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Aug 5, 2016 6:46 PM

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Does anybody else agree with ^? (Yeah Im lazy)
I used to think Brotherhood was better, but after reading the manga, (And watching more anime) I found it to be a bad adaptation. Horrible pacing and turned into generic shounen trash (With the story of a great manga)

But then, I watched the '03 version and found the relationshio between Ed & Al to be a bit deeper, to be more dramatic, The homonculi (is that how you spell it?) also were deeper, they werent just bad guys after all. And I found
More Meaningful.

I Feel Like people just prefer Brotherhood because
A) Its true to the Original
B)Its ending is f*cking PERFECT
C) The Ending of the Original wasn't exactly "Happy" Although it wasnt just terrible like most people say it was, It wasnt the best but it was good enough.

Overall I'd Say Manga>'03>Brotherhood
Do you agree, or do you think "ITS UNWATCHABLE AFTER BROHOOD WTF!!!"

Aug 5, 2016 6:51 PM

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I can't say I prefer it since I haven't seen FMAB yet, but there are plenty of people who has seen both and prefer 03. In fact, about 25% of people say that 03 is a better watch, although I'm not sure how skewed that data on this is (this was also from a simple poll with not too many votes). I've heard that FMAB is better when watched after 03 since FMAB assumes that the viewer has already seen 03. I loved 03 and haven't seen FMAB, BTW. I will watch FMAB someday, but it is a bit long and I have already seen a similar story.
Aug 5, 2016 6:54 PM
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Yes U might be the only one.........,........
If u haven't watched Clannad after story ,Your lie in April,Toradora,Angel Beats,FMAB,Steins gate...go watch them first.....
Aug 5, 2016 6:57 PM

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No, I meet people who think like you :p
Aug 5, 2016 7:00 PM

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zombie_pegasus said:
I can't say I prefer it since I haven't seen FMAB yet, but there are plenty of people who has seen both and prefer 03. In fact, about 25% of people say that 03 is a better watch, although I'm not sure how skewed that data on this is (this was also from a simple poll with not too many votes). I've heard that FMAB is better when watched after 03 since FMAB assumes that the viewer has already seen 03. I loved 03 and haven't seen FMAB, BTW. I will watch FMAB someday, but it is a bit long and I have already seen a similar story.
well just remember that "you should watch the original first even though this is a remake" isnt a real excuse. I think its the biggest problem, Compressing 30eps into 14 really ruins it and takes away the impact of stuff like tucker. it was 3 eps and then rushed in 2. They also cut out the whole element of "The Alchemist of the People", which I loved. And BTW after a while it comepletely splits off from '03, And I mean going left instead of right level split. Read the manga if you have time/money (Its worth it, and the jokes dont stay the same, which makes it a bit better)

Aug 5, 2016 7:01 PM

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eagleateme said:
Yes U might be the only one.........,........
For somebody who only has 18 days and hasn't seen the original, your saying a lot.

Aug 5, 2016 7:05 PM

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I liked the 03 anime ending more, I love bittersweet endings. Plus I loved the concept.
Aug 5, 2016 7:10 PM

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Aug 5, 2016 7:11 PM

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I thought most weebs here say that 2003 is the better version.


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Aug 5, 2016 7:17 PM

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Why do you put the manga above 2003 if you prefer the story in 2003?
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Aug 5, 2016 7:22 PM

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AltoRoark said:
Why do you put the manga above 2003 if you prefer the story in 2003?
I think he explained it pretty well that FMAB wasn't a good adaption. Have you ever heard of the "uncanny valley" effect? It was originally used to refer to how non-human objects get extremely creepy if they look close to being human but not quite. Similarly, if a story is close to something you love but not quite then it will be a turn-off. FMA 03 can be seen as a different anime that was simply inspired by the story in the manga. It's different enough that its similarities with Fullmetal Alchemist don't become a flaw.
Aug 5, 2016 7:31 PM

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No I genuinely feel that way also. I thought the older version was more enjoyable than brotherhood.

I'm sure some of it could be because by the time brotherhood aired, fullmetal alchemist was not really an original concept anymore since it had already aired previously. Expectations were different.
Aug 5, 2016 7:37 PM

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Yes, you're obviously the only person on this site who prefers it
Aug 5, 2016 7:38 PM

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Yes OP, you're the ONLY one who prefers it over Brotherhood.

Never mind, got ninja'd.
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Aug 5, 2016 8:03 PM

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2009 is objectively better.......
Aug 5, 2016 8:08 PM

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No, 2078's FMA is way better, it has 4D CG
Aug 5, 2016 8:14 PM

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FMA 2003 does have its advantages (better character writing, better presentation, better directing), but a lot of the anime-only material is confusing at best and toilet sludge the rest of the time. Dante is easily one of the worst anime antagonists I've ever seen, Wrath was almost a good character, Sloth was just hilariously ill-conceived--why the hell does she have water powers when you'd think, being Sloth, she'd have, I dunno, HYPNOTIC SUGGESTION OR SOMETHING--and the ending is infamously unsatisfying. And don't even get me started on Frank Archer. Holy crap, Frank Archer was bad.

Brotherhood may not have the characters or directing 2003 has, but its story and setting are far more consistent and engrossing and holy shit Briggs is so cool oh my God Olivier is the best holy shit the battle for Central Command was the tits and dat action animation doe, etc.

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Aug 5, 2016 8:23 PM

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FMA had hit or miss characters. A good majority them hit the bullseye though. FMAB had loads of characters but none of them were particularly unlikable. There was also a lot more material in general in FMAB, more meat to the story if you could say that and it had a much grandiose feel to it. FMA stretched things out and had mediocre - decent filler. If FMAB went by FMA's pacing, it'd probably be 150 to 200 episodes. I preferred FMA's atmosphere but it felt like more could have been done, and the first ~15 episodes were pretty boring. Otherwise, it outshines FMAB by quite a bit.
Also FMAB had much better production values but nobody cares about those. It had better animation, and while both anime had soundtracks that were suited to it, FMAB seemed to put a lot more effort into making good bgm.

In the end I can't really say which one I prefer but I rated Brotherhood higher anyways because it handled its story better even if the story itself was worse and it had better animation + sound.
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Aug 6, 2016 5:20 AM

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FMA 2003 is objectively better then every anime ever that isn't Sega Genesis Evangelion.
The manga is pretty good too but 2003 is better.
Brotherhood is worthless and no one should watch it.
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He thought the manga was better though
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Aug 6, 2016 2:28 PM

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I haven't seen the 2003 version of the show, but FMAB really underwhelmed me. Based on what I heard about the other version, I feel like I'd prefer it.

The ending of brotherhood was far from perfect..
Aug 18, 2016 6:52 AM

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AltoRoark said:
Why do you put the manga above 2003 if you prefer the story in 2003?
Sorry for Old topic, but I prefer the manga, I just dont like Brotherhood. It was rushed and too gimmicky for me.

Aug 19, 2016 8:22 PM

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See what I wrote there lol. I also agree FMA is better than FMAB.
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Jan 6, 2017 1:36 AM

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I need to rewatch this, but from what I remember I liked this version long before remake aired.
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Jan 6, 2017 1:48 AM
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There are aspects of FMA 2003 I prefer and vice versa.
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Jan 6, 2017 2:00 PM
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Zelkiiro said:
And don't even get me started on Frank Archer. Holy crap, Frank Archer was bad.

That priest guy that was with Rose from FMA:B in episode 3 turned into a giant with a mechanical arm just because of a philosopher's stone.

Just goes to show you that BroHood had stupid moments too.

This was worse than Frank Archer
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Jan 6, 2017 2:08 PM

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I've only watched Brotherhood and I liked it. It immediately become one of my top 5 shows ever. I thought it was pretty well done despite some slowdown in the middle, a somehow flat ending and two particular really really annoying characters.

I'm planning to watch now the 2003 version this summer (souther hemisphere here) and I dunno something tells me I'm gonna like it too despite the plot differences. Let's see if I end up enjoying it more than the 2009 one.
Jan 6, 2017 2:10 PM

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I think Brotherhood is as close to flawless as it gets and stands as the best anime of all time
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RottedRabbit said:
Does anybody else agree with ^?

Yes. Someone one YouTube dose. ^_^

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There are enough people who like 2003 version and I am one of them. You can see it from some posts on tumblr) I think 2003 version really has deeper conversations and meanings and it is more cruel and sad, but that's what I like. Brotherhood seemed to me like blockbuster, something that everyone would like because it is happy, lots of action, little drama. Good people are really good, evil are evil. In 2003 there are more gray people and that's seems to be more realistic. So I think the reason why Brotherhood is more popular that most people prefer happy endings where good overcomes evil) plus people tend to watch Brotherhood first, because it is relatively new anime with good graffic, I think only people who really like Brotherhood decide to watch 2003 and 2003's mood is really different so I think most of them won't like it.
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Jan 24, 2017 6:27 AM

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Just ended FMA03. And my fresh answer is that....despite doing some things better than FMAB, the latter is definetely better.

Overall I felt that FMA was better directed than FMAB:

- Despite having a good share of irrelevant episodes at the beginning, the pacing was better, not too slow not too fast; by contrast FMAB is extremely fast-paced and leaves little room for taking breaths.

- In regards to that, many key and relevant events in FMAB happen just too early (I'm talking about 3 specific events during chapters 10-19). That killed some thrill.

- FMA is also more explanatory; there are many aspects that FMAB simply "assumes" the viewer already knows.

- It's dramatic and deeper tone is more suited to the nature of the story; the comedy moments in FMAB are at times excessive.

- Despite their personalities and powers not having much to do with the sins they are representing (apart from Gluttony and Greed), the Homunculi here are better characterized, have more background; in FMAB they feel just as the enemy-tools.

- It was nice watching the boys having to deal more with the sin they committed facing someone who looked like her late mother.

- Mustang's team has more screentime here and it was a pleasure since these guys are really fun to watch.

BUT...the ending. OMG I was so dissapointed with the ending. It was too rushed, felt so abrupt, felt so incomplete, and -maybe I'm biased here since I saw Brotherhood first- but the "twist" revealed at the end felt really awkward, felt really out of place. And that ridiculous looking OP Frank Archer whose comeback was not necessary at all, was the top of the cake.

Endings in series like these where there is only one story being told, one arc being developed, are essential. They can kill the magic if executed poorly. And this was FMA's biggest trouble.

FMAB may not have the advantages I mentioned before, but since it's ending was more complete and rounded (and the concept of the portal/gate was much better suited here), overall makes this version better.
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Here is another one who agrees with you: Spoilers for both! 1st and BroHood

Feb 7, 2017 6:25 PM
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I also don't like how MAL list the anime original episodes as "filler" it's not filler. It's "anime original" content.
The majority of the anime original stuff is still important to the overall story, unlike a never ending anime like naruto. Not that all the filler in naruto was bad. Or at least the earliest episodes.

I mean the Fullmetal vs Flame episode wasn't even 100% anime original. It was apart of a extra chapter than was in the manga. MAL is a joke.
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Okay, I have this theory -

The best way to watch Fullmetal Alchemist is to watch the original version up to episode 17 and then switch over to Fullmetal Alchemist: Brotherhood starting at episode 7.

Crazy, I know, but heres my logic:
FMA was the first anime that I ever watched and of course I loved it, however, I was kinda disappointed with the ending and how rushed it was.

However, I was even more disappointed with how rushed the beginning of FMAB was. I really appreciated how FMAB developed the supporting characters and the conclusion flows more logically with the entire story... (I mean, it does follow the manga)

BUT the beginning of FMAB is so hurried that you miss so much of the back story!

So, why not mash 'em together and reconcile the problems with each version?
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Spoilers in comment.

They are both 10/10 for me. I like some aspects of the shows better or worse for both. Like I prefer Mustang being the one who killed winry's parents, in comparison to Scar killing her parents. It paints scar in a darker grey that I didn't like, but mustang was already a dark grey in that he is mass murderer in both series. Also Armstrong is alluded to being a mass murderer in 2003, so I prefer his brotherhood counterpart who broke down in war. That fits his character so much better. Hughes was also better in 2003, and I like dante as a villain more as well.
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I have seen 03 and brotherhood plenty of times each and I prefer 03. I think the main reason was because of the way 03 ended. I liked the fact that its was not your typical Hollywood happy ending cliche thing which brotherhood was. Don't get he wrong I still love brotherhood but the ending to 03 was so unique and I feel it suited the tone and style of the show very well.
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No. I also think 2003 is better than Brotherhood. Don't get me wrong, I love Brotherhood, but I found 2003 better due to how dark and unique it was. It showed that there is no such thing as equivalent exchange and it's the main reason I loved the franchise.
In my opinion it
2003 handled Ed, Hughes, Izumi, Greed and his Gang (excluding Greedling), Nina, Sloth, Lust, Havoc (because in this version he didn't retire), Basque Grande (Though I don't like him at all), Roy (I love both Roys, but I found this Roy better characterized), and Slicer
Brotherhood handled Bradley, Hohenheim, Kimblee, Envy (he's funny), Winry, Riza, Marcoh, Selim, Armstrong (because he has more characterization), and Gluttony
I personally think Al and Scar were handelled well in both versions

Overall, both series' are amazing, but it's because of the original that I love this franchise. But it all comes down to your opinion. .
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Just finished it. I prefer it as well.
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No, I prefer it too and I love the op/ed songs
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No. Having recently finished watching brotherhood for the first time, I still prefer 03.
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i just finished fma 2003 and started to watch brotherhood. from the start, I immediately disliked it. I developed this hunch after many years of watching and i got one of them with brotherhood. The intro to brotherhood was literally so bad i was cringing. Whoever directed this did such a bad job from what i've seen so far, also i think the art was just so strange, there was just something off about it. One thing I'll say is that the backgrounds look great, but the actual animation looks kinda cheap, like you can see that they are taking short cuts by making the shot in a place so that they don't have to animate them moving. Something else that i noticed is that the humor is so dry! Sometimes they try to pull a joke at the worst time, i also struggle to see or feel any emotion in them, which is honestly a polar opposite to the 2003 version. The only time i really saw any kind of good scene was an action scene, but i think its only because the scene is going at a faster pace so you can't notice any of the little things in the flow and the art.

Well i just threw that up, i don't have anyone to talk to about fma so i really thought was crazy or something, here i was thinking that brotherhood is kinda crappy and its like one of the highest rated animes, like did y'all just not watch 2003 or something. I thought 2003 had such an amazing theme and tone, character development is very good, like you can see and feel that they have grown, especially when al Spoiler*({loses his memories}sorry if you havent watched it) after that, you can feel the contrast between young al and old al because you already seen how much he has gone through

Yeah i just think the narrative of 2003 was so much better sorry not sorry, i'm kinda upset since brotherhood is so talked highly of, but i'll see how it goes? I might just skip to where 2003 left off.
The difference between them for me has been like; brotherhood so far makes me (-.-)
and 2003 had me opening my eyes wide open, mouth ready to catch flies, heartbeat 130bpm, and made bingeing all night by accident
im so just salty

so 40 episodes down the line, its finally picked up at around ep 30, but that half the anime broo. that was 1 and a half 20 episode animes i could have watched instead! I don't think it should be taking that long to get into a good rhythm! The most disappointing part of watching this was probably the character's relationship with each other. Its the same characters, but its not the characters that i know and love, they really just missed a big chunk of important character development. I hear that brotherhood gives more development to the side characters, but i diSaGrEe not much has been done, at least not yet, but its been 40 episodes my dude. Im excited to see what do they have left in the last 22 episodes i guess. I thought the messy atmosphere choices and directing were on the anime, but i checked out the manga and i guess i just dont like the manga? again, sorry not sorry

i dont understand why brotherhood is the #1 anime on mal, goodnight
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