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Oct 1, 2016 1:00 PM
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Art, animation, soundtrack were all top notch and I love the WW2 setting. The story in itself has a kind of old school feel, it seems like the kind of thing they might have done 20, 30 years ago.

Will most definitely keep on watching.
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Oct 1, 2016 1:11 PM

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I love Japan's weird fixation with the German word sieg and how they keep using it in such dumb ways. Doesn't matter what context, Sieg Zeon, Sieg Kaisaru Reinhardo, Sieg Reich. Victory Realm? Really? Love it. Oh the show? It's alright I guess, apart from the fairly distasteful fan-service.
Oct 1, 2016 1:12 PM

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Good start, the princess seems interesting.

Oct 1, 2016 1:16 PM

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DatRandomDude said:
Well, that was a pretty solid start !
Just hope that its not going to go downhill later. >_>

My thoughts exactly! I really like this princess! The animation and op/ed were solid too.

SchwingBoner said:
Hoping to see some actual yuri, and not just yuribait.

Prepare to be disappointed....
Oct 1, 2016 1:19 PM
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Oct 1, 2016 1:21 PM
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fine-hime fine-hime fine-hime FOR ****s SAKE!

all the naming in this is killing me

pretty interesting other than all the [unexplained] magic and so on.
I could not stop laughing when Izetta got released to the end of the episode XD

*Male Servants died, tomboy and strange breast girl alone in forest*... why do i prefer if it was yaoi-vibes ;-;
Oct 1, 2016 1:27 PM

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The way they built the world in this first episode reminded me of an old teacher of mine. He used to be a leading poet in his obscure language until one day someone noticed that all he did was translate Scottish-dialect poetry but with the place names changed to local ones...

Whilst I wasn't necessarily amazed by this first episode, I reckon this could be solid series; nothing amazing, but eh, pretty good
Oct 1, 2016 1:33 PM
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I think I like this so far. This is giving me some Code Geass vibes with how there's a witch locked up in a container, and is discovered by a princess like how Lelouch was a prince. Seems like this show will walk the line between Yuri and historical drama. Not that sold on the story yet
Oct 1, 2016 1:33 PM

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Kudelia Aina Bernstein, is that you?
Oct 1, 2016 1:34 PM
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Good animation and strong accent on well developed female bodies of protagonists, extremely cliche characters and weak script.

The bad guy is carrying a supper secret weapon, in fact so secret that he kills few subordinates of his who were unlucky to see it. Why it is then in public transport? Why is it wide open for anybody to discover among bicycles? Why protagonist just opens locks, no picking, no key.

Details are non existent, but just in case you have not noticed protagonist has matured into a beautiful lady. Should I repeat it one more time? Don't believe me? Here are the nudes.
Oct 1, 2016 1:35 PM

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I want to like it, but I'm afraid it has too much cringe for me.

Why does a show riddled with WWII references, to the point of copying the map, shy away from using the actual nation's names and symbolism from 1939? Every time they do it I can't help but eye-roll. Especially the germ(ani)an's greeting "Sieg Reich", being such a dumb wordplay I would punch someone for it (siegreich = victorious), gives me shivers every time I hear it. Just let them say Heil and stick a goddamn cross on that plane ffs - everybody knows what's meant anyways.

The show takes itself seriously, but I just can't do the same when I'm bombarded by cringy references every minute. I hope I'll get used to it so I can enjoy the actual plot (Which I like so far), though I don't think I will.
Oct 1, 2016 1:50 PM

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Princess Fine is already a contender for character of the season for me, she could be top-class. I'm really digging the atmosphere and tone of this show.
Oct 1, 2016 1:54 PM

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something so beautiful you can only accept with open arms. i'm going to avoid the fact that both german and english people speak fluent japanese.

also i want to add, why can't a friendship be incredibly deep? i see no queerbait yet, i might change my mind but for now i think they could pass as friends
Modified by danielamaghini, Oct 1, 2016 1:57 PM
Oct 1, 2016 2:00 PM

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Knockator said:

Why does a show riddled with WWII references, to the point of copying the map, shy away from using the actual nation's names and symbolism from 1939?

The same reason why some ww2 games replace the Swastika with the Iron Cross or censor Hitler. It could be because it might be seen by some as bad taste or there are laws in some countries that forbid the use of nazi symbolism.

Another reason could be for the story. The show obviously takes place in a different world where Elystadt exists as a country with magic and what not, by replacing Nazi Germany with a fictional counterpart they remove the need to reference the nazis ridiculous ideological tenets which would have added nothing to the story.
Nazi Germany and Germania are different countries which although share similarities are not the same.
Oct 1, 2016 2:03 PM

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That ending was pretty cool for a first epsiode. Witches be flying guns insetad of brooms xD.
Oct 1, 2016 2:09 PM

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That felt stiff. The characters felt incredibly forced somehow and that Hime hime was kind of thrown all over the place.
Oct 1, 2016 2:29 PM

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this show just reminding me that magical fantasy + realistic modern stuff is so boring to watch

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Oct 1, 2016 2:35 PM

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Hm! not good at all!! its going to be shoujo-ai anime later! I am sure..

This is weird after all,making shojo-ai in a war anime.I really dont see good sign at all.Gotto watch next episode to ok-confirm.
Oct 1, 2016 2:39 PM

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Pretty nice start o_o Season off to a good start so far

Oct 1, 2016 2:41 PM

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I gotta say, the art and visuals were quite the pleasant things to watch. The animation was decent as well, and the OST was really good.

This show has potential. Impressive start. I'm liking it so far.

That gold gun, though.
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Oct 1, 2016 2:42 PM

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Well then, this is all going to be interesting to watch especially since our lead seems like she is going to be the strong type that is sorely needed in anime nowadays. I liked just about everything that was given but the yuri undertones is already making me worried. Hopefully it won't be too distracting because this narrative seems like it's gonna pack a lot of potential.
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Oct 1, 2016 2:48 PM

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Count me in on this one...that was pretty damn great as far as first episodes go.
Oct 1, 2016 2:51 PM

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Seems prety fine, i didn't remember about the plot from when i had added this to the plans though. But they prety much bought me with the witch versus nazi setting.
This will be a fun ride.
Oct 1, 2016 2:56 PM

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That was a great first episode. The scene at the beginning with Izetta was fantastic, as well as the use of music throughout the episode. I have high hopes for this!
Oct 1, 2016 2:57 PM

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Great start ! I loved the mix of real history with mystical witch and the animation was beautiful
Oct 1, 2016 2:57 PM
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this is gonna be my top shows for the season i love the idea of war mixed with a new flavor like magic
Oct 1, 2016 2:59 PM

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Not bad as a beginning episode. The WWII setting was nice, the princess actually tried to be competent, the main antagonist was cool and the ending with Izetta wrecking the plane looked really beautiful (+ great soundtrack).

This looks good, hope it doesn't ends being a disaster.
Oct 1, 2016 3:00 PM

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Like the first episode, but also had a few alarm bells go off. For one, the only reason for the alternate history seems to be to avoid real life political issues. Secondly, there's the yuri undertones, and finally some things are off for no particular reason. For example: the German officer's pistol was engraved with "who dares wins", which is the motto of the British SAS, and while it is clearly set in the 1940's, it really feels more like 1910-1920's.

tot said:
i can only think of suou pavlichenko when i saw that rifle

Nope, you were not, though I've tried my best to forget everything about Suou and the rest of that turd of a sequel.

The fact that it has been retconned in canon says enough.
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Oct 1, 2016 3:04 PM

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Nice first episode , it has a comb of war and witchcraft that I like very much, nice animation too ,I have great expectations with this one it could be one of the best this season , fingers crossed :)
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Oct 1, 2016 3:12 PM

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izzeta first episode kinda okay, animation and ost is beautiful.. unexpected from no name studio. so for first episode 7/10
Oct 1, 2016 3:26 PM

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Is there a reason that I feel like I'm recognising the art style? I don't recognise any of the studio's other works and the anime is listed as an original, so it's not because of some manga author connection.

Either way, I absolutely love the theme. I'm very fond of WW2 themes. The environments, the level of technology, the fashion and architecture. Aside from the horrors of war and the racial exterminations it is a very cosy time period.
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Oct 1, 2016 3:36 PM

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Good opening episode, really looking forward to see how this turns out, Hope its doesn't get overshadowed by Yuri arguments after every episode as I'm sure that's not what it's about.
Oct 1, 2016 3:39 PM
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Hahah the bath scene wasnt fan service.. it was supposed to show the scar Fine got while defending Izetta.
Oct 1, 2016 3:53 PM
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Great storyboarding, nice visuals, great OST.

There is a really interesting mix of realism and fantasy elements at work here. The title, The Last Witch, hints at a time of transition from the age of magic to the age of industrial mass warfare. Princess Finé and Izetta are throwbacks to another era, caught up together at the start of a cold and brutal age.

The military is very detailed and looks realistic, a blend of WWII (Stukka dive bombers) and WWI (trenches, German Kaiser). At first I thought it was set in an AU 1929 where the two wars were merged (Gosick), but this story explicitly takes place in an AU 1939, but with royalty still in charge of Britannia and Germania.

I hope that Izetta doesn't become another clichéd nigh-invincible Magical Girl. She should have limitations in this kind of tale. I also hope they can keep the animation production quality up.
Oct 1, 2016 4:12 PM

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Interesting first episode. I kinda like the personality of Fine
Witch riding broomstick is too mainstream, why not a rifle
Oct 1, 2016 4:26 PM
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Now some parts of the soundtrack so far are pretty great, but the sound in general kinda lacks any "Oomph." The sound effects for the explosions and gunshots in the episode were kinda dull, like BB guns. That might bother me if it continues, but it looks pretty good from what I've seen. I'm hoping they can carry this well.
Oct 1, 2016 4:45 PM

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Great first episode. It introduced us to the setting quickly and efficiently, created some intrigue behind Germania's motivations and Izetta and Finé is shaping up to be a very likeable character if she doesn't become useless.
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Oct 1, 2016 4:55 PM

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HuuskerDu said:
The military is very detailed and looks realistic, a blend of WWII (Stukka dive bombers) and WWI (trenches, German Kaiser). At first I thought it was set in an AU 1929 where the two wars were merged (Gosick), but this story explicitly takes place in an AU 1939, but with royalty still in charge of Britannia and Germania.

They never said that Britannia was ruled by royalty. The Princess specifically said that it might convince their people and parliament to want to protect her country if she marries their Prince.

Trenches aren't a thing exclusive to WW1. Trenches were still used throughout WW2 by all sides. Seeing them in this anime is no surprise since it is early in the war and most Generals expected it to play out similar to how WW1 played out. They say that Generals always fight the previous war.
Oct 1, 2016 5:16 PM

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What kind of Junketsu no Maria is this???
Oct 1, 2016 5:17 PM

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I can say that it's pretty interesting, the animation from the opening 'til the end is somewhat nice, let's see if they can keep that up together with the story until the end this is an original work by the way I really don't expect that much on Izetta x Fine romance, Amanchu killed my hopes and dreams.
Oct 1, 2016 5:18 PM
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SilverDio said:
What kind of Junketsu no Maria is this???

One that doesn't focus on the witch.
Oct 1, 2016 5:24 PM

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1idd0kun said:
SilverDio said:
What kind of Junketsu no Maria is this???

One that doesn't focus on the witch.

Shit, that is a bummer.
Oct 1, 2016 5:55 PM

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In my opinion using a ( alternate ) WW II setting is a bit delicate. But this looks promising.

I love the detail, they put into it with the German language.

Izetta using a rifle instead of a broom was cool.

Her name is similar to that of a german bubble car. I'm curious, if that's intentional.
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Oct 1, 2016 6:03 PM

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Really liked this episode! Nice setting and love the character designs. Also Saori Hayami <3
Oct 1, 2016 6:07 PM

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Yuri, men, get on board! We'll defend it until we all fall down! All haill Yuri bait!
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Oct 1, 2016 6:07 PM

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They got as close to WW II as possible with quite a lot of detail without being distasteful , i'm surprised how many people are kinda harsh on this (well not really..) i thought it showed a lot of promise i would of been a okay without the witch element because i fee like that could make or break this show,visuals are great motherfucking bunbun on the character designs and the scores were impressive.

hopefully it stays good!
Oct 1, 2016 6:16 PM

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So why do they just leave that super duper top secret shit out in the open

why not put it in like, i dunno, a discrete, unmarked padded box?


But that aside this is literally just WW2 with different names. I see a Pz. II, Stukas, etc. They even copied the Balkankreuz they just changed one arm of the cross slightly. Goddamn somebody on the production team gets off hardcore to the whole nazi aesthetic.

Actually the Bundswehr still uses the Balkankreuz, I wonder if they could sue for copyright infringement....

But I mean... couldn't they have at least tried to make it look like they put some effort in? Because Germania is basically Nazi Germany, but with all their real life weaknesses (no amphibious invasion force, god-awful intelligence, etc.) conveniently deleted.
Oct 1, 2016 6:40 PM

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Starting off the show we have great animations, great music, and good characters. And I have to say, I was really surprised at the production quality coming from such a small unknown studio called Ajia-Do. I think, they’ve really worked their hearts into this anime. Because unlike big studios, A-1 Pictures or UFOtable, small studios don’t get to secure unlimited budget.

We first start off with a childhood memory of our main character princess Fine meeting the witch. Then it cuts to the present and dives right into the action on a fast moving train, where Fine is being chased by a few Germania soldiers. During this action sequence we’re also being introduced to setting of the show, which is roughly based WW2, where Germany, or Germania in this show, has begun to invade neighboring countries.

In this train sequence, you can tell they’ve put in details to make the action flow and add to the realism. For example, they show Tobias just getting into position by hiding behind the crates, and then later popping up taking a bullet. Or the Germanian officer making the going down signal on top of the train and then few scenes later showing up in the cargo space. The sequence makes sense, it flows. In so many other anime, it’s such a cliché where a character randomly pops out of no where in a dramatic scene, and then the show goes in slow motion with surprised expression on everyone’s faces. You don’t see none of that in Izetta, the last witch.

The characters so far, is pretty likeable. They mostly focused on Princess Fine in this episode. She is a very strong and competent character. She is able to make decisions decisively and she also understands the weight of her position as a princess. Despite eventually being backed into a corner, she still stands proud and loyal to her country. Now, this is when the other main character, Izetta, finally shows up, and blowing up half of the plane with her. And again, they’re introducing character during action sequences. So the pacing never feels slow or sluggish.

Now for my predictions, I do think this show will probably have a heavy focus on political drama, as it did have a pretty serious tone over the entire episode. It definitely has the potential to be a pretty good anime, the quality is here. It might be hard to pull off because you have the realism aspect of the war, and the fantasy aspect of the magical girl. These are pretty conflicting themes, and if it’s not done right, one of them will just end up being as a distraction to the other. Or, of course they could just take the third option and go as a yuri fan service show. Only time will tell.


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Oct 1, 2016 6:43 PM

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this series looks like its gonna be really good and off to a great start imo really looking forward to see how this series turns out
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Oct 1, 2016 6:52 PM

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Wow, this episode was pretty great! I really like this. Fine is a great character and the setting/plot seems good. The design and animation was pretty good too.

I'll watch this.
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