| I don't buy manga anymore. It's too expensive (in NZ it's close to $30 a volume last I checked, fuck that shit) and I don't have the space. I also don't tend to reread stuff, so I don't want to spend money on something I'm only gonna flip through once and maybe not like. If I had the storage and the money, I'd buy more. But as it is... nah. I'd rather read scans. I also don't trust official translations (although scanlations are usually pretty shit too). |
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| Manga's too expensive. The only manga I own is Nausicaa, and that's because the set is of high quality and a good deal at forty dollars. I had also read it previously. Forty dollars for a volume is nuts. I'll just read scans. It's not ideal, but they don't give me a choice. |
| Has your willingness to purchase manga changed over time, perhaps as a byproduct of growing older and starting to make money (or more money) to spend on hobbies like comics? My willingness to purchase manga hasn't changed over time, the money I can spend has, so I can now afford more manga. Has the relatively recent, increasing availability of printed titles in the West affected how much manga you purchase? Yes, I can now purchase a lot of titles that weren't available to me before, either in my own city, or by getting them online at a low price. Do you try before you buy? Or once you've read a series that's it, who the hell would buy it AFTER they've read it?! It depends, usually I try before I buy, it can range from either reading the first volume online, and if I see the volume on a bookstore I start buying it, I usually start from the first volume even if I already read it. But if I read a series along the years, if it became one of my favorites I start buying the volumes until I have it complete. I love to re-read series after some time so I don't think it's a bad investment. What about official digital distribution channels through Crunchyroll or Viz? Has that affected your pirating at all? I usually don't read things at Crunchyroll, but I have taken advantage of their free trial to read a series that I was interested in. I prefer to read manga online (for free), and if I like it enough, and I can, I'll buy it. Has availability in your native language, such as seeing lots of shelves in Barnes & Noble of English manga, affected your purchasing? Or is it more complicated than that? It has, before I had to search for something I wanted to buy, so I spent less, now they present me with a lot of options and who am I to say no? Is manga in the west too damn expensive compared to the amount of content you could get in a Western graphic novel for the same price? I don't read Western graphic novels, but I don't think that 10-15 dollars is too much for a volume, and in my native language, that is Spanish (I usually buy in English), each volume costs like 5 dollars. PS: Not to be mean or anything, but buying used manga may be good for you, for the lower prices, but they don't really help the industry, apart from maybe making you want to buy new manga after you read it used or something, the same way as scanlations. |
| I've thought about just buying everything on kindle... But 10 dollars a volume is steep for something that's not a serious book... |
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| I usually purchase it, because here you can get a volume of manga from between £5-£10 In store, so they aren't really that expensive. Plus if you get them online you can get them cheaper (usually around £1-£6) I do read scanlations sometimes though. Some manga are not available to buy here (i.e. Not published in english), or it's a long running series and I just don't have the money to buy 15+ volumes of a manga all at once. You can get some great deals on used manga. Most of the time they are good quality too and relatively cheap. Or you could borrow volumes from a Libary, though they usually have a very limited selection. |
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| Has your willingness to purchase manga changed over time, perhaps as a byproduct of growing older and starting to make money (or more money) to spend on hobbies like comics? No, i've already bought manga when i was a kid. Now i just spent more money to buy more manga. Has the relatively recent, increasing availability of printed titles in the West affected how much manga you purchase? West as in America? No. West as in Europe? Sure. Without Tokyopop i probably wouldn't be buying as many manga as i'm doing right now.. Do you try before you buy? Or once you've read a series that's it, who the hell would buy it AFTER they've read it?! Try as in "read a few chapters online and then switch to the official release"? No, when buying manga i either start a new series (e.g. the ancient magus bride or blue exorcist) and read only the official physical volumes or i re-read manga i'm up-to-date or finished with.. (boku no hero academia, shokugeki no souma,..). If the manga was good (and that should be the case when buying an already read manga) i want to support the series/publisher/mangaka/etc hence i'll buy the physical volumes after reading them. I have set the rule that i have to read each volume i buy before putting them in my shelf. Re-Reading a good manga is never a bad idea^^ What about official digital distribution channels through Crunchyroll or Viz? Has that affected your pirating at all? No. They don't really exist in Germany or have a small selection. I now that Crunchyroll has some manga available in Germany as well but it's kinda hidden. Finding them is already a tough job and since i don't like the player/reader i stick with the "classic" scanlations. Has availability in your native language, such as seeing lots of shelves in Barnes & Noble of English manga, affected your purchasing? Or is it more complicated than that? I probably wouldn't have bought manga as a kid if the stores wouldn't have offered them. Maybe i wouldn't be buying manga now, maybe i'd buy them as ebooks and maybe i wouldn't be reading at all... or maybe nothing would have changed.... Is manga in the west too damn expensive compared to the amount of content you could get in a Western graphic novel for the same price? I don't read western graphic novels so don't even know the price, quality or amount of content they offer but i don't think manga are expensive (in Germany). 5€-15€ per volume is definitely a fair deal. I actually prefer paying more money to get manga with better quality. Earlier this month boku no hero academia(vol1) has been released. I've paid 7€ (within the normal price range of "Carlsen Manga") but i would have loved to spent 10€ or more if "Tokyopop" would have released it |
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| Honestly I only pirate manga if there is zero Western release. I normally buy mine legitimately or get it from the library (the o e at school is where I rented Sakamoto actually, loving it by the way). However if a series is that good I'll buy it to help me learn Japanese like with Bokura no Hentai (should've only bought the first volume though, I only have $2 left on my gift card and I don't have Amazon Prime). The main reason I do this is because unlike anime, manga is actually pretty cheap and affordable, most of the time it's in only in the single Dodgers. Some exceptions of course like Tomie being over $100 for a used copy ,but if not for the fact a new, cheaper one is coming out on Christmas I'd just save or pirate it (still haven't though, really want to read it though LOVE the premise) |
CowboyChamploo said: I first read Nausicaa six years ago. If I had first read it only recently, I wouldn't have bought it yet. I'll probably read it again several years from now. If you enjoyed something, why would you not wanna experience it again? Sometimes you discover more. It's also nice to see the art again without it being a low quality scan.Do you try before you buy? Or once you've read a series that's it, who the hell would buy it AFTER they've read it?! There are several others I've read that I wanna own physically, but they're too expensive. |
| Has your willingness to purchase manga changed over time, perhaps as a byproduct of growing older and starting to make money (or more money) to spend on hobbies like comics? I wasn't really into manga all that much until I was already older and making my own money. Before that I would just borrow whatever my friends had to read. Has the relatively recent, increasing availability of printed titles in the West affected how much manga you purchase? It sure doesn't hurt! Having a wide selection of titles available in my native language of course makes things easier. Therefor I am willing to spend more! Do you try before you buy? Or once you've read a series that's it, who the hell would buy it AFTER they've read it?! I have "tried before I buy" before, legally of course. But I have a horrible habit of bling buying. Or buying only based off whats on the back or a short synopsis. I hasn't bitten me in the ass...yet! What about official digital distribution channels through Crunchyroll or Viz? Has that affected your pirating at all? Maybe 1% of the manga I read is online, and it has always been legal. Has availability in your native language, such as seeing lots of shelves in Barnes & Noble of English manga, affected your purchasing? Or is it more complicated than that? 9 times out of 10 I order my manga from online sites. I am always looking to save a few bucks. But that doesn't stop me from browsing the shelves at my local Barnes & Noble. Hell sometimes my impatience takes over and I will even buy something form them! It helps that I have a membership there though. Is manga in the west too damn expensive compared to the amount of content you could get in a Western graphic novel for the same price? Since I mostly buy manga online, I hardly ever pay full price even for new volumes. Still though, I would be willing to pay it. I enjoy supporting the industry that I love. If I couldn't afford it, I wouldn't buy it! |
| Has your willingness to purchase manga changed over time, perhaps as a byproduct of growing older and starting to make money (or more money) to spend on hobbies like comics? I buy more now because I'm still into the medium, I just got into manga reading, and I have money to support this hobby without there being a hole in my pocket. Has the relatively recent, increasing availability of printed titles in the West affected how much manga you purchase? Yes, I bought some manga not too long ago that I thought was ok and just bought it because of the synopsis. Do you try before you buy? Or once you've read a series that's it, who the hell would buy it AFTER they've read it?! A bit of both I'll read and if I like it I'll support the author and buy it or something like the answer to the above question What about official digital distribution channels through Crunchyroll or Viz? Has that affected your pirating at all? Not really but I do watch some anime on mal. Has availability in your native language, such as seeing lots of shelves in Barnes & Noble of English manga, affected your purchasing? Or is it more complicated than that? I hate Barnes & nobles because it's usually in some really good neighborhood but that usally means every one there drives like a drunk 5 year old <.< I'll buy it from amazon or walmart ty very much. Is manga in the west too damn expensive compared to the amount of content you could get in a Western graphic novel for the same price? lol no I dislike western comics "Oh look thor came back to life! for the 69th time...." just egh I drove around 40 miles to the store and back for the newest volume of Witchcraft Works |
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| Has your willingness to purchase manga changed over time, perhaps as a byproduct of growing older and starting to make money (or more money) to spend on hobbies like comics? I think it has increased, I think the main factors are that many interesting series get licensed and that I make more money than in my first few years of buying manga. Has the relatively recent, increasing availability of printed titles in the West affected how much manga you purchase? In my country (Germany) it's not that recent, we've had a pretty good availability for years now. Many interesting series available means I can buy more, so it is affecting me. Do you try before you buy? Or once you've read a series that's it, who the hell would buy it AFTER they've read it?! It depends. In the past I bought more without reading any preview and usually I liked the series I bought, with a few exceptions that I regret buying. Now I often read online first to try out the series. If I like it then I buy it and switch to reading the bought volumes. I also often buy it even if I have read the entire series. Why? I'm a collector, it looks nice in my bookshelves :3 And I like re-reading stuff I liked. I would say trying out series online made me buy even more because otherwise I probably wouldn't have found out about certain series. What about official digital distribution channels through Crunchyroll or Viz? Has that affected your pirating at all? I haven't tried them yet. Has availability in your native language, such as seeing lots of shelves in Barnes & Noble of English manga, affected your purchasing? Or is it more complicated than that? As said before, we have a great availability of manga here and it makes me buy more because it's easily accessible. Is manga in the west too damn expensive compared to the amount of content you could get in a Western graphic novel for the same price? I don't read Western graphic novels so I can't compare them. I think most prices are fair in my country (sometimes I buy English manga and they're more expensive). Sometimes I think the price for some series is too high, but I usually buy it anyway if I like it. |
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| I used to buy my manga when I was younger, but a lot of the titles that I like are never licensed in English so I can't buy them. I've honestly cut back on my manga consumption between not having the titles I like in English and the lack of updated scans on the internet. I'll check out some titles from the library if I like the series and I haven't finished it though. Libraries aren't piracy, right? |
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| I once upon a time bought manga, however there are quite a few problems with it. 1) It is expensive. And we aren't talking just manga in general is expensive, rather after it goes through translation, they jack up the price like 250%. Sorry, but something you read in an hour shouldn't cost the same as a best selling novel. (let's put it this way, that guy working at the bookstore that sells the manga, would have to work for about 1 1/2 hours to afford 1 volume of manga which would take about 1 hour to read) 2) Selection. One of the best things about manga is there are many subjects or types of stories not covered in anime . . . However official translations for manga don't usually touch upon anything that isn't Shounen Jump or other series that have anime. 3) Quality. Those same guys who are charging $10-12 for a volume of manga are doing a rather shitty job . . . Their translators are relatively lazy (onigiri = donut for example). And they are usually printed on cheap, small paper that is already gray so you are left with low contrast and a shrunken image. (this makes it relatively hard to read, and what really bothered me was they didn't leave space on the page for the binding, so a good part of the image is cut off and to read it you pretty much destroy the binding) Honestly though, I don't consider it "piracy", or rather ethically wrong, in many cases the manga was never even translated into English in the first place other than by people online. Do they think that people who can't speak Japanese would have rushed over to Japan, bought manga they couldn't read, and been happy with it? Do they honestly believe they are losing sales in these instances? Cause I sure as hell don't. Even those that they do translate, they leave it to third parties which then turn around and charge an arm and a leg for it . . . |
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| My general thoughts on buying vs pirating: 1) If you can, use a library. It's free for you (assuming you return it on time) and more rentals = libraries buying more copies of that vol and future vols. You get it for free, industry still gets some support. Of course, I also realize some libraries are terrible at manga supply and variety. 2) Try to buy new if you can. Maybe rent from the library first to determine what you really want to throw support behind. Wait for sales, either online or at Barnes & Nobles or something, it'll help reduce the price for you. 3) If you can't buy new, try to trade it with someone or buy used. At least that one was bought new at one point in time. 4) If something is way out of print or not licensed here or not finished, then I say it's fair game for scans. I mean, is anyone going to ever license Space Adventure Cobra? It's Shonen Jump, so only Viz can legally get it for the US, but Viz almost certainly won't get it because it's too old and not Jojo (which has a new anime boosting its popularity). And will anyone ever finish Swan? I doubt it. For the actual asked questions Has your willingness to purchase manga changed over time, perhaps as a byproduct of growing older and starting to make money (or more money) to spend on hobbies like comics? I always had a pretty good willingness to buy manga. It slowed during college (because where would I put that in a dorm?) with some increase during the summers at home, naturally. My first few Otakons, I got at least 50 manga, but since there's not as much out of print stuff I wanna get and the comic shop having a good supply of new stuff, I bought like, 4 manga this past Otakon. Though having a job helps, and selling stuff I'm done with online helps too. Has the relatively recent, increasing availability of printed titles in the West affected how much manga you purchase? The biggest factor is the local comic shop, which has good selection and frequent half off sales! Back when I was younger (and stupider), I'd spend like, $20 on two manga at Borders without even using a coupon, then I'd start using coupons and getting like 1 a week, but now I can get way more manga for $20. It's based more on their availability, they tend to get things at random (because Diamond), so sometimes, nothing for a few weeks, then, BAM! I just spent $150. Do you try before you buy? Or once you've read a series that's it, who the hell would buy it AFTER they've read it?! Sometimes I try before I buy if I'm really unsure or the blogs I follow were "meh" on the early vols (sometimes they'll warm up to them). I also blind buy a lot of vol 1s (and trade them to friends for other things later). If I'm done with something, on to ebay or friends it is. But some things I am always going to keep because I've read Banana Fish 4 times and it's still worth re-reading. Some things are, some things aren't worth re-reading, just like some movies are worth seeing, some are worth seeing twice, and some aren't even worth finishing. What about official digital distribution channels through Crunchyroll or Viz? Has that affected your pirating at all? I like physical books, I don't pay for either site and I don't really buy digital manga. But I am glad the options exist, who knows when I'll jump on that bandwagon (I thought I'd never buy digital only games at one point, pfft!) Has availability in your native language, such as seeing lots of shelves in Barnes & Noble of English manga, affected your purchasing? Or is it more complicated than that? I usually buy from my local comic shop (because they have half off manga and trade sales all the damn time), but when I look and go "oh, look, a random new volume 1 for $5-$6.50! Sure, I'll buy that, even though I have no idea what it is!", but I never impulse buy at full price. And then, since I do keep up with English releases pretty damn closely and follow some manga blogs, I also know when weird obscure stuff comes out that B&N won't carry in their store. Honestly, the only reason I actually go into the B&N is to window shop, which would sound like a waste of time to a normal person, except it's right next to the grocery store anyway. Is manga in the west too damn expensive compared to the amount of content you could get in a Western graphic novel for the same price? Ok, as someone who buys Western comics, manga is typically cheaper. While Image and Valiant have $10 introductory vols, most are $15 from there on. Hell, some are $20 a pop or more. And if you try to buy those in single issue form, typically $3-$4 each x5, no, manga is cheaper imo. |
| I don't have any money, but if I did, I think I'll buy my favorites. I definitely wanna buy Hajime no Ippo (all volumes released so far, imagine that) even though it's not licensed (why?). I'm definitely not buying something I haven't read as money is scarce for me and I ain't wasting it on stuff I'm not sure I'd like (despite the fact that I constantly waste money on food I've never tasted before --primary reason for my obesity--, though they're mostly very cheap and there's no other way to sample them). I do, however, own 8 of the 12 volumes of Death Note, which I bought off a friend of mine 8 years ago. He was selling it for cheap (500 mrf for the entire lot when 1 volume costed 119 mrf). I swear that guy has too much money. I bought the entire Harry Potter collection for the same price (Deathly Hallows was selling for over 200 mrf at the time) and downloaded the entirety of Code Geass (which I downloaded because he asked me to) for 25 mrf an episode (I said it as a joke and he said he'll pay). To put it into perspective, 1 US dollar was around 12.85 mrf at the time. |
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| If you like it, you buy it. It's a pretty simple rule that anyone can abide by. |
| I HAVE TWO RULES: RULE ONE: I'M ALWAYS RIGHT RULE TWO: IF I'M WRONG, REFER TO RULE ONE... |
| Er, I am not sure if here is considered the West in this case, so I probably don't fit in the statistics. But it matters little anyway, since I don't buy manga and would avoid buying it until I can. It's been an additional hobby to me (I consider may main to be gaming, which I maintain legal), and I've grown accustomed to online scans, I don't want to change my habits. I am not even sure it's technically illegal for me, since most of the stuff I read is unlicenced in my country. I'd started to read manga years before it was broadly available around here, and my habits have formed. Most libraries do not offer manga as well (I've recently heard about one that does). Buying abroad is too expensive with the current exchnge rates to be in the question with any degree of seriousness. I consider myself an outside irrelevant consumer and don't seek to affect market or anything with my decisions. |
| Has your willingness to purchase manga changed over time, perhaps as a byproduct of growing older and starting to make money (or more money) to spend on hobbies like comics? Well, my manga buying has definitely increased from 0 volumes per month at 15 to buying 10 volumes last month now that I'm 20. Having a little control over your money is awesome since it lets you waste it on things that you've already read and reread over and over again. Not that I regret it. Has the relatively recent, increasing availability of printed titles in the West affected how much manga you purchase? Here in India, manga is pretty expensive. It costs around 500rs (7-8$) for a volume and even though I have no idea if 7-8$ is expensive, 500rs is definitely a bit too much for something that takes one hour to read. I guess it's become cheaper recently though? There's volumes online for 350-400rs as well so I guess that means I get to spend more money. Plus there are series that I definitely would not have seen on Amazon India two months ago that are apparently selling really fast now. It's brilliant. Maybe in a year or two I'll be able to buy manga from an actual store!! Since there are more series available now, I want a volume or two of everything that's available. Earlier, I was happy with a few volumes of the Big Three decorating my bookshelf (decorating because no one picked them up). Now I have 17 series and it's nowhere near enough. Since it's become cheaper, I'm more free with my money. Instead of 'splurging' and buying 30$ worth of manga in a year, I've graduated to spending 120$ (wisely) this year. And the year's not over so I'm not done yet. YAY ECONOMICS!!! Do you try before you buy? Or once you've read a series that's it, who the hell would buy it AFTER they've read it?! As for why anyone would want to buy manga after they've read it, because I love that manga. I have the complete set of FMA and Death Note. Purchased years after I'd read those series simply because looking at those books and those boxes makes me extremely happy. Looking at my Haikyuu volumes takes me back to my happy time as a NEET when I didn't have to worry about studying and working. The only time I took a 'risk' was buying a volume of D-Gray Man without actually having read the manga yet. I don't regret it, but it wasn't something I looked forward to either. I'm simply not attached to the book enough. Plus, there's just this little nagging thing telling me to support the creators in whatever way I can. I'm not really sure how much buying english volumes helps japanese authors, but I'm sure it helps more than piracy does so that's good enough. Hasn't really stopped me from pirating though. Buying all the manga I read would force me out onto the streets, and then where would I keep all my volumes?? What about official digital distribution channels through Crunchyroll or Viz? Has that affected your pirating at all? Crunchyroll and Viz are both pretty pathetic in India so I didn't bother with those. They're useless. Worse. I shouldn't really talk about that. But they suck. Is manga in the west too damn expensive compared to the amount of content you could get in a Western graphic novel for the same price? I've seen western comics sell for ~1000rs a volume (~14$) which is stupidly expensive. Manga isn't a LOT better, but it is better than those. |
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| Yeh, manga is quite expensive so I read online (whether it is considered piracy or not) unless i really like the series then i might buy it if its available in the nearest bookstore. helps the mangaka. |
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| Well, you will get an idea of my relationship with mangas looking at the spoiler Has your willingness to purchase manga changed over time, perhaps as a byproduct of growing older and starting to make money (or more money) to spend on hobbies like comics? Nope, I always loved getting more mangas/novel, and I'm okay finance wise. I don't really care much for comics, tbh. I like reading them here and there, like at someone's house or something, but I wouldn't get out of my way to get one. What I don't like about comics is that they are confusing with many timelines, reboots and such, you have no idea where to even start, and I find them majorly unfocused compared to any opther medium. Has the relatively recent, increasing availability of printed titles in the West affected how much manga you purchase? Not really, because I get some french ones where I live and import the rest, mostly series that haven'T been translated officialy in french or english. Do you try before you buy? Or once you've read a series that's it, who the hell would buy it AFTER they've read it?! This is an interesting question. I'll check out a few chapter online if I' not sure what the series is about, but I can usualy tell what I will or won't like with a few summary or the mangaka/author or small review. Things like that. I haven't read something online in a long while, outside a few mangas I'm buying but want to know what's happening before getting it xD (I like rereading a lot btw) What about official digital distribution channels through Crunchyroll or Viz? Has that affected your pirating at all? I literealy have no opinion about that, because it doesn't concern me in any way shape or form. Has availability in your native language, such as seeing lots of shelves in Barnes & Noble of English manga, affected your purchasing? Or is it more complicated than that? I'm not sure I'm following the question. You want to know if I'm seeing large amount of available mangas in my native language would get me to buy more? Sure... I guess. But they take forever and a half to get translated in french, and then it takes even more weeks to get shipped to Quebec ._. So yes.. and no...? I'm not even sure what I'm saying here xD Is manga in the west too damn expensive compared to the amount of content you could get in a Western graphic novel for the same price? Well, considering most japanese mangas I buy are in between 400 and 700¥, they are like twice the price in Cana-Dollar, so they're not TOO expensive, considering the work on translation and all that crap it has to go through. It actualy seems like a reasonnable price compared to some price I've seen in this thread. |
Has your willingness to purchase manga changed over time, perhaps as a byproduct of growing older and starting to make money (or more money) to spend on hobbies like comics? I started collecting last year so...No. It hasn't really changed. Has the relatively recent, increasing availability of printed titles in the West affected how much manga you purchase? I purchase second hand manga so I don't buy recent titles at all.Do you try before you buy? Or once you've read a series that's it, who the hell would buy it AFTER they've read it?! On the most part, I buy series that I have read online already. I collect because I want to own my fave series and would re-read it. I rarely blind buy (purchase without reading it).What about official digital distribution channels through Crunchyroll or Viz? Has that affected your pirating at all? I don't buy digital goods if there's no physical aspect.Is manga in the west too damn expensive compared to the amount of content you could get in a Western graphic novel for the same price? Yes, it is. That's why I purchase second hand at 3-5 CAD per volume. |
| I spent some time searching for the best place to buy translated manga thats approx <10$ for volume and found http://www.bookdepository.com/ Bought 5 volumes of TG and 1 of Shokugeki no souma, all arrived in PERFECT condition (all new manga) in under 2 weeks (depends tho on where you live but it shouldn't take over 20 days unless you on a moon or something xP). Free delivery worldwide don't forget that as well. Tho I will only buy stuff that I REALLY like to have for my collection. |
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| If I were to buy all the volumes I have read during my "reading career", I would be broke many times over... While they are not as expensive as some other users have the misfortune to experience, they still cost about 15 dollars each. I am currently at 3'501 volumes. So I read scanlations most of the time. However, I still buy manga I really liked during my bi-annual stay in Japan. |
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| I don't have much money and there aren't a lot of places to purchase manga at a good price in my area (just a second-hand bookshop, where it's odd to find complete manga series xD), and ordering them online is not a possibility for me. However, sometimes I buy manga at conventions or ,if I have the possibility and the money, at a specialized bookshop. But yeah, I usually read them online. |
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| Has your willingness to purchase manga changed over time, perhaps as a byproduct of growing older and starting to make money (or more money) to spend on hobbies like comics? When I was younger I'd just pick up the first volume of whatever looked neat leading to my collection being full of one or too volumes for things I never read. Now I only pick up books for series I'm already reading online instead of grabbing at random Has the relatively recent, increasing availability of printed titles in the West affected how much manga you purchase? Not really I actually buy less than before. Every once and awhile I'll take a look through amazon and be surprised at what's being released since I don't keep track anymore. Do you try before you buy? Or once you've read a series that's it, who the hell would buy it AFTER they've read it?! I always try before I buy if possible unless I can't find it online or I want to support more releases in the west by said author then I'm willing to buy it. Series that I find myself re-reading I'll buy otherwise no. What about official digital distribution channels through Crunchyroll or Viz? Has that affected your pirating at all? Even though I have a premium membership on crunchyroll I never use their stuff it looks horribly designed to me. So no it doesn't. Has availability in your native language, such as seeing lots of shelves in Barnes & Noble of English manga, affected your purchasing? Or is it more complicated than that? Honestly my local chapters doesn't have that much besides the bigger series and it is impossible to find the first volume of anything in there. If anything I just buy through amazon since it's usually cheaper and they usually have everything. Is manga in the west too damn expensive compared to the amount of content you could get in a Western graphic novel for the same price? Living in Canada is awful right now for getting anything cheap, not just manga. That's part of the reason I'm so stingy with my money when it comes to things I don't need. At least with manga there's a chance I might buy it but for stuff like anime hell no. If it's something I can't find online at all like Gundam origin or something like Maou: Juvenile Remix (great read) and isn't the length of one piece then I'll just grab it. Stuff with 10+ volumes I have to really like it if I'm picking it up. |
| I've bought exactly 2 mangas so far. First one was volume 1 of Terra Formars because it cost 1 euro. 2nd one was Shingeki no Kyojin. Even though I've already read it I decided to buy it because >I forgot most of the stuff that happened at the beginning and didn't mind immerging myself in story again >It was a neat special edition with huge ass pages and some extras >It's one of my fav mangas I wouldn't mind buying mangas I really like because I'd rather read a physical copy than having to read on my laptop, by far. Tho besides SnK I don't buy manga because  |
RVDASep 13, 2016 4:04 PM
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| I honestly don't really care that I am not exactly contributing in some from by buying what I love. But I have many good reasons not to. 1. I won't buy something unless it is worth it and valuable to my standards (in other words a favorite anime/manga) and to know that I need to read/watch them online first, instead of wasting my money by buying something I don't even know I will like. 2. It's a waste of money. I'm not rich yet where I can collect my favorite anime/manga for fun. 3. To me buying anime/manga, it's mostly a collection, to be proud of because it's a favorite and to reread/rewatch whenever I want to. ... Pretty much my reasons. Besides... most of the stats that help anime or manga become popular, rise or get cancelled or whatever is mainly in Japan. As for in general (world-wide) it's kinda mostly in the US. I live in Canada. Not like that's a good reason to not "contribute" ... but I stand for my reasons. |
| I would buy manga if a. it was cheaper and b. it was actually widely available where i live unfortunately due to me living in New Zealand neither of those are a real possibility. |
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| Most content in manga doesn't worth the price here, so it's better I read them illegally. and, there's no Viz Media here, just Tokyoshitpop |
| i purchase a ridiculous amount of manga considering how little I've read of my shelves. The only manga I've read through Crunchyroll is Orange with a Guest Pass. My favorite manga (Aku no Hana) I did read illegally, and I've always planned to purchase the series but for some reason bookstores either don't have it or only have volume 1. |
| "No, son, you may not have your body pillow at the dinner table!" |
| For me its very simple. Is it available in my country? Then purchase Is it available in english outside of my country? Depends on price, shipping etc. If it wasnt localized officialy into english then i will look for other illegal sources. |
| "relationship"? what? |
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| Since I don't have much money to afford, I only buy short manga series that I know I will re-read. I tried collecting ongoing series but it's a pain to track old volumes. |
"No matter how miserable your life becomes, never let your heart become miserable as well." |
| When I was younger I used to just pirate all my anime. (I didn't read manga at the time) Nowadays I have a Crunchyroll subscription and watch pretty much all my anime through that. I would never consider buying anime DVDs though. Don't know why, just seems pointless to me. As for manga, 95% of what I read is through physical volumes that I have paid for. I only ever consider reading online if the manga in question is ridiculously expensive or hard to get hold of. I like to sustain the industry if I can! |
CowboyChamploo said: Has your willingness to purchase manga changed over time, perhaps as a byproduct of growing older and starting to make money (or more money) to spend on hobbies like comics? It definitely has changed. I first started buying manga like 11 years ago (?) just because I got curious about it. Then after that I tried finishing the series (which I failed to complete since that time I was a broke student who buys with the money I saved from my daily allowance and now the publisher is already defunct). But now that I have work and able to budget my income, I can buy mangas as much as I can. CowboyChamploo said: Has the relatively recent, increasing availability of printed titles in the West affected how much manga you purchase? Definitely yes. Even though I don’t live in US the manga that are sold here are based on the manga publishers in the US and well in Japan as well but since I don’t and can’t read Japanese I could only depend on the US releases. CowboyChamploo said: Do you try before you buy? Or once you've read a series that's it, who the hell would buy it AFTER they've read it?! Most of the manga I bought are just from reading the synopsis on the back of the first volume or researching on the net. But some of the manga I have are those I have already read online. There are manga that I bought which I completely read online like Hirunaka no Ryuusei. Since I liked the story and it’s not licensed in the US, I have decided to buy the Japanese manga to give support to the mangaka. I have previously read STROBE EDGE as well before buying the physical copy. CowboyChamploo said: What about official digital distribution channels through Crunchyroll or Viz? Has that affected your pirating at all? I’m not really into digital distributors. I would have preferred the DVD if only I can afford it but since it’s more expensive I just opt to watch the anime online that are fansubbed. CowboyChamploo said: Has availability in your native language, such as seeing lots of shelves in Barnes & Noble of English manga, affected your purchasing? Or is it more complicated than that? I don’t buy in Barnes & Noble. CowboyChamploo said: Is manga in the west too damn expensive compared to the amount of content you could get in a Western graphic novel for the same price? I’m not really sure since I don’t buy Western graphic novel and I’m not interested as well. |
| I purchase the manga that I like online or if they have an English copy in my country then I will buy it. Sometimes I buy E-books copies too, if they are available. |
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| Really, topic from last 2 months got bumped? The 'Manga Discussion' SF is so dead lol. Btw, I do both. Read the manga online as well as buying the comics. |
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| Ive got no problem with scantalations and all that. I actually feel that its good for the industry here in the west, since manga is still a 'niche' interest over here so pirated stuff actually serves as good advertising. I myself have ended up buying physical manga and figures and stuff of series that ive read the scans for. I genuinely believe thats the reason why the law isnt particuarly hard on manga piracy. Manga publishers must know of the bigger scanlation sites since WE all know them, but in most cases they tend to leave them alone since they know that in the longer run it will get more people into manga and therefore higher chance of selling merchandise to a greater number of people. |
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