Forum Settings
Forums

Japan's Weekly Light Novel Rankings for Sep 5 - 11

#1
Sep 14, 2016 2:35 PM
News Team
⚡ おはおー!

Offline
Joined: Apr 2010
Posts: 2800
Here are the weekly light novel rankings for September 5 - 11

Rank / This week's sales by copies / Cumulative sales / Titles

*1. 106,418 552,099 Kimi no Na wa. (Kadokawa Bunko)
*2. *52,802 *52,802 Mahouka Koukou no Rettousei Vol.20
*3. *19,874 *58,440 Kimi no Na wa. (Kadokawa Tsubasa Bunko)
*4. *17,282 *76,125 Kagerou Daze Vol.7
*5. *14,297 *83,712 Kotonoha no Niwa
*6. *12,832 *12,832 Hataraku Maou-sama! 0 Vol.2
*7. *12,304 110,514 No Game No Life Vol.9
*8. *11,977 *11,977 Shinsetsu Ookami to Koushinryou: Ookami to Youhishi
*9. *11,856 *69,783 Byousoku 5 Centimeter (Kadokawa Bunko)
10. *11,814 *11,814 Ookami to Koushinryou Vol.18

11. *10,055 253,801 Sword Art Online Vol.18
12. **9,107 **9,107 Heavy Object Vol.12
13. **7,496 **7,496 Koushaku Reijou no Tashinami Vol.3
14. **6,237 **6,237 Honzuki no Gekokujou: Shisho ni Naru Tame ni wa Shudan wo Erandeiraremasen Part 3 Vol.1
15. **5,197 *35,728 Okitegami Kyouko no Kakeibo
16. **5,067 **5,067 Saishoukan sareta Yuusha wa Ippanjin Toshite Ikiteiku?
17. **4,748 *33,246 Tensei shitara Slime Datta Ken Vol.8
18. **4,555 *46,975 Hidan no Aria Vol.23
19. **4,476 **8,639 Kuroko no Basket: Winter Cup Souhuuhen - Kage to Hikari
20. **4,286 176,502 Re:Zero kara Hajimeru Isekai Seikatsu Vol.1

21. **4,137 **4,137 Gekitotsu no Hexennacht Vol.3
22. **3,705 **3,705 Kaifuku Mahou wo Eta Doutei no Cherem Isekai Teniki
23. **3,512 *16,588 Daites-ryou Koubouki Vol.7
24. **3,161 **3,161 Machi wo Tsukuru Nouryoku!? Isekai ni Tsukurou Nippon Toshi
25. **2,794 *15,148 Sekaiichi Hatsukoi: Yokozawa Takafumi no Baai Vol.2
26. **2,667 105,692 Monogatari Series: Off Season Vol.4 "Nademonogatari"

Separated by Specific Ranking
Bunko
*1. 106,418 552,099 Kimi no Na wa. (Kadokawa Bunko)
*2. *52,802 *52,802 Mahouka Koukou no Rettousei Vol.20
*4. *17,282 *76,125 Kagerou Daze Vol.7
*7. *14,297 *83,712 Kotonoha no Niwa
*9. *12,832 *12,832 Hataraku Maou-sama! 0 Vol.2
10. *12,304 110,514 No Game No Life Vol.9
13. *11,977 *11,977 Shinsetsu Ookami to Koushinryou: Ookami to Youhishi
15. *11,856 *69,783 Byousoku 5 Centimeter (Kadokawa Bunko)
16. *11,814 *11,814 Ookami to Koushinryou Vol.18
23. *10,055 253,801 Sword Art Online Vol.18

28. **9,107 **9,107 Heavy Object Vol.12
46. **4,555 *46,975 Hidan no Aria Vol.23
50. **4,286 176,502 Re:Zero kara Hajimeru Isekai Seikatsu Vol.1
(cut-off 4,286)


Book
*4. *19,874 *58,440 Kimi no Na wa. (Kadokawa Tsubasa Bunko)
29. **7,496 **7,496 Koushaku Reijou no Tashinami Vol.3
35. **6,237 **6,237 Honzuki no Gekokujou: Shisho ni Naru Tame ni wa Shudan wo Erandeiraremasen Part 3 Vol.1
(cut-off 5,347)


Literature Books Genre (duplicates removed)
*8. **5,197 *35,728 Okitegami Kyouko no Kakeibo
*9. **5,067 **5,067 Saishoukan sareta Yuusha wa Ippanjin Toshite Ikiteiku?
10. **4,748 *33,246 Tensei shitara Slime Datta Ken Vol.8
11. **4,476 **8,639 Kuroko no Basket: Winter Cup Souhuuhen - Kage to Hikari
13. **3,705 **3,705 Kaifuku Mahou wo Eta Doutei no Cherem Isekai Teniki
14. **3,512 *16,588 Daites-ryou Koubouki Vol.7
15. **3,161 **3,161 Machi wo Tsukuru Nouryoku!? Isekai ni Tsukurou Nippon Toshi
18. **2,794 *15,148 Sekaiichi Hatsukoi: Yokozawa Takafumi no Baai Vol.2
19. **2,667 105,692 Monogatari Series: Off Season Vol.4 "Nademonogatari"
(cut-off 2,584)

Source: Oricon Youtaijou

← Previous Week

Submit News ∶∶ Guidelines ∶∶ BBcode Guide ∶∶ Jazz-hop ∶∶ Hip-hop ∶∶ Synth ∶∶ Shoegaze ∶∶ Source
 
#2
Sep 14, 2016 2:39 PM

Offline
Joined: Mar 2014
Posts: 18198
No survivors.
See you at the million.
 
 
#3
Sep 14, 2016 2:57 PM
Offline
Joined: Sep 2011
Posts: 122
Seriously Kimi no na wa is unstopable, i still need the BD version, can't watch masterpiece on 480p version T_T
 
#4
Sep 14, 2016 3:02 PM

Offline
Joined: Jun 2014
Posts: 4013
Kimi no Na wa. is literally unstoppable.
:3
 
#5
Sep 14, 2016 3:05 PM

Offline
Joined: Apr 2016
Posts: 508
What's the highest sold novel ever?Kimi no na wa might cross 1 million.
 
#6
Sep 14, 2016 3:08 PM

Offline
Joined: Apr 2016
Posts: 508
HOLYSHIT :O "GOW" and "5CMPS" suddenly rises to popularity from nowhere and even irregular at Magica high school doing good,I wonder how is that so popular in Japan.
Modified by R_TF, Sep 14, 2016 3:12 PM
 
#7
Sep 14, 2016 3:16 PM

Offline
Joined: Mar 2015
Posts: 473
Shinkai is sleeping in a bed made of money
 
 
#8
Sep 14, 2016 3:24 PM

Offline
Joined: Apr 2016
Posts: 508
@lezerman Hope that he won't have any budget problem from now on and can give us the best :D
 
#9
Sep 14, 2016 3:29 PM
Online
Joined: Jul 2015
Posts: 643
So this is the third week in which Kimi no na wa ranked #1 in three different format(Movie-OST-LN)

impressive
 
Sep 14, 2016 3:32 PM
News Team
Offline
Joined: Nov 2014
Posts: 7608
dat fucking rekt

even Oni-sama can't win against kimi no na wa his week !
 
 
Sep 14, 2016 3:33 PM

Offline
Joined: Apr 2013
Posts: 1352
Welp Kimi no nawa surpassed 500k, surely it must be breaking some record right?
Anyway i'm genuinely curious how the BD will do once it's out
 
Sep 14, 2016 3:36 PM

Offline
Joined: Jan 2014
Posts: 1382
Another week, another Kimi no na wa domination. It sold a little bit less than the last week tho, maybe hype is going down bit by bit. (in fact this is the first week after its release, that the sales decreased in weekly basis). It already outsold Mamoru's Summer wars, but this is not the end..

Once again it dominated in three different formats - CD, Novel, Cinema. If I remember correctly, this is probably the first time ever something managed to stay on the top in a three formats together for a three consecutive weeks.

I can totally see it selling over 1 million copies and getting into top 5 list of all time, just like I said last week.



RoyTF said:
What's the highest sold novel ever?Kimi no na wa might cross 1 million.

Top 20:
1. 2,323,668 moshi koukou yakyuu no joshi manager ga drucker no "management" wo yondara
2. 1,309,763 biblia koshodou no jiken techou 1
3. 1,160,334 toshokan sensou 1
4. 914,898 biblia koshodou no jiken techou 2
5. 792,816 biblia koshodou no jiken techou 3
6. 784,423 toshokan sensou 2
7. 682,895 toshokan sensou 3
8. 656,487 toshokan sensou 4
9. 654,786 kagerou daze 1
10. 633,832 biblia koshodou no jiken techou 4
11. 631,455 sword art online 1
12. 625,983 toshokan sensou 5
13. 569,888 toshokan sensou 6
14. 564,875 kagerou daze 2
15. 552,099 Kimi no Na wa
16. 546,627 biblia koshodou no jiken techou 5
17. 531,409 biblia koshodou no jiken techou 6
18. 529,000 summer wars
19. 512,539 sword art online 5
20. 504,954 sword art online 2

Source: http://forums.lndb.info/showthread.php?tid=26308
Modified by Yohimo_asakura, Sep 14, 2016 3:54 PM
 
Sep 14, 2016 3:49 PM
Offline
Joined: Nov 2015
Posts: 113
Nice job re zero volume 1
I think volume 9 will be on the market in a week or so
I want to see how much the new volume will sell
 
Sep 14, 2016 4:16 PM

Offline
Joined: Nov 2007
Posts: 9161
Those Na wa numbers are so damn tempting in every news thread out there but I refuse to watch in standard def.
Stay Home and Wash Your Hands.
Protect Yourself. Protect Your Loved Ones.
Protect Your Community and Help Defeat
Coronavirus.
 
Sep 14, 2016 4:20 PM

Offline
Joined: Dec 2015
Posts: 14824
I think its gonna stay on first place for a couple more weeks, haven't seen a light novel sell so much before.
"At some point, I stopped hoping."
 
Sep 14, 2016 4:51 PM

Offline
Joined: Sep 2012
Posts: 3948
Kimi no na wa had stock problems last week too. I'm actually surprised it sold that much. Could do better next week.
 
Sep 14, 2016 7:40 PM

Offline
Joined: Sep 2013
Posts: 22670
Another 100K+ for Kimi no na Wa :O
Overlord vol 11 will knock it off#1 in a couple of weeks :)

Slime selling good too.
 
 
Sep 14, 2016 9:49 PM

Offline
Joined: Jan 2015
Posts: 5405
DatRandomDude said:
dat fucking rekt

even Oni-sama can't win against kimi no na wa his week !
To be fair, Mahouka's volume came out the 10th, so that's just the 1st days worth of sales.
My Queens

 
Sep 14, 2016 10:25 PM
Offline
Joined: Jul 2018
Posts: 0
So nap to see your name again, I really hope it get license so that I can buy it. <3

Happy to see Sekaiichi Hatsukoi too :3
 
Sep 14, 2016 10:34 PM

Offline
Joined: Dec 2011
Posts: 8859
RoyTF said:
What's the highest sold novel ever?Kimi no na wa might cross 1 million.


If you're asking for the highest sold novel (the list given above includes only light novels, novels strongly related to anime and "not-quite-light-novels-but-may-as-well-be"s), Eien no 0 has the highest sales since Oricon started in 2008, followed (I think) by the last Harry Potter volume. Madogiwa no Totto-chan probably beats them both to hold the all-time record.
Modified by kuuderes_shadow, Sep 14, 2016 10:41 PM
Bestselling light novel volumes of the year/all time* (and more in the same club including weekly series ranks etc). <-- No longer being updated. Sorry.
*that there is data for

There is no such thing as shit taste. Only idiots who think everyone should have the same taste as they do.
 
Sep 14, 2016 10:36 PM
Offline
Joined: Sep 2013
Posts: 1346
Yohimo_asakura said:




RoyTF said:
What's the highest sold novel ever?Kimi no na wa might cross 1 million.

Top 20:
1. 2,323,668 moshi koukou yakyuu no joshi manager ga drucker no "management" wo yondara
2. 1,309,763 biblia koshodou no jiken techou 1
3. 1,160,334 toshokan sensou 1
4. 914,898 biblia koshodou no jiken techou 2
5. 792,816 biblia koshodou no jiken techou 3
6. 784,423 toshokan sensou 2
7. 682,895 toshokan sensou 3
8. 656,487 toshokan sensou 4
9. 654,786 kagerou daze 1
10. 633,832 biblia koshodou no jiken techou 4
11. 631,455 sword art online 1
12. 625,983 toshokan sensou 5
13. 569,888 toshokan sensou 6
14. 564,875 kagerou daze 2
15. 552,099 Kimi no Na wa
16. 546,627 biblia koshodou no jiken techou 5
17. 531,409 biblia koshodou no jiken techou 6
18. 529,000 summer wars
19. 512,539 sword art online 5
20. 504,954 sword art online 2

Source: http://forums.lndb.info/showthread.php?tid=26308


To avoid misunderstanding this is LN ranking.
There are numerous million seller if you include normal novel(tankou bon+bunko bon)

There are most likely more than hundreds if not a thousand titles that are million seller(million seller meaning circulation number traditionally so not exactly same as oricon sales) in Japan
Modified by umashikaneko, Sep 14, 2016 11:05 PM
 
Sep 14, 2016 10:40 PM

Offline
Joined: Dec 2011
Posts: 8859
Series rankings from Oricon Website:
*1. Shousetsu Kimi no Na wa.
*2. Mahouka Koukou no Rettousei
*3. Re: Zero Kara Hajimeru Isekai Seikatsu
*4. Sword Art Online
*5. Kagerou Daze
*6. No Game No Life
*7. Kotonoha no Niwa Novelisation
*8. Hataraku Maou-sama! Tokubetsu-hen
*9. Shinsetsu Ookami to Koushinryou
10. Byousoku 5 Centimetre Novelisation
11. Ookami to Koushinryou
12. Tensei Shitara Slime Datta Ken
13. Heavy Object
14. Overlord
15. Kono Subarashii Sekai ni Shukufuku wo!
16. Boukyaku Tantei Series
17. Saishoukan sareta Yuusha wa Ippanjin Toshite Ikiteiku?
18. Hidan no Aria
19. Hai to Gensou no Grimgar
20. Kuroko no Basuke: Winter Cup Souhuuhen - Kage to Hikari Novelisation

(source: Oricon website)
Bestselling light novel volumes of the year/all time* (and more in the same club including weekly series ranks etc). <-- No longer being updated. Sorry.
*that there is data for

There is no such thing as shit taste. Only idiots who think everyone should have the same taste as they do.
 
 
Sep 15, 2016 12:04 AM

Offline
Joined: Apr 2013
Posts: 6833
Technically biblia for example is not a light novel though, so the list is a bit of a hybrid ^^".

Kimi no na wa really has an interesting behaviour in sales x)
-------------------

I only care about


*8. *11,977 *11,977 Shinsetsu Ookami to Koushinryou: Ookami to Youhishi
10. *11,814 *11,814 Ookami to Koushinryou Vol.18

14. **6,237 **6,237 Honzuki no Gekokujou: Shisho ni Naru Tame ni wa Shudan wo Erandeiraremasen Part 3 Vol.1

21. **4,137 **4,137 Gekitotsu no Hexennacht Vol.3


among the new titles of this week. Doing not too bad, I guess.
 
Sep 15, 2016 4:22 AM

Offline
Joined: Sep 2013
Posts: 146
kuuderes_shadow said:
RoyTF said:
What's the highest sold novel ever?Kimi no na wa might cross 1 million.


If you're asking for the highest sold novel (the list given above includes only light novels, novels strongly related to anime and "not-quite-light-novels-but-may-as-well-be"s), Eien no 0 has the highest sales since Oricon started in 2008, followed (I think) by the last Harry Potter volume. Madogiwa no Totto-chan probably beats them both to hold the all-time record.

I think I was googling this maybe a year ago and got to a statement from Amazon that haruhi is the #1 spot for them alltime I think? (read: amazon-only, LN sales which probably is what he was asking for considering where we are here)

Found it:
What You Need to Know:

To celebrate the 15th anniversary of the site's opening, Amazon Japan revealed the top-selling products of each department, including the light novels featuring a comment from the top-selling author.

1. The Astonishment of Haruhi Suzumiya (First Part)
2. Kizumonogatari
3. Bakemonogatari Volume 2


source: https://www.amazon.co.jp/b?node=3974912051
Modified by Toadesstern, Sep 15, 2016 4:32 AM
 
Sep 15, 2016 4:57 AM

Offline
Joined: Sep 2009
Posts: 2353
Oh. So "Spring Log" and the new novel(s)_ about Myuri are separate entries?

To bad otakus are still angry on Hasekura, so we won't see 100+ sales from his works anymore.
 
 
Sep 15, 2016 6:32 AM

Offline
Joined: Oct 2012
Posts: 1028
Snow said:
Here are the weekly light novel rankings for September 5 - 11

Rank / This week's sales by copies / Cumulative sales / Titles

*1. 106,418 552,099 Kimi no Na wa. (Kadokawa Bunko)
*2. *52,802 *52,802 Mahouka Koukou no Rettousei Vol.20

(cut-off 2,584)

Source: Oricon Youtaijou

← Previous Week


Wow...Mahouka would have ranked 1st if not for Kimi no Na wa.

Sasuga Onii-sama.
「友達なんていない。人はすぐに裏切るし、学校っていうのは誰かを標的にしないとやってられない馬鹿共の集 まり。ままごとみたいな役決めて、仲のいいふりして都合が悪くなったら知らんぷり。そんな奴らと仲良くした いとか全然思わない。」
 
Sep 15, 2016 6:59 AM

Offline
Joined: Aug 2015
Posts: 2465
Still waiting for S2 of The devil is a part timer.
 
Sep 15, 2016 7:54 AM

Offline
Joined: Sep 2011
Posts: 3935
WHAT is so good about this Bibilia thing? It's sold so much but still no Anime adaptation!
"Justice Never Dies!" - Kenji Endou, 20th century Boys
 
Sep 15, 2016 8:02 AM

Offline
Joined: Dec 2011
Posts: 8859
Toadesstern said:
kuuderes_shadow said:


If you're asking for the highest sold novel (the list given above includes only light novels, novels strongly related to anime and "not-quite-light-novels-but-may-as-well-be"s), Eien no 0 has the highest sales since Oricon started in 2008, followed (I think) by the last Harry Potter volume. Madogiwa no Totto-chan probably beats them both to hold the all-time record.

I think I was googling this maybe a year ago and got to a statement from Amazon that haruhi is the #1 spot for them alltime I think? (read: amazon-only, LN sales which probably is what he was asking for considering where we are here)

Found it:
What You Need to Know:

To celebrate the 15th anniversary of the site's opening, Amazon Japan revealed the top-selling products of each department, including the light novels featuring a comment from the top-selling author.

1. The Astonishment of Haruhi Suzumiya (First Part)
2. Kizumonogatari
3. Bakemonogatari Volume 2


source: https://www.amazon.co.jp/b?node=3974912051


That's just one retailer, though. Oh, and that's the LE of Haruhi which had both halves together, and the Bakemonogatari is the first volume, not the second. Incidentally, Kizumonogatari is one of those volumes that Oricons figure is obviously way too low for, on account of the fact that none of the anime of the series (including of Kizu itself) have gotten it back in the rankings.
Plus it's not really relevant to my post at all - especially as you can see Eien no 0 at the top of the bungaku rankings.
Bestselling light novel volumes of the year/all time* (and more in the same club including weekly series ranks etc). <-- No longer being updated. Sorry.
*that there is data for

There is no such thing as shit taste. Only idiots who think everyone should have the same taste as they do.
 
Sep 15, 2016 8:07 AM

Offline
Joined: Dec 2011
Posts: 8859
GodlyKyon said:
WHAT is so good about this Bibilia thing? It's sold so much but still no Anime adaptation!


It had a live action adaptation. No need for an anime.

-Mahesvara said:
DatRandomDude said:
dat fucking rekt

even Oni-sama can't win against kimi no na wa his week !
To be fair, Mahouka's volume came out the 10th, so that's just the 1st days worth of sales.


To be pedantic, coming out on the 10th is 2 days of sales. There are very few light novel labels that will release on a Sunday (or a Monday for that matter) and Dengeki Bunko is not one of them.
Modified by kuuderes_shadow, Sep 15, 2016 1:05 PM
Bestselling light novel volumes of the year/all time* (and more in the same club including weekly series ranks etc). <-- No longer being updated. Sorry.
*that there is data for

There is no such thing as shit taste. Only idiots who think everyone should have the same taste as they do.
 
Sep 15, 2016 11:35 AM

Offline
Joined: Jan 2014
Posts: 1382
From the context, I thought he's asking for a list of novels related to anime, not novel genre in general.

kuuderes_shadow said:
RoyTF said:
What's the highest sold novel ever?Kimi no na wa might cross 1 million.


If you're asking for the highest sold novel (the list given above includes only light novels, novels strongly related to anime and "not-quite-light-novels-but-may-as-well-be"s), Eien no 0 has the highest sales since Oricon started in 2008, followed (I think) by the last Harry Potter volume. Madogiwa no Totto-chan probably beats them both to hold the all-time record.


Do you have any idea how many units Eien no 0 sold? It would be interesting to compare it to anime-related material...
 
Sep 15, 2016 12:28 PM

Offline
Joined: Dec 2011
Posts: 8859
Yohimo_asakura said:
From the context, I thought he's asking for a list of novels related to anime, not novel genre in general.

kuuderes_shadow said:


If you're asking for the highest sold novel (the list given above includes only light novels, novels strongly related to anime and "not-quite-light-novels-but-may-as-well-be"s), Eien no 0 has the highest sales since Oricon started in 2008, followed (I think) by the last Harry Potter volume. Madogiwa no Totto-chan probably beats them both to hold the all-time record.


Do you have any idea how many units Eien no 0 sold? It would be interesting to compare it to anime-related material...


Came out in July 2009
Sold 547,000 in 2010
Sold 269,814 in 2011
Sold 222,103 in 2012
Sold 1,880,401 in 2013
had sold 3,765,000 by 23rd Jan 2014
Sold 1,463,702 in 2014

That gives a highest known total of 4,383,020, which is excluding its first 4 months on sale (which was probably around 200k looking at those figures), and it's probably sold a 6 digit figure in the almost 2 years since as well.

It's the only volume to have made it into the year end bunko rankings more than 3 times, and if I'm right about the first 4 months it would mean that it narrowly missed out on making it 6 times in a row.
Modified by kuuderes_shadow, Sep 15, 2016 12:35 PM
Bestselling light novel volumes of the year/all time* (and more in the same club including weekly series ranks etc). <-- No longer being updated. Sorry.
*that there is data for

There is no such thing as shit taste. Only idiots who think everyone should have the same taste as they do.
 
 
Sep 16, 2016 8:49 AM

Offline
Joined: Dec 2011
Posts: 8859
POS ranks for series with ongoing anime versions:

Re:Zero:
*49位 Re:ゼロから始める異世界生活1
*62位 Re:ゼロから始める異世界生活2
*88位 Re:ゼロから始める異世界生活3
114位 Re:ゼロから始める異世界生活4
137位 Re:ゼロから始める異世界生活5
162位 Re:ゼロから始める異世界生活 短編集1
156位 Re:ゼロから始める異世界生活6
215位 Re:ゼロから始める異世界生活Ex 獅子王の見た夢
163位 Re:ゼロから始める異世界生活7
253位 Re:ゼロから始める異世界生活Ex2 剣鬼恋歌
115位 Re:ゼロから始める異世界生活8
232位 Re:ゼロから始める異世界生活 短編集2

Qualidea Code:
189位 クオリディア・コード
274位 どうでもいい世界なんて ―クオリディア・コード―

Masou Gakuen HxH:
160位 魔装学園H×H9 (NEW last week)

Leftover from previous seasons:
Winter 2016:
KonoSuba:
277位 この素晴らしい世界に祝福を! あぁ、駄女神さま
326位 この素晴らしい世界に祝福を!2 中二病でも魔女がしたい!
361位 この素晴らしい世界に祝福を!3 よんでますよ、ダクネスさん。
322位 この素晴らしい世界に祝福を!4 鈍ら四重奏 ~ナマクラカルテット~
344位 この素晴らしい世界に祝福を!5 爆裂紅魔にレッツ&ゴー!!
438位 この素晴らしい世界に祝福を!6 六花の王女
400位 この素晴らしい世界に祝福を!7 億千万の花嫁
420位 この素晴らしい世界に祝福を!8 アクシズ教団VSエリス教団
350位 この素晴らしい世界に祝福を!9 紅の宿命

(source: POS via book-rank.net)
Bestselling light novel volumes of the year/all time* (and more in the same club including weekly series ranks etc). <-- No longer being updated. Sorry.
*that there is data for

There is no such thing as shit taste. Only idiots who think everyone should have the same taste as they do.
 
Sep 16, 2016 6:11 PM

Offline
Joined: Sep 2013
Posts: 146
kuuderes_shadow said:
Toadesstern said:

I think I was googling this maybe a year ago and got to a statement from Amazon that haruhi is the #1 spot for them alltime I think? (read: amazon-only, LN sales which probably is what he was asking for considering where we are here)

Found it:


source: https://www.amazon.co.jp/b?node=3974912051


That's just one retailer, though. Oh, and that's the LE of Haruhi which had both halves together, and the Bakemonogatari is the first volume, not the second. Incidentally, Kizumonogatari is one of those volumes that Oricons figure is obviously way too low for, on account of the fact that none of the anime of the series (including of Kizu itself) have gotten it back in the rankings.
Plus it's not really relevant to my post at all - especially as you can see Eien no 0 at the top of the bungaku rankings.

it wasn't just about you, I just quoted you since you looked like the person who knows the best about this :P
Yeah no idea how I screwed up that Bakemonogatari, obviously #1 and not #2 and yes like I said it's just amazon itself.

But since the other list someone else posted above does only include the more recent stuff I was wondering how that comes into things. I don't think amazon has a significantly different base of people buying then elsewhere so I'd assume it should be the same across the board but ultimately no clue.

Anways, just wanted to point out that there are big sellers that aren't represented in the "usual" rankings just because the rankings don't go back far enough but probably would outrank them if data was available. I mean Haruhi has got to have sold like crazy no matter the retailer, right?
Modified by Toadesstern, Sep 16, 2016 6:14 PM
 
Sep 17, 2016 12:38 AM

Offline
Joined: Dec 2011
Posts: 8859
Toadesstern said:

it wasn't just about you, I just quoted you since you looked like the person who knows the best about this :P
Yeah no idea how I screwed up that Bakemonogatari, obviously #1 and not #2 and yes like I said it's just amazon itself.

But since the other list someone else posted above does only include the more recent stuff I was wondering how that comes into things. I don't think amazon has a significantly different base of people buying then elsewhere so I'd assume it should be the same across the board but ultimately no clue.

Anways, just wanted to point out that there are big sellers that aren't represented in the "usual" rankings just because the rankings don't go back far enough but probably would outrank them if data was available. I mean Haruhi has got to have sold like crazy no matter the retailer, right?


Amazon wasn't particularly big for long before the Oricon data starts. The fact that the last volume of Haruhi (the one that never got an anime boost and would have inevitably sold less than the earlier ones) is the one that shows up should be an indication of that.

The volume of Haruhi in question, incidentally, did sell well - it's 25th on the list that was part-listed above.

Kizumonogatari's heavy underrepresentation on the Oricon data isn't so much because of the start of data - indeed, it came out after Oricon started reporting rankings (it sold 16822 in its release week). It's more due to the fact that none of the anime adaptations (nor releases of later volumes) gave it enough of a boost for it to rerank. This may be partly down to extra rankings having become available over the years, but only partly. Perhaps more so in this case as the Literature Books Genre rankings, which the monogatari series - unlike most light novels - tend to have by far the lowest thresholds, making the later volumes be overrepresented relatively.

As for different fandoms buying things in different places - you'd be very surprised. For instance, Tsutaya has No Game No Life as 4th bestselling bunko for w/c 5th September, whereas Osakaya has it as 16th for w/c 3rd September - which should give it better sales than w/c 5th September does. This sort of variation is normal, and Amazon is not immune to it - although the massive difference in Amazon's ranking formula compared to everyone else's means that direct comparisons are difficult to make. However, I did try using rankings of new releases on Amazon to predict sales for a while, but found it absolutely hopeless, even though I believe Amazon's sales are included in Oricon. You can see an example here if you compare the order on that list (Amazon's order of new light novel releases in the week in question) to Oricon's rankings the following week. For example, Ryuu no Aisai, Dr. no Akuun was 4th top new light novel on the Amazon list but failed to make the 4749 cutoff, whereas Noushou Sakuretsu Girl was the 42nd highest new light novel release on Amazon for that week, came out on the same day, and yet managed to sell over 7.5k.
Modified by kuuderes_shadow, Sep 17, 2016 12:44 AM
Bestselling light novel volumes of the year/all time* (and more in the same club including weekly series ranks etc). <-- No longer being updated. Sorry.
*that there is data for

There is no such thing as shit taste. Only idiots who think everyone should have the same taste as they do.