what do you wish would change about anime in general?

TheFilthyCasual said:
Everything in my sig needs to go away, along with LN adaptations and almost all VN adaptations.

Mamster-P said:


were only talking about anime here, and i highly doubt the economic crash has anything to do with anime, especially considering more and more people are getting into it everyday

asking the japanese to change anime to cater towards you is like a non spanish person complaining about a show on the spanish channel not catering towards them. just because you watch something thats not from your country or doens't share you values doesn't mean they owe you anything

im sure japans economy will be just fine when its just fine in the rest of the world

anime is japanese and should remain that way.... all SWJ's, butthurts and whiners can GTFO

Omni_slash95 said:


Whats your problem? OP specifically asks what WE would change about anime and people give their answers but then you get salty for no reason at all.

Deal with people having different opinions.

The problem isn't Anime being japanese (as if all japanese would like ecchi/loli's etc. wtf), the problem is that it panders far too often to horny neckbeards with the same old generic harems & all that other shit.

YellowCorvette said:
- Less wish-fullfilment LNs and more LN that are actually has good story and good characters.
- More realistic fight scenes and no more "Pointless monologue and flashback in the middle of the fight" crap.
- More 3-dimensional characters and less archetype like Tsunderes, Transfer student, etc.
- Don't rush a good story.
- Show, don't tell.

Mamster-P said:


peoples right to bitch about anime means my right to bitch about people bitches..... wow.... thats some bait right there.... too bad im not a neckbeard yet i still love generic harems

FlatEight said:
For starters, I want characters to act like real people.

Omni_slash95 said:


Says isn't a neckbeard and then rates generic low effort Harem anime always with a 10 and has no other favourites than them.

Seems to me like the only reason you like Anime is for the ecchi. Why not just watch hentai I wonder? But hey to each their own...

You can bitch about people hating on them all you want, its not going to change our opinions

Nico- said:
Nothing. Just the toxic fanbase who thinks their shitty opinions are justified. I'm at Anime Expo right now, and holy shit this is sure upsetting to view while there.

@Mamster-P keep on slaying 'em!

Mamster-P said:


1. wtf does my favorites have to do with being a neckbeard?

thats like saying someone must be overweight just because their favorite food is ice cream, as if other kinds of people can't like it

2. funny, considering my list of anime with little to no ecchi is bigger than your entire list

3. fuck hentai anime

4. why am i taking this bait?

Omni_slash95 said:


Of course not everyone who watches some ecchi anime is a neckbeard but watching sooo many of them + giving them a 10 (basically saying they are masterpieces) is simply ridiculous and certainly an indicator to me. Same with all those posters in your room...

Most of the anime in your list certainly seem to be ecchi/harem/loli/moe crap to me.

So then you have a bigger list but so what? I don't watch any ecchi & moe etc. anime so obviously my list is going smaller. This isn't a contest here anyway.

Mamster-P said:


typical elitist trash shit im reading right here..... oh well.... what else can i say other than

#staymad

Omni_slash95 said:


Better be an elitist (although I'm not, I enjoy all anime except the garbage harem/ecchi/loli kind) than a horny otaku!

Mamster-P said:


better to be open and honest with yourself than some insecure pussy who looks down on those who like anime he doesn't, and uses 3deep5u anime to try to seem like a badass -___-

anonypc said:
Just highschool settings. Just no more highschool/middle school settings, it's just too much. Some older characters... like mid 20s or 30s. Hell I wouldn't even care if they were 40s or 50s tbh.

Omni_slash95 said:


Wut. I didn't even mention any anime. Insecure? Nah I don't mind sex scenes and nudity if its done well (see GoT) but anime is just so damm childish with it. Probably one of the reasons your kind likes it.

And you were the one who got salty people were bashing your favourite genre.

Mamster-P said:


my bad... looks like im dealing with a badass over here....

idk why i care so much that you hate it, its not like its going to stop because people like you exist.... stay mad son...

Omni_slash95 said:


You obviously care enough to keep replying and getting salty over people bashing your favourite genre which is pretty hilarious.

One can only hope it stops and anime gets better, soo much potential yet in this medium which gets dragged down by neckbeards.

Zeus- said:
for me it's blood and boobs for the sake of blood and boobs

now, I'm fine with fanservice and blood if it's fitting or creative, like in the Monogatari series, but then you get shows like Elfen Lied, which I gave a 1/10 because that's what is central to it. the story functions as an excuse to put blood and boobs everywhere and is secondary, lmao

CodeBlazeFate said:
I wish that all anime were made by passionate people who wanted to share a story, bring a work to life, conjure up a symphonic storm, and spread some talent in the industry with the shows they make, filled with great communication and cooperation between everyone involved in production. So more studios like KyoAni and Ufotable.

Mikiya said:

I think its important to note that most people working in the industry ARE passionate its just that not all passionate people are capable of creating great works. People who go into animation aren't in it for the fame or money. The same applies to artists and writers everywhere.

Ichiro Itano (directed Gantz) is a super passionate and well known animator but he can't direct anything without it turning into hilarious garbage. The same thing goes for Yasuomi Umetsu (directed Wizard Barristers).

Studio WIT (Attack on Titan) can't budget their time right and it usually ends up hurting the animation in their works but the studio is very passionate about what they make.

Dogakobo (Love Lab, Sansha Sanyou, Mikakunin) shows tend to be incredibly animated in comparison to your average anime because they have connections to young passionate animators that like playing with motion and have directors that allow their animation staff to get creative. However their shows tend to also be overlooked because they have cute girls doing normal things in school settings.

CodeBlazeFate said:
I see what you mean. There are many passionate people out there, and a lot of anime were passion projects, some of which are obvious given its vibes. It's just that many studios like say, A1 Pitcures, don't share this mindset, putting employees through hell for little pay and a cheap product just for a little but of cash, like with most of these Harem Ecchi High School Battle anime, or most of A1's work given that employees suffer trying to make them, and a lot of them are just products that many others who made them didn't give a damn about. Also, shows like Blazblue Alter Memory prove that even Production I.G. isn't immune to cynically made, cheap ass productions, and it feels like some mainstream studios don't really show the passion or care that studios like MAPPA, KyoAni, or Ufotable do, and it really hurts the industry about as much as it helps, since often brainless and unbearable products are made with that type of $$$ mindset. I'm just glad you opened my eyes to know that there are still many studios that care a lot. Even if some of their products turn out to be a mess, or more recently and notably, a "Trainwreck".

Mikiya said:

Ah. Yeah I totally get you. Though, there are a couple things I have to comment on.

When studios make adaptations they are chosen by a specific team of investors (Aniplex, Bandai, Fuji TV, TBS, Lantis, Bushiroad) who give them money and a certain amount of time (a budget) for which to create a work the investors want produced. It is from this money that they make the shows we all watch. And it is from the DVD/BR and merch sales that studios make any sort of profit (they also have to pay TV stations to play their show on TV - think of it as an advertisement for the merch). Most studios aren't of the level to openly shoot down investors money to create adaptations of things that they in turn can make a profit off of from the merch. KyoAni is pretty much the only studio out there that can do this and still get by but even then they still make deals with investors from TV stations and music companies. (KyoAni also runs a legit animation school. I presume they also get quite a bit of money from that too.)

As for A1 Pictures and the whole "putting employees through hell for little pay and a cheap product just for a little but of cash" I can really only comment and say "eh.." to (I am assuming you are referring to the story of the guy who killed himself back in 2010). You hear stories of people committing suicide due to overwork in every stressful service industry. I am an entry-level architect and we always work overtime and on weekends for very little pay so I can kind of relate. Its stressful but at least we are doing something we love. Also 6 years is a long time. I imagine they've completely changed their methods since then.

Also I think its important to realize that studios are just groups of people who like anime or art or writing or whatever. The bad ones here are the ones that want what you consider unwanted content ("Harem Ecchi High School Battle anime") to be produced and that's investors like Aniplex, who aim to make a large profit off of producing several small budget anime they allot to many different studios. A1 Pictures just so happens to be directly connected to Aniplex so they end up doing a lot of these unwanted shows. Though, of course, that also means they do a bunch of super high profile shows that have huge fanbases and are guaranteed money like Idolm@ster and SAO and the soon-to-be Granblue anime adaptation. Unfortunately most studios can really only stay afloat by producing crappy anime from greedy investors otherwise they'll end up like Madhouse (which is where many of the people working at MAPPA came from). Also without Aniplex there would be no Monogatari series or Madoka Magica or pretty much any big name anime that has come out these couple of past years so even greedy investors can do good too.

Anime isn't a thing people go into unless they are passionate about it. Its a super risky business where very little money is actually being made by the creators/studios/animators/directors/writers themselves. Of course there are going to be "cynically made, cheap ass productions" made on low budgets as well as super untalented people working at studios. That's a given in almost every service based industry everywhere. But it is from those shows simply existing that really great things can be made. KyoAni got its footing by making adaptations of visual novels and light novels aimed at otaku fanbases and now look at where they are.

Bottom line, I think its important to look at the good things we have in anime and pay as little attention as possible to the bad. Eventually these "Harem Ecchi High School Battle anime" will go out of style and thus stop being produced because there is no money to be made.