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Sep 27, 2016 6:39 PM
#1
Title says it all, with the abundance of subpar remakes (subjective opinion) and rumors of some in development that have been popping up within the past few years and even recently, do you have a positive initial response when you hear a classic is being remade? Or has it left you feeling a bit cautious and/or pessimistic? |
Sep 27, 2016 6:40 PM
#2
I'm all for it, I might actually bother to watch them if remade. I would have never touched the JoJo series without the remake back in 2012. |
Sep 27, 2016 6:45 PM
#3
It's an unhelpful answer, but I like remakes when they're good, and dislike them when they're bad. ;) |
Sep 27, 2016 6:47 PM
#4
I'm not for remakes and such, they could be good or bad but generally they are exercises on nostalgia in the sense a whole bunch of stuff will matter only to fans and to no1 else. Characters won't get to act out of characters, you don't get to watch different ones in the same situations for different moments, and you don't need to keep the same heroes for whatever dramatic moment in program. |
FondenteSep 27, 2016 6:51 PM
Sep 27, 2016 6:48 PM
#5
There is nothing wrong with remakes, as the idea is to take an oldie ("classics") and improve them to meet today's standards/expectations/quality-level. At the very least, remakes give awareness to the original, so even if the remake is garbage it will either make you want to watch the old version again or it will hopefully bring more fans into the community. In other words, I'm all for it. It could allow someone like me to enjoy anime from ten, fifteen, even twenty years ago that I don't know about or just can't get into. |
Sep 27, 2016 6:55 PM
#6
MindForged said: It's an unhelpful answer, but I like remakes when they're good, and dislike them when they're bad. ;) That honestly sums up my feelings pretty well so I'd say that was a helpful answer lol. zxcasdqwe123cat said: I'm not for remakes and such, they could be good or bad but generally they are exercises on nostalgia in the sense a whole bunch of stuff will matter only to fans and to no1 else. Characters won't get to act out of characters, you don't get to watch different ones in the same situations for different moments, so it's all going to be kind trite. Disagree, good remakes can really bridge a generational gap and expand a fanbase when adapted respectfully and not merely as a reason to get nostalgia rocks off or milk for cash. An earlier post is a great example of this with Jojo. |
Sep 27, 2016 7:29 PM
#7
Well, a problem I have is when remakes decide to go with CG. CG is so often poorly implemented in anime, that it can take me out of it. So while I can be perfectly satisfied by the '97 adaptation of the earlier Berserk manga volumes (despite some dated animation on occasion), the 2016 Berserk anime adaptation just turns me off in so many ways: Poor shot composition, odd use of shading despite the environments being bright, some stuff animation of the 3d models, etc. |
Sep 27, 2016 7:47 PM
#8
Yay! I like remade classics as long as they don't suck |
Sep 27, 2016 7:50 PM
#9
Sailor Moon Crystal sucks because of its poor animation, CG, and art style. However, I'd love ufotable to remake the Fate arc of Stay Night. If the original isn't flawed don't mess with it. If you can't outdo the original, don't bother. Remaking Kanon was a wonderful idea. |
Sep 27, 2016 8:03 PM
#10
Unless it unanimously turns out to be one of the worst things ever, it really only ever means good things tbh. Liden Films or David Productions, it's more exposure. |
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Sep 27, 2016 8:10 PM
#11
It already failed so hard with movies and cartoons, please don't even suggest further damage of my childhood nostalgia. You can't possibly think the anime industry in the state it is now can somehow manage to make even semi-decent remake. I'd say it's an 80% chance of being a low budget, CGI piece of garbage made by someone who's only previous directing role was in colourful school girl short animes. |
Sep 27, 2016 9:11 PM
#12
it depends of the output :D ............................. |
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Sep 27, 2016 9:16 PM
#13
I'd like a HnK remake but a lot of the charm of Hnk is the age and art style so I dunno. |
Sep 27, 2016 9:24 PM
#14
Normally I hate remakes when it comes to things like movies and games since they're usually unnecessary cash grabs, but I'm completely ok with anime remakes. Unlike with movies, most remade anime had a reason to be remade. FMA didn't follow the manga, Evangelion had budget cuts up the ass and the director was not in the best state of mind to do his job well, and Berserk only covered the first few chapters. Anime remakes usually add new things or outright completely change the direction of the story which actually make them worth watching. |
NihilfistSep 27, 2016 10:56 PM
Sep 27, 2016 9:30 PM
#15
Nihilfist said: Normally I hate remakes when it comes to things like movies and games since they're usually unnecessary cash grabs, but I'm completely ok with anime remakes. Unlike with movies, most remade anime had a reason to be remade. FMA didn't follow the manga, Evangelion had budget cuts up the ass and the director was not in the best state of mind to do his job well, and Berserk only covered the first few chapters. Anime remakes usually add new things or outright completely change the direction of the story which actually worth watching. This is how I feel as well pretty much nailed it. |
Sep 27, 2016 9:31 PM
#16
The only thing I ask for in a remake is that it stand on its own. If I have to be familiar with a show that aired 30 years ago that I have no intention of watching, then I'm not going to be a fan of the remake. Sure, go ahead and throw in references to the original show if you want, but make them subtle enough that I can still enjoy the new one even if I don't get those references. On the other hand, if you make it too different, you're going to alienate the original fans, which is possibly even worse. With remakes and adaptations you walk a fine line. It has to be similar enough that fans of the original won't feel you betrayed them, yet different enough that a new generation of fans can enjoy it as well. |
Sep 27, 2016 9:49 PM
#17
yes and no, hxh 2011 because it was unfinished before hayate season 3 4 suck, the first was perfect, joke and animation wise. but yeah im up for remakes of series i like, he risk of it sucking don't matter, welcome to the nhk id like a remake of, but it was already super good before, maybe a manga novel closer adaptation like brotherhood fma was closer to the real manga, rather than filler content and fake arcs that weren't in the original work, |
Sep 27, 2016 10:11 PM
#18
lasterrending said: I don't think a remake has any obligation to be faithful to the original. Better that it does its own thing so as not to be redundant. The only thing I ask for in a remake is that it stand on its own. If I have to be familiar with a show that aired 30 years ago that I have no intention of watching, then I'm not going to be a fan of the remake. Sure, go ahead and throw in references to the original show if you want, but make them subtle enough that I can still enjoy the new one even if I don't get those references. On the other hand, if you make it too different, you're going to alienate the original fans, which is possibly even worse. With remakes and adaptations you walk a fine line. It has to be similar enough that fans of the original won't feel you betrayed them, yet different enough that a new generation of fans can enjoy it as well. Sanzuwu said: Pretty much.You can't possibly think the anime industry in the state it is now can somehow manage to make even semi-decent remake. I'd say it's an 80% chance of being a low budget, CGI piece of garbage made by someone who's only previous directing role was in colourful school girl short animes. |
Sep 28, 2016 12:10 AM
#19
Well, let's wait for LotGH(2017) to finish, and II'll come back to you. |
Sep 28, 2016 12:15 AM
#20
Well, I often don't like the remakes, but there's nothing wrong with the idea itself. |
Sep 28, 2016 12:45 AM
#21
Layfonkun said: what the actual fuck? where do you see abundance?Title says it all, with the abundance of subpar remakes (subjective opinion) Layfonkun said: :V variations of "i like good anime i dislike bad anime" are like the least descriptive tier of answers MindForged said: It's an unhelpful answer, but I like remakes when they're good, and dislike them when they're bad. ;) That honestly sums up my feelings pretty well so I'd say that was a helpful answer lol. not helpful at all i say.. |
Sep 28, 2016 12:46 AM
#22
In the ninties there was a bunch of remakes but there was practically no ability for things to be upscaled or to go back in the same way. I sometimes dream of certain ones being redone... mostly because the were originally movies or OVAs. My biggest dream of all is true to manga design full scale possibly like Digimon tri so they would have the budget- AKIRA in full... the manga version in anime form... complete. I just really want to see that as a real anime and not just in a manga. |
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Sep 28, 2016 2:48 AM
#23
such abundance much saturation I remember like 2 remakes in the last couple years. Ushio to Tora & Arslan Senki and both were pretty good in my opinion. |
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Sep 28, 2016 2:52 AM
#24
It would be great! It's fun to watch old things you liked in a new look. It can also be good to discover new (old) stuff...if you know what I mean. |
Sep 28, 2016 2:54 AM
#25
I wouldn't mind a remake of Rurouni Kenshin, as long as it doesn't turn out to be something like Berserk 2016 :> |
Sep 28, 2016 3:07 AM
#26
Eh, only if the original animation isn't good. Most anime pre-90s could probably benefit from a remake. |
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Sep 28, 2016 3:28 AM
#27
Sep 28, 2016 3:31 AM
#28
MortalMelancholy said: Eh, only if the original animation isn't good. Most anime pre-90s could probably benefit from a remake. i call bull shit you cannot take thing out pf the tiiem its set akira for example should ne be reamde since it was meant as commnmety on raising teenage deliucay in Japan as the time i was written as was Kiseiju one of the main reason i hated the changes made in Kiseiju Anime taking it out of its time makes it loose the reason i was written |
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Sep 28, 2016 3:35 AM
#29
yay only for the ones i like the shit one like evangelion should just go to garbage bin |
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Sep 28, 2016 3:35 AM
#30
If they are good like Uchuu Senkan Yamato 2199 or Shin Mazinger i'm ok with remakes. This season we have Tiger Mask, sadly it's done by fucking Toei. |
Sep 28, 2016 3:41 AM
#31
Johnnyd3rp said: well..........so was the originalIf they are good like Uchuu Senkan Yamato 2199 or Shin Mazinger i'm ok with remakes. This season we have Tiger Mask, sadly it's done by fucking Toei. |
Sep 28, 2016 3:46 AM
#32
romagia said: Johnnyd3rp said: well..........so was the originalIf they are good like Uchuu Senkan Yamato 2199 or Shin Mazinger i'm ok with remakes. This season we have Tiger Mask, sadly it's done by fucking Toei. Well i know, a good amount of my childhood anime were made by them. It's just that lately their works are pretty bad. |
Sep 28, 2016 3:53 AM
#33
Johnnyd3rp said: If they are good like Uchuu Senkan Yamato 2199 or Shin Mazinger i'm ok with remakes. This season we have Tiger Mask, sadly it's done by fucking Toei. TV asashi own tiger mask who else would do it your seen afaied that an might havea good mainstream run |
"If you tremble with indignation at every injustice, then you are a comrade of mine" When the union's inspiration through the workers' blood shall run There can be no power greater anywhere beneath the sun Yet what force on earth is weaker than the feeble strength of one For the Union makes us strong |
Sep 28, 2016 4:02 AM
#34
I'm all for it but they should remake ones that were mishandled by bad studios tbh. There are great ones, mostly VNs that were butchered. :/ |
Sep 28, 2016 4:11 AM
#35
Star_Slayer said: I'd like a HnK remake but a lot of the charm of Hnk is the age and art style so I dunno. There is already a pentalogy remake of HnK https://myanimelist.net/anime/1773/Hokuto_no_Ken__Raoh_Gaiden_Junai-hen |
Sep 28, 2016 4:24 AM
#36
DateYutaka said: MortalMelancholy said: Eh, only if the original animation isn't good. Most anime pre-90s could probably benefit from a remake. i call bull shit you cannot take thing out pf the tiiem its set akira for example should ne be reamde since it was meant as commnmety on raising teenage deliucay in Japan as the time i was written as was Kiseiju one of the main reason i hated the changes made in Kiseiju Anime taking it out of its time makes it loose the reason i was written You're drunk, go back to sleep lmao. |
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Sep 28, 2016 4:26 AM
#37
I agree, we need a full remake of the Bible Black franchise. |
Sep 28, 2016 4:31 AM
#38
the first season of the sailor moon remake was trash so... we don't really need them |
Sep 28, 2016 4:33 AM
#39
MortalMelancholy said: DateYutaka said: MortalMelancholy said: Eh, only if the original animation isn't good. Most anime pre-90s could probably benefit from a remake. i call bull shit you cannot take thing out pf the tiiem its set akira for example should ne be reamde since it was meant as commnmety on raising teenage deliucay in Japan as the time i was written as was Kiseiju one of the main reason i hated the changes made in Kiseiju Anime taking it out of its time makes it loose the reason i was written You're drunk, go back to sleep lmao. im not im stating facts that people cannot take |
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Sep 28, 2016 4:38 AM
#40
DateYutaka said: MortalMelancholy said: DateYutaka said: MortalMelancholy said: Eh, only if the original animation isn't good. Most anime pre-90s could probably benefit from a remake. i call bull shit you cannot take thing out pf the tiiem its set akira for example should ne be reamde since it was meant as commnmety on raising teenage deliucay in Japan as the time i was written as was Kiseiju one of the main reason i hated the changes made in Kiseiju Anime taking it out of its time makes it loose the reason i was written You're drunk, go back to sleep lmao. im not im stating facts that people cannot take You mean, you're too drunk to type, so people cannot understand you. |
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Sep 28, 2016 4:46 AM
#41
bottle said: Dragon Ball is good. The new super series is funny provided that you got the humor and watch with other DB fans. One Piece will likely be good I guess as the original anime is already the worst to begin with, they got nothing to compare. Was there any announcement regarding One Piece? Even remaking only the after-timeskip part would be amazing. I usually have a positive initial thought since if its smth old it would usually be popular and that means it has to have some sort of quality. MortalMelancholy said: DateYutaka said: MortalMelancholy said: DateYutaka said: MortalMelancholy said: Eh, only if the original animation isn't good. Most anime pre-90s could probably benefit from a remake. i call bull shit you cannot take thing out pf the tiiem its set akira for example should ne be reamde since it was meant as commnmety on raising teenage deliucay in Japan as the time i was written as was Kiseiju one of the main reason i hated the changes made in Kiseiju Anime taking it out of its time makes it loose the reason i was written You're drunk, go back to sleep lmao. im not im stating facts that people cannot take You mean, you're too drunk to type, so people cannot understand you. Relax guys, its his style :) Its kind of a trademark(but I still always wonder how he managed to post 22k) |
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Sep 28, 2016 4:57 AM
#42
If the original was an incomplete and/or unfaithful adaptation, yay! If the original was a complete and faithful adaptation (for example, Yu Yu Hakusho), nay! If the original was an incomplete, but faithful adaptation, it should just get a sequel tbh. |
wildhoodSep 28, 2016 5:01 AM
Sep 28, 2016 5:35 AM
#43
If it's something like Hunter X Hunter (2011), Ushio To Tora, Parasyte The Maxim etc... - Yay If it's something with crappy CGI that makes you cringe like Berserk (2016) etc... - Nay |
Sep 28, 2016 6:11 AM
#44
The Evangelion rebuilds have been really good so far. Keroro was essentially a remake of Keroro Gunsou, and it was bad. No one should consider watching Keroro. Everyone should consider watching Keroro Gunsou. |
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Sep 28, 2016 6:17 AM
#45
It really depends on the shows. Look at Beserk(2016) and HunterxHunter(2011) totally differrent outcomes right ? P.S. but some shows just shouldn't ever have a remake. For example Gurren Lagann and Dragonball Z. It would just ruin the show. P.S.2 I would like to see good remake of Elfen lied though. |
Sep 28, 2016 6:25 AM
#46
Why remake the classics, watch the classics and remake the stuff that had potential and wasted it. Or you know you could continue the series that were dropped before they had a chance to become classics too, gotta be some of them with source material...there seems to be a lot of highly acclaimed series getting sequels recently though so maybe this is already a thing |
Sep 28, 2016 10:21 AM
#47
After getting bit in the ass with Sailor Moon Crystal, I'm quite hesitant to be all behind anime remakes. Edit: Would the EVA rebuilds be considered a remake or a reimaging? Because it fails at both. |
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Sep 28, 2016 2:31 PM
#48
I don't know. A big part of me would like to see some of my favorites remade for today, but the chances of them messing it up is so high. There was recently a poll in Japan asking people what Anime they would like to see remade, and "Galaxy Express 999" was at the top of the poll. While I would love to see GE999 remade, if it looks like Yamato 2199, forget it, because that looks downright awful. |
Sep 28, 2016 2:35 PM
#49
80% of remakes are/were good, so why not? I'm all for the 80's,90's getting remakes, having great stories with great animation will be awesome. |
Sep 28, 2016 2:46 PM
#50
Depends on how and what's getting remade. From that recent poll, if GE999's remake looks like Yamato 2199, I'd watch it for gratuitous shots of Maetel's ass. |
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