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Jul 31, 2016 1:20 PM

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It's very uncommon when there's two romantic rivals in fiction to ingratiate one of them with the audience to this extent, and neglect the other to the point of triviality. If that's done, it should be clear as day that the one we've spent the most time with, and gotten to know better, would be the de facto love interest. That'd be Rem.

But here, you got the exact opposite happening. There's almost nothing to latch onto with Emilia except some shallow small talk. It grates against everything you've just been witness to.

The fact that this became like a shippingwars discussion is kind of the author's fault, he wrote it in a way where shippingwars would be inevitable.
 
Jul 31, 2016 1:21 PM
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After what Rem said, I would totally fall for her. That is the girl I want. I understand how Sabaru feels about loving Emilia. I have been in that situation before.

Who knows, Sabaru might change his mind in the future.

This episode almost got me teary eyed. It takes a lot to make me cry.
 
Jul 31, 2016 1:21 PM

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Fuck yeah finally, I knew subaru was a selfloathing bastard based on his character setting, all he needed was someone to tell him that he's not as bad as he makes himself out to be, even if he's empty he can just start everything from zero his entire persona.

GOD FUCKING DAMN I KNEW IT, GOD TIER REDEMPTION. HYPE FOR BAMF SUBARU NEXT Ep

AAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAA
 
Jul 31, 2016 1:22 PM
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The timing was NOT off.

See this is what I mean.

I already posted this earlier from another place. It's the same thing I'm gonna say anyway so I just copied it.

"Subaru rejected Rem and that was a pretty noble thing he did in that scene, because in the novel it was described that he couldn't lie Rem about it because it would mean insulting her after all she did for him, which is why he chooses to tell her the truth about his feelings."

You're not the one invested in Emilia. It's Subaru. People seem to forget how much he has not wavered on that. He had no time to fall in love with Rem considering how crazy he went for the past, I dunno, 6 episodes.
 
Jul 31, 2016 1:22 PM
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i cannot believe subaru could possibly choose emilia over rem
 
Jul 31, 2016 1:23 PM
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Rem was awesome this episode, a true heroine.

Questionable as Subaru's choice could be, being completely (and brutally) honest was the only fair thing to do in the face of Rem's own honesty and unfaltering loyalty. It's the best thing he's done so far since the start of the arc (Not a difficult accomplishment though XD)

I'm guessing Subaru's BSOD trip is finally over? it certainly took a while, but seems like we're somewhere at last (point zero or whatever).
"Against stupidity the gods themselves contend in vain"
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Jul 31, 2016 1:23 PM

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Puck becoming badass, Also love the design for the character in its more monstrous form. seriously hyping as fuck.

And more suffering for subaru. Really wonderful and executed episode, the whole scene with subaru and Rem was just fantastic. really got me emotional as well, the feels for Rem gets immediately rejected and asked for help. grrr, cruel...
Either way is just one Amazing chemistry. and soo excited what episode 19 has to offer!! <3


More Torture Porn, More Subaru Suffering, More Rem Rejections.


Dont forget more subaru death.and subaru's craycray face
cause MAL is doing there job for once.
 
Jul 31, 2016 1:23 PM

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People's reaction to Subaru's "I love Emilia"


I'm level on mal-badges. View my badges.

 
Jul 31, 2016 1:23 PM

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This was a major revelations episode for suburu admitting what he ignored and starting fresh, this was the best episode yet!
 
Jul 31, 2016 1:24 PM
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I can honestly say that this is the most boring anime episode of any fucking series.

Both characters made their points in 3 minutes and then repeated themselves for another 23 minutes.

I don't get why people are praising 1:1 adaptation. There's a good reason studios don't make them very often. White Fox wasted a whole episode when they could make the whole conversation 15minutes shorter and it would still made the same impact.
 
Jul 31, 2016 1:25 PM

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Goddamn

This idiot never learn just when i thought he becomes better after realise his trashiness and being comforted by a girl love everything good that left in him, he turn Emilia card again
 
Jul 31, 2016 1:25 PM

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The saltiness in the voting. Well, that's MAL for you.

Well, MAL wouldn't recognize masterpiece episode even if it was right before their eyes....
 
Jul 31, 2016 1:26 PM
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Guys ..... i think i just fall in love with a fictional character


All of us did, my man, all of us.
 
Jul 31, 2016 1:27 PM
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The turning point of the series, devalued because people do not understand why Subaru rejected Rem.

I can't believe it turned out this way.

I saw this coming from a mile away lol. People are too dumb for this anime in every way possible. I like how i can count out all people who watch anime for shipping wars though xD

What did you expect, really? Romance was a major part of this episode so of course the shippers will commence in debate. how are people dumb for discussing the very thing that was showcased in the episode?
 
Jul 31, 2016 1:27 PM

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All they did was talk about pointless things the entire episode. Waste of my time. Best parts were Subaru's crazy faces.

Rem got rejecteeeed.

How the heck did Subaru shatter anyway?

I guess the episode was more feelsy than plotsy. Nah, not even feelsy. Subaru just rambles too much. He's annoying. Too dramatic.


...Pointless? Okay...
 
Jul 31, 2016 1:28 PM
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Fuck Subaru. Fuck Emilia. Fuck this show. The author can go fuck himself too Im done.
I truly wish that when Emilia died in episode 17 it was permanent


don't let the door hit you on the way out. :)
 
Jul 31, 2016 1:28 PM

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Great episode! I got emotional at many points during Subarus' speech and this episodes assured all of us that he has now fully realized his weakness and will start over strong after all the trial and error he had gone through.

Have to give props to Rem för supporting Subaru a LOT during their small adventure. If she didn't stick with Subaru, he'd be even more hopeless than the state he was in earlier, or would've given up way earlier than this far.

I think it was a bit harsh for Subaru for rejecting but I can understand as someone mentioned; "love is blind" and we can't forget the fact that Subaru met Emilia first and fought his first baby fights alongside her and for her. Rem is very kind and loving but Subaru has already set his sail towards Emilia way back so logic can't even alter Subaru anymore. I think love is way beyond the power of logic in many cases, it just pops at a moment without any explanation (could be from looks or personality) and sticks with you whether you actually wanted it or not.

I hope they will be able to wrap things up in this arc nicely with Subarus' comeback!

 
Jul 31, 2016 1:28 PM
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It was the main step for Subaru to find his courage back. The way they made it was really good it was about to understand those 2 main character's feelings and looking at the situation with their own eyes. ıt was really good episode and he accept himself as slothfull in the end which will connect him to future. Nice backgroud placement with nice song.
 
Jul 31, 2016 1:28 PM

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Dude Rem is a godess for someone like subaru i swear ....
 
Jul 31, 2016 1:29 PM

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Ein said:
Smudy said:

I saw this coming from a mile away lol. People are too dumb for this anime in every way possible. I like how i can count out all people who watch anime for shipping wars though xD

What did you expect, really? Romance was a major part of this episode so of course the shippers will commence in debate. how are people dumb for discussing the very thing that was showcased in the episode?

The very thing that was showcased here was Subaru's resolve and acknowledgement of his shitty self.
 
Jul 31, 2016 1:29 PM
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The saltiness in the voting. Well, that's MAL for you.

Well, MAL wouldn't recognize masterpiece episode even if it was right before their eyes....


agree on that point.. so many people watching this anime for the wrong reasons
 
Jul 31, 2016 1:30 PM

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Re:Zero once again proving that it is AOTY especialy when ya get an episode of only 2characters talking and they even had to extend it for 2mins so that they could fit it all and didnt even include a OP/ED and yet it was still freakin awesome.
Really huge bow to the ppl that are makin this anime. I simply cannot imagine not getting a 2nd season when the series has become suge a huge success at jpn.


But they are gonna adapt all of the LN up to this point. I'm not sure how the Web Novel works and if that is adaptable. If it isn't than we'd have to wait possibly 2 years for a season 2.

Not sure but i think i heard that the web novel has arc4 and 5 already but else ye as long as its within 2years it would be great if we get the 2nd season
 
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mozgow said:
Sury said:
The saltiness in the voting. Well, that's MAL for you.

Well, MAL wouldn't recognize masterpiece episode even if it was right before their eyes....


Just like subaru .....
 
Jul 31, 2016 1:31 PM
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The timing was NOT off.

See this is what I mean.

I already posted this earlier from another place. It's the same thing I'm gonna say anyway so I just copied it.

"Subaru rejected Rem and that was a pretty noble thing he did in that scene, because in the novel it was described that he couldn't lie Rem about it because it would mean insulting her after all she did for him, which is why he chooses to tell her the truth about his feelings."

You're not the one invested in Emilia. It's Subaru. People seem to forget how much he has not wavered on that. He had no time to fall in love with Rem considering how crazy he went for the past, I dunno, 6 episodes.


Well...can't argue with that.
You're right in everything you said

BUT REM BEST GIRL!!!!!!
 
Jul 31, 2016 1:31 PM

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In the first place you have to understand that humans act in irrational ways and can you find it in yourself to argue that love is not one of the most irrational human expressions of affection? I think it's much better that he rejected her, because even if someone loves you very much it is bonkers to assume they have a duty to love you back that is what psychotic stalkers think like.
 
Jul 31, 2016 1:32 PM
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MC rejects best girl ever #Remmarryme

me:

 
Jul 31, 2016 1:32 PM
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Rem would definitely be a good mother. She has the ability to be as patient as necessary with an overly emotional toddler.
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Jul 31, 2016 1:32 PM
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All these complaints. Wow.


We can't have a story be told from a point of view who is genuinely flawed like an actual person without people hating it.
 
Jul 31, 2016 1:33 PM
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Ein said:

What did you expect, really? Romance was a major part of this episode so of course the shippers will commence in debate. how are people dumb for discussing the very thing that was showcased in the episode?

The very thing that was showcased here was Subaru's resolve and acknowledgement of his shitty self.

And how was it done? Through the use of romance. And people get upset when it's brought up in discussions? Subaru's development was one that everyone could see from a mile away which is why it left less of an impact than the whole deal with his relationship with Rem. It's not senseless for the balance to tip in favor of one topic of discussion that left more of an impact.
 
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Well, MAL wouldn't recognize masterpiece episode even if it was right before their eyes....


agree on that point.. so many people watching this anime for the wrong reasons

I guess that's me. I don't watch it for romance so this ep had literally zero impact for me, just a waste of time. Tbh, I'm pretty angry right now, I really want to like this show but it's getting ridiculously hard.
 
Jul 31, 2016 1:34 PM
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Fuck you Subaru!
You friendzoned Rem?! Seriously ?


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After watching Rem desperately trying to save Subaro, died countless of times and always stays beside him, I don't like Emilia for Subaro anymore. I am more onto RemxSubaro. But damn, that was a huge Friendzone for Rem. "But I love Emilia" was that the line? Shittt.. That was the Oscar Awards for best Friendzone category. I like rem so much.


Remzoned*

Im really sorry
 
Jul 31, 2016 1:34 PM
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Awesome episode. I've been scrolling through the comments and there were two points I wanted to share. Both revolve around the whole Rem/Subaru/Emilia love triangle. One is speculation on Rem's ship sinking. Thing is, I don't think the author sunk it because he prefers Emilia (he still might but that's beside the point) I think he sunk it due to the psychological nature of the series. He wants the viewers to suffer. That's a big part of why this anime/LN/WN is so good. It's great at doing that. So taking a character that no one thought would see much use besides fanservice twin maid and putting her on a pedestal to incite a "waifu war" and crushing over half his fanbase in one heart-rending phrase is utterly genius for his goal of making us suffer. Think of it as another level of torture. Now my second point plays off the first. From what I can see this writer is no amateur. Saying "I love Emilia." Is bad writing from first glance. After all that, why? Why say that with no explanation? Well, that's what I've been stumped on. There's 2 answers I can see provided the sudden shift in direction was meant to piss off Rem fans. 1. Subaru has some hidden agenda. Maybe he loves Rem but doesn't think he deserves her? Maybe he's just using Emilia as an excuse since it got him this far? Maybe it's just his twisted personality. We shall see if any of these are the case. 2. Maybe Satella's power reaches further than is obvious. Having the power to manipulate time and cross dimensions is Whiz from DBZ level power, actually far beyond that. The jealous witch who yearned for love forcibly manipulating someone into loving someone with her image doesn't seem too far fetched. Also as far his love for Rem, he loves her. Romantically or platonically will be answered at end of WN/LN. We did see him go insane and damn near tear his hands off the wall to reach her. Even green hair lady (not gonna even try to spell her name) could tell that loop wasnt about saving Emilia. It was to avenge Rem.
 
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agree on that point.. so many people watching this anime for the wrong reasons

I guess that's me. I don't watch it for romance so this ep had literally zero impact for me, just a waste of time. Tbh, I'm pretty angry right now, I really want to like this show but it's getting ridiculously hard.


but this wasn't about romance, this was about a shitty selfloathing individual coming to terms with his own shittiness the romance wasn't the focus it was the R E D E M P T I O N
 
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I mean in what way does Emilia deserve Subaru's love?! If he had chosen Rem, then this would probably become my favourite anime of all time. I can't get over it... :'(
 
Jul 31, 2016 1:36 PM
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I guess that's me. I don't watch it for romance so this ep had literally zero impact for me, just a waste of time. Tbh, I'm pretty angry right now, I really want to like this show but it's getting ridiculously hard.


but this wasn't about romance, this was about a shitty selfloathing individual coming to terms with his own shittiness the romance wasn't the focus it was the R E D E M P T I O N

and it was 20 minutes too long
 
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it's funny to see how those self-declared true Rem fanboys are reacting. The LN is still ongoing, things can change and anything can still happen. Instead of carrying on rooting and believing they cry as if the world had ended.
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I mean in what way does Emilia deserve Subaru's love?! If he had chosen Rem, then this would probably become my favourite anime of all time. I can't get over it... :'(


BECAUSE LOVE DOESN'T WORK LIKE THAT, JUST BECAUSE SOMEONE WILL DIE FOR YOU DOESN'T MEAN YOU SHOULD, IF YOU DO THAT JUST BECAUSE OF THAT AND NOT BECAUSE YOU LOVE THEM BACK IT'S JUST STUPID.

AAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAA
 
Jul 31, 2016 1:38 PM

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I guess that's me. I don't watch it for romance so this ep had literally zero impact for me, just a waste of time. Tbh, I'm pretty angry right now, I really want to like this show but it's getting ridiculously hard.


but this wasn't about romance, this was about a shitty selfloathing individual coming to terms with his own shittiness the romance wasn't the focus it was the R E D E M P T I O N


But he did that about 4 times already in the series...
 
Jul 31, 2016 1:39 PM

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It was bad. I don't believed a single phrase of them. I liked ReZero for its plot, not for the shitty waifu wars. It looks like the author thinks differently. Btw, Subaru deserves every insult he told about himself. I just hope that series will really start from zero and make him less unrealistically broken inside
 
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Why oh why do they have to sink the Rem x Subaru ship so brutally. So my quick thoughts I know a lot of people are saying author has shipped Emilia x Subaru since episode 1 so obviously he's gunna stick with her, and someone else mentioned you can't expect Subaru's feelings to just change suddenly that'd be strange, I disagree. There has been tons of emotional support and development between rem and subaru making his feelings of love much more believable then the "love at first sight" with Emilia; especially after the past few episodes which he has admitted that all his actions for her have mostly been for self-satisfaction since he hates himself so much. I also still have hope for Rem x Subaru because a first love and true love are two completely different things. Just because he loved Emilia first doesn't mean he can't eventually fall for rem. The author and people have also stated this is supposed to be a deconstruction of the genre so I think it would be nice if the main protagonist doesn't end up with the main heroine like in every other light novel and anime series. Anyway Rem x Subaru forever, but great episode and don't want to take anything from that, but had to get my feelings out lol. Rem's monologue was just so powerful, and gave me the feels so hard.
 
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The only question I have is, Why was Puck placing Emilia's death on Subaru when puck wasn't there to protect her in the first place?

I remember in one of the past episodes, Emilia was already dead and Puck was on a rampage by the time Subaru had arrived. Or I'm just mixing everything up.
 
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This episode was phenomenal... And this is coming from a guy who's read both the LN and the WN. Just simply one of the best adapted episodes I have ever watched in an anime, the voice acting, the OST and just the overtone of this episode made me cry twice!

It's so damn good man, I don't think some of you guys can truly appreciate in how good this episode really was and just simply how this was one of the greatest ever turning points of a character in anime.

Man, I'm now really hyped for what's about to come. And for those who love war tactics... You'll absolutely be overwhelmed by how awesome the fight against the White Whale will be...
 
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Verticel said:
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but this wasn't about romance, this was about a shitty selfloathing individual coming to terms with his own shittiness the romance wasn't the focus it was the R E D E M P T I O N

and it was 20 minutes too long



If it took 5 mins after all what we've been through I would have been furious, we never would have learned that Subaru was actually a very self loathing person with deep rooted psychological problems that have plagued him for the latter part of his life even before he got tp'd to this world, and m'man swoops in here and solves it in the sweet sweet time of 20 mins? Not too long nor too short, hell yeah
 
Jul 31, 2016 1:41 PM
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but this wasn't about romance, this was about a shitty selfloathing individual coming to terms with his own shittiness the romance wasn't the focus it was the R E D E M P T I O N


But he did that about 4 times already in the series...


no different than real life.. when you are stubborn.. it'll take a few times to finally get it
 
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i love the way you think bro :D ..


Thanks man, it's good to vent these things since the rest of the week is like, "Is it Sunday yet? Is it Sunday yet?! WHY THE FUCK ISN'T IT SUNDAY YET?!"


ikr,, when the new episode already out " Finallly!!!" and then after finish watched "Fuck i have to wait a whole week again!!!" lol
 
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Woah it was so painful to sit through I had to force myself through this.

Did not give a single flying fuck about what they had to say. Ever since what looked like the climax is approaching with the buildup in episode 15 or 16, don't remember, the anime started going down and the whole excitement stalled. Now we get this, a full episode of shitalk. Whatever was tried it failed miserably because it was done way over the top to the point where you just start rolling your eyes and ask them to move on with this. I mean those South American melodramas do not even go as far as this went.
 
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BokuNoHawky said:
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I mean in what way does Emilia deserve Subaru's love?! If he had chosen Rem, then this would probably become my favourite anime of all time. I can't get over it... :'(


BECAUSE LOVE DOESN'T WORK LIKE THAT, JUST BECAUSE SOMEONE WILL DIE FOR YOU DOESN'T MEAN YOU SHOULD, IF YOU DO THAT JUST BECAUSE OF THAT AND NOT BECAUSE YOU LOVE THEM BACK IT'S JUST STUPID.

AAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAA


That's not true. It's like saying you're gonna go ahead and love some random person on the street, when the person who you're meant for is right next to you, and always has been right next to you. All Emilia has ever done was reject Subaru's efforts. That's just BS. Rem is the BEST waifu! #REMBESTWAIFU
 
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TheEnd3r said:
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but this wasn't about romance, this was about a shitty selfloathing individual coming to terms with his own shittiness the romance wasn't the focus it was the R E D E M P T I O N


But he did that about 4 times already in the series...


There's difference between coming to terms with it, and then being hit back with that same conviction over and over again. There was a deep underlying but simple to understand problem here the one thing that stayed constant until now, is that he hated himself and as the series progressed he became more self aware of this fact, this episode was the breaking point.

AAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAA
 
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Beautiful episode. Crying my eyes out non stop. Rem 😍
 
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Everyones flinging their shit.
This is a good episode. lol
 
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