| Complaining about lengthy conversations in politics? That's kinda contradictory. Just wait for Ginga Eiyuu Densetsu (2017) to make politics in anime great again. |
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| Kingdom is quite serious Magi also has politics but pretty shit |
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| but code geass is the most not blandly executed political anime ever why not give examples of bad execution? why is there murder in the title? what does it have to do with politics and corruption? |
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| No, politics, corruption, and murder are simply bland. |
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| Just because nothing in anime reaches the immeasurable greatness that is The Wire doesn't mean it's generally bland and badly executed. |
| I probably regret this post by now. |
| No, you're just watching bad anime. Stop watching bad anime. Only watch Evangelion on repeat. |
| every single one of my forum posts is dumb and invalid except for 1, I don't claim them it was a different person it was all fake |
On_the_Lam said: That's the same I felt for a manga will air soon more than Code Geass (which had very little of actual politics) but I am not going to spoil it here.zal said: Complaining about lengthy conversations in politics? That's kinda contradictory. Just wait for Ginga Eiyuu Densetsu (2017) to make politics in anime great again. Lengthy and uninteresting conversations* Maybe you should try reading the manga Akumetsu even though it is still not western style politics but full of murders and stories about political corruptions. The manga team medical dragon has interesting hospital politics in it. |
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On_the_Lam said: I believe most anime fans (especially younger ones) do not care nor are interested in watching animated politics because it's boring. And if you like logh (one of the few that tries to do politics seriously) then you are an elitist.zal said: That's the same I felt for a manga will air soon more than Code Geass (which had very little of actual politics) but I am not going to spoil it here. Maybe you should try reading the manga Akumetsu even though it is still not western style politics but full of murders and stories about political corruptions. The manga team medical dragon has interesting hospital politics in it. Code Geass, especially R2, is completely built on politics, and its main theme is terrorism. Since you're only recommending manga, I assume you also believe anime doesn't do a good job with politics? Code geass worked for most people because it is not really about politics but more about "fight the power" in an exaggerated and theatrical way. Plus the revenge thing that is always appreciated. I would say politics were way too superficial to call the show built on it. |
zalSep 27, 2016 1:41 PM
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| I feel Shinsekai Yori did a pretty good job. |
| On The Lam is always looking for something to mention Code GaYASS and how he hate it lol just lol. (Code Gayass was not deep in political department so yes you are right, not to say that it was very bad, that show had some themes about it) but GayASS was more than just politics, so its up to the viewer to how he interpret the show and base his/her criticism of it. On_the_Lam said: zal said: That's the same I felt for a manga will air soon more than Code Geass (which had very little of actual politics) but I am not going to spoil it here. Maybe you should try reading the manga Akumetsu even though it is still not western style politics but full of murders and stories about political corruptions. The manga team medical dragon has interesting hospital politics in it. Code Geass, especially R2, is completely built on politics, and its main theme is terrorism. Since you're only recommending manga, I assume you also believe anime doesn't do a good job with politics? I'm not 100% sure of this, but i dont think the main theme was about terrorism, i guess you've missed it. __________________________ Anyway I guess i agree with you my fellow hater, Ghost in the Shell 2nd GIG is one of the best anime about politics. I'm looking forward for LOTGH. The thing is not only Anime, but most entertainment mediums tend to execute politics blandly, maybe because politics sucks anyway? I dont know. |
Dr-EyesSep 27, 2016 2:44 PM
| Not to make this any more of a vs. thread, but by what stick are we measuring, OP? By what standard? |
| ...Seriously? I find politics handled in anime are better and more interesting then what the West can produce. The West(specifically the USA) treats politics as a joke most of the time. I mean have you seen who's running for President? |
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On_the_Lam said: Klassical said: The thing is not only Anime, but most entertainment mediums tend to execute politics blandly, maybe because politics sucks anyway? I dont know. No, it's mostly because there are a lot of people like yourself and studios are trying to make it easy for you to understand things, which means the people who don't completely lack braincells have to suffer from badly executed entertainment. Then what a waste for humanity that people as smart as you tend to waste their time and their braincells energy here on MAL hating on things and complaining all the time about others instead of doing something productive with their lives. Tell me of your next project and i will support and donate for it, you go buddy!. |
On_the_Lam said: Klassical said: Then what a waste for humanity that people as smart as you tend to waste their time and their braincells energy here on MAL hating on things and complaining all the time about others instead of doing something productive with their lives. Tell me of your next project and i will support and donate for it, you go buddy!. I don't know. I'm not the one who ridicules his favorite series by calling it "Gay ass". But I'm a self hating ignorant so it doesn't matter anyway. Maybe when i reach your superior IQ then i will get it. |
On_the_Lam said: "Audiences demand more quality", how many reality shows do we have now? How many of them are actually good? None, we have always been about quantity not sure what made you think were not. You say One Piece but people actually want that so your using a bad example.Major123 said: ...Seriously? I find politics handled in anime are better and more interesting then what the West can produce. The West(specifically the USA) treats politics as a joke most of the time. I mean have you seen who's running for President? Don't compare real life politics to fictional ones. Besides, America isn't the only country in the West. Western fiction (on TV) is done better in almost every aspect, because audiences demand more quality, whereas in Japan people still watch One Piece. Klassical said: Maybe when i reach your superior IQ then i will get it. Ok. |
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On_the_Lam said: Don't worry it recently passed half of the story so the end is indeed in sight. The issue I have is not that it is going nowhere (which has always been the way one piece was) but that it is going very slowly there, plus the only 3 chapters per month.Major123 said: "Audiences demand more quality", how many reality shows do we have now? How many of them are actually good? None, we have always been about quantity not sure what made you think were not. You say One Piece but people actually want that so your using a bad example. F I C T I O N A L. S E R I E S. I used One Piece because it's been on-going for fucking series with no end in sight, and people don't care and will still watch it even if it isn't going anywhere at this point. |
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| depends on the show you're watching, some shows do it great, others do it fucking awful. |
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Milk_is_Special said: Which shows do it great? I might want to check them out.depends on the show you're watching, some shows do it great, others do it fucking awful. |
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zal said: I haven't really watched that many though but 2 good ones are Akatsuki no Yona, although not focusing on it, has a pretty good execution of betrayal and corruption.Milk_is_Special said: Which shows do it great? I might want to check them out.depends on the show you're watching, some shows do it great, others do it fucking awful. Log Horizon is a show that deals more with economics and building a new world instead of politics, but it does get a few small bits of political scenes. |
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zal said: Ohh we're gonna build that empire. And the alliance is going to pay for it.Complaining about lengthy conversations in politics? That's kinda contradictory. Just wait for Ginga Eiyuu Densetsu (2017) to make politics in anime great again. @ Topic - It'll probably never be House of Cards, but at the very least I'm glad that anime isn't politicized. Hollywood is essentially one giant echo chamber for a certain thought group which leads to certain agendas getting shoved into the movies/television they produce. |
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Nico- said: >expecting Japan to bow down to Western-style liberalism KEK, this is exactly why blind cultural arrogance exists here. Absolutely this. People just bitch that the politics arent handled the way they want them. Politcs in a medium produced by another country that is different in well... everything pretty much is gonna be, guess what, DIFFERENT. And well, Im also getting the idea that you are watching shows that politics arent highly relevant and only a minor element as opposed to some western series that are extremely heavy on it. Well, if you want pollitics, stick to mediums where politics are the current trend then. Easy as that. |
| Personal opinion, but i think politics is better portrayed in live action. |
| Dude, what you just need to do is read the daily news in some website... That's all... |
| Live action comedies like stephen colbert are the best shows for political drama. If you're looking for good politics in anime there's Legend of the Galactic Heroes but it's really slow and could be boring if you don't have an interest in history. |
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Nico- said: What would be anime that do well eastern-style politics? >expecting Japan to bow down to Western-style liberalism KEK, this is exactly why blind cultural arrogance exists here. Except for the manga team medical dragon I don't recall any show that does it in a serious and interesting way. |
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| Politics is bland in general. This is a good thing in anime. Politics being bland mean that they're usually understandable. Politics being complex AF makes the audience confused. There's plenty of examples of non-bland politics in anime and manga where the viewers don't know what the fuck is going on, therefore having "bland" politics is ideal. Though of course there's that rare case of complex politics in anime that is interesting and presented in a way that's easy to grab onto. |
| Politic is boring as fuq in general, All mediums should stay the hell away from them. |
| Anime and politics? Come on man I dont even think about that |
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| Code Geass is the perfect example of how politics work since it managed to trick the vast majority of viewers that it has anything to do with politics. It was very entertaining nonetheless. Magi did a good job of touching politics at the level they were able to(if i remember correctly) |
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Dishonest said: Oh, I haven't heard about that but it seems it was in a recent interview. Good to know that it will take about only 6 years for it to finish. I might even have kids by then XDCode Geass is the perfect example of how politics work since it managed to trick the vast majority of viewers that it has anything to do with politics. It was very entertaining nonetheless. Magi did a good job of touching politics at the level they were able to(if i remember correctly) |
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| Once again a thread where no one has watched Hyouge Mono. Even Seirei no Moribito has political themes along the lines of "what did the star-diviner know, and when did he know it?" That theme gets rather lost at the end though. Shows about political and artistic repression show up from time to time. Oh! Edo Rocket is set during the Tenpou Reforms when things like public entertainments were banned. Okada Mari takes that concept and uses it to drive the AKB0048 idol anime. And, of course, Kill la Kill is all about political repression and the soft fascism of Japanese conformity that is enforced via military-styled school uniforms. Fascism appears again as a theme in Gatchaman Crowds Insight. |
| Speaking of Politics and corruption, I really wish <Hanzawa Naoki> to be adapted into anime. Also, if you want to watch a show about politics, OP, I think anime is the wrong medium for you to search for. |
On_the_Lam said: aqing0601 said: Speaking of Politics and corruption, I really wish <Hanzawa Naoki> to be adapted into anime. Also, if you want to watch a show about politics, OP, I think anime is the wrong medium for you to search for. I didn't ask for political anime suggestions. I was just wondering why politics, WHEN it plays a bigger than average role in the anime, lacks complexity in this medium. mfw Hazawa Naoki isn't even an anime. FFS OP, read my post before replying. Is it really that hard to read 2 lines? AS I HAVE STATED, anime is the wrong medium for politics. I will go into detail now since you wanted more answers. Firstly, most teenagers (most anime's target audience) are not SHOWN to be interested in politics. Even if they are, they lack the depth of knowledge of the field in politics. Secondly, the ones who are STEREO-TYPICALLY have more depth of knowledge of politics are middle-aged people, who are a minority of the general anime audience. These factors have a major impact on why politics anime isn't popular. There's other factors that I could address, but I'll just leave it at that right now. |
On_the_Lam said: Soul-Master said: Absolutely this. People just bitch that the politics arent handled the way they want them. Politcs in a medium produced by another country that is different in well... everything pretty much is gonna be, guess what, DIFFERENT. And well, Im also getting the idea that you are watching shows that politics arent highly relevant and only a minor element as opposed to some western series that are extremely heavy on it. Well, if you want pollitics, stick to mediums where politics are the current trend then. Easy as that. If politics are going to have an important role in telling your story, then at least try to make it interesting and logical. Besides what @Nico- told you... you do realize that I said " shows in which politics arent highly relevant and only a minor element", its natural that the politics wont be developed much because... they are a minor element. On the other hand, if the politics play a major role, then yes, its only natural to expect them to want them to be interesting. Idk what your point is '_>' |
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