Favorite parts/characters

StefanHere said:
Ging v Parristion
Ging v Beyond
Illumi v Killua
Chrollo v Kurapika
Troupe v whoever
Kurapika's index finger reveal

just gimme those juicy unrevealed Nen abilities

LV_Esdeath said:


I'm guessing these fights happen in the manga?

Strawberrycake48 said:

Maybe, eventually we'll even see a Hisoka vs older/powered up Killua...then Illumi could perhaps tie in?? (I've always wanted to see how that'd pan out)...it's unlikely but a girl can dream!!!

Nikki_Z said:


I remember reading an article with Togashi saying that he hated time skips. I forgot if the article had a reliable source but if that's true then we'll probably never see an older version of Killua, unfortunately. ;-;

Strawberrycake48 said:
It's so difficult picking a favourite amongst so many well written and endearing characters, but I guess it'd go something like this:

1. Hisoka/Killua
2. Meruem
3. Gon
4. Illumi
5. Leorio

I can't pick between Hisoka and Killua because I love 'em equally in completely different ways- I immediately took a liking to Hisoka in all his perverse eccentricity , but it was more of a slow burn with Killua. I didn't really start to "get" him until the prelude of the Chimera Ant arc. God he made me cry so much ;_;

As for what I'm looking forward to most...I'd say the next confrontation between Hisoka and the PT bc it's gonna be completely different from their prior interactions. I can't wait!!! Then there's also the introductions of the calamaties which I'm pretty hyped to see- how/if they interact with the different parties, what makes them tick etc. etc.

Maybe, eventually we'll even see a Hisoka vs older/powered up Killua...then Illumi could perhaps tie in?? (I've always wanted to see how that'd pan out)...it's unlikely but a girl can dream!!!

LV_Esdeath said:

Feitan vs Killua

Nikki_Z said:


Feitan wouldn't even last a second. He had such a difficult time fighting against that fake chimera ant queen. The royal guards couldn't even keep up with Killua.

LV_Esdeath said:

That's not trueeee, Phinks said Feitan was rusty and we only see 1 part of his ability/power. And when he did finally beat her, it was rape. My guess would be that Feitan wins because of experience and speed. Once Killua's Godspeed runs out its over for him lol

Nikki_Z said:


Rusty or not, there's a strong difference between the royal guard and that fake ant queen. When he beat her it was because of his ability that required sustained damage to use, not a very practical ability to have in HxH considering how lethal most attacks are in the Hunter universe. How would Feitan fare against Killua in godspeed when he can hardly keep up with that fake ant queen? Killua's a genius first of all, he also has his murderous intent when fighting, meaning he'd probably go straight for the kill rather than focus on damaging them one at a time. Fighting experience doesn't necessarily amount to much in this series as it does in most other battle shonens. And Godspeed would most definitely last long enough to make short work of Feitan, probably within an instant. It's not a very good match-up as opposed to some of the others you listed.

Nikki_Z said:


Rusty or not, there's a strong difference between the royal guard and that fake ant queen. When he beat her it was because of his ability that required sustained damage to use, not a very practical ability to have in HxH considering how lethal most attacks are in the Hunter universe. How would Feitan fare against Killua in godspeed when he can hardly keep up with that fake ant queen? Killua's a genius first of all, he also has his murderous intent when fighting, meaning he'd probably go straight for the kill rather than focus on damaging them one at a time. Fighting experience doesn't necessarily amount to much in this series as it does in most other battle shonens. And Godspeed would most definitely last long enough to make short work of Feitan, probably within an instant. It's not a very good match-up as opposed to some of the others you listed.

vedatsvet said:
The only thing that many seem to just ignore is what Knuckle taught Gon in episodes 86_90. And that was the amount of aura contained and the amount of aura per attack and individual. Killua's attacks did nothing to Youpi because of the difference in aura, the same applies to him and Feitan, not to mention experience and other abilities Feitan can have.

Nikki_Z said:


I can't argue with that logic. But it also wouldn't be accurate to assume Killua was fighting at 100% when facing Youpi (as evident from his word choice during that fight). It's true that he could've been giving it his all during that attack but when he said he was just blowing off steam, all I could think about was the ambiguity of the moment. The Chimera Ants are also not human, meaning their defensive attributes are different from humans, and, correct me if I'm wrong, but I don't think Youpi was even using Aura at that time.

Concerning Feitan's abilities, I guess we'll just have to wait and see. If there's something I love about this series is that there's a coat of realism surrounding its battle system. And this is just an observation but where Killua developed one of the most practical abilities in the brink of death, Feitan used one of the most impractical abilities. The impracticality is arguable, but Killua's genius is not.

vedatsvet said:
sorry my friend but you got it all wrong. He said he " was blowing off some steam" meaning he knew he would do nothing to Yupi and he just wanted to practise not that he wouldn't give 100%, Yupi was using aura during all fight as implied by Knuckle's ability. It is exactly because HxH is realistic that Killua has minor chances against Feitan.

John6977 said:
I agree Killua is a beast but he's not on Feitan's level yet. A few more years then it would make a interesting fight.

Nikki_Z said:


Killua has minor chances? you haven't really mentioned anything to support Feitan. But yes, if there's one thing I like about this series is its sense of realism, and realistically, from what's been presented, I don't think Feitan stands any chance against Killua. After that struggle Feitan had against that fake ant queen, I think it's reasonable to believe he's one of the more weaker members.



I'd appreciate it if you said why. What exactly is Feitan's level anyway? Based on what we've seen, probably not as high as you think.

Nikki_Z said:


Killua has minor chances? you haven't really mentioned anything to support Feitan. But yes, if there's one thing I like about this series is its sense of realism, and realistically, from what's been presented, I don't think Feitan stands any chance against Killua. After that struggle Feitan had against that fake ant queen, I think it's reasonable to believe he's one of the more weaker members.



I'd appreciate it if you said why. What exactly is Feitan's level anyway? Based on what we've seen, probably not as high as you think.

StefanHere said:
hes no way near Troupe level the anime really dragged out God Speed in the manga it was 8 hits and it was over and they didn't even seem to have any destructive force to them at all it would only apply the lightning, if he can kill feitan in 8 hits that's the only way and i highly doubt that

he created a fucking sun that exploded the entire ant nest from just a broken arm and some other minor injury's and called the heat it produced "weak"

vedatsvet said:
anyone would have a struggle against fake queen, you underestimate and misjudge the power levels of the ants. Would it help you to think in place of Feitan, Hisoka or Chrollo? It might offer you a more realistic perspective. Saying that Feitan is the weakest has no basis, even the other members struggled a bit and against some captains not even a squadron leaders.

John6977 said:

I'm going to say his level is pretty high, he is a Troup member after all. And I do believe Feitan is one of the more stronger members. I might not have any evidence for that other then maybe the arm wrestling competition which I think Feitan listed at 3 or 5 maybe but still he is a Troup and I don't think Killua's there yet.

And what vedatsvet said about what Knuckle taught Gon, there nen capacity isn't high enough yet. Killua does seem to run out of steam fast when using godspeed which is understandable, he didn't seem to hurt youpi at all with his physical attacks which is not saying much since two pro hunters couldn't hurt him, but I do think Feitan would have done some damage.

Also while watching the Troup fight it is said Feitan is rusty so had he been in shape he would have probably taken the ant out a lot faster. Also Kalluto starts praising the Troup's fighting ability saying he didn't think they'd be that strong and admitting he had a long way to go before catching up, which says A LOT when your around guys like Silva and Zeno master nen users.

So yeah I don't think Killua is Troup level yet, but in a few years of more training he'll be a monster.

StefanHere said:
hes no way near Troupe level the anime really dragged out God Speed in the manga it was 8 hits and it was over and they didn't even seem to have any destructive force to them at all it would only apply the lightning, if he can kill feitan in 8 hits that's the only way and i highly doubt that

he created a fucking sun that exploded the entire ant nest from just a broken arm and some other minor injury's and called the heat it produced "weak"

Nikki_Z said:


I'm not underestimating or misjudging the power level of the ants. I just don't see how it's logical to put Feitan over Killua, based off what we've seen. Evidently, it seems you are overestimating Feitan's battle strength. You've yet to really say much about my former inquiry. I never said Feitan was the weakest. I only said it's reasonable to believe he's one of the more weaker members.

Even without kanmuru, Killua's still incredibly fast and powerful. People often forget that Killua was able to push a 16 ton door at the start of the series, even managing to break free from Phinks's grasp during the Yorknew City arc. It's more difficult to scale speed in this series but it's evident that he's many times faster than Feitan when he is in kanmuru, which is in fact, an incredibly practical ability during a 1v1 fight. And if this series clings to its realism then the fight should end in a flash, literally.



So that's all conjecture basically. Last time I remembered, this was shortly after Heaven's Arena where both Gon and Killua didn't really go through any physical training. However, right before Heaven's Arena they did have to reach the Zoldyck estate and open the testing door. Gon beat Shizuku during the arm wrestling and even Nobunaga and remember that it took him, Leorio & Kurapika just to 2 doors which is the equivalent of 8 tons. Killua pushed all doors at the equivalent of 16 tons so we don't even know his capacity in strength because of that. And this was long before Greed Island & The CA arc where they both went through intense physical training.

His nen capacity isn't there yet because he didn't do any damage against Youpi? Well did anyone really do any damage to him? Apples and oranges clearly, if you're comparing a fight against a royal guards and a fight against that fake ant queen. I also don't think Feitan would've been able to damage Youpi either, at least not without his most impractical ability that wouldn't mean much in a realistic battle to the death. Youpi would probably one shot him even before he had the chance to use it.

Not entirely sure how much more relevant Feitan could've been if he wasn't rusty, tbh. The fake ant queen wasn't even in her final form yet, too, so there's also that argument. And regarding what you said about Kalluto, well that's just conjecture too, we honestly don't know how strong he feels in comparison to the rest of his family.

Lol, Killua would be far beyond Feitan's level if he kept training for a few years. I think the direction Togashi's taking with his character right now with Alluka is proof that Killua's already developed into a top-tier fighter. That's another argument in itself, but after reading an interview with Togashi saying that there's only 3 arcs left, I think it's reasonable to believe that.

vedatsvet said:
I already provided you with an answer in my first post which was based on realism. That was the difference in aura contained. Killua might be able to land some attacks which ultimately won't be enough, and Feitan is very fast himself. That's it, it's really that simple.

Nikki_Z said:


Alright, so you basically can't come up with anything now, got it. What's simple is that considering Kanmuru makes Killua lightning fast, he would land all of his hits. Feitan obviously wouldn't be fast enough to dodge either. Logically speaking, it's as simple as that.

vedatsvet said:
For the love of GOD.....Should I spell it for you? Aura contained and aura per attack. Learn what that means and stop bugging me. Here is a simple math, let's say Killua does 1000 aura per lighting attack, which is generous and no way near reality, he will make 8 hits with his ability which is 8000 dmg, after that he is done. Now, how much aura do you think Feitan has?????????????

Nikki_Z said:


That would imply that Feitan's aura is greater, which is wholly arguable considering the current stage of the story. No need to be so acrimonious, remember that we don't know if Killua went into that fight wanting to kill Youpi. There's also the option of snapping someone's neck during a fight. A fight to the death I'm sure. There's no real defense against that is there?

vedatsvet said:
man you can't be serious. It's like you understand nothing of nen or I don't know why your assumptions are so off. Feitan's aura IS greater, by the sheer fact of the difference in experience, age and Beng a Troupe Member (you yourself pointed out the realism of the series, so it's only realistic to assume this to be true, it is the same as you would assume that Hisoka, Chrollo, Ging, Illumi, Morel have more aura than freaking Killua). He can't kill Youpi he knew that before even beginning the fight thats why he was "just blowing off some steam". How in the world is he going to break someone's neck during a fight? And yes there is a defense it's called Nen.

John6977 said:


Completely agree. The Troup are monsters it's been cited many times how are strong and dangerous they are. So far as what we've seen there at the top along with the Zodiacs and a couple of other people, there master nen users. Gon and Killua aren't master nen users. Hell Knuckle and Shoot proved how much more Gon and Killua need to learn. There just not at that level yet. Hell Feitan would probably kill Knuckle and Shoot let alone Killua and Gon. And Killua's God speed is strong but it has its weakness or else it would be to OP. The attack is built for SPEED it has it in the name. As for power not so much and like I said as of right now it don't appear Killua can use the ability very long.

Nikki_Z said:
Probably the weakest argument. There's no proof that Killua went into the fight, wanting to actually kill Youpi. People so easily forget that Killua's finger tips essentially turn into blades. Did we see that application during his use of kanmuru? No. If you read what vedatsvet wrote, or have a definite understanding of nen, than you'd know that Youpi's nen capacity as a royal guard trumps Feitans. And if you read anything I wrote then you would understand how impractical Feitan's ability is. And also, why don't you think Killua would get 8 hits in (though, tbh, it's really just one)? He's obviously much faster than Feitan.

vedatsvet said:

man you can't be serious. It's like you understand nothing of nen or I don't know why your assumptions are so off. Feitan's aura IS greater, by the sheer fact of the difference in experience, age and Beng a Troupe Member (you yourself pointed out the realism of the series, so it's only realistic to assume this to be true, it is the same as you would assume that Hisoka, Chrollo, Ging, Illumi, Morel have more aura than freaking Killua). He can't kill Youpi he knew that before even beginning the fight thats why he was "just blowing off some steam". How in the world is he going to break someone's neck during a fight? And yes there is a defense it's called Nen.