| I know some ppl love analyzing animus but some ppl just REALLY overdo it to a point where it gets disturbing. Like for example if stopping the animu and spotting a less detailed face, one can go like *oh no this is bad, that side characters face over there isnt detailed enough, thats definitely a minus in my book* etc Its even worse if u literally just sit there, watch an anime for 20+ minutes and question every lil shit thats displayed in front of you , whether it be the animation, artstyle, plot or character decisions and the events that happen. How can this be enjoyable when instead of just watching and enjoying the show u analyze it to an absurd level? Is this really the way ppl should watch anime? |
| Believe it or not, some people don't like to just sit there and watch it without complaints. |
| Just sit there and watch it without bitching. It might be explained later on. But after watching an anime and not liking it, you can talk about it however you want, cause it's called opinion. Personally, I analyze it after watching it completely, not just after each episode or so. |
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| that sounds incredibly annoying in a group viewing, unless you're all laughing at it. edit: like ur watching citizen kane - the anime, and the guy's points out fascinating facts like " no was around to hear rosebud!" throughout the movie. |
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ashfrliebert said: that sounds incredibly annoying in a group viewing, unless you're all laughing at it. I didnt even think of it like that xD Can u imagine how awful that would be? Like daymn xD |
| I just watch the anime and if I like it, it's good. If I don't like it, it's bad. Really simple lmao. |
| And why would you even be bothered by other opinions? such disturbing thoughts from anyone is common whether you like it or not. |
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| Some people have standards? Why should that be a problem. Let them watch an anime how they want to. |
| Digibro's "analysis" of k-on! is the epitome of this Personally I analyse stuff as I watch an anime, but only in the broad sense, I won't nitpick every little thing. |
| I think that is just anyone who tries anything they obviously dislike. |
Lobinde said: Digibro's "analysis" of k-on! is the epitome of this Personally I analyse stuff as I watch an anime, but only in the broad sense, I won't nitpick every little thing. Digi was reaching at quite a few parts of K-On! but he wasn't really picking out the flaws of it. What OP is referring to is more of his series on Asterisk War overanalysis. |
Paramvir said: Lobinde said: Digibro's "analysis" of k-on! is the epitome of this Personally I analyse stuff as I watch an anime, but only in the broad sense, I won't nitpick every little thing. Digi was reaching at quite a few parts of K-On! but he wasn't really picking out the flaws of it. What OP is referring to is more of his series on Asterisk War overanalysis. His analysis of K-on was almost entirely made out of praise but he was overanalysing it just the same, starting to talk about stuff that isn't even close to being related to k-on but yes the OP was talking about nitpicking, I just wanted to provide an example of the opposite |
DubstepKazoo said: Who are you to criticize how other people enjoy anime? If I think the animation is bad, if I think the plot is inconsistent, if I think the characters are annoying, if I think the soundtrack is dumb, then I'll say so, and that doesn't make me any better or worse than you. Well thats all reasonable but when u watch sht like that and literally make an anime watching into a analyze-fest, can u really enjoy anything at that point? That is why im asking this in the first place. Ofc ur allowed to voice ur opinion but im not talking about that really. Digibro is a great example of overanalyzis and sure, he can do whatever dafuq he wants but im asking really if u can enjoy stuff when watching it like that... |
| If the character designs don't give the characters realistic, human noses then it's objectively a shit anime Noses are the most important part of anime tbh |
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| People are free to analyze and have opinions on anime as much as they want. But when they START overreacting and bitching about it in the forums, that's where the hard part starts. I mean, you hated it? OK. But what's the point of trying to ruin other's enjoyment? I'm not totally against it. When the flaw is obvious, it's a given that people will complain. But when you start overly doing it, that's when shit starts getting bad！Even more if your complaint don't make any sense. Example : Saying "too much ecchi" in an ecchi anime and rating it bad. I mean, it already got the ecchi tag, so what did you expect? |
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On_the_Lam said: Did you mean the Neon Genesis Evangelion fandom? That must of taken you a whole of 2 seconds to come up with, nice one. |
On_the_Lam said: Did you mean the Neon Genesis Evangelion fandom? Whats so special about NGE? Tell me ples :3 |
| tl;dr: OP got salty because [insert youtuber here] criticised an anime they like |
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Robiiii said: On_the_Lam said: Did you mean the Neon Genesis Evangelion fandom? Whats so special about NGE? Tell me ples :3 Nothing, its just another overrated garbage. |
| This is every 'critic' on this site who thinks their opinion means something. It comes off as a waste of time to me. You didn't like the show? Great, move on and stop complaining about it weeks after its ended. |
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| it doesn't matter until they go off and start telling people that a show is good/bad because of it. Major123 said: This is every 'critic' on this site who thinks their opinion means something. It comes off as a waste of time to me. You didn't like the show? Great, move on and stop complaining about it weeks after its ended. the problem with your statement is that if people should stop complaining after it ends then people should also stop praising it after it ends, and if that happens, discussion about anything that isn't currently airing is null. |
| every single one of my forum posts is dumb and invalid except for 1, I don't claim them it was a different person it was all fake |
animezinghayden said: If I don't like something I just stop watching. The weird thing with anime fans is a lot of them tend to keep watching things they don't really like. Of course they are allowed to voice their opinions but it makes absolutely no fucking sense to keep watching something you don't like This is pretty much what I do too. Unless its something like Big Order where everyone was having a good laugh at its expense or Mayoiga. |
Lisbon said: If the character designs don't give the characters realistic, human noses then it's objectively a shit anime Noses are the most important part of anime tbh Confirmed: Vision of Escaflowne is GOAT. |
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| Still better than the "echchi is bad4u" crowd. |
Robiiii said: Its even worse if u literally just sit there, watch an anime for 20+ minutes and question every lil shit thats displayed in front of you Those are pretty reasonable things to analyze, though. I do get the general idea that analyzing minutiae is a waste of time, but unless you¡'re a youtuber that needs to put out content regularly, I don't think most viewers engage in that level of mental masturbation. |
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Kouun said: tl;dr: OP got salty because [insert youtuber here] criticised an anime they like No not really. I also fucking hate Asterisk Wars, for example, but the way he analyzes it looked really stupid imo but ppl dig so i guess its not that bad. Im pretty sure if he had a reason he would analyze ur fav anime to the core and dig up shit that u might have missed. 100% |
| Analyzing anime can be a lot of fun, actually. You start to notice tons of little details, themes and such things. I wouldn't enjoy anime if I didn't think about them. Analyzing them, realizing the unique things they do is why I enjoy them. |
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RainyRai said: Major123 said: This is every 'critic' on this site who thinks their opinion means something. It comes off as a waste of time to me. You didn't like the show? Great, move on and stop complaining about it weeks after its ended. the problem with your statement is that if people should stop complaining after it ends then people should also stop praising it after it ends, and if that happens, discussion about anything that isn't currently airing is null. Not really? just because you see one type of reaction as pointless doesn't mean you have to view other points of view to the same standard as well. Is it perfectly natural to want to only hear positive feelings from people around you. I mean there are anime I clearly dislike but I think it's more beneficial personally to think about why I enjoy the stuff I like instead. |
Nagirah said: Robiiii said: No not really. I also fucking hate Asterisk Wars, for example, but the way he analyzes it looked really stupid imo but ppl dig so i guess its not that bad. Im pretty sure if he had a reason he would analyze ur fav anime to the core and dig up shit that u might have missed. 100% I actually enjoyed that video series purely for the sake of comedic value and I haven't even seen Asterisk. I enjoyed it because it's almost like watching the series with someone else, and watching a reprehensibly-shitty series with someone else is infinitely more tolerable than watching it alone. Also, seeing garbage get its asshole ripped open is immensely satisfying. |
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SuperRed said: RainyRai said: the problem with your statement is that if people should stop complaining after it ends then people should also stop praising it after it ends, and if that happens, discussion about anything that isn't currently airing is null. Not really? just because you see one type of reaction as pointless doesn't mean you have to view other points of view to the same standard as well. Is it perfectly natural to want to only hear positive feelings from people around you. I mean there are anime I clearly dislike but I think it's more beneficial personally to think about why I enjoy the stuff I like instead. Yeah, but that's just double standards. Confirmed: Katanagatari is the worst anime ever. |
| every single one of my forum posts is dumb and invalid except for 1, I don't claim them it was a different person it was all fake |
RainyRai said: I'm more accepting of too much praise. Constant complaining is just annoying in a way where it makes me wonder why people don't do something else in their free time.it doesn't matter until they go off and start telling people that a show is good/bad because of it. Major123 said: This is every 'critic' on this site who thinks their opinion means something. It comes off as a waste of time to me. You didn't like the show? Great, move on and stop complaining about it weeks after its ended. the problem with your statement is that if people should stop complaining after it ends then people should also stop praising it after it ends, and if that happens, discussion about anything that isn't currently airing is null. |
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| It's only over-analyzing if the details they're referring to don't matter to the speaker or their direct audience. People like Digibro do a ton of analysis, but it seems as though those details genuinely matter to him. Furthermore, if doing that much helps him better vet the animes he's going to watch, then more power to him. Hell, I might start doing it with the animes I watch |
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Major123 said: RainyRai said: I'm more accepting of too much praise. Constant complaining is just annoying in a way where it makes me wonder why people don't do something else in their free time.it doesn't matter until they go off and start telling people that a show is good/bad because of it. the problem with your statement is that if people should stop complaining after it ends then people should also stop praising it after it ends, and if that happens, discussion about anything that isn't currently airing is null. Yes! How dare we demand that our entertainment be of higher quality! How DARE we!! |
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| Eh, people can watch anime how they want, their loss if they spend hours on 1 episode |
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| That's why I keep preaching is that "the only thing an anime needs to be is entertaining." People who over analyze stuff are missing the whole point of why an anime is created. Besides profit that is lol |
| I usually just follow all of the main characters' art style and the plot v.v |
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Lisbon said: If the character designs don't give the characters realistic, human noses then it's objectively a shit anime Noses are the most important part of anime tbh Says a poster with no visible nose on his/her avatar. ^_^ Robiiii said: DubstepKazoo said: Who are you to criticize how other people enjoy anime? If I think the animation is bad, if I think the plot is inconsistent, if I think the characters are annoying, if I think the soundtrack is dumb, then I'll say so, and that doesn't make me any better or worse than you. Well thats all reasonable but when u watch sht like that and literally make an anime watching into a analyze-fest, can u really enjoy anything at that point? That is why im asking this in the first place. Ofc ur allowed to voice ur opinion but im not talking about that really. Digibro is a great example of overanalyzis and sure, he can do whatever dafuq he wants but im asking really if u can enjoy stuff when watching it like that... Yes, one can enjoy a show by analyzing it. It's a different type of enjoyment to actually watching the show, of course, because it ruins the immersion and suspension of disbelief. I think TVtropes has a couple of articles about it, but I don't want to go here, because it's hard to leave. |
| Well, over-analyzing is basically a matter of perspective in the first place. One person might see overanalyzing where another person might see a normal in-depth analysis. It's all about what your goals and audience are. But it's stupid to expect anyone to care about it as much as you do, especially in casual discussions on a site like MAL. Super sophisticated arguments based on analysis like that just won't reach most people because it's irrelevant to their experience. And depending on the show, I can't fault them for that. Most of the time I'm just watching shows for the enjoyment myself. It also depends on what the goal of analyzing an anime to that degree is. If it's just a method to create flaws so you have ammunition in an argument I usually don't take it very seriously. Most shows aren't meant to be analyzed like that and won't hold up so it's not hard to make almost anything seem bad if you're intent on analyzing it to that degree and with that outcome in mind. I see most criticism along those lines as irrelevant nitpicking. There are definitely shows that WANT to be (over)analyzed though. I occasionally enjoy shows like that since they provide a very interesting viewing experience and there's always a lot to gain by using your brain creatively when interpreting what you see. Most shows like that are meant to be watched like that (just like most other shows are meant to not be watched like that) so in those cases I think most criticism that isn't willing to put in the analysis work is pretty irrelevant because that's clearly what the show is trying to make you do. Stuff like SEL, Concrete Revolutio or Ikuhara stuff fall into that category imo. Of course not all shows of this type are reliant on interpretation to the same degree. Some heavily rely on it to be able to make any sense out of them, others have enjoyable stories and characters even on the surface, but are well worth delving into deeper. So in conclusion I'd say there are 3 different types of show, though the borders aren't clearly defined. 1. Those who shouldn't be (over)analyzed 2. Those that demand to be (over)analyzed 3. Those that allow to be (over)analyzed but don't require it |
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Pullman said: Well, over-analyzing is basically a matter of perspective in the first place. One person might see overanalyzing where another person might see a normal in-depth analysis. It's all about what your goals and audience are. But it's stupid to expect anyone to care about it as much as you do, especially in casual discussions on a site like MAL. Super sophisticated arguments based on analysis like that just won't reach most people because it's irrelevant to their experience. And depending on the show, I can't fault them for that. Most of the time I'm just watching shows for the enjoyment myself. It also depends on what the goal of analyzing an anime to that degree is. If it's just a method to create flaws so you have ammunition in an argument I usually don't take it very seriously. Most shows aren't meant to be analyzed like that and won't hold up so it's not hard to make almost anything seem bad if you're intent on analyzing it to that degree and with that outcome in mind. I see most criticism along those lines as irrelevant nitpicking. There are definitely shows that WANT to be (over)analyzed though. I occasionally enjoy shows like that since they provide a very interesting viewing experience and there's always a lot to gain by using your brain creatively when interpreting what you see. Most shows like that are meant to be watched like that (just like most other shows are meant to not be watched like that) so in those cases I think most criticism that isn't willing to put in the analysis work is pretty irrelevant because that's clearly what the show is trying to make you do. Stuff like SEL, Concrete Revolutio or Ikuhara stuff fall into that category imo. Of course not all shows of this type are reliant on interpretation to the same degree. Some heavily rely on it to be able to make any sense out of them, others have enjoyable stories and characters even on the surface, but are well worth delving into deeper. So in conclusion I'd say there are 3 different types of show, though the borders aren't clearly defined. 1. Those who shouldn't be (over)analyzed 2. Those that demand to be (over)analyzed 3. Those that allow to be (over)analyzed but don't require it Alright well that really opened my eyes in a way i would never think of. Thank you, this really gave me an insight on things from a different perspective. I also feel rather special when a mod comments on my thread <3 |
| Over analyzing kills any show to death. I wouldn't enjoy anything if I did that, and if your entertainment isn't enjoyable then watching it is pointless. |
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