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| Ok episode, 2nd half of the episode with Miyu was done really well but the first half was a mess with poor animation, choppy scene transitions and skipping out some things, hopefully this was just a one-off. Would of been 3/5 but revealing THAT drops it down to 2/5 disappointed in you silver link I expected better. |
| Maaaaan. So good. As someone already said this is the slowest/weakest part of Illya. Especially the next few chapters iirc. But after that it's a rollercoaster of epicness. I seriously can't wait! The expressions as usual were awesome but I noticed the animation wasn't as good this episode. Well I got triggered a bit BUT. I'm sure Silver Link will deliver in the end :3 |
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xCrazyChris11x said: Ok episode, 2nd half of the episode with Miyu was done really well but the first half was a mess with poor animation, choppy scene transitions and skipping out some things, hopefully this was just a one-off. Would of been 3/5 but revealing THAT drops it down to 2/5 disappointed in you silver link I expected better. Yeah, I also didn't get why they decided to spoil you-known-what this early on. It was supposed to be a big reveal during the climax. |
| Darius is OP. omg. Tanaka omg whoa Ilya became a doll |
| Man this was such a great episode, they really nailed the atmosphere and Darious' character so well in the anime, I just love that the anime is fully embracing the dark tonal shift the manga did and not trying to dumb it down with anime original comedy. Getting closer to that Fate/Stay Night feel (Which will hit full force later on). |
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| No wonder i felt like something is missing. ;( First half was kinda disappointed. Hope all this is for the last few episodes epicness. 3/5 |
| The doujins are writing themselves! 10/10 |
| MAL: A community that thinks every anime is bad, but rates everything a 7/10. |
| i can't really take that guy seriously so far, his "dark grin faces" were more cringey than anything else. |
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silverwalls said: i can't really take that guy seriously so far, his "dark grin faces" were more cringey than anything else. Even Erica agrees. I'm just going to say that it's intentionally that way. |
| From the close up of the lapid (16:23 min): … Julian. Άχρωμο ϕως που έχει καταϐάλει η διάβρωση Sakatsuki Miyu … κλαπεί στη Emiya Shirou … Τη ϕύση της όπως είχε … Αλλά ακόρ[ντα] [Θ λει] … ως ένα δοχείο Julian αποσπάσει το σκάϕος [α]πό χέρ[ια] Πάνω από τώρα Χρό[νος] απ[ ]ένει για αυτό ... Julian Colorless light weakened by corruption Sakatsuki Miyu … stolen by Emiya Shirou ... Her nature as [it] was … but chords Function as a vessel Julian diverts the ship from hands Up from now Time remains for it |
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| So they showed that early. Well the OP is already spoilerific as it is. |
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| dude thinks he's running a play he's crazy alright |
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Xarvon said: From the close up of the lapid (16:23 min): … Julian. Άχρωμο ϕως που έχει καταϐάλει η διάβρωση Sakatsuki Miyu … κλαπεί στη Emiya Shirou … Τη ϕύση της όπως είχε … Αλλά ακόρ[ντα] [Θ λει] … ως ένα δοχείο Julian αποσπάσει το σκάϕος [α]πό χέρ[ια] Πάνω από τώρα Χρό[νος] απ[ ]ένει για αυτό ... Julian Colorless light weakened by corruption Sakatsuki Miyu … stolen by Emiya Shirou ... Her nature as [it] was … but chords Function as a vessel Julian diverts the ship from hands Up from now Time remains for it I just realized that the myth is written in Modern Greek, which doesn't make sense because myths are more associated with Ancient Greek. Oh well. |
| So Darius is super strong and is no easy person to defeat which is why Miyu believes that saving her is near impossible. But since Illya is the same loli who defeated Gilgamesh who just took in the Holy Grail and was also incredibly strong, Miyu is inclined to think that she might be saved. Darius is the one who started the Holy Grail War here and he made those hero summoning cards. Along with that he has noble phantasm like things with him. One thing already determined in the last episode was that noble phantasms aren't only swords or spears or chains, they can be other things too as the onsen was because of a noble phantasm. Darius having noble phantasms Gil doesn't know about either means that they were obscure ones which didn't catch Gilgamesh's attention and Darius modified them or something, or that Darius made noble phantasm like things which aren't noble phantasms, but are very similar, just like Bazette's weapon which pierces the heart when the opponent is using his/her strongest move. And Tanaka is pretty mysterious even now. She's hot. Not the "sekushi" hot, but the "hyperthermia" hot. And she said "Counterfeiter" which could mean that either she has a power to make copies of some ability or something, or neutralize that ability by doing something exactly opposite, or that Darius is a counterfeiter i.e he makes replicas of stuff, much like Kuro (Archer), or maybe, that wasn't really Darius at all and was some imitation or something because while leaving he changed shape and turned into someone looking like a highschooler, and that person is a counterfeit whom we see in the end of the opening sequence right before Illya is using Excalibur. We see Darius and that high school like person in the opening sequence which is making me inclined to believe that they are two different people. (Or maybe that is Darius' power after all, making replicas or imitations.) I doubt Tanaka's power is only being hot because I don't think she can survive Thor's hammer and not be injured by just being a little too warm. Or maybe her being hot is because she's fired up lol. Tanaka seems to remember stuff when she's with the Ainsworths. And Erica seems to be a nice girl, but she's an enemy so she's bad. But she seems to genuinely care about Miyu and she did kinda like Illya. And Miyu has taken a bit of a liking to her. And that ritual or whatever which was going on with Miyu on the stone slab or whatever, started off looking like she was about to be raped by Darius lol. And it seems that those stiff coming on the big slabs are Miyu's memories because they had "Illya" written there. And that's probably how Darius came to know all about those around Illya. And Gil was busy eating mapo while the girls were getting their butts kicked by Darius lol. They really did a good job in showing how overpowered Darius is. Illya will have to come up with a plan to defeat this creepy strong guy if she wants to save Miyu. And Illya has gone off to somewhere in the rain while everyone was sleeping. Is she going to be turned into a stuffed toy or something? Or did she leave that stuffed toy in her place? What was with that next episode preview? |
suikaMUSIC said: I just realized that the myth is written in Modern Greek, which doesn't make sense because myths are more associated with Ancient Greek. Oh well. Remember google translate does not has an ancient greek option and the probability of anyone within a 100 kilometre radius of silver link headquarters knowing ancient greek is close to 0%. |
ReaperCreeper said: So they showed that early. Well the OP is already spoilerific as it is. They did not spoil or reveal anything. People who have not read the manga would not get it. |
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| Just another cringey crazy villain I see, probably would be even more cringey when he loses later |
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Fai said: Oh please, if Ufotable did something like that in UBW you'd still be finding a way to complain about it in every post.ReaperCreeper said: So they showed that early. Well the OP is already spoilerific as it is. They did not spoil or reveal anything. People who have not read the manga would not get it. |
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ReaperCreeper said: Fai said: Oh please, if Ufotable did something like that in UBW you'd still be finding a way to complain about it in every post.They did not spoil or reveal anything. People who have not read the manga would not get it. Except I only complain about legitimate problems and Ufotable had plenty of them, don't try to alter the narrative for the circlejerk needs :) |
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| I don't know what it is about this season, but it's really boring. It moves quickly and nothing that happens feels very significant because the whole plot is driven by deus ex machina. I know the Fate series is full of it--especially Fate Kaleid--but this story is so shallow that it feels like a children's anime. That's okay, I guess... but after all the fanservice and softcore yuri, it just comes off as perverted. I hope it cleans up towards the end. :/ I can't imagine how this trash is going to get animated for much longer. Maybe that's why it's looking so low budget... |
| ^Perfect example of someone trying so hard to bait that it becomes utterly obvious. |
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Fai said: There's a lot I can say about your legitimate complaints, but I'll refrain and just say, shoehorning it into every post is toxic and obnoxious. Never the less there's a clear hypocrisy towards how you react to differences from the source, or your headcanon, between the two adaptations. You don't think people saw that Darius fight coming completely predictable thanks to the OP? Now take what was added in this episode and what's shown in the OP and it goes from some foreshadowing, to almost outright just giving it away. Also never mind it goes against his established character, something you claim to care so much about. ReaperCreeper said: Oh please, if Ufotable did something like that in UBW you'd still be finding a way to complain about it in every post. Except I only complain about legitimate problems and Ufotable had plenty of them don't try to alter the narrative for the circlejerk needs :) Look who's talking, I disagree with you and you try to play it off as some harassment campaign. Not that I'm surprised by it. Speaking of which. Fai said: Perfect example of your delusions.^Perfect example of someone trying so hard to bait that it becomes utterly obvious. |
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| Well, I expected better. Ainsworth is lackluster villain and the way they are handling power levels is also disappointing. Be it Tanaka or Ainsworth ability to counter every phantasm. Seems like this series is making those things work as story sees fit. Miyu x Erika conversation was good I guess. But whatever Ainsworth transformation into Shinji(?) meant? |
| He is almost as crazy as Caster from Fate Zero |
| "I lost all of what you could call feelings of love. They weren't sealed, so they can't be released. They weren't broken, so they can't be fixed. That which is lost, cannot be recovered." Shiba Tatsuya "There are no regrets. If one can be proud of one's life, one should not wish for another chance." Saber "No matter what happens, no matter how crazy things get, I'll always try to restore balance." Korra "It's madness to let others take what's yours and accept it blindly." Baatar Jr "Instinct is a lie, told by a fearful body, hoping to be wrong." Zaheer "Partner in crime, partner in time" Chloe Price and Max Caulfield |
Mich666 said: Well, I expected better. Ainsworth is lackluster villain and the way they are handling power levels is also disappointing. Be it Tanaka or Ainsworth ability to counter every phantasm. Seems like this series is making those things work as story sees fit. Not really. Darius abilities make perfect sense in context. Tanaka makes perfect sense since anybody with even basic knowledge of nasuverse can already sort of guess who she is. |
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Fai said: Not really. Darius abilities make perfect sense in context. Tanaka makes perfect sense since anybody with even basic knowledge of nasuverse can already sort of guess who she is. You are talking out of position of someone who already read source material so of course you see it as obvious. But Prillya can be mess when dealing with Nasuverse logic. I'm not taking it too seriously and I enjoy it that way for example. And I bet there are many other viewers who knows Nasuverse and still aren't 100% sure what's going on. In fact, just reading some spoilerish hints and comments on these forums can make people realize some things way earlier than they would otherwise have if they just casually watched the series without any input. |
| I knew it! Tanaka is an irregular whose existence is a threat to Ainsworth? 4/5. |
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| Can we have a single bloody show without the villain being completely and totally insane, doing the ridiculous crazy laugh and babbling nonsense while simultaneously being ultra powerful and effective in spite of what should be a completely debilitating mental illness? |
| People said this episode was slow but for me i feel like 3rei is getting more interesting and mysterious right now. Darius is insane and really overpowered, as expected along with the other Ainsworths. Can't imagine what the hell Shirou did in this world against a 1v3 or something to free Miyu |
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| Suddenly, it's pretty fucking dark! Can't wait for the next episode. Definitely my favorite season of Loli/Fate by far! |
| Some parts were shorten, but overall the episode was good. I never hope for a full adaptation of anything, so I'm not bothered by this level of shortening in the anime. |
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BioMaster said: JustALEX said: by the end of this season it's no longer "Loli/Fate",it's GAR/FateSuddenly, it's pretty fucking dark! Can't wait for the next episode. Definitely my favorite season of Loli/Fate by far! Little do the anime-onlies know, but by the start of the next season, it's officially "Fate/stay night: the 4th route". |
astroprogs said: Well that's... disappointing?BioMaster said: by the end of this season it's no longer "Loli/Fate",it's GAR/Fate Little do the anime-onlies know, but by the start of the next season, it's officially "Fate/stay night: the 4th route". |
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talentlessash said: astroprogs said: Well that's... disappointing?Little do the anime-onlies know, but by the start of the next season, it's officially "Fate/stay night: the 4th route". If you value fanservice more than some really great storytelling, sure. |
astroprogs said: It's more I value the lighter tones and fun rather than the death and suffering stuff.talentlessash said: Well that's... disappointing? If you value fanservice more than some really great storytelling, sure. |
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talentlessash said: It's more I value the lighter tones and fun rather than the death and suffering stuff. I getcha. Well, i think that a bit of dark narrative elements help contrast the lighthearted ones. You just appreciate them more when you return to them. But yeah, i understand if this kind of story isn't to your taste, regardless. I just hope you give all of 3rei a chance, especialy the season after this one, because it's highly regarded amongst the Fate fans for a reason. I mean, look at MAL's rating for the three mangas: Original - 7.35 2wei - 7.66 3rei - 8.33 |
astroprogsAug 13, 2016 7:23 PM
astroprogs said: Of course. I'm not planning on giving up on a series when we're 4 seasons in, but I can't help be hesitant if 3rei is highly regarded by the fans who love Fate/Zero and Heavens Feel.talentlessash said: It's more I value the lighter tones and fun rather than the death and suffering stuff. I getcha. Well, i think that a bit of dark narrative elements help contrast the lighthearted ones. You just appreciate them more when you return to them. But yeah, i understand if this kind of story isn't to your taste, regardless. I just hope you give all of 3rei a chance, especialy the season after this one, because it's highly regarded amongst the Fate fans for a reason. I mean, look at MAL's rating for the three mangas: Original - 7.35 2wei - 7.66 3rei - 8.33 |
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talentlessash said: astroprogs said: Of course. I'm not planning on giving up on a series when we're 4 seasons in, but I can't help be hesitant if 3rei is highly regarded by the fans who love Fate/Zero and Heavens Feel.I getcha. Well, i think that a bit of dark narrative elements help contrast the lighthearted ones. You just appreciate them more when you return to them. But yeah, i understand if this kind of story isn't to your taste, regardless. I just hope you give all of 3rei a chance, especialy the season after this one, because it's highly regarded amongst the Fate fans for a reason. I mean, look at MAL's rating for the three mangas: Original - 7.35 2wei - 7.66 3rei - 8.33 I think the people who stuck around reading this manga, of all things Fate, and this far made it clear about their taste, haha. Anyone who actually thinks that dark and edgy elements are what make a good series wouldn't even finish the first anime season of Prisma Illya, let alone read the manga to its latest chapter. About the content itself, 3rei doesn't even revel in its suffering, trying to one up itself on how it can shock you next. It's the type of "dark" that you can appreciate and the type of tone that complements the other one instead of being forced, out of place and just for the sake of being there. |
astroprogs said: That sounds good. After all, it's not like the first 2 series were devoid of dark themes, it just had plenty of "cooling off" periods. Whereas it seems like we're in it for the long run here in 3rei.talentlessash said: Of course. I'm not planning on giving up on a series when we're 4 seasons in, but I can't help be hesitant if 3rei is highly regarded by the fans who love Fate/Zero and Heavens Feel. I think the people who stuck around reading this manga, of all things Fate, and this far made it clear about their taste, haha. Anyone who actually thinks that dark and edgy elements are what make a good series wouldn't even finish the first anime season of Prisma Illya, let alone read the manga to its latest chapter. About the content itself, 3rei doesn't even revel in its suffering, trying to one up itself on how it can shock you next. It's the type of "dark" that you can appreciate and the type of tone that complements the other one instead of being forced, out of place and just for the sake of being there. |
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talentlessash said: astroprogs said: That sounds good. After all, it's not like the first 2 series were devoid of dark themes, it just had plenty of "cooling off" periods. Whereas it seems like we're in it for the long run here in 3rei.I think the people who stuck around reading this manga, of all things Fate, and this far made it clear about their taste, haha. Anyone who actually thinks that dark and edgy elements are what make a good series wouldn't even finish the first anime season of Prisma Illya, let alone read the manga to its latest chapter. About the content itself, 3rei doesn't even revel in its suffering, trying to one up itself on how it can shock you next. It's the type of "dark" that you can appreciate and the type of tone that complements the other one instead of being forced, out of place and just for the sake of being there. True, true. Although, (and this is a very small and almost insignificant spoiler for the next couple of episodes, unless you just prefer to go in 100% blind) |
astroprogs said: Neat. I almost feel like I set up false expectations reading these forums talentlessash said: That sounds good. After all, it's not like the first 2 series were devoid of dark themes, it just had plenty of "cooling off" periods. Whereas it seems like we're in it for the long run here in 3rei. True, true. Although, (and this is a very small and almost insignificant spoiler for the next couple of episodes, unless you just prefer to go in 100% blind) |
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talentlessash said: astroprogs said: Neat. I almost feel like I set up false expectations reading these forums True, true. Although, (and this is a very small and almost insignificant spoiler for the next couple of episodes, unless you just prefer to go in 100% blind) I can see why TBH. About how dark 3rei gets, (HUGE spoilers for F/Z and HF's stories and atmosphere spoiler for 3rei) |
astroprogsAug 13, 2016 9:22 PM
astroprogs said: Oh that's fantastic. I can see why TBH. About how dark 3rei gets, (HUGE spoilers for F/Z and HF's stories and atmosphere spoiler for 3rei) If Illya did get to that point that would be unfortunate. |
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talentlessash said: astroprogs said: Oh that's fantastic. I can see why TBH. About how dark 3rei gets, (HUGE spoilers for F/Z and HF's stories and atmosphere spoiler for 3rei) If Illya did get to that point that would be unfortunate. True. Hiroyama's "dark" is generally of a different kind of Urobuchi's. Urobuchi usually hits the reader/viewer with the dark stuff early on in his stories and when they start to get desensitized by them, he doubles down and go further into the "fucked up" territory. The problem with that approach is that while the work is very emotionally charged, sooner or later, the dark elements just won't hold the same weight anymore for some people. Hiroyama, on the other hand, keeps the reader/viewer in a pink flowery world and get them to know and like the characters, so when he finally decides to introduce the darker elements, the slightest change will seem huge and the emotional impact, due to the contrast, would be really strong and feel more personal because you can really relate to those characters now. I think his short "Gorgon Double Flat" doujinshi of Hollow Ataraxia, which i really recommend you find and read BTW, describes that part of his work perfectly for me. 90% of the work is lighthearted fun, but when that small emotional part hits, it feels more powerful despite its simplicity. |
astroprogsAug 13, 2016 10:23 PM
astroprogs said: talentlessash said: That sounds good. After all, it's not like the first 2 series were devoid of dark themes, it just had plenty of "cooling off" periods. Whereas it seems like we're in it for the long run here in 3rei. True, true. Although, (and this is a very small and almost insignificant spoiler for the next couple of episodes, unless you just prefer to go in 100% blind) KEK talentlessash said: It's more I value the lighter tones and fun rather than the death and suffering stuff. Its good that FSN was not about death and suffering then! :) |
AhenshihaelAug 14, 2016 11:04 AM
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| Not that it matters for people like the Ainsworths, and Erica herself clearly forgot the important part: Illiya said "You shouldn't hurt people without a reason" - Erica actually got it right i n the end. But even if you forget all about why she's in this world in the first place, she had a reason. After all, Darius tried to murder her slowly just a few moments earlier. So better watch what your dad does little girl, and think hard how other people might feel about his actions, before going round and calling other people a liar. Also, i think the biggest spoilers about most series are here in the forum. Even saying there are spoilers in the OP is actually a spoiler in itself, as just by watching the OP you have no idea whether that stuff is gonna happen even remotely like it's displayed or if it's just for show. And the rest of the stuff here goes even further. There is also a huge difference between only having seen the previous season, if at all, looking up some stuff on the wiki etc., and knowing every little detail by heart. If you did the later, every single thing you say here is basically a spoiler. The things you see as a spoiler in the anime either fly under the radar or are like "hey, maybe it's like this and this, i saw that in UBW (or some of the other adaptions), but the things many here say are like this: Lets assume somebody knows nothing about this, didn't even watch the previous seasons, nor any other adaption or anything. And lets say we only saw Illya going to school. Then that one posts that he wonders why Illya has such a weird family. And then you come and say "thats because she's a magical girl, and in the other adaptions does this and that and here and there and so on, but you clearly alread knew that because the title already spoilers that". And i'm like "hm.. Fate..not really. Kaleid? Huh? Maybe from Kaleidoscope, but whats that do with magic? Liner? No idea. Prisma? Again, colors, but magic? Nope. Illya? Sure, thats the MC, a schoolgirl with a weird family.." I actually looked up some things after having seen the other adaptions, and i have some ideas how it all could make sense within the universe, and there are *some* things in the OP that i guess are a hint, but without knowing all the things by heart or explicitly looking stuff up right on the spot..not really. The characters are shown of course, that can be taken as a spoiler, but Nasuverse-specific concepts and so? Nope. IMHO, the "do not discuss the manga" etc. rule should be enforced much more drastically. It's not just about not discussing the manga *after* this point, but basically everything that it not in the anime itself. The focus should be on the first part of the rule, not the second. I guess discussing the previous seasons is okay where applicable, it's not like they reintroduce all characters with each season etc., but cross-referencing from other adaptions in the same universe or using the manga or wikis etc. is off limits. That should include "it's totally different from what you think but i'm not telling because that would be a spoiler". No, it wouldn't. Or well, i guess it would, but it already *IS* one. |
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