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Aug 5, 2016 2:52 AM

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maisieb973 said:
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I feel. Tbh if the past changed to the extent that Naho chose Kakeru over Suwa (despite Suwa being her ... true route (?) then that would be just merciless. I don't think the past should change that much. Just Kakeru getting saved is good enough.


Agreed :~) I wonder how the whole black hole parallel universe thing will come into it tho - will there be only one true route or multiple? Hmm

I personally like the theory that you must lose something in order to gain something if you want to change the past. If they are gonna save Kakeru, they should sacrifice something of equal importance to keep an equilibrium(then again, this is just how I think time-travel should work)
 
Aug 5, 2016 5:01 AM

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We Steins;Gate now.

Hopefully the parallel worlds thing works like that within this series, I really like Kakeru x Naho but I'd hate to break up future Suwa x Naho.
 
Aug 5, 2016 7:01 AM

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Ueda is such a bitch :')
 
Aug 5, 2016 1:50 PM

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I wish this anime would take the next episode into an action apocalyptic world where Ueda will die a horrible death. XD

I like Naho, best character
 
Aug 5, 2016 2:55 PM
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I think it was that best episode so far. The "time travel" lecture seemed a bit weird but otherwise ... Suwa's the best.
 
Aug 5, 2016 6:51 PM
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Where did you get that from?
At the very least I remember Steins;Gate being mentioned in the PV.
it was the director who was same,not the writer...
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Aug 5, 2016 10:14 PM

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Suwa's a bro, for sure.

I hope he doesn't end up getting screwed in the future, if Naho somehow manages to save Kakeru. It's difficult. Kakeru's a good guy too...
 
Aug 6, 2016 3:24 AM

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I had forgotten that the writer also wrote Steins;Gate, but this theory reminded me.
Great episode, they are getting closer
 
Aug 6, 2016 11:15 AM

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Oh my~ Okabe Rintarou talking about time travel in science class.

Ueda's still a bitch, but Naho's finally following the letters like she was supposed to.

Suwa, my man. Those tears of joy got to me :') Bro of the season material right here.








 
Aug 7, 2016 4:18 AM
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TragicRomance said:
maisieb973 said:


Agreed :~) I wonder how the whole black hole parallel universe thing will come into it tho - will there be only one true route or multiple? Hmm

I personally like the theory that you must lose something in order to gain something if you want to change the past. If they are gonna save Kakeru, they should sacrifice something of equal importance to keep an equilibrium(then again, this is just how I think time-travel should work)


Wooooahh that's such an interesting concept. Imagine if Suwa got sacrificed or something..
 
Aug 7, 2016 9:54 AM

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Suwa is the fucking man, seriously. The episode made me felt like shit knowing that Naho doesn't loves him, and even in the future, when both are married, she thinks of him like a second dish to Kakeru. At least, if what that professor talked in the class is supposed to be a way to understand how future Naho sends the cards, that means the future timeline won't change, so Suwa will still have that fake happiness at least.

Ueda continues to being a bitch to Naho even when she broke with Kakeru. Meh.
 
Aug 7, 2016 11:54 AM

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maisieb973 said:
TragicRomance said:

I personally like the theory that you must lose something in order to gain something if you want to change the past. If they are gonna save Kakeru, they should sacrifice something of equal importance to keep an equilibrium(then again, this is just how I think time-travel should work)


Wooooahh that's such an interesting concept. Imagine if Suwa got sacrificed or something..

If they did that, that would be too horrible to Suwa haha
 
Aug 7, 2016 4:45 PM

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Classic shoujo bullying lmao.

Naho's been improving. Good to see.
 
Aug 7, 2016 11:49 PM

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A decent classroom discussion that is precise to acadamia and what the mainstream discusses. However the mathematics of black holes and relativity are broken, thus the whole topic is void.

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It was nice to see the little info on Time travel, Though if I were to speak science it is not possible to travel to the past via black holes and event horizons. As per general relativity it is only possible to travel to the future. Anyway that's off topic.
Continuum has not and cannot be violated. The past is remaining vibrations, the future hasn't happened. All that physically exists is the present. Even in relativity, when setting aside Einstein's ignorance, slowing down your atomic field motion would only make it SEEM like you went to the future, however you will have gone there at the same speed as everything else, just with less internal change, and stretched perception.

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maisieb973 said:
Agreed :~) I wonder how the whole black hole parallel universe thing will come into it tho - will there be only one true route or multiple? Hmm
I personally like the theory that you must lose something in order to gain something if you want to change the past.
You're talking about plot devices and mechanic, there is no empirical evidence for any of what you're talking about in reality. No parallel universes or any of that, that's mathematical conjecture (by mathemagicians), no matter how much they might try to call it a theory. It does mix things up i guess, though i tend to prefer when actions are written in stone, even if they aren't linear (you go to the past, but things happen as they do because you always were going to, and all actions taken are unwittingly destined by necessity).


Not trying to criticize the show, i like time travel stories, just need to be aware that they are pure fantasy is all :)

I hope she manages to save Kakeru or at least is by his side when he dies.
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Aug 8, 2016 2:38 AM

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GenesisAria said:

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It was nice to see the little info on Time travel, Though if I were to speak science it is not possible to travel to the past via black holes and event horizons. As per general relativity it is only possible to travel to the future. Anyway that's off topic.
Continuum has not and cannot be violated. The past is remaining vibrations, the future hasn't happened. All that physically exists is the present. Even in relativity, when setting aside Einstein's ignorance, slowing down your atomic field motion would only make it SEEM like you went to the future, however you will have gone there at the same speed as everything else, just with less internal change, and stretched perception.

Agreed, The present is all there is. The black hole travel to the future is just you perceiving time differently. Just that the fact that your perception of the world at that point since you have aged less makes it seem like you traveled to the future. Time Dilation is the word if I'm not wrong
 
Aug 8, 2016 5:50 AM

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Lelouch0202 said:
GenesisAria said:

Continuum has not and cannot be violated. The past is remaining vibrations, the future hasn't happened. All that physically exists is the present. Even in relativity, when setting aside Einstein's ignorance, slowing down your atomic field motion would only make it SEEM like you went to the future, however you will have gone there at the same speed as everything else, just with less internal change, and stretched perception.

Agreed, The present is all there is. The black hole travel to the future is just you perceiving time differently. Just that the fact that your perception of the world at that point since you have aged less makes it seem like you traveled to the future. Time Dilation is the word if I'm not wrong

That's relativistic time dilation yes. There's no such thing as a black hole though. The only thing the math for a black hole matches in reality is the reciprocating hyberbaloid ("hole in the doughnut") of the magnetic field torus.
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Aug 8, 2016 3:45 PM

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I haven't cried during an anime episode for a looooong time. This one killed me. I loved it. It made me cry so hard. Why is this so cute and tragic at the same time?

It is an orange,sweet but bitter in the end

Now you lighted up so simply why this anime could be called like this. Never had actually thought about. So true. Thanks kalim ;)

What a great, interesting episode. Best part imo was the conversation between Kakeru and Naho when speaking about if they would travel to the past or to the future, both having another opinion.

The theory with the black holes and the warping time is interesting and logic itself as it fits to Nahos' story. Excited to hear more about it.

Suwa is increasing more and more in becoming one of my favourite characters. This guy must have a tough time while seeing his beloved one going out (even if Naho denies it) with his what we can already call best friend Kakeru, and yet he acts as a true friend would and supports the two. His coolness reputation helps him in a sort of way to hide his feelings, because loving someone and seeing this person be with another dude hurts bad, we all know that. I really think that in Suwas tears at the end, there was also a bit of pain in it.

What makes me think is that, despite believing that Suwa truly wants to help Kakeru and Naho being together, there are situations where he helps Naho out and that she is greatful to him, leaving me to the suspect that this can eventaully lead for Naho to develop love feelings for Suwa and vice versa. But I like Naho and Kakeru, but at the same time also Suwa, so it's kinda sad.

I got also very emotional when Kakeru gave Naho his present. A barrette. I remember giving as a present to the first girl I was in love with also a barrette. What a casualty. Memories came back. :)

Continue like that Orange. Great anime.
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Aug 8, 2016 4:54 PM

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Wow, so Naho's finally taking things into her own hands huh? Well, this episode REALLY sold me on how great a guy Suwa is. Knows he's got no chance with Naho so he actually helps in getting her together with Kakeru? Dang. Not to mention Kakeru at least respecting him enough to ask for his permission basically. Kinda sucks how even in the "other" future she still kinda longs for Kakeru huh? We get a bit of talk about parallel worlds and stuff too. Yeah yeah it's obviously not gonna be entirely correct (like black holes to the past :P) but at least they offer a possibility. Anyway, nice to see Naho recognizing what Suwa's doing for her, even if it required a bit of prompting. Her actually asking Kakeru to the fireworks was a big step forward too. Too bad the art was kind of bad this episode though, it got kind of distracting at times, which is never a good thing >_<
 
Aug 9, 2016 4:48 PM

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Suwa is right on time saving Naho, and this officially makes notice that Suwa also likes Naho, but still rooting for Naho x Kakeru because this is for the happiness of Naho...for now...
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Aug 9, 2016 7:49 PM

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I love Suwa soooo much ;( He deserves more than this, dammit!
 
Aug 11, 2016 3:22 PM
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Great how Suwa was finally given the episode he deserves! This episode was also a huge step forward for the direction of Kakeru and Naho's relationship.
 
Aug 12, 2016 10:58 AM

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Nope, the future can't be probably changed, but the many regrets would be gone.
It's nice to watch how the present always converges to predetermined future.

I still think Suwa is more fit for Kaho than Kakeru, she really cares for her. Dunno, it would meant breaking their happy future if it was otherwise.

Kakeru is her crush but Suwa is he love (or would be), they will probably go out with each other with but by now she know that Suwa would be by her time when times comes.
 
Aug 12, 2016 6:58 PM

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Nope, the future can't be probably changed, but the many regrets would be gone.

Yeah, that's what I'm thinking is going to happen. I've never read the manga or anything, but since the letters from future self are unchanged to match with her current past (unless it can somehow travel between parallel worlds), then it's possible that he can't be saved. But at least she'll be able to live in the peace in the future knowing she did everything she could.
At some point, fate has to play a hand.

Anyway, I was all for Kakeru at first, but seeing how lovely Suwa is, I'm beginning to lean towards him. I can actually see how much he cares for Naho. Kakeru, on the other hand, is just sort of.. a pretty boy, a first crush.

Don't really know what they see in Naho, though. She is slightly less annoying than her other typical shoujo twins, partly because she's the first twin I've actually seen taking the initiative in a relationship and not being so damn shy, but she's cut from the same fabric of personalites used in all the other anime. I'm pretty sure it's the same voice actor, too. As soon as I heard her speak, I was like oh, she's one of those characters. The really shy, nice one who somehow gets all the guys to fall for her while being plain and boring.

I guess it could be worse. She going be one of those overused annoying tsunderes.

The ending got really fascinating. I can't wait for the next episode. I wonder what Suwa's letters are!!! (Probably to let Naho be with Kakeru??)

Dammit, Naho. If only you followed your first letter ever. That was all you had to do. It even said "seriously." I never understood why she wasn't allowed to invite him that first time, but now it all makes sense... *deep sigh* so many feels
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Aug 14, 2016 6:03 AM

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Pretty simple I think

Animation quality is going in the drain unfortunately

MC was cute when she was getting the bollocking
 
Aug 15, 2016 7:18 AM
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When the teacher talked about the future, time machines and parallel worls it kinda reminded me of Mirai Nikki.
nice Episode! Im ready for the feels!
 
Aug 15, 2016 8:13 AM

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Suwa's the best! Ueda is being Ueda again.

 
Aug 17, 2016 4:39 AM

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I feel bad for Suwa. He is really amazing...
 
Aug 23, 2016 2:57 AM

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So she can't really change the past? There's an alternate past and alternate future? Well, what's the point of the letter if they can't change anything, right?

Naho barely had a reaction to Suwa's non-semi-kinda-somewhat-confession. Poor guy... and to think you two had a cute baby together.

"Suwa is the one who saved my heart." I wonder what that means.
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Aug 28, 2016 12:16 PM

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Ueda, what a bitch. She and Kakeru broke up and she's still acting like she owns Kakeru? And bullying Naho like that? What a petty piece of scum person, hope she gets hit by a bus or falls off a really tall cliff.

Suwa, the poor child has to shoot himself in the foot to ship Kakeru x Naho like he does. Best bro, no lie.
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Aug 29, 2016 4:37 PM

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parallell worlds and shit? love the subject, but have heard to much about it, to many crazy people.still interesting,PLOT??. Great episode in other hand,awww Suwa!! you poor som bitch. and talk about bitch, Fucking jealous nippleheaded Senpai bitch-
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Aug 30, 2016 10:53 AM
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This is okabe in a different timeline and i won't let anyone tell me otherwise.
 
Aug 31, 2016 11:37 AM

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I know Naho likes Kakeru, but it pains me to see Suwa, he is such a nice guy, I cheer for him, I hope they can be together in this world version too...I guess it would be easier without Kakeru.
 
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Suwa your a true BRO!!!!! So glad to see he got his recognition and that the future self said how important he was to her.
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Suwa is so loyal to his friends, so sacrificial, if it means his friends are happy he is fine sacrificing his happiness, kinda like Naho said in episode 1.


When she said Arigatooo and Suwa cried, my emotions went wild. I was so happy that he felt happiness that i cried myself lol, like finally he gets something for him, even if it seems like a small thing, her thanking him, it's pretty significant for him, just like the letter said.

My only question is why a Chemistry teacher was talking possibilities of time machine and blackholes.
 
Sep 14, 2016 6:33 PM

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This show has some of the hardest ships ever. One of the few times I am perfectly split 50/50 between the 2 love interests, which means I will be heartbroken regardless of who wins :'(
 
Sep 17, 2016 5:51 AM
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Suwa's Rem. It's ok he has a soccer harem waiting.
Ueda went gangsta.
 
Sep 17, 2016 9:01 AM

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Interesting concepts brought in this episode, black holes, time machines..
Suwa is so niceee, we all need a friend like him!
 
Sep 27, 2016 10:20 PM

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Screw team Naho. IT'S ALL ABOUT TEAM SUWA. I know they're going for girl power/friendship but those two need to be more considerate for Suwa! Obviously he's not ok with it!

Suwa you the real MVP.
 
Sep 29, 2016 11:40 AM

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Super lovely episode, just loving the development! Ueda really is a bitch of a character!
 
Oct 3, 2016 1:34 PM
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Suwa best bro of 2016!
 
Oct 8, 2016 4:42 AM

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Naho's cluelessness is so frustrating.... she just ignores the announcement that Suwa likes her >.>
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Oct 10, 2016 10:26 PM

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Ueda is a huge cunt.
GOD DAMNIT SUWA IS THE BIGGEST BRO. I don't want a sad end for him argh.
 
Oct 12, 2016 7:22 PM

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kkyasarin said:
I haven't cried during an anime episode for a looooong time. This one killed me. I loved it. It made me cry so hard. Why is this so cute and tragic at the same time?


I agree! I can't help feeling both happy and sad while watching this.
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Oct 17, 2016 4:52 PM

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Man I can't tell if if I'm cringing really hard of if I'm just 'fangirling' on the inside :p Probably the latter. Seeing Suwa cry really made me happy. I definitely ship Naho x Kakeru, but I really want Suwa to be happy as well. I feel like that Ueda chick might end up causing more havoc in the near future.


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Nov 2, 2016 6:03 PM

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Wtf are they learning in school?
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Nov 7, 2016 8:41 PM

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It's all kinda fucked up tbh lol. Her future self wants to save Kakeru of course, but does she not care if that meant losing Suwa and having her child not exist?
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Nov 27, 2016 9:43 AM
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i almost made it through this episode without crying, but when i saw suwa get red and teary eyed i lost it. the real mvp. i feel really bad for him cause i ship naho and kakeru heavily
 
Dec 31, 2016 2:17 AM

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Never liked Ueda-senpai, this episode has only helped my dislike further!
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Jan 19, 2017 8:40 AM

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Ugh, the bitch with her bitch friends =________="
thank the lords for angel Suwa-kun.

His teary eyed blushing was too precious TTATT
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While having a high school lesson on time travel would be amazing, I can't imagine how that would even fit into a normal curriculum. Or, well, how the multiverse theory would fit into a high school level science class.
 
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