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Aug 1, 2016 12:48 PM
#101
Aug 1, 2016 12:54 PM
#102
From the official website. http://www.nbcuni.co.jp/anime/danganronpa3/character/towa.html |
Aug 1, 2016 12:57 PM
#103
Dahyun said: Perfect12 said: Stop saying that everybody has to play the game to understand what's going on. I haven't played one game and I understand what's going on in the anime because everything is explained. Stop spoiling things just because you played the game and think you have to mention it everywhere (ahem... because it's NECESSARY for everyone to have played it). They aren't explaining everything.. You're missing out on a lot of things It's the fourth episode and she was just revealed. They explained the plot of the second game and the result of said plot. Anime-only viewers will have no problem understanding her character by the end. Sure, game players like myself no her name and part of her motive, but none of that is enough to reveal if she is actually the mastermind of this game or just a chaotic-neutral force desperately trying to cause havoc in the name of despair. She could just as easily be a pawn in the grand scheme of things. The show will recap and give information and context. It has so far, and there is so much time left to cover what happened between 1 and 2. |
Aug 1, 2016 1:01 PM
#104
Aug 1, 2016 1:04 PM
#105
heeaahhh?? a green enoshima? this is getting weirder by each second |
Aug 1, 2016 1:07 PM
#106
Hellspawn reveal aside Boxer-kun has kicked Boxer-kun has thrown Boxer-kun has not punched |
Aug 1, 2016 1:15 PM
#107
kizakura fuckin callin it |
Aug 1, 2016 1:17 PM
#108
HOLY SHIT THE SCOUT WAS RIGHT!!! Kind of wondering where they're going with this since Monaca was revealed WAY too early. It sucks Tengan was impaled but the best moment by far is showing the two douchebags who really runs the show. Super excited for the next episode |
Aug 1, 2016 1:18 PM
#109
I am hoping Tenga somehow makes it alive, but those wounds... He is pretty cool for beating both Sakakura AND Munakata. Even if he turns out to be the mastermind I think I can forgive him partly just because of that. So Monaca shows up pretty early. There was hardly any doubt that she was controlling Gekkougahara when they showed the wheelchair could climb the rocky terrain lol. Then it was sort of a given she was gonna get some screen time the moment Gekkougahara decided to stop Sakakura though. She is a true Junko follower! Coming back a live from the death and all~ |
Aug 1, 2016 1:22 PM
#110
This conversation has finally become reality... This is my OTP "Nothing has really changed since you began. So I need to you to continue working hard... So that splendid hope may be born. You have tasted the bitter despair of having your meticulous plan fall apart around you... So I know you can do it. -Komaeda Really... Which side are you on? -Monaca Does it even matter? ( giggle ) Anyway, why don't you be the Successor for now? If that is your intention, I will lend you a hand. If my schedule allows it, of course. There is somewhere I need to be later. -Komaeda What do you mean...? -Monaca I shall raise...to become her copy, even more realistic than the real one. Someone like me who both hates and loves her more than anyone else. I should be able to make you even more like her than even she herself was. -Komaeda Gross..." -Monaca |
Aug 1, 2016 1:24 PM
#111
Degree said: Dahyun said: Perfect12 said: Stop saying that everybody has to play the game to understand what's going on. I haven't played one game and I understand what's going on in the anime because everything is explained. Stop spoiling things just because you played the game and think you have to mention it everywhere (ahem... because it's NECESSARY for everyone to have played it). They aren't explaining everything.. You're missing out on a lot of things It's the fourth episode and she was just revealed. They explained the plot of the second game and the result of said plot. Anime-only viewers will have no problem understanding her character by the end. Sure, game players like myself no her name and part of her motive, but none of that is enough to reveal if she is actually the mastermind of this game or just a chaotic-neutral force desperately trying to cause havoc in the name of despair. She could just as easily be a pawn in the grand scheme of things. The show will recap and give information and context. It has so far, and there is so much time left to cover what happened between 1 and 2. Ofc you can understand what's going on duh I just said you're missing out if you haven't played the games |
Aug 1, 2016 1:25 PM
#112
Aug 1, 2016 1:26 PM
#113
Wanted to add: The reason I think they're not going to spend much time explaining Monaca is because of how they handled Twilight Syndrome in Despair Side. The event itself (which was a major component of a case in DR2) was blown through in about a minute, while most of the rest of the episode was dedicated to building it up with some background that we weren't given in the game. They didn't spend much time at all re-hashing a game plot, and I doubt they're going to do it here. Sure, she'll probably get a little bit of an introduction since they're making it clear she'll play a major role (maybe in the Monokuma theater form at the start of the next episode), but there's still going to be a lot of confusion ahead for those who didn't play AE. Actually, I hope they do introduce her in an intro like that because it'll probably mean seeing the AE cast again! (if only in flashback form). |
Aug 1, 2016 1:33 PM
#114
We only saw Monaca control Gekkogahara and, at the same time, Monomi. We don't know if she is the mastermind or not, but still it would've been weird if she worked against them... Does this mean that she is the one who made Neo World Program and all? Does Gekkogahara even exist in the first place? |
Noir… It is the name of an ancient fate. Two sisters who watch anime. The peace of the newly born, their black hands protect. |
Aug 1, 2016 1:36 PM
#115
Shimai_ni said: We only saw Monaca control Gekkogahara and, at the same time, Monomi. We don't know if she is the mastermind or not, but still it would've been weird if she worked against them... Does this mean that she is the one who made Neo World Program and all? Does Gekkogahara even exist in the first place? It was mentioned in the game who made the Neo World Program... If I remember right it was the SHSL Neurologist and Programmer and someone else who I don't remember. Just confirmed: It was the SHSL Therapist which means Gekkogahara was one of the creators |
TheOllieAug 1, 2016 1:43 PM
Aug 1, 2016 1:40 PM
#116
I suspected Gekkougahara of being Monaca the whole time! Thought it might have been too obvious but in retrospect after three games of the one you least suspect being the mastermind we were conditioned into thinking Gekkougahara was too easy and sought to suspect other people so I guess in a way this is yet another twist. I mean some people even thought Naegi was a sleeper agent. Loved Monaca's character in Danganronpa AE, she's such a screwy little demon-spawn. Didn't expect Gekkougahara to be a robot though. So we are to suspect that she's responsible for the deaths right? She's a robot so she's immune to the drug that knocks them unconscious. Why would Monaca want to make it seem as though Asahina was murdered though?.... Actually, forget that question, she's a little shit so she obviously just wanted to torment Naegi after they had their bonding moment. That's all. The Chairman is a bad motherfucker! He's so hardcore yet complains that he's too old. Just how hardcore was he back in the day? And serves Sakakura right, the brute. I know he'll be responsible for Asahina's death too and I'll hate him even more. She's tired, Naegi can't run and her weakness is being punched or kicked which Sakakura does primarily. As usual another highly enjoyable episode. A lot of people who neglected to play the games or even watch an LP because they couldn't be bothered are missing out on a lot of enjoyment because they don't know 2/3 of the story. |
Aug 1, 2016 1:41 PM
#117
TheOllie said: Shimai_ni said: We only saw Monaca control Gekkogahara and, at the same time, Monomi. We don't know if she is the mastermind or not, but still it would've been weird if she worked against them... Does this mean that she is the one who made Neo World Program and all? Does Gekkogahara even exist in the first place? It was mentioned in the game who made the Neo World Program... If I remember right it was the SHSL Neurologist and Programmer and someone else who I don't remember. Just confirmed: It was the SHSL Therapist which means Gekkogahara was one of the creators But that would mean that Monaca was controlling Gekkogahara before "The Incident" which is not possible imo... |
Aug 1, 2016 1:45 PM
#118
Aug 1, 2016 1:46 PM
#119
Monaca from the AE credits, as a reminder: |
bcruiseAug 1, 2016 1:51 PM
Aug 1, 2016 1:57 PM
#120
Monaca is the one who developed the so-called New World Program. She is also the creator of Usami. So what the hell is going on with the New World Program being used for Hope? What if there are actually bugs in the program and said bugs are causing the Ultimate Despairs who "died" in the program to return not as their old selves but as their Ultimate Despair selves? |
Aug 1, 2016 2:00 PM
#121
MoonStar9 said: I suspected Gekkougahara of being Monaca the whole time! Thought it might have been too obvious but in retrospect after three games of the one you least suspect being the mastermind we were conditioned into thinking Gekkougahara was too easy and sought to suspect other people so I guess in a way this is yet another twist. I mean some people even thought Naegi was a sleeper agent. Can you explain what exactly tipped you off about Gekkougahara? Also, I would like to point out that there might be more than one killer. Because this is not a game anymore, it is a survival hunt. We already know that the killer can break the rules anytime they want, by ending the game prematurely or not being affected by their forbidden action. |
Aug 1, 2016 2:04 PM
#122
Lol, It looks like she was already preparing things for this very event...I guess this was super foreshadowing then... |
You are not your body, you are your brain, the "self" that emerges from within it. |
Aug 1, 2016 2:05 PM
#123
Shimai_ni said: We only saw Monaca control Gekkogahara and, at the same time, Monomi. We don't know if she is the mastermind or not, but still it would've been weird if she worked against them... Does this mean that she is the one who made Neo World Program and all? Does Gekkogahara even exist in the first place? WTF no. The real Gekkogahara is problably dead and Monaca used this to fill in the role of here to infiltrate and organize the next killing game. After all this is a almost perfect diguise. Because nobody ever heard here talking. |
Aug 1, 2016 2:07 PM
#124
trannon1 said: Monaca is the one who developed the so-called New World Program. She is also the creator of Usami. So what the hell is going on with the New World Program being used for Hope? What if there are actually bugs in the program and said bugs are causing the Ultimate Despairs who "died" in the program to return not as their old selves but as their Ultimate Despair selves? Did you even play the games or how can you come to that theory at all? |
Aug 1, 2016 2:08 PM
#125
So, no Junko return in Mirai hen. ;-; I was hopping for her to be the mastermind. |
Aug 1, 2016 2:12 PM
#126
trannon1 said: MoonStar9 said: I suspected Gekkougahara of being Monaca the whole time! Thought it might have been too obvious but in retrospect after three games of the one you least suspect being the mastermind we were conditioned into thinking Gekkougahara was too easy and sought to suspect other people so I guess in a way this is yet another twist. I mean some people even thought Naegi was a sleeper agent. Can you explain what exactly tipped you off about Gekkougahara? Also, I would like to point out that there might be more than one killer. Because this is not a game anymore, it is a survival hunt. We already know that the killer can break the rules anytime they want, by ending the game prematurely or not being affected by their forbidden action. Her general appearance which resembles Monaca, the fact that she was wheelchair bound, didn't talk and used the Monomi AI were among the major superficial reasons I suspected her, however, last episode she claimed her NG was being unable to turn right, correct? That would have been too much of a huge animation error. |
Aug 1, 2016 2:14 PM
#127
Lol, if Monaca is controling a robot of Gekkogahara...What if Gekkogahara is alive and is the mastermind? And then she turns out to be irl Chiaki that has indeed fallen into despair, which means Chiaki don't die in the way everyone is thinking, then in the final parts of Zetsubou-hen they'll reveal that to us and make the final tie between the two animes.........Nah that's stupid...But I'll not throw that notion away just yet... |
You are not your body, you are your brain, the "self" that emerges from within it. |
Aug 1, 2016 2:19 PM
#128
Ahh I didn't know this anime was related to Despair Girls too, I haven't played it yet. ;-; Just 1 and 2. |
Aug 1, 2016 2:20 PM
#129
Riveon said: MightyM16 said: Riveon said: MightyM16 said: Riveon said: Seriously?! I heard about Monaca, but didn't expect to see her in this. Also didn't play her game, since is only on PS Vita Kodaka can't even count to 3... MightyM16 said: OrangeJP said: _AnimeLover__ said: OrangeJP said: It is not a suspicious person. If you have watch the Ultra Despair Girls, you should already know who she isPretty cool action scenes in this episode Suspicious character appears at the end I know who Monaca is, but this is an anime discussion, not a game discussion. For people who haven't played the game, it's better not to spoil anything and let them find out who she is by watching the anime. Playing the game is a must for this anime though If playing spin-off game is must, then this should be labeled as Danganronpa 4 not 3. Another episode is just a spin off if you look at it in a gameplay perspective since it's story is extremely relevant to the DR franchise and part of the canon timeline http://danganronpa-timeline.tumblr.com/ Spin-offs extend story and world, so of course they often canon. But they never should be important to understand main work. If they do, then that means that they are no longer spin-offs, but part of main work. And that would pretty much make this anime Danganronpa 4. AE is part of the main work, it's just not called "3" because of the different gameplay and perspective it offered Monaca is extremely relevant to the tragedy and to what Junko's plan was, she is set up as the "next Junko" at the end of AE, wanting her not to appear in the final installment of the Hope's Peak saga is basically wanting a plot hole to manifest itself So you pretty much say that the author failed math class, since your speech still doesn't explain why this anime is called "3". By logic 1->2->3 not 1->2->some other bullshit->3 Honestly, I just hope that they would somehow explain her existence here, without "go play game" route. I'm saying that just because a game isn't considering a main game, it doesn't means it adds nothing to the game story AE is relevant, it always was and you just have to deal with it |
Aug 1, 2016 2:21 PM
#130
First genuinely great episode of the future arc so far, tengan is based as fuck (but on the downside hes possibly adding to this anime's issue of killing off the likable people too fast), we got to see every single character in action, and we got the blatantly obvious mastermind out of the way really early on. Cant wait till next week. that said im gonna just go on a mostly basless limb here and say tengan actually wont die from that impaling, the guy seems retard strong and i think the fact they didnt show him die this episode might mean hes gonna survive his wounds somehow. that or ill eat shit next monday, we will see. |
JizzyHitlerAug 1, 2016 2:27 PM
Immahnoob said: Jizzy, I know you have no idea how to argue for shit, tokiyashiro said: Jizzy as you would call yourself because youre a dick The most butthurt award goes to you And clearly you havent watched that many shows thats why you cant determine if a show is unique or not Or maybe you're just a child who likes common stuffs where hero saves the day and guys gets all the girls. Sad taste you have there kid you came up to me in the first place making you look more like a kid who got slapped without me even knowing it and start crying about it to me |
Aug 1, 2016 2:26 PM
#131
HyperL said: Lol, if Monaca is controling a robot of Gekkogahara...What if Gekkogahara is alive and is the mastermind? And then she turns out to be irl Chiaki that has indeed fallen into despair, which means Chiaki don't die in the way everyone is thinking, then in the final parts of Zetsubou-hen they'll reveal that to us and make the final tie between the two animes.........Nah that's stupid...But I'll not throw that notion away just yet... https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=N6l3e1QHIVk https://gfycat.com/InexperiencedHospitableFish Is Gekkogahara real? Yes and she'll save everyone |
Aug 1, 2016 2:29 PM
#132
MonoReaper said: trannon1 said: Monaca is the one who developed the so-called New World Program. She is also the creator of Usami. So what the hell is going on with the New World Program being used for Hope? What if there are actually bugs in the program and said bugs are causing the Ultimate Despairs who "died" in the program to return not as their old selves but as their Ultimate Despair selves? Did you even play the games or how can you come to that theory at all? Is that one sentence supposed to explain everything? The ending of DR2 was very open, since they only mentioned how Hinata and the others stayed on Jabberwock Island waiting for their "dead" friends to wake up. Time has obviously passed so there is no reason why if the Ultimate Despairs woke up, they wouldn't be in their Ultimate Despair personas. So yes, I played the game, and your answer was short and kinda stupid, since you didn't explain why you thought my theory was stupid. |
Aug 1, 2016 2:29 PM
#133
So I was right; Maiya IS Monaca, yet... I was not expecting Maiya to be an "avatar". Kinda curious as to when/how Maiya was inserted into the Future Foundation. Main suspect: Ryouta Mitarai. He seems to want to be like Naegi, and is inspiring to be an "Ultimate Hope". I'm also suspicious as to where Ryouta was before the Tragedy occurred, since The Ultimate Imposter was disguised as him at Hope's Peak. He just sets off tons of alarms in my head, so hopefully he isn't the traitor. He just seems too obvious. |
Aug 1, 2016 2:30 PM
#134
FragOutFire said: HyperL said: Lol, if Monaca is controling a robot of Gekkogahara...What if Gekkogahara is alive and is the mastermind? And then she turns out to be irl Chiaki that has indeed fallen into despair, which means Chiaki don't die in the way everyone is thinking, then in the final parts of Zetsubou-hen they'll reveal that to us and make the final tie between the two animes.........Nah that's stupid...But I'll not throw that notion away just yet... https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=N6l3e1QHIVk https://gfycat.com/InexperiencedHospitableFish Is Gekkogahara real? Yes and she'll save everyone What will you decide? This is the decision game... |
You are not your body, you are your brain, the "self" that emerges from within it. |
Aug 1, 2016 2:34 PM
#135
MoonStar9 said: trannon1 said: MoonStar9 said: I suspected Gekkougahara of being Monaca the whole time! Thought it might have been too obvious but in retrospect after three games of the one you least suspect being the mastermind we were conditioned into thinking Gekkougahara was too easy and sought to suspect other people so I guess in a way this is yet another twist. I mean some people even thought Naegi was a sleeper agent. Can you explain what exactly tipped you off about Gekkougahara? Also, I would like to point out that there might be more than one killer. Because this is not a game anymore, it is a survival hunt. We already know that the killer can break the rules anytime they want, by ending the game prematurely or not being affected by their forbidden action. Her general appearance which resembles Monaca, the fact that she was wheelchair bound, didn't talk and used the Monomi AI were among the major superficial reasons I suspected her, however, last episode she claimed her NG was being unable to turn right, correct? That would have been too much of a huge animation error. I am impressed by your observation skills. And this proves my theory that this "game" is not like the previous game with both parties being bound by rules. Monaca obviously has no interest in following the rules. Well, unless she was just pretending her forbidden action was turning right. After all, we didn't actually see it displayed on her bracelet, it was Naegi who posited that that was her forbidden action. |
Aug 1, 2016 2:36 PM
#136
MoonStar9 said: trannon1 said: MoonStar9 said: I suspected Gekkougahara of being Monaca the whole time! Thought it might have been too obvious but in retrospect after three games of the one you least suspect being the mastermind we were conditioned into thinking Gekkougahara was too easy and sought to suspect other people so I guess in a way this is yet another twist. I mean some people even thought Naegi was a sleeper agent. Can you explain what exactly tipped you off about Gekkougahara? Also, I would like to point out that there might be more than one killer. Because this is not a game anymore, it is a survival hunt. We already know that the killer can break the rules anytime they want, by ending the game prematurely or not being affected by their forbidden action. Her general appearance which resembles Monaca, the fact that she was wheelchair bound, didn't talk and used the Monomi AI were among the major superficial reasons I suspected her, however, last episode she claimed her NG was being unable to turn right, correct? That would have been too much of a huge animation error. Dat Naegi ass tho... xD |
Aug 1, 2016 2:36 PM
#137
trannon1 said: MonoReaper said: trannon1 said: Monaca is the one who developed the so-called New World Program. She is also the creator of Usami. So what the hell is going on with the New World Program being used for Hope? What if there are actually bugs in the program and said bugs are causing the Ultimate Despairs who "died" in the program to return not as their old selves but as their Ultimate Despair selves? Did you even play the games or how can you come to that theory at all? Is that one sentence supposed to explain everything? The ending of DR2 was very open, since they only mentioned how Hinata and the others stayed on Jabberwock Island waiting for their "dead" friends to wake up. Time has obviously passed so there is no reason why if the Ultimate Despairs woke up, they wouldn't be in their Ultimate Despair personas. So yes, I played the game, and your answer was short and kinda stupid, since you didn't explain why you thought my theory was stupid. ??? You dont seem to understand how time and ageing works i guess. |
Aug 1, 2016 2:39 PM
#138
Heres the real question, even if its most likley all on her, is monaca the actual mastermind behind this or was she just fucking around as a 3rd party and this is all just an unfortunate coincidence. |
Immahnoob said: Jizzy, I know you have no idea how to argue for shit, tokiyashiro said: Jizzy as you would call yourself because youre a dick The most butthurt award goes to you And clearly you havent watched that many shows thats why you cant determine if a show is unique or not Or maybe you're just a child who likes common stuffs where hero saves the day and guys gets all the girls. Sad taste you have there kid you came up to me in the first place making you look more like a kid who got slapped without me even knowing it and start crying about it to me |
Aug 1, 2016 2:42 PM
#140
I knew it, I knew it, I knew itttt! Lots of people kept on dismissing the theory that Gekkougahara was actually Monaka last week, but I couldn't overlook their similarities. As soon as I saw how similar their haircuts were and the fact that both used a wheelchair I was like, "YUP THIS IS HER." It makes sense that she's the one controlled Monomi because she the one who actually MADE the Monokumas in DR: Another Episode. Also the fact that she idolizes Junko and basically wants to be just like her. I guess it's pretty easy to assume now that she's controlling Monokuma for this killing game too. Also it makes me sad that she pretends to be disabled but in actuality can walk??? Like wtf girl. I really dislike Monaka as a character ((if you play the game you will understand why)), so a part of me hopes that she will get offed soon. The chances of that are slim to none, but I guess I can always hope. I want to know more about the Blacksmith's and Confectioner's backstory. They're very interesting characters for me, moreso than the Boxer and Student Council Pres. I'd love to see 500% less Boxer and more of the other side characters. Looks like next week will probably have a lot of Monaca action and another killing since the countdown is at around 30 minutes now. I think it's safe to say that the Future Foundation Chairman is pretty much dead now. He might have one more monologue and then pass next episode. I'm not really looking forward to Monaca being a crazy little demon spawn next episode, but at the very least it should be a bit entertaining. |
Aug 1, 2016 2:44 PM
#141
MonoReaper said: trannon1 said: MonoReaper said: trannon1 said: Monaca is the one who developed the so-called New World Program. She is also the creator of Usami. So what the hell is going on with the New World Program being used for Hope? What if there are actually bugs in the program and said bugs are causing the Ultimate Despairs who "died" in the program to return not as their old selves but as their Ultimate Despair selves? Did you even play the games or how can you come to that theory at all? Is that one sentence supposed to explain everything? The ending of DR2 was very open, since they only mentioned how Hinata and the others stayed on Jabberwock Island waiting for their "dead" friends to wake up. Time has obviously passed so there is no reason why if the Ultimate Despairs woke up, they wouldn't be in their Ultimate Despair personas. So yes, I played the game, and your answer was short and kinda stupid, since you didn't explain why you thought my theory was stupid. ??? You dont seem to understand how time and ageing works i guess. Yea, time and aging works like in reality when it comes to anime even though most of Ultimate Despair look the same age as when they were in Highschool and so do most of the Future Foundation. Just like how Chisa and Munakata both look like they did those years ago. You still haven't explained why my theory was stupid btw. Are you ever going to stop the one sentence answers? |
Aug 1, 2016 2:44 PM
#142
poptartnyan said: I knew it, I knew it, I knew itttt! Lots of people kept on dismissing the theory that Gekkougahara was actually Monaka last week, but I couldn't overlook their similarities. As soon as I saw how similar their haircuts were and the fact that both used a wheelchair I was like, "YUP THIS IS HER." It makes sense that she's the one controlled Monomi because she the one who actually MADE the Monokumas in DR: Another Episode. Also the fact that she idolizes Junko and basically wants to be just like her. I guess it's pretty easy to assume now that she's controlling Monokuma for this killing game too. Also it makes me sad that she pretends to be disabled but in actuality can walk??? Like wtf girl. I really dislike Monaka as a character ((if you play the game you will understand why)), so a part of me hopes that she will get offed soon. The chances of that are slim to none, but I guess I can always hope. I want to know more about the Blacksmith's and Confectioner's backstory. They're very interesting characters for me, moreso than the Boxer and Student Council Pres. I'd love to see 500% less Boxer and more of the other side characters. Looks like next week will probably have a lot of Monaca action and another killing since the countdown is at around 30 minutes now. I think it's safe to say that the Future Foundation Chairman is pretty much dead now. He might have one more monologue and then pass next episode. I'm not really looking forward to Monaca being a crazy little demon spawn next episode, but at the very least it should be a bit entertaining. Can people explain me why Monaca is "easily hated"...? I don't see how... (I love her) |
Aug 1, 2016 2:46 PM
#144
trannon1 said: MonoReaper said: trannon1 said: MonoReaper said: trannon1 said: Monaca is the one who developed the so-called New World Program. She is also the creator of Usami. So what the hell is going on with the New World Program being used for Hope? What if there are actually bugs in the program and said bugs are causing the Ultimate Despairs who "died" in the program to return not as their old selves but as their Ultimate Despair selves? Did you even play the games or how can you come to that theory at all? Is that one sentence supposed to explain everything? The ending of DR2 was very open, since they only mentioned how Hinata and the others stayed on Jabberwock Island waiting for their "dead" friends to wake up. Time has obviously passed so there is no reason why if the Ultimate Despairs woke up, they wouldn't be in their Ultimate Despair personas. So yes, I played the game, and your answer was short and kinda stupid, since you didn't explain why you thought my theory was stupid. ??? You dont seem to understand how time and ageing works i guess. Yea, time and aging works like in reality when it comes to anime even though most of Ultimate Despair look the same age as when they were in Highschool and so do most of the Future Foundation. Just like how Chisa and Munakata both look like they did those years ago. You still haven't explained why my theory was stupid btw. Are you ever going to stop the one sentence answers? You make no sense dude. |
Aug 1, 2016 2:47 PM
#145
trannon1 said: MonoReaper said: trannon1 said: MonoReaper said: trannon1 said: Monaca is the one who developed the so-called New World Program. She is also the creator of Usami. So what the hell is going on with the New World Program being used for Hope? What if there are actually bugs in the program and said bugs are causing the Ultimate Despairs who "died" in the program to return not as their old selves but as their Ultimate Despair selves? Did you even play the games or how can you come to that theory at all? Is that one sentence supposed to explain everything? The ending of DR2 was very open, since they only mentioned how Hinata and the others stayed on Jabberwock Island waiting for their "dead" friends to wake up. Time has obviously passed so there is no reason why if the Ultimate Despairs woke up, they wouldn't be in their Ultimate Despair personas. So yes, I played the game, and your answer was short and kinda stupid, since you didn't explain why you thought my theory was stupid. ??? You dont seem to understand how time and ageing works i guess. Yea, time and aging works like in reality when it comes to anime even though most of Ultimate Despair look the same age as when they were in Highschool and so do most of the Future Foundation. Just like how Chisa and Munakata both look like they did those years ago. Are you ever going to stop the one sentence answers? It's been around 3 years after the "Incident" started... So not changing in 2-3 years is not surprising...unless we're talking about Hiyoko... |
Aug 1, 2016 2:47 PM
#146
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Aug 1, 2016 2:50 PM
#147
JizzyHitler said: Heres the real question, even if its most likley all on her, is monaca the actual mastermind behind this or was she just fucking around as a 3rd party and this is all just an unfortunate coincidence. It's certainly a possibility she's running everything as it's definitely her behind all the computer stuff (the "hacking" scene in particular looks pretty funny now). But it would be a strange move to introduce the mastermind in ep4. That's the only reason it's a little hard to swallow at this point. Regardless I think most of us who played AE knew she was going to be involved, it was just a matter of how. Right from the first episode's intro we knew there were going to be AE connections. |
Aug 1, 2016 2:51 PM
#148
MonoReaper said: trannon1 said: MonoReaper said: trannon1 said: MonoReaper said: trannon1 said: Monaca is the one who developed the so-called New World Program. She is also the creator of Usami. So what the hell is going on with the New World Program being used for Hope? What if there are actually bugs in the program and said bugs are causing the Ultimate Despairs who "died" in the program to return not as their old selves but as their Ultimate Despair selves? Did you even play the games or how can you come to that theory at all? Is that one sentence supposed to explain everything? The ending of DR2 was very open, since they only mentioned how Hinata and the others stayed on Jabberwock Island waiting for their "dead" friends to wake up. Time has obviously passed so there is no reason why if the Ultimate Despairs woke up, they wouldn't be in their Ultimate Despair personas. So yes, I played the game, and your answer was short and kinda stupid, since you didn't explain why you thought my theory was stupid. ??? You dont seem to understand how time and ageing works i guess. Yea, time and aging works like in reality when it comes to anime even though most of Ultimate Despair look the same age as when they were in Highschool and so do most of the Future Foundation. Just like how Chisa and Munakata both look like they did those years ago. You still haven't explained why my theory was stupid btw. Are you ever going to stop the one sentence answers? You make no sense dude. Well you expect me to make sense of your one sentence answers but I'm too stupid to do so, so I'm out. Well quick apology, I was being sarcastic. But honestly, I have no idea what you are talking about. |
trannon1Aug 1, 2016 2:57 PM
Aug 1, 2016 2:53 PM
#149
TheOllie said: trannon1 said: MonoReaper said: trannon1 said: MonoReaper said: trannon1 said: Monaca is the one who developed the so-called New World Program. She is also the creator of Usami. So what the hell is going on with the New World Program being used for Hope? What if there are actually bugs in the program and said bugs are causing the Ultimate Despairs who "died" in the program to return not as their old selves but as their Ultimate Despair selves? Did you even play the games or how can you come to that theory at all? Is that one sentence supposed to explain everything? The ending of DR2 was very open, since they only mentioned how Hinata and the others stayed on Jabberwock Island waiting for their "dead" friends to wake up. Time has obviously passed so there is no reason why if the Ultimate Despairs woke up, they wouldn't be in their Ultimate Despair personas. So yes, I played the game, and your answer was short and kinda stupid, since you didn't explain why you thought my theory was stupid. ??? You dont seem to understand how time and ageing works i guess. Yea, time and aging works like in reality when it comes to anime even though most of Ultimate Despair look the same age as when they were in Highschool and so do most of the Future Foundation. Just like how Chisa and Munakata both look like they did those years ago. Are you ever going to stop the one sentence answers? It's been around 3 years after the "Incident" started... So not changing in 2-3 years is not surprising...unless we're talking about Hiyoko... My issue is that I have no idea what he/she is talking about. My theory that time has passed and the Ultimate Despairs have woken up is valid, even if just weeks or months have gone by. Yet he answers with "You dont seem to understand how time and ageing works i guess." I have no idea what he is trying to say, so I stipulated that he is saying if time has passed, the people must have gotten older. But since what I am saying makes no sense to him, what he is saying makes on sense to me either. Well, to be fair, I guess sarcasm doesn't translate well on the Internet. I was being sarcastic about aging working the same way in anime and reality. You know, how characters never seem to look their age? |
Aug 1, 2016 2:55 PM
#150
MightyM16 said: Riveon said: MightyM16 said: Riveon said: MightyM16 said: Riveon said: Seriously?! I heard about Monaca, but didn't expect to see her in this. Also didn't play her game, since is only on PS Vita Kodaka can't even count to 3... MightyM16 said: OrangeJP said: _AnimeLover__ said: OrangeJP said: It is not a suspicious person. If you have watch the Ultra Despair Girls, you should already know who she isPretty cool action scenes in this episode Suspicious character appears at the end I know who Monaca is, but this is an anime discussion, not a game discussion. For people who haven't played the game, it's better not to spoil anything and let them find out who she is by watching the anime. Playing the game is a must for this anime though If playing spin-off game is must, then this should be labeled as Danganronpa 4 not 3. Another episode is just a spin off if you look at it in a gameplay perspective since it's story is extremely relevant to the DR franchise and part of the canon timeline http://danganronpa-timeline.tumblr.com/ Spin-offs extend story and world, so of course they often canon. But they never should be important to understand main work. If they do, then that means that they are no longer spin-offs, but part of main work. And that would pretty much make this anime Danganronpa 4. AE is part of the main work, it's just not called "3" because of the different gameplay and perspective it offered Monaca is extremely relevant to the tragedy and to what Junko's plan was, she is set up as the "next Junko" at the end of AE, wanting her not to appear in the final installment of the Hope's Peak saga is basically wanting a plot hole to manifest itself So you pretty much say that the author failed math class, since your speech still doesn't explain why this anime is called "3". By logic 1->2->3 not 1->2->some other bullshit->3 Honestly, I just hope that they would somehow explain her existence here, without "go play game" route. I'm saying that just because a game isn't considering a main game, it doesn't means it adds nothing to the game story AE is relevant, it always was and you just have to deal with it I never said that such things shouldn't add anything to the story. They just shouldn't add anything IMPORTANT, that is needed to understand the main title. I can "deal with it" as long as they would characterize Monaca from zero, without the need of any knowledge about her past. |
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