: But which are gay anime? badwolf45f said: you are the only one here feeling offended and being saltyGay stuff? Im not talking about you watching Yaoi, but people getting so salty and offended by scenes of two dudes talking to each other in sports anime or feeling offended If they ship two dudes and being all "they're not gay omg", idk but thats being just homophobic af If u ask me. "Im straight male and Im not homophobe I like lesbians!" Again we're not talking about Yaoi, I understand straight not liking because actual Yaoi focuses, in like you say homosexual relationship, but...SPORTS? The only bait you get there is them talking, and maybe having a deep friendship...but Nothing else, and If just by that you felt grossed out, then my friend your quite homophobic imo just spamming word phobic phobic doesnt mean anything, you sound really annoying like those people who keep raining trump supporter with -phobic -ist -ist buzzwords some people dont like gay stuff because they are not gay, simple, don't overthink Haikyuu? No. All out? No. Kuroko no Basket? No. Ping pong the animation? No. Hajime no ippo? No. Ashita no Joe? No. |
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zal said: GangsterCat said: But which are gay anime? you are the only one here feeling offended and being salty just spamming word phobic phobic doesnt mean anything, you sound really annoying like those people who keep raining trump supporter with -phobic -ist -ist buzzwords some people dont like gay stuff because they are not gay, simple, don't overthink Haikyuu? No. All out? No. Kuroko no Basket? No. Ping pong the animation? No. Hajime no ippo? No. Gay on ice ? Yes ..................................... |
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hisokathebutcher said: Not confirmed yet. Just because of something in the spoilers, it's still implied at best.zal said: But which are gay anime? Haikyuu? No. All out? No. Kuroko no Basket? No. Ping pong the animation? No. Hajime no ippo? No. Gay on ice ? Yes ..................................... Katsuo_ said: I guess this guy thinks males fist bumping is too dangerous for his masculinity.BRB-kun said: Kuroko, Stride and Free have undeniably gay undertones. It may not be shonen-ai, but it panders to the same audience. Of course they're not yaoi, but same difference anyway. Kuroko no basket has gay undertones? How? There's not even a hint of homosexuality in KnB |
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Lestat- said: I have not yet received an answer on why so many men view so many group-interactions between other men as 'gay', however. This interests me, because women are wired entirely differently. I have not yet come across a woman who was driven so entirely out of her comfort zone by witnessing other unclothed women (whether this could be in a small setting, or a larger one, like a dressing room — or they do not have to be unclothed at all, as it could simply be a situation where a group of women entertain themselves through social interaction or another activity), that she would have to keep herself away from this or resort to calling any group of women together 'gay'. I simply cannot grasp why men would think like this of their own gender. I'll try to reply to this, but keep in mind that I'm not "normal" and have quite some social issues so I can't really speak for the male gender. Women tend to be more phisically outgoing with each other, it's normal to see girls embracing each other in public or kissing each other's cheeks, we are definitly not like that. I am uncomfortable with any type of physical contact, unless it's fighting but I tend to avoid fights if I can, all the more if it's done where someone could see; it took around 5 years for my best friends to get a hug from me... That is one of the main reasons, the other is that most men are uncomfortable with male's nudity, either because it automatically start a comparison between theyr bodies (it's an unconscious process) that could result in a loss and their pride would be damaged or because being around a bunch of naked dude is a threat to their straight sexuality (I don't really get this one since I'm bi but I've been told so...). Given this it's no wonder that male audience won't like an anime in which a group of guys keep touching and hugging each other, if a friend of mine would ever do something like that to me IRL, I'd force him apart and walk at least 3 meters away from him for at least a week... or just feel extremely uncomfortable and do nothing because friends are extremely rare. But again, that's me with all my issues can't really talk about normal guys |
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badwolf45f said: "Im straight male and Im not homophobe I like lesbians!" Again we're not talking about Yaoi, I understand straight not liking because actual Yaoi focuses, in like you say homosexual relationship, but...SPORTS? The only bait you get there is them talking, and maybe having a deep friendship...but Nothing else, and If just by that you felt grossed out, then my friend your quite homophobic imo The irony with me is that I'm actually a HUGE sports fan in real life. But anime sports don't do anything for me... The thing about all male sports anime is that they have yaoi undertones. Sure, not all of them are like that. But "Free" and now this "Yuri on Ice" anime...they have those undertones...big time! And I gave three good reasons why this occurs. Anime fans are obsessed with shipping, there are Innuendos, and people in general like homosexual couples...at least as a fetish anyways. And NO, I'm not a homophobe...I don't hate gays. I simply have no desire to watch these type of anime that are full of males and have fanservice meant for girls. It's simple preference. |
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