| I don't mean the title literal but is it just me? I keep hearing people talk about how MMO's are really social and the amazing stories people have had and yet I find it really hard to encounter or talk to anyone in them. I mean I have a level 40+ on SWTOR and except for partying up for exp ive never spoken to or run with other people. Same for FFXIV I just don't naturally drift into the mmo style you just see single players running around all the time I got a level 30+ white mage and still can't figure out how some people have a really social time on mmo's and others including me might as well be playing a single player grindfest. |
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| In FFXIV most people socialize at their FC's house. |
| Most MMORPGs lack forced social interaction as a result of their development over the years, but it doesn't mean that it's never a necessity. Levelling at this point can't be helped, but if you want to get into the competent stage of endgame in most MMORPGs, you need to be the most socialistically social motherfucker you've ever been, since getting into groups/guilds at this level is usually comparable to applying for a job. As an example from personal experience, in TERA, you need to push and make a name for yourself on the server if you want to do the super fun stuff consistently. Otherwise, you'll be stuck doing nothing but grinding your heart out and living on the edge, since TERA's low population albeit high skill expectation bars many players from entry. |
| Are you the one trying to socialize or are you just expecting people to magically start talking to you like you're special? If you're not initiating discussion, then obviously not. I mean unless you got some really obscure character with a really weird look or name, like I remember Donald Trump joined my FC in FFXIV and I said I wouldn't vote for him and he quit. |
Spooks said: I don't mean the title literal but is it just me? I keep hearing people talk about how MMO's are really social and the amazing stories people have had and yet I find it really hard to encounter or talk to anyone in them. I mean I have a level 40+ on SWTOR and except for partying up for exp ive never spoken to or run with other people. Same for FFXIV I just don't naturally drift into the mmo style you just see single players running around all the time I got a level 30+ white mage and still can't figure out how some people have a really social time on mmo's and others including me might as well be playing a single player grindfest. I had that problem when I played FFXIV. Despite seeing people running around nobody ever talked. SWTOR seems to just lack people and a way to chat across zones. Hardly anyone sits around in the main fleet areas. Elder Scrolls Online has a pretty active community. I had zero problem getting into groups and chatting away with people. The world / zone channel is usually filled with constant chatter. |
JunkYardHiro said: Despite seeing people running around nobody ever talked. People usually don't talk in the public channels in MMOs. When I played I would usually use guild chat, whisper, or voice chat. |
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| I mean, it depends on the mmo. Normally open-world type mmos are more social, while grindy ones are less so. |
| Be thankful for the wisdom granted to you. |
| FFXIV is pretty social as long as you join a FC. Otherwise it's pretty hard to socialize unless you're on the RP servers I guess. I've had some pretty good conversations in FC chat and a lot of my memories of that game revolve around some of the dumb stuff we would talk about. Otherwise, my experience with MMOs has been a bunch of people playing the game as if it's some sort of SPORPG. |
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| idk what you mean, but in neverwinter there are a lot of social people tbh. I am just starting out and there was this girl she helped me out gave me all sort of items, companion and much much more. We skype a lot and became great friends XD |
In the name of Allah, the Gracious, the Merciful. | You know what I hate the most? People who aren't free. They're no more than cattle. |
Narmy said: JunkYardHiro said: Despite seeing people running around nobody ever talked. People usually don't talk in the public channels in MMOs. When I played I would usually use guild chat, whisper, or voice chat. I guess thats the case with Final Fantasy. By comparison the WoW channels were always active. |
Spooks said: I don't mean the title literal but is it just me? I keep hearing people talk about how MMO's are really social and the amazing stories people have had and yet I find it really hard to encounter or talk to anyone in them. I mean I have a level 40+ on SWTOR and except for partying up for exp ive never spoken to or run with other people. Same for FFXIV I just don't naturally drift into the mmo style you just see single players running around all the time I got a level 30+ white mage and still can't figure out how some people have a really social time on mmo's and others including me might as well be playing a single player grindfest. Socializing in MMOs died years ago. Yeah, you get those areas where people talk but its all memes these days. I mean, you can try joining a casual FC or one around socialization will allow you to socialize with a small subsect of the population, or joining Linkshells. Even the Shittiest F2P MMOs used to be MUCH MUCH more social about 5-10 years ago. Ironically that was the time most MMOs required alot more cooperation given most MMOs can be solo'd, and for what cant be, there is always the duty finder that automatically puts you into a group, these days. There used to be a time where you'd actually have to build social connections and talk to people to get runs, but that kind of thinking died years ago. ERP guilds are pretty funny though. |
| Convenience and casualization killed MMOs. Queues made it so that you no longer have to interact with other people in the world to get a run going. Fast travel made running into other players happen less frequently. Lone wolf Kirito-wannabe faggots whining to devs that they can't solo play a game in an MMO. Less focus on guild quests. Devs turning their games into boring hugboxes when rivalries, competition, and e-drama add more to the game. |
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| Well you have to search for those encounters. Make friends and that stuff will happen. Though I don't make friends on mmo's anymore, I just walk around. |
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Paul said: If you play as a girl then people will magically start talking to you like you're special.Are you the one trying to socialize or are you just expecting people to magically start talking to you like you're special? If you're not initiating discussion, then obviously not. I mean unless you got some really obscure character with a really weird look or name, like I remember Donald Trump joined my FC in FFXIV and I said I wouldn't vote for him and he quit. |
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UnpopularAnime said: Paul said: If you play as a girl then people will magically start talking to you like you're special.Are you the one trying to socialize or are you just expecting people to magically start talking to you like you're special? If you're not initiating discussion, then obviously not. I mean unless you got some really obscure character with a really weird look or name, like I remember Donald Trump joined my FC in FFXIV and I said I wouldn't vote for him and he quit. Maybe back like 10 years ago. Playing as a female character is extremely common and in FFXIV more so cause a good majority of the population was female miqote, aka catgirls. |
PaulAug 30, 2016 9:54 PM
| Yes, truly social MMOs are something of the past. Most MMOs these days can be easily played solo (such as SWTOR in which you can easily level 1-65 solo), and most people will play solo if they are able to, so it kills the social aspect. Back in the day MMOs would often require coordinated groups in order to make progress, which forced players to create social bonds. Actively seeking out a guild that suits your interests is probably the best way to have a more social experience. |
FontSize72LOL said: Socializing in MMOs died years ago. Yeah, you get those areas where people talk but its all memes these days. I mean, you can try joining a casual FC or one around socialization will allow you to socialize with a small subsect of the population, or joining Linkshells. 95PercentCaim said: Convenience and casualization killed MMOs. Queues made it so that you no longer have to interact with other people in the world to get a run going. Fast travel made running into other players happen less frequently. Lone wolf Kirito-wannabe faggots whining to devs that they can't solo play a game in an MMO. Less focus on guild quests. Devs turning their games into boring hugboxes when rivalries, competition, and e-drama add more to the game. I think these are probably the answer. I had a friend who played FF11 all the time and he loved how social it was we both played 14 together and he loves it but complained about how casual it was and how little it forced people to need to interact with each other. He was extremely social in 11 for a number of years hell he attended virtual weddings but even he found it near impossible to get any level of social stuff going in later MMO's because nobody was interested and the game made it hard to need it. |
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Spooks said: FontSize72LOL said: Socializing in MMOs died years ago. Yeah, you get those areas where people talk but its all memes these days. I mean, you can try joining a casual FC or one around socialization will allow you to socialize with a small subsect of the population, or joining Linkshells. 95PercentCaim said: Convenience and casualization killed MMOs. Queues made it so that you no longer have to interact with other people in the world to get a run going. Fast travel made running into other players happen less frequently. Lone wolf Kirito-wannabe faggots whining to devs that they can't solo play a game in an MMO. Less focus on guild quests. Devs turning their games into boring hugboxes when rivalries, competition, and e-drama add more to the game. I think these are probably the answer. I had a friend who played FF11 all the time and he loved how social it was we both played 14 together and he loves it but complained about how casual it was and how little it forced people to need to interact with each other. He was extremely social in 11 for a number of years hell he attended virtual weddings but even he found it near impossible to get any level of social stuff going in later MMO's because nobody was interested and the game made it hard to need it. Honestly i've noticed it for a long time now. Its seriously unforunate because i'm pretty sure i'll never fully enjoy an MMO ever again. Its not even that i want grinding, but MMO's should be designed around player interaction and socialization, not this lone-wolf Kirito bullshit Caim pointed out. It doesn't help that alot of the playerbase in pretty much any game i've tried these days are toxic. Even if things were brought back to the way things were 5-10 years ago, I don't think i'd even enjoy it nearly as much as i did then, but honestly that says more about the degredation of internet culture and the influence of social media as a whole. People on the internet are just bigger dicks these days in general. I can probably count on both hands the number of people i've met on games that i've actually had long lasting friendships and comaraderie with in the last 5 years. I feel like thats that much harder to find meaningful groups, but who knows, that might just be me. But yeah this is kind of a rant i guess but honestly i used to love playing MMOs, and these days, unless i'm playing with friends specifically, it just feels like a lifeless chore. |
| It just ain't the same anymore. There's no sense of hardcore grindfesting and adventure. |
| idk what you're talking about. When I play an mmo I literally cannot get away from other people. In arc age I got invited to guilds every time I played. idk maybe your character is just ugly. |
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| Maybe it was a thing of old MMOs. I met my irl friend in ragnarok online... so my life would probably be completely different (for better or worse) if it wasn't for that game. |
| Have you ever tried talking to the dweebs in the hubs? Usually how it works for me is that everyone is as silent as a statue, someone breaks the ice, everyone starts talking to each other and everyone shuts up 5 minutes later because the chat has become a mess at that point. You would also be amazed how many people sign up for random adventuring if you curl up in a corner like the social outcast that you are and start spaming shitty binds asking for people to go on a quest with you. |
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| I've made plenty of friends in Wildstar. Funnily enough, the game doesn't have a huge playerbase, it's just that whenever I came across a person they seemed really friendly, we kill and we meme. That's how friendships are made. |
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hoopla123 said: It just ain't the same anymore. There's no sense of hardcore grindfesting and adventure. +1 for this! Grinding eats your social status. |
"A half moon, it has a dark half and a bright half, just like me…", Yuno Gasai |
| I just continuously talk to random people until someone replies. It usually works for the most part lol I suppose it also depends on the community. In some games some people just won't talk to you if you're a lower level from them, and others there are always higher leveled people talking and helping the newer ones. For example, I had a really easy time making friends in GW2 no matter what my level was, but it was difficult making friends in Neverwinter until I was over level 30. I dunno, it is harder to grind for exp and make friends at the same time sometimes. |
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