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Jun 28, 2017 10:34 PM

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But Nagiots crazy eyes were always "special" looked different from everyone else this swirly dark crazyness. Tengan had the same crazy eyes as all the despair/brainwashed people had so far. There are tough different special eyes/mimics trough the whole series to show special emotions for scenes. But Nagitos was always a different kind of crazy.
Jungo in the afterlife theater said it herself. A brainwahsed humanity that only has this extreme form of hope is also pretty much a despair end itself.
That would make sense if this is tengans goal when he watched the wrong USB stick.
 
Jul 1, 2017 5:37 PM

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@MightyM16

But Nagiots crazy eyes were always "special" looked different from everyone else this swirly dark crazyness. Tengan had the same crazy eyes as all the despair/brainwashed people had so far. There are tough different special eyes/mimics trough the whole series to show special emotions for scenes. But Nagitos was always a different kind of crazy.
Jungo in the afterlife theater said it herself. A brainwahsed humanity that only has this extreme form of hope is also pretty much a despair end itself.
That would make sense if this is tengans goal when he watched the wrong USB stick.


Regardless, just the eyes don't confirm anything. They're just your theory.

The eyes can manifest on people not influenced by despair brainwashing as evidenced by Nagito and Junko.
 
Jul 2, 2017 4:52 AM

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MightyM16 said:
MonoReaper said:
@MightyM16

But Nagiots crazy eyes were always "special" looked different from everyone else this swirly dark crazyness. Tengan had the same crazy eyes as all the despair/brainwashed people had so far. There are tough different special eyes/mimics trough the whole series to show special emotions for scenes. But Nagitos was always a different kind of crazy.
Jungo in the afterlife theater said it herself. A brainwahsed humanity that only has this extreme form of hope is also pretty much a despair end itself.
That would make sense if this is tengans goal when he watched the wrong USB stick.


Regardless, just the eyes don't confirm anything. They're just your theory.

The eyes can manifest on people not influenced by despair brainwashing as evidenced by Nagito and Junko.


Well its not a Theory of mine as the whole build up in the Gaiden manga plus the end Panel of Tengan in said chapter speaks for itself.

But thats no argument. Junko is a natural despair drunk person and was the first to have those eyes. Nagito is the somewhat oppostie of Junko only so far that he himself hates despair but causes it nonetheless even tough he beliefs its for hope.

Nagitos eyes were always this crazy swirly dark when he talked about his ideology. Junko had those eyes only before her dead because she experienced the biggest despair she could. The despair before you die. You inner natural reaction towards you own end.

Tengans crazy eyes after Munakata questioned his motive only then to talk about "extreme" hope and the necerssarity of it. Its the same as the DR2 kids after brainswashed who did believe they did something good even tough they its clearly shown the despairvideo fucked them up.
If you remember Tengang had at all times the trigger for the bomb to detonate on Asano but didnt trigger it.
His whole statemant about :he would do something far as killing in order to grasp hope and the future.
Was the same twisted view as all the people who were brainwashed had.
That whole thing at chapter 12 to the end explains why Tengan acted like a psychopath & even risked the live of the only person who would brainwash everyone into a zombie like hope that is also despair in itself.
 
Jul 16, 2017 7:15 AM

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lmao the comments. Fanboying/raging over kirigiri being alive. You're either on despair side or hope side. Overall 6/10 danganropa3....7/10 since im on hope side lol.
 
Jul 17, 2017 7:45 AM

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MonoReaper said:
MightyM16 said:


Regardless, just the eyes don't confirm anything. They're just your theory.

The eyes can manifest on people not influenced by despair brainwashing as evidenced by Nagito and Junko.


Well its not a Theory of mine as the whole build up in the Gaiden manga plus the end Panel of Tengan in said chapter speaks for itself.

But thats no argument. Junko is a natural despair drunk person and was the first to have those eyes. Nagito is the somewhat oppostie of Junko only so far that he himself hates despair but causes it nonetheless even tough he beliefs its for hope.

Nagitos eyes were always this crazy swirly dark when he talked about his ideology. Junko had those eyes only before her dead because she experienced the biggest despair she could. The despair before you die. You inner natural reaction towards you own end.

Tengans crazy eyes after Munakata questioned his motive only then to talk about "extreme" hope and the necerssarity of it. Its the same as the DR2 kids after brainswashed who did believe they did something good even tough they its clearly shown the despairvideo fucked them up.
If you remember Tengang had at all times the trigger for the bomb to detonate on Asano but didnt trigger it.
His whole statemant about :he would do something far as killing in order to grasp hope and the future.
Was the same twisted view as all the people who were brainwashed had.
That whole thing at chapter 12 to the end explains why Tengan acted like a psychopath & even risked the live of the only person who would brainwash everyone into a zombie like hope that is also despair in itself.


It is just a theory unless you can find an actual moment or mention of Tengan watching the video. End of story
 
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MightyM16 said:
MonoReaper said:


Well its not a Theory of mine as the whole build up in the Gaiden manga plus the end Panel of Tengan in said chapter speaks for itself.

But thats no argument. Junko is a natural despair drunk person and was the first to have those eyes. Nagito is the somewhat oppostie of Junko only so far that he himself hates despair but causes it nonetheless even tough he beliefs its for hope.

Nagitos eyes were always this crazy swirly dark when he talked about his ideology. Junko had those eyes only before her dead because she experienced the biggest despair she could. The despair before you die. You inner natural reaction towards you own end.

Tengans crazy eyes after Munakata questioned his motive only then to talk about "extreme" hope and the necerssarity of it. Its the same as the DR2 kids after brainswashed who did believe they did something good even tough they its clearly shown the despairvideo fucked them up.
If you remember Tengang had at all times the trigger for the bomb to detonate on Asano but didnt trigger it.
His whole statemant about :he would do something far as killing in order to grasp hope and the future.
Was the same twisted view as all the people who were brainwashed had.
That whole thing at chapter 12 to the end explains why Tengan acted like a psychopath & even risked the live of the only person who would brainwash everyone into a zombie like hope that is also despair in itself.


It is just a theory unless you can find an actual moment or mention of Tengan watching the video. End of story


DR3 Anime flashback to Chisa giving Tengan 2 USB sticks and tells him to watch it and he ask wich one is the Despair Video than Chisa says wich one ans miles with crazy eyes.
 
Aug 14, 2017 6:38 PM

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MonoReaper said:
MightyM16 said:


It is just a theory unless you can find an actual moment or mention of Tengan watching the video. End of story


DR3 Anime flashback to Chisa giving Tengan 2 USB sticks and tells him to watch it and he ask wich one is the Despair Video than Chisa says wich one ans miles with crazy eyes.


You need to refresh your memory, she didn't tell him to watch it.
 
Sep 6, 2017 6:58 PM
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This was gorgeous! What wonderful animation.

It was so heartwarming to see my D2 faves again, especially my sweet Nanami. I love them all so much! Best characters -- loved to see their personalities highlighted again.

So cute that Kirigiri's back, too. No way they'd kill her off for good, and that makes me happy tbh. Adorable to see Touko & Komura with the main cast at the end. Very satisfying ending, overall. I know their story is over, but I hope we at least get references/cameos in V3.

Didn't like Future arc very much -- most of Despair arc was much better thematically & character-wise. But this ep was great.
 
Sep 13, 2017 7:09 PM

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I don't know about anyone else but I was still hoping that Chiaki was still somehow alive in someway. The show is great and the ending is great but the fact that she dies(twice) and is the only character to not get a happy ending will probably bother me for a bit. Like Kyoko lived, why can't Chiaki? I understand her death was important in multiple ways...but still I wish she would of lived. At least she is an AI I guess...


Wouldn't be hard to come up with a reason if they really wanted to. After Chiaki seemingly dies and Izuru is moved he uses his powers to stabilize her condition and hides her away to recover where she returns at the end like a certain someone. Arguable a cop-out like Kirigiri and would take away from her sacrifice but certainly not impossible.

This series was rough on me. Grew so attached to Chiaki that just seeing the AI version was offputting.
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Sep 28, 2017 1:53 AM

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Good conclusion ending! No amazing speech from Naegi this time like in season 1 lol, but I still like how it ended XD My favorite characters from Danganronpa got to be Asahina and Togami !!!!!!!!!
 
Sep 30, 2017 12:38 AM

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Watching it the 2nd time after Zetsubou is SO MUCH BETTER now that I understand everything and everyone! I LOVE DANGANRONPA !!! XD
 
Jan 6, 2018 1:20 AM

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SHSL Assault Team?
It is Hajime.
Those eyes.
episode: hope
Dat logo.
Is that... Dat rock. Dem rocks.
Oh shit! Nagito!
lol at Impostor.
Peko!!!!!
lol at Gundham.
Nekomaru and Kazuichi.
Sonia complimented Kazuichi? Nani!?
Akane oppai.
Kill Hiyoko! Please!
My waifu Mikan!!! AAAAAAAAAAAAH! Irnoic that she's the one to save Hiyoko.
How dare you call Mikan that after she saved you! You better learn your place and thank her.
Hajime confronts Ryouta.
Tsumaranai.
Mikan and the others are there.
Makoto, why you hiding? You're the MC. Get in the there.
The timer!
Dat Hajime-Makoto nod.
My waifu Mikan is talking to Makoto? AAAAAAAAAAAH!
OMG! Nagito and Makoto. Luck and Luck...are in the same scene and they're talking to each other. Megumi-ception! How I've waited for this scene to happen since DR2.
lol at them carrying Nagito away.
So that's how digital Chiaki came to be.
Aoi oppai.
Mikan has a drug that delay's the bangles poison? She used it on someone? Could it be?
Those legs.. It's... Turn around Makoto!
Komaru is there. I wonder if she told Aoi about Yuta?
KYOUKO!!!!!!!!!!!! AAAAAAAAAAAAH!
Makoto is the principal!

And that was The End of Kibougamine Gakuen. What a great finale. My DR2 waifu saved my DR1 waifu. MIKAN TSUMIKI! I FUCKING LOVE YOU! It can't get any more beautiful than that. I cried! It was fate that Kyouko and Mikan would be my DR waifu's. I knew Kyouko wasn't dead. I refused to believe it. I refused to fall into zetsubou. I hoped that the poison put her in a dead-like state and I was right. Loved the Mugumi-ception. My dream of it happening came true. Unfortunate that Megumi didn't sing the ED theme tho. With that said...I'll miss my waifu's Kyouko, Mikan, and Chisa.

*Makoto voice* Kibou wa mae susumu nda!
If you see that my post is exactly 1 month old (or more) from when it was posted... Don't waste your time, especially when you want to reply with something petty & insignificant. Assume that I've moved on (because I have).
 
Feb 13, 2018 12:50 PM

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KIRIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIGIRIIIIIIIIIII ESKETITTTTTTTTTTTTTTTTTTTTTTT
 
Feb 18, 2018 5:18 PM

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Initially I assumed the whole D3 Future arc and D3 Despair arc anime was created to promote the Danganronpa V3 but maybe I could be wrong or maybe not. The whole future arc and hope arc don't seem like they are based of any new Danganronpa game but presumably a manga to conclude the series. Personally I haven't played any of the games or read the manga but I did watch video summaries on the events of D2 to understand the story of D3. I watched this show in a D3 Future Arc Ep 1, D3 Despair Arc Ep 1, D3 Future Arc Ep 2, D3 Despair Arc Ep 2 sequence but it didn't matter much since D3 Despair Arc takes place before the events of Danganronpa THH. But the Despair arc provides a fairly nice insight what led to the chaos.

Honestly, I think the story itself felt pretty mediocre this time unlike Danganronpa Trigger Happy Havoc especially the future arc. It didn't seem interesting or engaging but rather tedious and confusing at times. Additionally, everything felt too predictable and that kinda ruined the suspense and intensity of a murder mystery.

Furthermore, I don't like fast paced shows or games with too many characters. I didn't even care much about any of the characters either except for Nagito who was fun to watch. But I disliked the two incredibly boring and bland protagonists. And to make matters worse they had female voice actors. It always so annoying to hear a feminine voice for a possibly 17 to 18 year old boys.

The ending was lame and stupid. I mean all the Future foundation member suicides were orchestrated by Future Foundation chairman Kazuo just to convince a cowardly Mitarai to broadcast a hope video which had same brainwashing effects like the despair video. And Mitarai who didn't do anything so far to rectify his mistake of creating those chaotic videos that led to so many deaths and a world wide apocalypse suddenly developed a will to do so after seeing few people die. But was later convinced by Hajime and Class 78 to go on a cruise trip instead to atone their sins. While Naegi became a principal of a new Hope's peak Academy like it made a difference considering the whole world is still in chaos.

Thank god this is over.
 
Aug 12, 2018 12:38 PM
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The only thing that don't like me is they behavior, because is like they never were Ultimate Despair and don't have kill thousand of people. Ok they have been redeemed but at least they should have been a little traumatized by the experience. C'mon after all they have done they can't be the same kids they were before


You can say that they retained all their previous memories and from DR2 and that made them able to face it much better, besides with Hajime by their side there is nothing they cant accomplish.

I see alot of bitching for this ending, but things where well explained, seeing Hajime again was a highlight too, seeing the conclusion he come to after DR2... this was really an happy ending the series deserved.
Chiaki best DR girl forever!
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Oct 22, 2018 11:24 AM

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I'm so happy Kirigiri is alive. I was so agonized over it.
 
Dec 29, 2018 11:13 PM

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damn wish i saw this after i finished both danganronpa 3s. would've been a lot better to me, but from what i remember, it's still a good ending to both of them. glad to see kirigiri is alive.
 
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Wow. Just wow. I just finished watching Mirai-hen, Zetsubou-hen, Kibou-hen and SDR2.5; and I was absolutely blown away. Tbh I don't understand the negative feedback I heard about DR3 as a whole. Yeah it's kinda lacking but overall, it's still pretty good.

I just love how the creators were able leave almost no stone unturned. All loose threads since DR1 were tied up nicely giving me a satisfying ending to my most favorite video game series of all time.

I love how the DR2 cast came and saved the day. Ahhh, I just love them so much. I love how they convinced Mitarai to not broadcast the vid and just join them. Now, this is the kind of nakama theme done right.

And I'm happy that Makoto gave the spotlight to them.

And then, while they were on the ship, I was like "Come on! I need Chiaki. Even just a memory/flashback or something will do. I just wanna see her." And bam! There she was! And her appearance was definitely executed well.

I thought at this point there were no more tears left to cry (because honestly, I've been crying non-stop ever since the Kibou-hen ep started), but boy was I wrong. I sobbed harder than before. I just love her so much.

And darn! Yes, Kyoko is alive! I'm so happy for Makoto. I don't want another MC to have a tragic love story. Hajime's enough already. I want a happy ending and that's what I got. I'm so glad she survived.

And finally, the ending. They rebult Hope's Peak Academy. And Makoto's the headmaster. Wahhhh, this is just so great! I love, love, love it!

Let me just say that all those tears, and mental screams of agony I endured since DR1 were definitely worth it. The happiness I felt when all it ended can never be described with words that can give it justice. It was truly satisfying and made every step of journey I had with this video game/anime more meaningful.

TLDR: Just finished watching the DR3 anime including Kibou-hen and SDR2.5 and wow, what a ride. I love everything they did and how it ended especially since the whole DR2 cast (except Chiaki) survived. I couldn't ask for a better ending! Not to mention Chiaki showed up as well. Darn these ninjas cutting onions.

And I'm glad they rebuilt Hope's Peak Academy. Makoto's a headmaster and Kyoko's with him too. Ahh, my ship~

Overall, it was really satisfying and I don't understand the hate from some people. It's kinda lacking but still a great conclusion. The despair I felt since DR1 was definitely worth it.

P.S.: I'll never get enough of the DR2 cast. I'm so attached to them. Especially Chiaki. I don't care if she's dead. She's definitely #BestGirl to me.

P.P.S.: Time to replay SDR2 and then V3!
 
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Every time they always surprise me. I was first surprised because Aoi Asahina had died but then she was actually alive, and then the kill off Kyoko Kirigiri which really got me, but SHE SURVIVED AS WELL. Man, they keep surprising me, what a blast.
 
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So Kirigiri is still alive? Well, I'm glad for that.

I really liked this episode. It was nice to see again everyone from the Despair arc after the events of Danganronpa 2. Naegi becoming the director was really nice.

Well, now I'm ready to play V3. I was so excited to play it that I almost skipped Danganronpa 3, but I'm glad that I watched.
 
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Finished the Hope Episode

-so out of no where we see the "Ultimate assault team" land,which sounds pretty intriguing,except that they are brainwashed too somehow and we wont get to know anything at all about them and they are used as cannon fodder for the 77ers instead >_>. what a waste of an intriguing concept. they should have landed with Togami instead, that way we would have at least gotten a glimpse of who they were. also,no clue where that dinosaur robot came from >_>.

-the Nagito "Pebbles" scene and how V2 took Munakata's look were funny scenes though XD. also,Nagito's arm confirmed to have been changed,and Byakuya V2 kept changing shapes throughout the episode: First Munakata,then Ryota,then Back to Byakuya,which was a nice touch. sucks that we didnt get to see him interact with the original Byakuya though,as it would have been a nice scene,especially considering how much V2 revered him in DR2. would have also been funny if they had interacted while V2 was in Byakuya's look XD

-Nice DR2 reference with the Minimarus XD

-WHY THE HELL is Mikan back to normal??!! First,she was the only one who had her personality changed instead of simply mindwashed. Second,in DR2 she knew she was in a VR and was willing to kill and die to go to her beloved,which is Junko. there is absolutely NO REASON for her to be anything but an ROD right now,as the NWP that saved the rest completely failed in her case because, again, unlike the rest, she wasnt brainwashed. she should have been the only one of them who is still an ROD through and through,so it legit pisses me off that she seems to be normal again,despite every single thing that ever happened to her saying that she should still be a ROD.

-also,in the end Naegi was completely useless lol. he didnt even confront Ryota. Seriously,the ONLY thing that he did in the entire Future/Hope Arc was convincing Munakata,and even if that hadnt happened Munakata would have still been apprehended by Byakuya and the 77ers,so if Naegi literally wasnt even involved pretty much nothing would have changed.
It is Astonishing tbh. at the very first episode it was clearly stated that this would be the final battle between Monokuma and Naegi,yet neither Monokuma nor Naegi actually did s*** in this whole thing. bloody damn that is disappointing >_>

-Seems like Naegi is really short too,considering the height difference between him and Hinata,or Hinata is just a giant lol

-I wonder what Mikan wanted to say before Nagito pushed her aside lol

-the "ROD admission" scene pissed me off. i understood why they did it,but this way their "future" that they keep talking about will never happen,because the whole world now,including almost all of the Future Foundation, still sees them as their old ROD selves. there was also literally no need for them all to appear. just have a single one of them declare his responsibility and the goal would have been achieved without hurting the rest of them. where the hell will they build their "future" now? back to the same bloody island?

-their explanation as to how AI Chiaki was created was nice but completely contradictory,as in DR2 Chiaki clearly stated she has "a father"(singular)and "an older brother"(Alter Ego most likely),which strongly hinted at Chihiro designing her,but fully confirmed that only one guy designed her,which is the exact opposite of what she said here.

-aaand Kirigiri is back in the last 1.30minutes of the show >_>. that is simply BS that was done for the sake of pandering to the crowd,as there is no doubt that they would have noticed when they were hugging her if she was simply in a coma from her breath,heart beat,etc.

-however,the counts makes no sense whatsoever now. counting Hagakure in, it had been perfectly consistent up until now,but how the hell were there 6 left in Future Episode 10 if she was alive?? that simply doesnt work anymore and is a big plothole,as that count was depended upon to figure out who is alive and who isnt.

-so from the last shot it seems like they are preparing the HPA to be used once more with Naegi being the Dean? you'd think the school that was directly responsible for world destruction wouldnt exactly be a place that people would want to go to anymore,let alone look up to >_>. guess class 80 and so on will come soon and f*** the world up again lol.

-a few of the many plotholes and questions that this episode left unresolved:
--why did Munakata say at the end of the first episode when he saw chisa's body "tell me yukizome,I am not mistaken,am I?"? that line makes no sense now.
--why did Tengan tell Munakata "Is that why you sacrificed chisa?" when he didnt sacrifice her?
--how did Hinata and co acquire a ship and escape from all the attacking ships? alternatively,how did they defeat all the ships?
--and many many more.

overall,the episode was pretty much just fan service,and it caused more questions and plotholes than it answered. originally after watching it i was going to give it a 5,but now that i thought about it a 4 is a more fitting rating. Future Arc,which literally only had ONE good episode (episode 6) is a 2 (would have been a 3 if not for the worst,most despair inducing, DR episode of all time,AKA episode 7), and Despair Arc is an 8,which is,funnily enough, the same rating i gave DR2 lol XD. also, for reference,DR1 was a 9 and DR:UDG a 7.5

DRV3 is next,but not immediately as i have had enough "plot twists" for now and dont want to become burned out. I am certain it wont be long until i start it though lol

Edit:just found this post-DR3 Kodaka interview. it seems like he is unaware of all the dislike DR3 got? or any of the complaints about it? also,he outright lies about DR2.5 here,mentioning stuff that never occured in it (unless it was still in the planning stages then?). an intriguing read nonetheless.
http://kamase-megane.tumblr.com/post/153504419222/dr3-spoiler-warning-heres-a-post-kibou-hen
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