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Here are the weekly light novel rankings for August 29 - September 4

Rank / This week's sales by copies / Cumulative sales / Titles

*1. 111,598 445,681 Kimi no Na wa. (Kadokawa Bunko)
*2. *46,858 *58,843 Kagerou Daze Vol.7
*3. *27,608 *98,210 No Game No Life Vol.9
*4. *25,332 *28,498 Tensei shitara Slime Datta Ken Vol.8
*5. *17,953 *38,566 Kimi no Na wa. (Kadokawa Tsubasa Bunko)
*6. *16,189 243,746 Sword Art Online Vol.18
*7. *13,720 *69,415 Kotonoha no Niwa
*8. *13,076 *13,076 Daites-ryou Koubouki Vol.7
*9. *12,354 *12,354 Sekaiichi Hatsukoi: Yokozawa Takafumi no Baai Vol.2
10. *12,029 *57,927 Byousoku 5 Centimeter (Kadokawa Bunko)

11. *10,196 *28,605 Kimi no Na wa. Another Side: Earthbound
12. **9,953 *42,420 Hidan no Aria Vol.23
13. **9,703 *30,531 Okitegami Kyouko no Kakeibo
14. **8,574 **8,574 Seirei Gensouki Vol.5
15. **7,647 **8,080 Shinka no Mi: Shiranai Uchi ni Kachigumi Jinsei Vol.5
16. **6,846 **6,846 7th Vol.3
17. **6,649 **7,014 Cheat Majutsu de Unmei wo Nejifuseru Vol.3
18. **6,541 **6,541 Takumi-kun Series Kanzenban Vol.7
19. **6,323 *54,619 Bannou Kanteishi Q: Munch no Sakebi
20. **6,254 **6,254 Masou Gakuen HxH Vol.9

21. **6,118 *29,816 Madan no Ou to Vanadis Vol.15
22. **5,797 **5,797 LV999 no Murabito Vol.2
23. **5,776 *23,991 Gakusen Toshi Asterisk Vol.11
24. **5,730 *25,905 Hai to Gensou no Grimgar Vol.9 
25. **5,278 **5,278 Tsukigami no Mederu Hana: Kyouko ni Utsuru Souei
26. **4,985 **4,985 Furaretemo, Suki na Hito.
27. **4,694 **5,711 Seija Musou: Salaryman, Isekai de Ikinokoru Tame ni Ayumu Michi Vol.1
28. **4,163 **4,163 Kuroko no Basket: Winter Cup Souhuuhen - Kage to Hikari
29. **3,721 **3,721 Mahoutsukai no Konyakusha Vol.3
30. **3,494 103,025 Monogatari Series: Off Season Vol.4 "Nademonogatari"
31. **3,345 *23,626 Hachi-nan tte, Sore wa Nai desho! Vol.9

Separated by Specific Ranking
Bunko
*1. 111,598 445,681 Kimi no Na wa. (Kadokawa Bunko)
*2. *46,858 *58,843 Kagerou Daze Vol.7
*4. *27,608 *98,210 No Game No Life Vol.9
*7. *16,189 243,746 Sword Art Online Vol.18
11. *13,720 *69,415 Kotonoha no Niwa
14. *12,029 *57,927 Byousoku 5 Centimeter (Kadokawa Bunko)
18. *10,196 *28,605 Kimi no Na wa. Another Side: Earthbound
19. **9,953 *42,420 Hidan no Aria Vol.23
25. **8,574 **8,574 Seirei Gensouki Vol.5
34. **7,647 **8,080 Shinka no Mi: Shiranai Uchi ni Kachigumi Jinsei Vol.5

36. **6,846 **6,846 7th Vol.3
37. **6,649 **7,014 Cheat Majutsu de Unmei wo Nejifuseru Vol.3
39. **6,541 **6,541 Takumi-kun Series Kanzenban Vol.7
40. **6,323 *54,619 Bannou Kanteishi Q: Munch no Sakebi
41. **6,254 **6,254 Masou Gakuen HxH Vol.9
42. **6,118 *29,816 Madan no Ou to Vanadis Vol.15
46. **5,776 *23,991 Gakusen Toshi Asterisk Vol.11
47. **5,730 *25,905 Hai to Gensou no Grimgar Vol.9
50. **4,985 **4,985 Soredemo, Suki na Hito.
(cut-off 4,985)


Book
*4. *25,332 *28,498 Tensei shitara Slime Datta Ken Vol.8
*7. *17,953 *38,566 Kimi no Na wa. (Kadokawa Tsubasa Bunko)
11. *13,076 *13,076 Daites-ryou Koubouki Vol.7
13. *12,354 *12,354 Sekaiichi Hatsukoi: Yokozawa Takafumi no Baai Vol.2
21. **9,703 *30,531 Okitegami Kyouko no Kakeibo
25. **8,493 **9,808 Tensei shitara Slime Datta Ken Vol.8.5 "Offcial Setting Materials"
(cut-off 5,857)


Literature Books Genre (duplicates removed)
11. **5,797 **5,797 LV999 no Murabito Vol.2
12. **5,278 **5,278 Tsukigami no Mederu Hana: Kyouko ni Utsuru Souei
13. **4,694 **5,711 Seija Musou: Salaryman, Isekai de Ikinokoru Tame ni Ayumu Michi Vol.1
14. **4,163 **4,163 Kuroko no Basket: Winter Cup Souhuuhen - Kage to Hikari
15. **3,721 **3,721 Mahoutsukai no Konyakusha Vol.3
16. **3,494 103,025 Monogatari Series: Off Season Vol.4 "Nademonogatari"
17. **3,345 *23,626 Hachi-nan tte, Sore wa Nai desho! Vol.9
(cut-off 2,931)

Source: Oricon Youtaijou

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Kimi no na wa rekt... lol, it already outsold Bakemono no ko. If it keeps like this, it will outsell Wolf's children and Summer wars next week. Damn, this is insane.
I feel, like eventually we might witness 1 million copies milestone. Long ways off, but I think it might be possible, if the movie keeps doing well as it is predicted to stay at the top spot till November.

What makes it even cooler is that it boosts Shinkai older novels to incredible heights.
 
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How do we stop this "Shinkai"?
 
 
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HxH :'(

NGNL about to pass 100K but Kimi no Na wa is on fire :O
 
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Shinkaaaaaaaai.
 
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I'm just worried how Wataru Watari will handle OreGairu this year. :(
 
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Kimi no Na Wa isn't slowing down this week, still going strong.
"At some point, I stopped hoping."
 
 
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*9. *12,354 *12,354 Sekaiichi Hatsukoi: Yokozawa Takafumi no Baai Vol.2

Cool! second time with SH inside Novel rankings! Did it in just few weeks ago ;)
 
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Nice we need more of Shinkai-esque storytelling in anime, this will incentivise other creators to follow suit.
 
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So happy to see 3 BL novel in one week again xD



@sakana-San 24 should be no 26, pleas fix it.
 
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I've rarely seen series cross the 400k mark.
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@Yaoi-Senpai I've fixed it. Thank you!
 
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Kimi no Na wa Is going strong every week and this is actually surprising imo.
 
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Now I'm really curious to see what the hype is with Kimi no Na wa.

Tensei shitara Slime Datta Ken anime adaptation when?
 
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As expected Index Vol 16 won't reach the 100k mark again.. much less 90k....
Can somebody tell me how much was sold last week ?
seeing that it did not make the top 30 suggests that it was very low...
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Series rankings from Oricon website:

*1. Shousetsu Kimi no Na wa.
*2. Kagerou Daze
*3. No Game No Life
*4. Tensei Shitara Slime Datta Ken
*5. Sword Art Online
*6. Re:Zero kara Hajimeru Isekai Seikatsu
*7. Kotonoha no Niwa Novelisation
*8. Daites-ryou Koubouki
*9. Byousoku 5 Centimetre
10. Boukyaku Tantei Series
11. Hidan no Aria
12. Kimi no Na wa. ANOTHER SIDE: EARTHBOUND
13. Seirei Gensouki
14. Kono Subarashii Sekai ni Shukufuku wo!
15. Overlord
16. Masou Gakuen HxH
17. Hai to Gensou no Grimgar
18. Shinka no Mi
19. Cheat Majutsu de Unmei wo Nejifuseru
20. 7th

(source: Oricon website)

POS ranks for series with ongoing anime versions:

Re:Zero:
*56位 Re:ゼロから始める異世界生活1
*76位 Re:ゼロから始める異世界生活2
113位 Re:ゼロから始める異世界生活3
140位 Re:ゼロから始める異世界生活4
165位 Re:ゼロから始める異世界生活5
223位 Re:ゼロから始める異世界生活 短編集1
173位 Re:ゼロから始める異世界生活6
337位 Re:ゼロから始める異世界生活Ex 獅子王の見た夢
163位 Re:ゼロから始める異世界生活7
315位 Re:ゼロから始める異世界生活Ex2 剣鬼恋歌
119位 Re:ゼロから始める異世界生活8
301位 Re:ゼロから始める異世界生活 短編集2

Qualidea Code:
106位 クオリディア・コード (NEW last week)
210位 どうでもいい世界なんて ―クオリディア・コード―

Masou Gakuen HxH:
*54位 魔装学園H×H9 (NEW)

Leftover from previous seasons:
Winter 2016:
KonoSuba:
278位 この素晴らしい世界に祝福を! あぁ、駄女神さま
331位 この素晴らしい世界に祝福を!2 中二病でも魔女がしたい!
319位 この素晴らしい世界に祝福を!3 よんでますよ、ダクネスさん。
318位 この素晴らしい世界に祝福を!4 鈍ら四重奏 ~ナマクラカルテット~
492位 この素晴らしい世界に祝福を!スピンオフ この素晴らしい世界に爆焔を! めぐみんのターン
320位 この素晴らしい世界に祝福を!5 爆裂紅魔にレッツ&ゴー!!
395位 この素晴らしい世界に祝福を!6 六花の王女
392位 この素晴らしい世界に祝福を!7 億千万の花嫁
371位 この素晴らしい世界に祝福を!8 アクシズ教団VSエリス教団
243位 この素晴らしい世界に祝福を!9 紅の宿命

(source: POS via book-rank.net)
Bestselling light novel volumes of the year/all time* (and more in the same club including weekly series ranks etc). <-- No longer being updated. Sorry.
*that there is data for

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Yohimo_asakura said:

What makes it even cooler is that it boosts Shinkai older novels to incredible heights.


They're not that much older - both the volumes that are reranking came out only earlier this year (to very little fanfare). But yeah, strange that we could be looking at a new top film tie-in novel as early as next week. I had thought it might get there once it started to do well, but only from showing back up on the rankings occasionally during the long tail.

LoveComedyWa said:
I'm just worried how Wataru Watari will handle OreGairu this year. :(


It's looking increasingly likely that the answer to that will be "he won't". Only November and December's releases left, meaning that for the purpose of the year end rankings and KonoRano we can say already that there is no OreGairu release this year.

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*9. *12,354 *12,354 Sekaiichi Hatsukoi: Yokozawa Takafumi no Baai Vol.2

Cool! second time with SH inside Novel rankings! Did it in just few weeks ago ;)


Rather more than the second. I think these are rereleases?

CG-Silver said:
I've rarely seen series cross the 400k mark.


There are now 28 volumes that have reached that point on the Oricon rankings. The last volume to do cross it while on the rankings was Biblia Koshodou no Jiken Techou vol 6 in January 2015, although Toshokan Sensou 6 reranked later that year at well above the 400k mark when previously it had been below that. As both of these technically aren't light novels you could argue that Sword Art Online 7 was the last in December 2014, but THAT only got there thanks to a problem with the volume rankings on the oricon website.
Kagerou Daze 4 got there from the 2014 year end rankings, but because it had come out the previous year it never actually visibly crossed the 400k mark. Kagerou Daze 3 also crossed the 400k mark a week before it reranked, and vols 1 and 2 also did whilst off the rankings.

Which means that if you want the last time something that is unquestionably a light novel crossed the 400k threshold in a week in which it appeared on the weekly rankings, you're looking back to w/c 12th November 2012, when Sword Art Online 4 got there.

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As expected Index Vol 16 won't reach the 100k mark again.. much less 90k....
Can somebody tell me how much was sold last week ?
seeing that it did not make the top 30 suggests that it was very low...


That question can't be answered, I'm afraid, other than by saying it was less than 4985. It was 71st on the POS weekly bunko rankings, though.
Bestselling light novel volumes of the year/all time* (and more in the same club including weekly series ranks etc). <-- No longer being updated. Sorry.
*that there is data for

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Incidentally, this got posted on refugee-chan:

217,197部 14/03/27 **11日 カゲロウデイズ V -the deceiving-  *早売り1.5日
126,837部 15/03/27 **10日 カゲロウデイズ Ⅵ -over the dimension-  *早売り2.5日
*58,843部 16/08/27 ***9日 カゲロウデイズ Ⅶ -from the darkness-  *早売り1.5日


Kagerou Daze sales drop volumes 5 -> 6 -> 7. Ouch.
Bestselling light novel volumes of the year/all time* (and more in the same club including weekly series ranks etc). <-- No longer being updated. Sorry.
*that there is data for

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Kimi no Na wa having stock issues now. Softcover out of stock until September 14 at Amazon, hardcover out until 21st, Another Side 24th. New stock could come in sooner and there are many other bookstores which may still have some stock of course but the next few weeks of sales could temporarily drop due to these stock issues.
 
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Paulo27 said:
How do we stop this "Shinkai"?


We don't.

Who would of imagine this to do so well.
 
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Series rankings from Oricon website:

*1. Shousetsu Kimi no Na wa.
*2. Kagerou Daze
*3. No Game No Life
*4. Tensei Shitara Slime Datta Ken
*5. Sword Art Online
*6. Re:Zero kara Hajimeru Isekai Seikatsu
*7. Kotonoha no Niwa Novelisation
*8. Daites-ryou Koubouki
*9. Byousoku 5 Centimetre
10. Boukyaku Tantei Series
11. Hidan no Aria
12. Kimi no Na wa. ANOTHER SIDE: EARTHBOUND
13. Seirei Gensouki
14. Kono Subarashii Sekai ni Shukufuku wo!
15. Overlord
16. Masou Gakuen HxH
17. Hai to Gensou no Grimgar
18. Shinka no Mi
19. Cheat Majutsu de Unmei wo Nejifuseru
20. 7th

(source: Oricon website)

POS ranks for series with ongoing anime versions:

Re:Zero:
*56位 Re:ゼロから始める異世界生活1
*76位 Re:ゼロから始める異世界生活2
113位 Re:ゼロから始める異世界生活3
140位 Re:ゼロから始める異世界生活4
165位 Re:ゼロから始める異世界生活5
223位 Re:ゼロから始める異世界生活 短編集1
173位 Re:ゼロから始める異世界生活6
337位 Re:ゼロから始める異世界生活Ex 獅子王の見た夢
163位 Re:ゼロから始める異世界生活7
315位 Re:ゼロから始める異世界生活Ex2 剣鬼恋歌
119位 Re:ゼロから始める異世界生活8
301位 Re:ゼロから始める異世界生活 短編集2

Qualidea Code:
106位 クオリディア・コード (NEW last week)
210位 どうでもいい世界なんて ―クオリディア・コード―

Masou Gakuen HxH:
*54位 魔装学園H×H9 (NEW)

Leftover from previous seasons:
Winter 2016:
KonoSuba:
278位 この素晴らしい世界に祝福を! あぁ、駄女神さま
331位 この素晴らしい世界に祝福を!2 中二病でも魔女がしたい!
319位 この素晴らしい世界に祝福を!3 よんでますよ、ダクネスさん。
318位 この素晴らしい世界に祝福を!4 鈍ら四重奏 ~ナマクラカルテット~
492位 この素晴らしい世界に祝福を!スピンオフ この素晴らしい世界に爆焔を! めぐみんのターン
320位 この素晴らしい世界に祝福を!5 爆裂紅魔にレッツ&ゴー!!
395位 この素晴らしい世界に祝福を!6 六花の王女
392位 この素晴らしい世界に祝福を!7 億千万の花嫁
371位 この素晴らしい世界に祝福を!8 アクシズ教団VSエリス教団
243位 この素晴らしい世界に祝福を!9 紅の宿命

(source: POS via book-rank.net)
Why didn't ReZero rank when HxH did? Only 2 places below.
 
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Kin088 said:
As expected Index Vol 16 won't reach the 100k mark again.. much less 90k....
Can somebody tell me how much was sold last week ?
seeing that it did not make the top 30 suggests that it was very low...


That question can't be answered, I'm afraid, other than by saying it was less than 4985. It was 71st on the POS weekly bunko rankings, though.


ok...thanks anyway..... so 4984 at max would put the total sales around a little less tan 80k... now its kind of obvious that it won't reach the 100k mark... 90k would also be very hard at this point..
 
 
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Why didn't ReZero rank when HxH did? Only 2 places below.


Different rankings.
Light novels generally do slighly better on Oricon than POS, and older releases generally do worse.

@Sakana-san - "Soredemo, Suki na Hito." should be "Furaretemo, Suki na Hito."
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Kin088 said:
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That question can't be answered, I'm afraid, other than by saying it was less than 4985. It was 71st on the POS weekly bunko rankings, though.


ok...thanks anyway..... so 4984 at max would put the total sales around a little less tan 80k... now its kind of obvious that it won't reach the 100k mark... 90k would also be very hard at this point..


Now would be good time for a new anime to boost the sales.
 
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Kin088 said:


ok...thanks anyway..... so 4984 at max would put the total sales around a little less tan 80k... now its kind of obvious that it won't reach the 100k mark... 90k would also be very hard at this point..


Now would be good time for a new anime to boost the sales.


They had a chance to make a new season, but they chose to adapt Heavy Object instead, which was, in my view, a major flop ...
So I don't think we will see a new season of Index soon, with its popularity and LN sales dropping these last few volumes...
 
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Kin088 said:
ichii_1 said:


Now would be good time for a new anime to boost the sales.


They had a chance to make a new season, but they chose to adapt Heavy Object instead, which was, in my view, a major flop ...
So I don't think we will see a new season of Index soon, with its popularity and LN sales dropping these last few volumes...
That's the choice they have to make every time. Make a sequel or make a new series? With 2 seasons of Index already out there they likely figured a third season wouldn't do much if anything to boost readership. Might as well take a chance on a new series, Heavy Object, and see if they can increase readership. This doesn't always work of course but for the publisher it is likely the wise choice to make. They don't make a lot of money from the anime itself and are more interested in book sales and for that a new series has a better chance than a third season. It may still bomb of course but that's the chance you take every time you make anime.

After many years, a second or third season of anime may not even sell many discs so there isn't even a guarantee that a third season of Index would make 10K. It could easily pull a Durarara and not even make 5K.
 
 
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Kin088 said:


They had a chance to make a new season, but they chose to adapt Heavy Object instead, which was, in my view, a major flop ...
So I don't think we will see a new season of Index soon, with its popularity and LN sales dropping these last few volumes...
That's the choice they have to make every time. Make a sequel or make a new series? With 2 seasons of Index already out there they likely figured a third season wouldn't do much if anything to boost readership. Might as well take a chance on a new series, Heavy Object, and see if they can increase readership. This doesn't always work of course but for the publisher it is likely the wise choice to make. They don't make a lot of money from the anime itself and are more interested in book sales and for that a new series has a better chance than a third season. It may still bomb of course but that's the chance you take every time you make anime.

After many years, a second or third season of anime may not even sell many discs so there isn't even a guarantee that a third season of Index would make 10K. It could easily pull a Durarara and not even make 5K.


You have a point, but in this case, it was clear that it was gonna fail from the very beginning.

They know that people 'Want' a new season of Index and have been waiting for a long time, and that Heavy Object was not popular at all. Heck, even I, who has been reading the Index LN for a very long time didn't even know about Heavy Object.

So, it was very clear from the start, which one was gonna receive better reception from the Anime fans and LN readers.

And the result was as expected, with some fans even deciding to not watch Heavy Object as a sort of protest against the decision. Also, the Index LN has decreased quite a lot in readership and sales after these events. I think NT 13 was the last vol to reach the 100k mark. I could be wrong.

In short, they know what the fans wanted but decided to not give it to them even though they could have given it. Personally, I consider this as a betrayal to the fans who have been loyal for so many years. lol

But everything is done and dusted. So accepting it is all that's left for us.
 
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Kin088 said:


You have a point, but in this case, it was clear that it was gonna fail from the very beginning.

They know that people 'Want' a new season of Index and have been waiting for a long time, and that Heavy Object was not popular at all. Heck, even I, who has been reading the Index LN for a very long time didn't even know about Heavy Object.


Actually, that's exactly why Heavy Object was the better bet. From the light novel publisher's perspective, the main purpose of anime adaptation is to get people to find out about these stories so they go out and buy the volumes. People who would buy Index generally already know about the series, and are already buying it. Sure they might then go out and buy the anime discs, but it's not likely that there would be a big boost to the novels - particularly not 30-40 volumes into the series, which is what we're talking about here. Any boost you would see would mostly be people who would have gotten around to buying the volumes eventually choosing to go out and buy them sooner rather than later.

And that is why light novel adaptations hardly ever get 3rd series. In fact, Slayers and the Monogatari Series are the only ones I can think of that did. The former we don't have data for and the latter the 3rd anime series did very little indeed to boost the novel sales. Indeed sales from volume to volume actually went down during that period.
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@Kin088 I am curious as to how you read the Index LN. Did you buy the Japanese volumes? Or read translated versions? I suspect you didn't buy the Japanese volumes as they would certainly have included ads for Heavy Object since both are from the same publisher. Any actual buyer and reader of the Japanese Index LNs would have seen the leaflets that fall out and would have known well about Heavy Object.

So the anime for Heavy Object was actually meant to find new readers who likely hadn't read the Index LNs. The publisher would not worry about Index fans who would already have seen the ads for Heavy Object.
 
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@Kin088 I am curious as to how you read the Index LN. Did you buy the Japanese volumes? Or read translated versions? I suspect you didn't buy the Japanese volumes as they would certainly have included ads for Heavy Object since both are from the same publisher. Any actual buyer and reader of the Japanese Index LNs would have seen the leaflets that fall out and would have known well about Heavy Object.

So the anime for Heavy Object was actually meant to find new readers who likely hadn't read the Index LNs. The publisher would not worry about Index fans who would already have seen the ads for Heavy Object.


Well, ya, I read the translated versions online... there is no way to get the original copies from where I am..

Whatever ways they tried, unfortunately it seems to have failed.. What worried me is that this would have a negative impact on both Index and Heavy Object LNs or Anime.. and this seemed to be the case..
 
 
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Kin088 said:
hpulley said:
@Kin088 I am curious as to how you read the Index LN. Did you buy the Japanese volumes? Or read translated versions? I suspect you didn't buy the Japanese volumes as they would certainly have included ads for Heavy Object since both are from the same publisher. Any actual buyer and reader of the Japanese Index LNs would have seen the leaflets that fall out and would have known well about Heavy Object.

So the anime for Heavy Object was actually meant to find new readers who likely hadn't read the Index LNs. The publisher would not worry about Index fans who would already have seen the ads for Heavy Object.


Well, ya, I read the translated versions online... there is no way to get the original copies from where I am..

Whatever ways they tried, unfortunately it seems to have failed.. What worried me is that this would have a negative impact on both Index and Heavy Object LNs or Anime.. and this seemed to be the case..
Amazon ships there... I think CDJapan does but anyway, that's why you didn't see the mentions of Heavy Object. Most online translations won't bother with any of that stuff of course.

I seriously doubt Heavy Object's anime had any negative impact on the sales of Index or Heavy Object. Index is an old series and drop off just occurs over time as people lose interest and move onto other things. LN author's next series not doing as well as a really popular series is also very common. Heavy Object is something different, which I applaud but it may not appeal as much. That's a risk you take by trying something different but I'm glad they tried this rather than just make something which is the same. Doesn't always work for sales of course.
 
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Kin088 said:


You have a point, but in this case, it was clear that it was gonna fail from the very beginning.

They know that people 'Want' a new season of Index and have been waiting for a long time, and that Heavy Object was not popular at all. Heck, even I, who has been reading the Index LN for a very long time didn't even know about Heavy Object.


Actually, that's exactly why Heavy Object was the better bet. From the light novel publisher's perspective, the main purpose of anime adaptation is to get people to find out about these stories so they go out and buy the volumes. People who would buy Index generally already know about the series, and are already buying it. Sure they might then go out and buy the anime discs, but it's not likely that there would be a big boost to the novels - particularly not 30-40 volumes into the series, which is what we're talking about here. Any boost you would see would mostly be people who would have gotten around to buying the volumes eventually choosing to go out and buy them sooner rather than later.

And that is why light novel adaptations hardly ever get 3rd series. In fact, Slayers and the Monogatari Series are the only ones I can think of that did. The former we don't have data for and the latter the 3rd anime series did very little indeed to boost the novel sales. Indeed sales from volume to volume actually went down during that period.


Lets just hope Kamachi and his Crew know how to handle this.
As an Index fan, watching its popularity go down is hard to swallow. If, atleast the sales were still good like before, there is slight hope for another season. But if it continues to go down, it seems more and more unlikely..
 
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Well, ya, I read the translated versions online... there is no way to get the original copies from where I am..

Whatever ways they tried, unfortunately it seems to have failed.. What worried me is that this would have a negative impact on both Index and Heavy Object LNs or Anime.. and this seemed to be the case..
Amazon ships there... I think CDJapan does but anyway, that's why you didn't see the mentions of Heavy Object. Most online translations won't bother with any of that stuff of course.

I seriously doubt Heavy Object's anime had any negative impact on the sales of Index or Heavy Object. Index is an old series and drop off just occurs over time as people lose interest and move onto other things. LN author's next series not doing as well as a really popular series is also very common. Heavy Object is something different, which I applaud but it may not appeal as much. That's a risk you take by trying something different but I'm glad they tried this rather than just make something which is the same. Doesn't always work for sales of course.


Ah sorry, I wasn't clear when I said negative impact. What I meant was that Heavy Object being adapted instead of Index S3 had a negative impact on Heavy Object's anime itself and not others.

If it hadn't any sort of relation to Kamachi and Index, I think the anime would have been better appreciated by viewers. I read somewhere that there are some people/Index fans who boycotted watching the anime simply because it was chosen instead of Index S3.
Whether true or not, it says a lot about what the fans think.
 
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Kin088 said:
hpulley said:
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I seriously doubt Heavy Object's anime had any negative impact on the sales of Index or Heavy Object. Index is an old series and drop off just occurs over time as people lose interest and move onto other things. LN author's next series not doing as well as a really popular series is also very common. Heavy Object is something different, which I applaud but it may not appeal as much. That's a risk you take by trying something different but I'm glad they tried this rather than just make something which is the same. Doesn't always work for sales of course.


Ah sorry, I wasn't clear when I said negative impact. What I meant was that Heavy Object being adapted instead of Index S3 had a negative impact on Heavy Object's anime itself and not others.

If it hadn't any sort of relation to Kamachi and Index, I think the anime would have been better appreciated by viewers. I read somewhere that there are some people/Index fans who boycotted watching the anime simply because it was chosen instead of Index S3.
Whether true or not, it says a lot about what the fans think.
Oh I see. Sorry I misunderstood you there. I agree and it is why some authors use a different pen name for every series, especially when trying something different, though of course the HOPE was that "author of Index" would increase sales. It can sometimes work against you instead.
 
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Wow, 100k+ in Wk 12, that's huge! Your Name appears to be a real phenomenon in Japan. I Wouldn't totally rule it from joining Moshidora and Biblia in that elite 1m+ club. Do you think it has a chance @kuuderes_shadow?
 
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Wow, 100k+ in Wk 12, that's huge! Your Name appears to be a real phenomenon in Japan. I Wouldn't totally rule it from joining Moshidora and Biblia in that elite 1m+ club. Do you think it has a chance @kuuderes_shadow?


I really don't know.
When it's sitting on rank 1 of the daily rankings you can't tell if it's going up or down either. Then again, Mahouka is out today. No way it will beat that on release day but if it tops it the day after then that will be a sign that it's still increasing fast. Beating Maou-sama on release day would also indicate that the sales are still going up.

I'm pretty damn sure no light novel or not-quite-light-novel has ever sold anywhere near 100k in a week as late as week 12 before though, so we're in uncharted territory already. For that matter, I'm not sure any work of fiction ever has - perhaps Harry Potter or Eien no 0 might have I guess?

To put you in perspective, the longest any SAO volume ever lasted on the rankings before dropping out was 11 weeks. The last Biblia volume sold 6543 on week 12 and then dropped out of the rankings the following week.

Both the things you mentioned made it to a million by lasting in the rankings for literally years (including reappearances), as did Toshokan Sensou. Well, Moshidora took 10 months to get there... Unless it starts dropping very soon, Kimi no Na wa. could well not only get there but get there faster than anything else has to date.
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The film looks set to reach more than 10b Yen and possibly even reach 15b yen which is insane...
 
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Now I'm really curious to see what the hype is with Kimi no Na wa.

Tensei shitara Slime Datta Ken anime adaptation when?


Don't watch the shitty bootleg everyone is looking at right now. Watch it as it's meant to be seen - in a theater or on blu-ray.
 
 
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I really don't know.
When it's sitting on rank 1 of the daily rankings you can't tell if it's going up or down either. Then again, Mahouka is out today. No way it will beat that on release day but if it tops it the day after then that will be a sign that it's still increasing fast. Beating Maou-sama on release day would also indicate that the sales are still going up.


POS daily bunko rankings:

* M T W T F S S
K 1 1 1  1 1 2 1
M * * * * * 1 2
H * * * * * 3 10
R 2 2 2  2 2 8 7

along top: days of week
along side: K = Kimi no Na wa, M = Mahouka, H = Hataraku Maou-sama!, R = Rakuda

tagging @Agafin
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kuuderes_shadow said:
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I really don't know.
When it's sitting on rank 1 of the daily rankings you can't tell if it's going up or down either. Then again, Mahouka is out today. No way it will beat that on release day but if it tops it the day after then that will be a sign that it's still increasing fast. Beating Maou-sama on release day would also indicate that the sales are still going up.


POS daily bunko rankings:

* M T W T F S S
K 1 1 1  1 1 2 1
M * * * * * 1 2
H * * * * * 3 10
R 2 2 2  2 2 8 7

along top: days of week
along side: K = Kimi no Na wa, M = Mahouka, H = Hataraku Maou-sama!, R = Rakuda

tagging @Agafin


Wow that's insane, doesn't Mahouka generally sell 100k+ copies in its first week (depending on the # of days that is)? So the fact that Mahouka could only beat it on its first day means that we might see another 100k+ week, potentially 150k+ even. Looking at other media, its OST also sold more units this week than last week (according to the list posted here on Mal) and its box office take for last weekend was on par with the previous one so that's a good omen for the novel's sales this week compared to the last.

I've looked at the Top selling LNs (from your site, not sure if it's up to date though) and I think that if it sells 150k+ this week, then Biblia vol.1 will be toast. Moshidora however still seems out of reach for now but you never know. Pretty incredible performance either way.
 
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I've looked at the Top selling LNs (from your site, not sure if it's up to date though)


It doesn't have the week covered by this thread or the monthly rankings for August on there yet but other than that it's up to date. For future reference, I make a post every time I update it so if you want to see how up to date it is you just have to check the last post on the thread.

Oh, and on a point of pedantry, lndb is not my site.
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