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Jul 31, 2016 8:23 AM

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THIS IS AN ANIME ONLY DISCUSSION POST. DO NOT DISCUSS THE MANGA BEYOND THIS EPISODE.
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Well this was interesting. The idea of time machine, black holes, and time travel being a topic they discussed in class (which ironically has ties with the show's plot elements)

Naho and Kakeru's bonding also gets stronger this episode.

I still really don't like that other girl for telling Naho to stay away from Kakeru. Well at least Suwa came to help her on time or that could of gotten bad. Good episode, liked the balance of the drama and sweet moments.
 
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Jul 31, 2016 9:46 AM

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The adaption is decent so far, hopefully the keep it like that.

 
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Jul 31, 2016 9:54 AM

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Pretty good episode. They explain parallel worlds which give you an idea of how the letters from the future work.

Ueda is still being a bitch -_-









 
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Jul 31, 2016 10:10 AM

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Aaah Ueda was here again, what a b*tch
I wish I had time travel class too '-'
 
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Jul 31, 2016 10:15 AM

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So this show does indeed follow DBZ style time travel. So...then I still feel terrible for Future Suwa. Future Naho sent the letter knowing it wouldn't change her future/present, what a slap in the face to him. If this was the episode meant to justify her doing that the reasoning just didn't work for me. She did it for closure? To move forward? I'd feel like garbage were I her husband knowing I couldn't give her that myself, and would always be second choice. Honestly, it's a shitty, unfair situation for both of them. It likely would have worked better for me had they not gotten together and had a child. She shoulda just married a random schmo who wasn't in their past and we felt no attachment towards.

To make this worse, Present Suwa is easily the best, most selfless character in the series so far. I do wonder if the show is gonna eventually change his characterization somehow though. Do something to try and make us root for Kakeru over him more, like have it revealed he's been lying to himself about supporting Naho and Kakeru and turn into a dick or something...guess we'll see...
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Jul 31, 2016 10:19 AM

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Suwa! You're too good. (ToT)

Seriously, Ueda, you already broke up with Kakeru.

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Jul 31, 2016 10:22 AM

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Whoa, even the teacher's talking about "time machine". Is there some kind of plot twist in it? LOL
Now Naho really following the "instruction" of the memo. At least until Ueda "strke again". Damn I'd really slap her if I'm in Suwa' place.
 
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Jul 31, 2016 10:26 AM

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Good adaptation and Suwa is the man!
 
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Jul 31, 2016 10:30 AM

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Suwa, you're a good man. He did everything for Naho.
 
Jul 31, 2016 10:34 AM

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I don't really like Ueda!

Suwa is sure a good man!
 
Jul 31, 2016 10:35 AM

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Suwa the real mvp.
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Jul 31, 2016 10:37 AM
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Kinda reminds me that the writer wrote Steins;Gate as well.
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Jul 31, 2016 10:46 AM

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Suwa is the true Hero in this Episode, standing applause for him.
 
Jul 31, 2016 10:47 AM

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I don't know who to root for ;_; Suwa and Kakeru are both great and deserve to be by her side. But at this point whoever she chooses i feel she'll be betraying herself.
 
Jul 31, 2016 10:49 AM

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Suwa is so cute, it's beautiful see how he likes naho.
 
Jul 31, 2016 10:51 AM
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simonli2575 said:
Kinda reminds me that the writer wrote Steins;Gate as well.

Where did you get that from?
 
Jul 31, 2016 10:52 AM

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Good episode again, Pacing has picked up. 2 chapters adapted this time around.

It was nice to see the little info on Time travel, Though if I were to speak science it is not possible to travel to the past via black holes and event horizons. As per general relativity it is only possible to travel to the future. Anyway that's off topic.

Ueda and her bullying :|

Suwa is the real bro, It's kinda hard not to root for him when you see how selfless of a character he is which will only become even more evident later on.
Kakeru's pretty cool as well, They both deserve to be with the person they like. :3

I could only smile when Suwa cried tears of joy xD
 
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Ein said:
simonli2575 said:
Kinda reminds me that the writer wrote Steins;Gate as well.

Where did you get that from?
At the very least I remember Steins;Gate being mentioned in the PV.
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Jul 31, 2016 10:52 AM

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So I'm gonna go ahead and assume the teacher's lecture about parallel worlds is supposed to serve as the explanation for how Naho is receiving these letters from the future. I guess that makes sense.

Judging by how the teacher explained the parallel world concept, it sounds like Future Naho's situation won't change. This makes me feel bad for Suwa even more. He already sacrifices so much for Naho, but like someone above said, he still seems to be Naho's second choice. Why else would she go to such great lengths to help cuurent Naho redo the past so that she ends up with Kakeru? It seems like she's not really happy being with Suwa, so she wants to make sure current Naho ends up with Kakeru so she can be truly happy, rather than being in the situation she's in.

Oh yeah, and Ueda is still being a bitch. I thought she'd be tossed to the side after her and Kakeru's break up, but apparently she's still somewhat relevant. Good thing Suwa came to back her up, once again showing why he's such a great guy.
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Jul 31, 2016 10:57 AM
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it's probably the first episode of orange that didn't make me cry omg but it was probably the first time naho thinks about kakeru's death and isn't as pessimistic about it like yea sure he still might die but at least she's giving up on regrets?? just like kakeru would want to do with his life??

i was too busy focusing on the time travelling and parallel universe theory but i'm not sure about the inconsistencies and the whole "if the past is changed then a new world forms" but hey if that's true then suwa's one sided love becomes/remains (?) complete and he marries naho!!

also i'd like to publicly declare my respect for suwa for choosing a selfless life and helping naho and kakeru get together while still being all happy go lucky, he is the literal sun of this universe and officially my favourite character
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Jul 31, 2016 11:04 AM

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Geez, Suwa's such a nice character. I feel really bad for him knowing that Naho is going to choose Kakeru over him. Also Naho was able to step out of her comfort zone this episode. Asking Kakeru to watch the fireworks with her was really outgoing for someone like her. She should feel very proud!
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Jul 31, 2016 11:05 AM

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best episode so far. finally naho gets a little bit more likeable. start to understand why so many love the manga. episode 4,5/5. anime still only a 6.5-7/10 though
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Jul 31, 2016 11:18 AM

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So that's what happened with Okabe. He grew up to be the Chemistry Teacher in that School. Tbh tough, 'time travel' belong to Physics and not Chemistry

Also, Suwa is the OneTrueBro
 
Jul 31, 2016 11:21 AM

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Great episode, the least frustrating one yet.
 
Jul 31, 2016 11:22 AM

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Solid episode, I really hate Ueda-senpai lol
 
Jul 31, 2016 11:23 AM
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I love it this episode. I think Kakeru and Naho could be forever.. but I like it Suwa because is so cute.
 
Jul 31, 2016 11:31 AM

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Aside from the incredibly enjoyable main cast, I love how all of the background characters are full of personality and act like real students and teachers. Most shows would forego adding that kind of depth to inconsequential characters, but this show frequently takes time to listen in on passersby and students in the classroom. It makes the world feel like a place that wasn't just made to present the story of Naho, Kakeru, and their friends.
 
Jul 31, 2016 11:34 AM

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This episode finally got me really into series. Kakeru is good guy but Suwa the best guy
 
Jul 31, 2016 11:47 AM

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Suwa is officially my waifu I call dibs
 
Jul 31, 2016 11:49 AM

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Orange is really good at creating this bittersweet feeling of foreboding. I don't remember any other show pulling such a refined line.
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Jul 31, 2016 11:50 AM
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it breaks my heart a little every time suwa shows how nice he is with naho
 
Jul 31, 2016 11:54 AM

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I actually teared up when Suwa cried omg hes the best
 
Jul 31, 2016 11:58 AM

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SpikeykoaLa said:
Aside from the incredibly enjoyable main cast, I love how all of the background characters are full of personality and act like real students and teachers. Most shows would forego adding that kind of depth to inconsequential characters, but this show frequently takes time to listen in on passersby and students in the classroom. It makes the world feel like a place that wasn't just made to present the story of Naho, Kakeru, and their friends.


I'm glad I wasn't the only one to notice this
 
Jul 31, 2016 11:59 AM

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the idea of time machine and parrel worlds...quite appealing as it is
 
Jul 31, 2016 12:10 PM

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Good episode. I love how supportive and nice Naho's friends all are, especially Suwa. Suwa is definitely this episode's MVP.

The part about time travel and stuff was interesting, too.

And Ueda-senpai's pettiness has reached its peak.

But... I never knew you could injure your hand just by slapping someone's hand away. And I didn't know band-aids should also be used for bruises. Two, even. I learn new stuff every day.
 
Jul 31, 2016 12:14 PM

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Honest I feel sorry for Suwa, such a good guy.

@simonli2575 Same director you mean.
 
Jul 31, 2016 12:23 PM
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It's for guys like suwa that I lose my mind. I wanna go hug him right now.
 
Jul 31, 2016 12:23 PM

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I'm really enjoying this show so far, though I didn't exactly understand their explanation on why Naho can't change the future. It seems I'm the only one here who ships Naho x Kakeru more than Naho x Suwa. I'll take Suwa for myself though.

That reminds me of the one thing that is really confusing to me. Future Naho is married to Suwa, and I understand why she wouldn't want her friend Kakeru to die, but she's intentionally bringing Naho closer to Kakeru by having her say she's not okay with Kakeru dating Ueda and stuff. Isn't that kinda like saying she'd rather be with Kakeru? lol
 
Jul 31, 2016 12:54 PM

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This has been the best episode...she isn't so dense anymore,she just goes to do what she is told and she was finally happy,and Suwa made me cry...the man is a treasure.
Side Note:I hope Ueda is hit by a bus,then when she is in hospital it goes into flames....the bitch
Side note 2:This episode was happy which mean ONE THING:FEELSTRAIN will get us into a coma in the near future
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Jul 31, 2016 12:54 PM

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of course suwa is important !! he is the best one
 
Jul 31, 2016 12:56 PM
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I have Ueda so much, i jsut want to punch her in the face for being an asshole, Unlike Suwa. Suwa is best bro, even better than Suna from Ore Monogatori.

Loved the episode, i hope that Kakeru confess to naho soon, i dont like waiting until the end of the series, i like seeing their life while they are dating
 
Jul 31, 2016 12:59 PM
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I'm really enjoying this show so far, though I didn't exactly understand their explanation on why Naho can't change the future. It seems I'm the only one here who ships Naho x Kakeru more than Naho x Suwa. I'll take Suwa for myself though.

That reminds me of the one thing that is really confusing to me. Future Naho is married to Suwa, and I understand why she wouldn't want her friend Kakeru to die, but she's intentionally bringing Naho closer to Kakeru by having her say she's not okay with Kakeru dating Ueda and stuff. Isn't that kinda like saying she'd rather be with Kakeru? lol


Well, as they explain in class this episode, Time travel work with different, parallel worlds. The Naho that is married with Suwa who send the letter, her present/future/past its NOT going to change, all is going to be the same, but the Naho that we are seeing reading the letters is changing her future. So if this Naho end up with Kakeru(I hope), The future/present of Naho who send the letter will NOT change.

And yes, maybe she prefer Kakeru but choose Suwa because Kakeru was dead? Who knows....(Manga readers know actually....i guess)
 
Jul 31, 2016 1:02 PM

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Suwa best bro. Gotta love this guy
 
Jul 31, 2016 1:26 PM

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Hot Guy: "So does bitch wanna make me a sandwich?"
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Jul 31, 2016 1:37 PM

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Poor Suwa, getting friendzoned hard and he's being a bro by trying to get Kakeru and Naho together.

Anyways, good episode like always. At this point it feels like Ueda's gonna do something really fucked up later so I'm not ready if that happens.
 
Jul 31, 2016 1:39 PM

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i really liked this episode, tho i'm not sure time travel would be a topic in high school, but it's plot-relevant so why the hell not ¯\_(ツ)_/¯ it explains why nothing seemed to change in the future. i wonder if we'll get an explanation for how exactly did the letters reach the past

as others pointed out, Naho's being kinda shit to best boy Suwa by writing the letters to bring herself and Kakeru together. can't they just share Naho and everyone would be happy?

i didn't think Ueda was this lowly.. she would've probably broken the hairpin but thankfully Suwa (srsly he's best boi) came to the rescue again \(^▽^)/ Naho must have super thin skin if she got bruises from slapping a girl's hand away

this anime makes me feel things and i'm waiting anxiously for the reveal of Kakeru's reason for suicide

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Jul 31, 2016 2:16 PM

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I haven't cried during an anime episode for a looooong time. This one killed me. I loved it. It made me cry so hard. Why is this so cute and tragic at the same time?
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Jul 31, 2016 2:21 PM

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I haven't cried during an anime episode for a looooong time. This one killed me. I loved it. It made me cry so hard. Why is this so cute and tragic at the same time?

It is an orange,sweet but bitter in the end
 
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Ueda-senpai , I really hate you
 
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