I have never ever ever ever said this.
Also Karote your mind is controlled right? Can you not vote or do anything today. The best we know mind controlling is bad.
grrr said: I have never ever ever ever said this.
Also Karote your mind is controlled right? Can you not vote or do anything today. The best we know mind controlling is bad.
Are you talking about coro's ability last night? I believe it just copies an ability or something
I wonder if you can judge by the characters though? Because then again, Homura Akemi flipped town when she's the villain so I don't know.
I think we should look more into more than just which character was a protagonist and which character wasn't.
I dunno that, but I believe that host creats abilities and such for roles looking at describtions and when ya see smth like "blackmailing" in a describtion, that tells ya smth xD
Seeing as how everyones set in their ways and not providing much reasons as to why im considered to be scum might as well speed up my death since town like killing other town.
grrr said: I have never ever ever ever said this.
Also Karote your mind is controlled right? Can you not vote or do anything today. The best we know mind controlling is bad.
_Claire_ said: That is why, I want everyone to tell me their flavour role and then we can get Smoker.
If everyone were to claim, we should've done it from the very beginning and killed off whoever's character seemed suspicious.
That way if Smoker used an attack, we lynch him and so on. Any idea why we didn't do that?
Maybe because it's only a good idea for bulletproof and ability proof and lynch proof people but not everyone else.
But it might have been a good idea to massclaim. The only problem is that nobody wants to claim a whole lot if they are not pressured or have any reason to claim.
_Claire_ said: Also,
I know this is looking very bad for me but here, there are only me, denjax, coro and zymf in the train.
If there are two scums that means beside coro there is another scum..
It's almost like you knew coromandel was gonna flip scum ಠ_ಠ
SightlessReality said: Not really in order for something like that to happen there would need to be one scum left in the game. Which means odds are town would be in the winning position anyways.
Nah. As DenjaX said, convert a mafia, he becomes a townie with a townie win con. He reveals his former teammates to town. Profit!
It is weird but maybe the doctor has to know the target's character and correct faction for it to work (for example: if someone lied about their faction and was mafia but claimed TPR, it wouldn't work).
Nah, there was no restrictions like that. I just had to choose 1 living player and switch their role with 1 dead player.
I hope this is the last Smoker ability he can use. Dont tell me he is day time SK or sth.
Also she appears scum under invest.
Yea, it's cool that we'll get coromandel back. But Smoker killed someone who was inevitable gonna get lynched, doesn't that mean he is town-alligned?
reiynii said: What? But if coro is town which 2 are mafia from the list?
Ye, I want more info from @Karote. What ability did you use and what was the exact results?
Also, claiming your flavor and other abilities would be nice too...
Mishukax said: I'm still having a headache about what role actions get mentioned in Kaitou's posts, and what role actions don't. If they all appear, then we have some people to suspect.
My protection ability haven't been shown once, even though I've used it each night. Might only show if I target someone who is actually getting killed.
The combo of those last two nights was honestly weird to me. I'm afraid mafia could have a tactic that clears them of suspicion with this. Like killing/protecting themselves.
I'm still having a headache about what role actions get mentioned in Kaitou's posts, and what role actions don't. If they all appear, then we have some people to suspect.
I'm still not conviced about Rinto-kun, even with Homura showing off as mafia when invest'.
This would be some twisted shet if Mafia attacked themselves to be proven townie. What kind of mastermind are we dealing with that would think that way?
Since Mafia would only target town and they probably know the write-ups would appear like that if they fail a kill. xDD
It is quite odd and there is a slight possibility that we are dealing with such "masterminds". But at least we have got a lot of Kill-less nights in return ^^
Let's wait a bit more and then maybe try and lynch Mkim or hlanden later in the game...
Also, Mkim just claimed 1-shot bulletprof, which seems likely to be true.
Shinichi-Kun said: Also whats the point of revealing like 6 flavor roles just to catch 1?
Why shouldn't we? It doesn't help the mafia that much + It makes the game less confusing.
Rinto-kun said: By the way, I think I got some time now so I can tell you my other ability or so-called game aka Virtual Fighter 2. Basically I can play with somebody and whoever wins gets one more of his own one-shot abilities and the other one loses it. We can play if somebody wants :3
What happens if you don't have any more oneshot abilities to lose?
This is the best part - you lose nothing if you already have used it.
Great! Then let's play, how does it work? Do you just target me at night?
Shinichi-Kun said: I mean at that point why even reveal investigative role results if ur gonna kill the person to test if they are lieing.
Uhm, to gain liability of course? It's a perfectly reasonable thing to do.
_Claire_ said: Okay.
I think Lamby is lying too, looking at Tsukikox role.
Sorry for killling a town, anyway.
It's okay ^^
Although, this does confirm that your vigilante claim was not a lie since you did have shooting abilities as well.
And your flavor please.
I couldnt stop thinking how we would keep on narrowing down to the list so I was impatient and kill the inactive.
And I am not scum, I know it looks bad for me. @Karote can you confirm with @Kaitou if your ability detects TPR? If not, and we chooses to believe you that means either Denjax or Zymf is scum.
vote: coromandel
I have said it so many times that it only detects scum ........
No, I'm not gonna bother anymore, lmao.
Are you yourself innocent under investigation?
You think I would be trying find 2nd scum in there if I wasn't?
Just leave my result alone for now.
What do you mean leave your result now?
Either you or Denjax is scum. We have talked nothing but Shadow's train might as well finish this no?
I just read the posts.
I guess I will full claim now.
My voting power is 0, on Shadowsnake vs. greenwillow I said votes weren't tied cus I was on the train but for some reason it was still tied. (I voted for Shadowsnake)
Didn't want claim that one cus once I do, I lose the power of pressure.
Name flavour please.
All Fiction - 50% chance of annuling any gimmicks/change of rules
Lack of Presence (Passive) - At the expense of being abilityproof, my voting power is 0.
Imagination Manifestation - Create any one-shot ability within reasoning. Excluding kills and super-kills.
And your flavor please.
You haven't yet confirmed that you are actually Misogi Kumagawa. Are you?
grrr said: Yes. I have the mason ability, but I don't control who I will get to be a mason with.
Nelsonma11355 was the inactive mason. I trust the other mason because he is trying really hard so I don't think he is scum. He confirmed that claire is Pike (not that she is town, but what pike does seems townish).
@the one who swapped villa's body. Can you confirm that you swapped her alignment too?
I won't be able to post more today. If I die tonight we agreed the other mason will reveal. If he doesn't then you know that Dr. Who is mafia.
You mean you were mason with Nelsonma11355 + another one? And don't you know the alignment of the other masons?
And I switch their roles, so that would include alignment... I think - Will confirm this with Kaitou.
Vote Lynch Karote
Your fip would be very informative and you also have some explaining to do! How did you know there was 2 scum om Shadowssnakes train?
I'd rather get lynched than explain everything all over again.
Hmmm.. I can't read you.
You might be scum, trying to conceal a bummer you've made with a bad excuse.
Or you might be town who just genuinely doesn't care.
My vote stays on you.
talonbone said: ive been setting my alarm early on purpose so i have a little time before work to post, youre welcome. anyways this game is going absolutely nowhere real quick. heres my theory.. THERE IS NO MAFIA
think about it, 3 nights of no night kills. thats not luck or coincidence, thats pure bastard imo. ive been trying my hardest to wrap my head around this nd that is the only conclusion i can come up with
I was most definitely shot, I felt the repercussions
Rinto-kun said: because all they've done till now seem scum-ish)
Yuno tho? Only thing she did was to make us know what hlanded, wasn't it? Seems pretty coo for me
Rinto-kun said: @Holocaster @ZombieWolf2508 Can't you just, ahem, claim?
I mean we have almost narrowed down every single player just by claiming and going down this way we will eventually find Smoker and Yuno (which I got no idea why they don't claim, because all they've done till now seem scum-ish)
Since you asked nicely, I'm the former of the two. One shot superkill, one shot day kill, kills have a 25% chance of being "hidden" in smoke, and I have a 50% chance of showing guilty on investigation. My wincon is just to live to the end of the game.
To answer the questions I already know you'll all have, I killed Hlanden on a hunch I had, and it was unfortunately wrong. I was originally planning to target Claire for claiming indie (as I thought she had fake claimed my role) but decided not to when she claimed Pike, just in case.
I killed Coro because we all believed them to be Mafia based on what seemed like reliable info, I figured it would be better to not waste a lynch.
Are you claiming survivor?
WE GOT A NEW ONE
WE GOT A NEW ONE
HE'S THIRD PARTY
HE'S THIRD PARTY
YOU'RE THIRD PARTY
ARE THERE ANY MORE THIRD PARTIES I SHOULD KNOW ABOUT?
As mentioned before, I don't find it all that wierd, that there should be multiple TPR's in a bastard game. There might be 1-2 more? Perhaps this is a game where 1/3 of the players are TPR? ¯\_(ツ)_/¯
Rinto-kun said: ^I just assume the thing about reiynii.
The other thing I know is that the other mason member is inactive so I guess it's aa and also grr was the mason
Karote said: I never said I wanted to waste lynch, I said the exact opposite.
I said I would manipulate lynch if town were about to mislynch or lynch 3rd party again.
And town had no clues ...... how do mafia feel threatened about that, what.
I used my ability because town had no clues, otherwise if I was mafia, I wouldn't bother and use it for other means, such as make my fake-claim more convincing.
I was talking about Zymf during my first paragraph. It's true that you used it to help town get an advantage but it's also valid that the mafia thought that there were a lot of townsfolk (depending on their number, willow says there are 6 of them but is that confirmed?) and wanted to get rid of them sooner.
It's a dangerous move, but I'm not sure I feel like anyone else is more mafia aligned after everyone on your list flipping town. I hate to doubt what people are saying but how do you expect me not to suspect you after that?
Do you think we should lynch them all until we know if what you said was true?
No? We only lynched Sithis from my result and lots of people agreed with the lynch, altough some of it were just mafia manipulating the lynch.
Everyone else died from modkill or by vigilante.
You're exaggerating.
Also, damn sherlock. There were only 2 scum on my result, so yes. Most people will die as town, what you expect? You suspect me because of it? XDD coromandel was one of the people that showed up scum.
2nd and last one is either me or Denja obviously since there are reduced suspects now.
Assuming you think Denja is town if you're willing lynch me over him, give me reasons for that.
Does Denja seems more town-ish than me or what.
But coromandel flipped town.
DenjaX said: Guys let willow vote first xDD But I guess it is unnecessary xDD
Holocaster said: Mayne you said you were useful to town if you were dead so I'm just gonna do this. And if it comes down to Karote and you, I'll have to choose you because Karote gave some helpfulness, even though it kind of turned chaotic lol but he still tried to help so.
Yeah because I am an anomaly. After my lynch, people should stop looking at Karote's list unless I got 40% and there is actually a scum left in his list xDD I can also confirm someone's alignment with my death xDD
I won't bother changing my vote from Karote... but I guess you are not a bad lynch either :/
Rinto-kun said: uh... does anyone wanna try playing with me? @Zymf you up for it?
I still have 1 One-shot ability, but will use it tonight.
But yea, I'm up for it (Especially if I don't somehow get my ability roleblocked by "betting it")
I'm really not sure who is more suspicious right now and I'm not sure why everyone is lynching Shinichi, but I'm gonna [vote lynch Zombiewolf] and read back to see if I can figure out what happened
grrr said: I have never ever ever ever said this.
Also Karote your mind is controlled right? Can you not vote or do anything today. The best we know mind controlling is bad.
Zymf said: As mentioned before, I don't find it all that wierd, that there should be multiple TPR's in a bastard game. There might be 1-2 more? Perhaps this is a game where 1/3 of the players are TPR? ¯\_(ツ)_/¯
This somewhat pleases me, not for the good reasons
Homura be having a passive to appear as guilty on investigations
But also have a revive skill, so the death is not that all meaningful
still somewhat meaningful
I agree. I feel like people don't put enough thought when voting. Well, I do think Shinichi-kun is scummy since he is quite nonchalant about being killed. Although with Lord's town flip, I kind of doubt mafia would stay quite while being killed, only townies do that unfortunately.
grrr said: I have never ever ever ever said this.
Also Karote your mind is controlled right? Can you not vote or do anything today. The best we know mind controlling is bad.
Are you talking about coro's ability last night? I believe it just copies an ability or something
Oh forgot that coro is that one charcter. good then coromondel will tell us the ability she got from karote. So we can't lynch him today.
Also as much as I want to lynch denja he is innocent child. You can't just lynch him. If coromondel confirms karote Zymf will have to go.
Out of the remaining players, I don't know. Shinchi is really not helping. And these 3rd party claims make no sense. about zombie. I saw one more strong kill in the death players so I don't want to lynch him so much now.
I agree. I feel like people don't put enough thought when voting. Well, I do think Shinichi-kun is scummy since he is quite nonchalant about being killed. Although with Lord's town flip, I kind of doubt mafia would stay quite while being killed, only townies do that unfortunately.
Still, feels like I ignited the spark.
Rinto-kun said: Vote:Shinichi-kun
I see no other light in the tunnel...
_Claire_ said: Also,
I know this is looking very bad for me but here, there are only me, denjax, coro and zymf in the train.
If there are two scums that means beside coro there is another scum..
It's almost like you knew coromandel was gonna flip scum ಠ_ಠ
SightlessReality said: Not really in order for something like that to happen there would need to be one scum left in the game. Which means odds are town would be in the winning position anyways.
Nah. As DenjaX said, convert a mafia, he becomes a townie with a townie win con. He reveals his former teammates to town. Profit!
It is weird but maybe the doctor has to know the target's character and correct faction for it to work (for example: if someone lied about their faction and was mafia but claimed TPR, it wouldn't work).
Nah, there was no restrictions like that. I just had to choose 1 living player and switch their role with 1 dead player.
I hope this is the last Smoker ability he can use. Dont tell me he is day time SK or sth.
Also she appears scum under invest.
Yea, it's cool that we'll get coromandel back. But Smoker killed someone who was inevitable gonna get lynched, doesn't that mean he is town-alligned?
reiynii said: What? But if coro is town which 2 are mafia from the list?
Ye, I want more info from @Karote. What ability did you use and what was the exact results?
Also, claiming your flavor and other abilities would be nice too...
Mishukax said: I'm still having a headache about what role actions get mentioned in Kaitou's posts, and what role actions don't. If they all appear, then we have some people to suspect.
My protection ability haven't been shown once, even though I've used it each night. Might only show if I target someone who is actually getting killed.
The combo of those last two nights was honestly weird to me. I'm afraid mafia could have a tactic that clears them of suspicion with this. Like killing/protecting themselves.
I'm still having a headache about what role actions get mentioned in Kaitou's posts, and what role actions don't. If they all appear, then we have some people to suspect.
I'm still not conviced about Rinto-kun, even with Homura showing off as mafia when invest'.
This would be some twisted shet if Mafia attacked themselves to be proven townie. What kind of mastermind are we dealing with that would think that way?
Since Mafia would only target town and they probably know the write-ups would appear like that if they fail a kill. xDD
It is quite odd and there is a slight possibility that we are dealing with such "masterminds". But at least we have got a lot of Kill-less nights in return ^^
Let's wait a bit more and then maybe try and lynch Mkim or hlanden later in the game...
Also, Mkim just claimed 1-shot bulletprof, which seems likely to be true.
Shinichi-Kun said: Also whats the point of revealing like 6 flavor roles just to catch 1?
Why shouldn't we? It doesn't help the mafia that much + It makes the game less confusing.
@the one who swapped villa's body. Can you confirm that you swapped her alignment too?
I won't be able to post more today. If I die tonight we agreed the other mason will reveal. If he doesn't then you know that Dr. Who is mafia.
You mean you were mason with Nelsonma11355 + another one? And don't you know the alignment of the other masons?
And I switch their roles, so that would include alignment... I think - Will confirm this with Kaitou.
So zymf you used your ability without even knowing what it does? This is really suspicious.
I just hadn't considered the possibility that the alignment could have remained the same when switching roles.
And it turned out that wasn't the case either.
grr said: Ye, I want more info from @Karote. What ability did you use and what was the exact results?
Also, claiming your flavor and other abilities would be nice too...
get out
It was me that said that. Grrr just messed up the quoting.
I wonder if you can judge by the characters though? Because then again, Homura Akemi flipped town when she's the villain so I don't know.
I think we should look more into more than just which character was a protagonist and which character wasn't.
1. Homura Akemi wasn't a villain
2. Protagonist doesn't necessarily mean God guy.
But you are right, we shouldn't judge alignments from flavor roles.
Rinto-kun said: Why didn't we massacre the third parties from the very beginning...
EXACTLY!
But nobody wanted to lynch greenwillow when I was pushing for her lynch x.x