Donald Trump Jr compares Syrian refugees to poisoned Skittles

Grey-Zone said:


In the case of the USA, in case that really happened, the GOP would be left with purely fiscal conservatives while all the pure social conservatives and the mixed ones would probably be gone... they'd be running unopposed in every election because Democrats' strongest arguments are the "social conservative crazies" on the GOP side, which would be gone then. Considering how public opinion is that GOP are better in economic issues, the Democrats would become paralized and the GOP would win everything for tens of years. You'd perhaps even see Libertarians replace Democrats because everyone's attention would turn to the SJWs.

Are you sure you would want this?


Let's not even mention the fact that you are essentially proposing the "thought police" to become a real thing which is contrary to your claim of being anti-censorship.

Thrashinuva said:

1. Everyone is dying. Including the fish both in AND out of water.

2. Catfish intentionally leave the water. But I guess we should ignore the outliers, right?

3. Rigorous testing is one of the things we're lacking, hence a problem.

4. 73 billion skittles are made each year. If even one of them killed a person a year, we would have a massive outcry. We don't "know" what's poisoned, but the fact any of them are is a huge concern. And when you have a vast supply of completely healthy M&M's and other candies, why risk skittles, when although the chance is small, the chance is there?


Plenty of people die unintentionally. Accidental death. These are individually driven. Steps are taken to prevent it as much as possible, but to continue our much valued daily lives, we can't avoid accidents altogether.

Plenty of people are murdered each year. Many of these are individually driven. Odds are, if you don't make a habit of pissing people off, you're going to live a fairly murder-free life. It may not be 100% avoidable, but the steps you can take to minimize chances are clear and obvious. Many people simply overestimate their chances and assume too much risk.

Death to disease or related is inevitable. Whether it's cancer or old age, it's going to happen. If you aren't killed then you still die. There's steps to make it happen slower, but no steps to prevent it.

Mass murder doesn't happen a whole lot. There's nothing a civilian can do to prevent a serious, careful, and determined would-be perpetrator. You can't simply be nicer to them, or avoid them, or be careful around them. You can't mind your health or heed any warnings. Even the government has a hard time preventing such criminals. You can try to monitor purchases of sensitive material, such as ammunition, or bomb making materials, or certain guns. But there's no foolproof method and often someone slips through the cracks.

Mass murder by an immigrant is highly preventable, but only by the government. A civilian can't stop them at the border, but the government can. When you're not trying to keep track of 100 thousand immigrants, and instead only a fraction of that, you can better keep track of their behaviors and purchases, to ensure they aren't about to shoot 50 people, or indoctrinate a child to a terrorist cause. They may not be the leading cause of death, but they're a highly preventable and highly lethal cause of death. However not just one individual can look out for themselves on the matter.

You don't have to say no to them all, but if the alternative is to let everyone in, then that's a huge problem. When one of them kills someone and you just say "oh well, them's the breaks", you should be saying "Hey government, what's the deal? Straighten up." It's either your death, or someone you've condemned to death, someone from your very own land, for the sake of a society bent on destroying your own.


When you want to take in people from a war torn country, then you must realize what it means for your country to take them in. If you just half ass it haphazardly, that war torn country might not be so foreign anymore

ashfrliebert said:
But skittles analogies over social media isn't evaluation.

Pirating_Ninja said:
Guys, seriously . . .

Why has nobody stopped to ask why terrorists would apply for refugee status in the United States in the first place. Do you retards really think that is the easiest route? It is like saying "What would you do if you have a car, a license, and need to get to a grocery store .5 miles away"?

1) Petition the grocery store to build a helipad on top of their roof.
2) Save up $20,000+ for a helicopter.
3) Get a license to fly a helicopter.
4) Drive to the hangar where the helicopter is being stored.
5) Fly the helicopter to the grocery store.

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There are far, far, FAR, easier ways to get into the US than claiming refugee status. The fact that this is even a talking point is actually making my head hurt.

Thrashinuva said:

It's such a great thing that France hasn't been the subject of any terrorist attacks this year.

Pirating_Ninja said:
the US has 2-3 years of intense vetting through just about every major US intelligence agency, and includes other aspects like a 6 month course on educating refugees on our own culture.

Thrashinuva said:

Doesn't sound too bad. We probably won't have too many problems if we just stick to that.

Thrashinuva said:

And Trump Jr. isn't a candidate for office.

ashfrliebert said:

Did you skip every single response I made. The problem with the analogy is that humans feel, and die, and have family and needs/wants. Skittles just gives you diabetes.

Now there's tons of rebukes against that I'm sure (I don't care), but it's not "skittles" analogies. Analogies are dumb, you can say "we're picking out the bad ones from the good ones" and you get the point across much quicker. Trump did this with his presidential announcement, just mix it up a little.


Boom, works way easier.

Pirating_Ninja said:
Funny thing is, last time I saw Trump comment on "We need stricter vetting process", his ideal was less strict then what is currently in place . . .

Although still, again, beating a dead horse here but none of this matters. Terrorists are not going to apply for refugee status to get into the US, that is literally the most difficult way to come over and the #1 way to get caught.

However even in Europe this analogy would still need to be increased by a few magnitudes in order to be even remotely accurate. It is, by definition, "fear mongering" . . . The fact that so many people buy into this as "reasonable" despite so many problems with it logically is really what people mean when they say people are by and large "sheeple", gullible as @#$%.

Although don't get me wrong, I'm not overly thrilled about welcoming in refugees / economic migrants either too be perfectly honest. The people who cross the border illegally and toil away working in agriculture are one thing, they aren't "taking jobs" and are usually too removed from society to contribute to any type of crime (not that it doesn't happen). However, what we are talking about is, in large part, underqualified individuals who will most likely be weak in English severely limiting their job opportunities to minimum wage jobs placing them into the lower class. As it stands, with jobs being lost left and right to automation / outsourcing, and a government that doesn't really give two shits about the lower class, adding in a bunch to the lower class is only going to exponentially increase normal crimes due to a larger and larger percentage of the population being poor, unable to climb out due to an absolutely shit tier educational system, and thus turning to crime.

All this terrorist bull shit is just that, bull shit that politicians cook up to fear monger and distract the population from the real reason they can't do it since then the blame for said reason would fall onto them who are more than happy throwing their lot in with the people desperately seeking out cheap labor, rather than the people getting screwed over by it.

Sorakaa said:


so what about all the stories about refugees raping woman and doing other stuff? Even if they aren't literally blowing people up. They should stay in the shitholes they are from. end of story.

JunkYardHiro said:

You may not like the comparisons he drew based on your personal feelings, but he used an analogy correctly.
Too much sensitivity out there. Y'all knew what he meant.