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Jul 1, 2016 8:58 PM

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Good episode again, Didn't expect the drama.

Poor Kariu, She's insecure :(
I really hope that she and Hishiro can become good friends.
 
Jul 1, 2016 9:06 PM

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Christ Kariu is such a bitch. I've read posts here concerning how her problems are understandable but I'm here saying '.....what fucking problems????'

The guy she liked is cheerful with another girl. Ok. Immature but ok.
She isn't as good as sports as someone else? She's still good at sports.
She doesn't get as high as grades? She gets high grades.

The FUCK justifies her actions!?!?!


She has an inferiority complex. The explanation is a bit rushed, but Karui has always looked up to Honoka and Hishiro as the best of the best and as rivals. She felt if she tried her absolute hardest she could finally beat them and have validation that her effort equaled success, especially against people who to her knowledge don't put any effort at all. She also thought being class rep put her on equal grounds with Oga, something Hishiro took away from her. She feels worse and worse since whatever extra studying or practice she does doesn't improve her performance at all. She felt even worse when Hishiro made faces at her, almost like she knows Kariu's feelings and is deliberately trying to exploit them sadistically. This drove her to a fit of jealousy where she wanted to see Hishiro struggle and be frantic for once. Of course, stealing is wrong but I think many of us can relate to her dilemna.
 
Jul 1, 2016 9:43 PM

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Well it boiled over for Rena, as expected. She did wrong, but I can sympathize with her. Telling Oga how she feels probably coulda prevented all this, but then we'd have no story. XD
 
Jul 1, 2016 9:53 PM

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Angry_Always said:
Christ Kariu is such a bitch. I've read posts here concerning how her problems are understandable but I'm here saying '.....what fucking problems????'

The guy she liked is cheerful with another girl. Ok. Immature but ok.
She isn't as good as sports as someone else? She's still good at sports.
She doesn't get as high as grades? She gets high grades.

The FUCK justifies her actions!?!?!



She has an inferiority complex. The explanation is a bit rushed, but Karui has always looked up to Honoka and Hishiro as the best of the best and as rivals. She felt if she tried her absolute hardest she could finally beat them and have validation that her effort equaled success, especially against people who to her knowledge don't put any effort at all. She also thought being class rep put her on equal grounds with Oga, something Hishiro took away from her. She feels worse and worse since whatever extra studying or practice she does doesn't improve her performance at all. She felt even worse when Hishiro made faces at her, almost like she knows Kariu's feelings and is deliberately trying to exploit them sadistically. This drove her to a fit of jealousy where she wanted to see Hishiro struggle and be frantic for once. Of course, stealing is wrong but I think many of us can relate to her dilemna.


I can somewhat understand here. And she does apologize and realize her mistake.

Except...

SHE FUCKING DOES IT AGAIN TO TAMA!!!!!

Why is this girl only capable of caring about how she feels rather than anyone else!!!
 
Jul 1, 2016 11:03 PM

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Kairu is reaching her breaking point over her jealousy of Hishiro to the point she stole her bag and planned to leave it somewhere. I understand her feelings but as a viewer, we know Hishiro isn't doing it on purpose and even in Kairu's own eyes, Hishiro is showing no interest in Ooga anyways.

It's all about Hishiro's smug/creepy smile that bothers Kairu that spirals her into hatred based on pure speculation on her part.



 
Jul 1, 2016 11:31 PM

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Chizuru's forced smiles at Kariu kill me everytime
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Eh, Kariu... that was a bit disappointing. She's pretty good at sports and studies, isn't that good enough? I get that she wants to be best at everything, or else she feels inferior, but to me, it seems like she's very self-absorbed. As if she thinks her problems matter the most and she's suffering the most despite working hard. If she changes that part about her, I'd feel better about her.

That got heavy at the end. The ending song was nice.
 
Jul 2, 2016 1:14 AM

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That Sliver Pin has got some nice perks.
Lol will Kaizaki & Onoya ever pass those make-up exams.

Hishiro's smile is driving Kariu crazy. They need to clear up this misunderstanding.
That sliver pin means a lot to Kariu. Got serious at the end.

Hopefully Kariu can resolve her issues with Hishiro in the next episode.
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Jul 2, 2016 3:55 AM

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Pretty serious ep this time. Love how Arata actually noticed the bag
 
Jul 2, 2016 4:59 AM

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I mean, if you're trying to fight a battle on two fronts, of course you're gonna have a hard time. Pick one rival girl, you're actin' a fool.
 
Jul 2, 2016 5:34 AM

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Probably one of the episodes that suffered from having a ton of chapters in one episode, there was more build up to why Kariu has an inferiority complex though she was also being annoying in the webtoon and when she stole the bag in the anime it looked way more malicious than what was really in her head which was "I just want to trouble her a little bit" since to her she thinks Hishiro beats her without even trying which makes her feel like all the effort and hardwork she puts amount to nothing..yeah she's 2nd which is a good spot really but people with inferiority complexes don't get that.

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Jul 2, 2016 9:02 AM

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Jul 2, 2016 10:48 AM

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stand said:
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No falling down the stairs kiss
terrible 1/10

Why would anyone want the MC to kiss WORST girl?


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Jul 2, 2016 1:13 PM

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Woah, Kariu's jealousy reached a breaking point this episode. Poor her... That ending was pretty intense, damn. Another great episode it was.


 
Jul 2, 2016 5:40 PM
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They made the 'Kariu/Hishiro' arc really fast. Skipping some interactions and Arata's many inside thoughts or worries at home. It's very well done to make it fast but, it doesn't let you get in the character and their feelings like in the manga. This arc was greatly adapted! Even if they skipped some interactions or inner thoughts.
 
Jul 2, 2016 5:49 PM

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Angry_Always said:
Christ Kariu is such a bitch. I've read posts here concerning how her problems are understandable but I'm here saying '.....what fucking problems????'

The guy she liked is cheerful with another girl. Ok. Immature but ok.
She isn't as good as sports as someone else? She's still good at sports.
She doesn't get as high as grades? She gets high grades.

The FUCK justifies her actions!?!?!


Depression you can tell by her inner thoughts that she is a girl that suffers from depression, hence the whole I hate feeling like this. It's also portrayed well by the darkness that falls on her. She probably feels inferior and lonely all the time. While we see her as good at sports she doesn't see or feel that way, same with grades. Also she stated how nice it would be to have friends she probably doesn't have many other than her rival, and while their friends it doesn't seem like they're close. She's most likely lonely and she lashed out. I actually felt really sorry for her, as I knew a girl that acted this way a lot.
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Jul 2, 2016 6:17 PM

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Angry_Always said:
Christ Kariu is such a bitch. I've read posts here concerning how her problems are understandable but I'm here saying '.....what fucking problems????'

The guy she liked is cheerful with another girl. Ok. Immature but ok.
She isn't as good as sports as someone else? She's still good at sports.
She doesn't get as high as grades? She gets high grades.

The FUCK justifies her actions!?!?!


Depression you can tell by her inner thoughts that she is a girl that suffers from depression, hence the whole I hate feeling like this. It's also portrayed well by the darkness that falls on her. She probably feels inferior and lonely all the time. While we see her as good at sports she doesn't see or feel that way, same with grades. Also she stated how nice it would be to have friends she probably doesn't have many other than her rival, and while their friends it doesn't seem like they're close. She's most likely lonely and she lashed out. I actually felt really sorry for her, as I knew a girl that acted this way a lot.


I understand what you are saying. However I feel her inferiority complex comes from herself more than anything. She is brilliant at academics and whilst maybe she doesn't know it but good at sports. In the lonesome department she does have friends though? Especially Tama and Oga.

However whilst I do sometimes concede that someone's sad backstory may explain their bad actions, I never feel like they condone them, you know? This isn't the last time in the series that Kariu will act selfishly and lash out and I wish it was. To me it seems like she is only capable of considering how she herself is feeling rather than anybody else around her.

There was a similar thing in Kotoura san, have you watched it? A redhead friend gets jealous of a girl getting close to the main character and bullies her horrendously before also sending thugs after the main character. Her actions are explained by immature jealousy but she is forgiven instantly. That sort of thing I despise.
 
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Depression you can tell by her inner thoughts that she is a girl that suffers from depression, hence the whole I hate feeling like this. It's also portrayed well by the darkness that falls on her. She probably feels inferior and lonely all the time. While we see her as good at sports she doesn't see or feel that way, same with grades. Also she stated how nice it would be to have friends she probably doesn't have many other than her rival, and while their friends it doesn't seem like they're close. She's most likely lonely and she lashed out. I actually felt really sorry for her, as I knew a girl that acted this way a lot.


I understand what you are saying. However I feel her inferiority complex comes from herself more than anything. She is brilliant at academics and whilst maybe she doesn't know it but good at sports. In the lonesome department she does have friends though? Especially Tama and Oga.

However whilst I do sometimes concede that someone's sad backstory may explain their bad actions, I never feel like they condone them, you know? This isn't the last time in the series that Kariu will act selfishly and lash out and I wish it was. To me it seems like she is only capable of considering how she herself is feeling rather than anybody else around her.

There was a similar thing in Kotoura san, have you watched it? A redhead friend gets jealous of a girl getting close to the main character and bullies her horrendously before also sending thugs after the main character. Her actions are explained by immature jealousy but she is forgiven instantly. That sort of thing I despise.


Inferiority complex and depression correlate often going hand in hand. Even when someone that has depression has lots of friends they can often times feel alone regardless its caused by chemical imbalances in the brain so its a tricky topic. Inferiority complex can lead to depression and likewise.

I completely agree that one should never condone their actions through mental health problems though. If someone uses this as an excuse constantly, they will never grow as a person or in real life seek professional help.

I have never seen Kotoura san but I did put it on my plan to watch now :) . Yea Kariu is immature, but really all our character's in this anime are. They are portrayed really well as 17 year olds in that if they're great at something they're immature in another department. This is often how it is in real life as no one has their stuff together at the age of 17.
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I understand what you are saying. However I feel her inferiority complex comes from herself more than anything. She is brilliant at academics and whilst maybe she doesn't know it but good at sports. In the lonesome department she does have friends though? Especially Tama and Oga.

However whilst I do sometimes concede that someone's sad backstory may explain their bad actions, I never feel like they condone them, you know? This isn't the last time in the series that Kariu will act selfishly and lash out and I wish it was. To me it seems like she is only capable of considering how she herself is feeling rather than anybody else around her.

There was a similar thing in Kotoura san, have you watched it? A redhead friend gets jealous of a girl getting close to the main character and bullies her horrendously before also sending thugs after the main character. Her actions are explained by immature jealousy but she is forgiven instantly. That sort of thing I despise.


Inferiority complex and depression correlate often going hand in hand. Even when someone that has depression has lots of friends they can often times feel alone regardless its caused by chemical imbalances in the brain so its a tricky topic. Inferiority complex can lead to depression and likewise.

I completely agree that one should never condone their actions through mental health problems though. If someone uses this as an excuse constantly, they will never grow as a person or in real life seek professional help.

I have never seen Kotoura san but I did put it on my plan to watch now :) . Yea Kariu is immature, but really all our character's in this anime are. They are portrayed really well as 17 year olds in that if they're great at something they're immature in another department. This is often how it is in real life as no one has their stuff together at the age of 17.


Very true. And Kariu DOES apologize so she knows what she did was wrong. Plus I feel the maturity gap is intended so as to make Kaizaki an important character (I had feared he would act exactly the same as any other anime teen MC but luckily I was wrong)

I appreciate your mature, logical way of thinking about this. By that I mean the symptoms of a complex and depression. Thank you for seeing my point about condoning, it grieves me whenever I see a character male or female adult or child do something horrible but with a flashback or emotional outburst they are forgiven :/


I hope you enjoy Kotoura san! The main male character is very unique and charismatic, he is hilarious and embraces his attraction to the female lead in a fun and expressive way. Kotoura herself is also a gem, a sad past but she still remains optimistic and kind! Not perfect but enjoyable. :)
 
Jul 2, 2016 8:28 PM

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Poor Kairu is torturing herself with this jealousy and her misunderstanding with Chizuru
 
Jul 2, 2016 10:28 PM

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Got some drama this episode..... it is really hard to not just watch all the episodes in one night!
 
Jul 3, 2016 7:09 AM
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Jul 3, 2016 7:16 AM

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So much drama. Kairu is causing her own drama and self-pitying. Never self-pity. It's the worse kind of torture. Recognize your weaknesses but don't aggrandize them to the point they affect your life. Well, without a doubt, they're going to clear this misunderstanding because we have Arata Onoya and the others to explain things for her and that's the magic of Anime and how these stories go. It will eventually be resolved but Oga will always be a dense motherfucker.
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Jul 3, 2016 11:14 AM

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No falling down the stairs kiss
terrible 1/10

There might have been a accidental boob grab in there somewhere..
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Jul 4, 2016 5:40 AM

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Oh wow this ending song is old '-'

intense episode, the background music is stressful
 
Jul 4, 2016 6:40 AM

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I still laugh whenever Hishiro smiles. Oh I wonder how is she going to react.

 
Jul 6, 2016 12:54 AM

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Damn all this misunderstanding all because of jealousy worst is that it's way getting below the belt now with stealing, man if only Kariu really knows the thing behind Hishiro's "smiles" it would never been led to this. :(
 
Jul 6, 2016 11:13 AM

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Kiriu is a nice girl, so is Chizuru, but jealousy speaks louder...
 
Jul 7, 2016 6:16 AM

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Another superb episode! That ending was quite interesting as well, let's see what's next!
 
Jul 7, 2016 2:13 PM

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the beginning wasn't very interesting but then it got pretty intense! I am liking this a lot so far. show has great waifus too.
 
Jul 8, 2016 10:14 AM

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Slowly I am progressing. (Too many other things to do and people online distracting me from anime.)

I like it. Good school setting + bit of romance. I wonder ... the guy might become a teacher later since he is trying to help others and experiencing school life from a different point of view now. Might be suited as a teacher.

Looking forwart to the next episodes. I hope at the end there will be 1 episode where he is back to normal and not only 5 minutes or suddenly ending. So the results of the experiment can be seen - if he changes in normal/older life then.
 
Jul 8, 2016 12:28 PM

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Unexpected depth coming from what I figured would be just a silly comedy. I like every character in this show. Can't wait for next ep!

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Jul 9, 2016 5:07 AM

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I really like how they depicted Kariu falling into darkness. I thought it was pretty realistic and I've definitely felt those feelings of self hatred and having no control before. I almost cried watching this, Kariu was lucky to have Kaizaki so close by.
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Episode focusing on Kariu and her jealousy, paranoia stemming from her own perceptions that are far from the truth.. ahh, high school.

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Jul 9, 2016 7:33 AM

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Yoake uses internet explorer? C'mon, he was supposed to be the smart one
 
Jul 11, 2016 4:59 PM

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I die every time Hishiro tries to smile at Kariu
 
Jul 13, 2016 6:11 PM
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Why would anyone want the MC to kiss WORST girl?

An best girl. too bad they'll never end up together
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Jul 13, 2016 8:27 PM

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Oh shit, that ending scene!
 
Jul 14, 2016 6:39 PM

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The writing is so fucking bad, honestly. The NEET character spends a month in the school and suddenly he is friends with everybody, even the most antisocial character basically confessed to him. Now this bullshit teenager drama, "boo hoo I have to be the best because I want the dick", how I am supposed to feel anything about that?

I'm dropping because the anime has offered nothing in those 4 episodes.
 
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Rena's character reminds me a bit of my Iwasawa from Angel beats. Anyway back to the episode i really enjoyed it.


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Kariu noooo D: it's all a misunderstanding! That's typical with these animes though, isn't all of the drama caused by misunderstandings?
 
Jul 17, 2016 8:49 AM

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Great episode and interesting ending. I hope she'll be worried and not think some useless stuff.
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Uh, jealousy is making her take the wrong choices.
Pretty realistic if you ask me. Very good episode.
I didn't expect Arata to notice the second bag, but he did.

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Well, if somebody surpassed you and got to spend a lot of time with your crush, time that you will not be able to spend with him and everytime she sees you she gives you that grin that says "That's right bitch, whaddaya wanna do about it?" you'd be pretty angry too.
I'm glad she didn't do anything worse, like beating her up or contemplating suicide. That poor girl sees her whole world crumble beneath her, somebody give her a hug already.
Looks like next episode will clear that misunderstanding between them, thank god.
 
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It seems MC is not only trying to save himself but also everyone around him.. to prevent their mistakes. And the drama at the end... well, I just wonder how it resolves... probably not very nicely.

Still, I wonder why Ryou doesn't want to have anything to do with Hishiro.. now, I'm pretty sure Ooga and Kariu are regular highschool students but I'm still not so sure about her, could be either.
 
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The writing is so fucking bad, honestly. The NEET character spends a month in the school and suddenly he is friends with everybody, even the most antisocial character basically confessed to him. Now this bullshit teenager drama, "boo hoo I have to be the best because I want the dick", how I am supposed to feel anything about that?

I'm dropping because the anime has offered nothing in those 4 episodes.

Seems you haven`t paid any attention to his backstory.
He was a NEET? Yes. But never was said he was anti-social. Quite the opposite: He had to fake having a life to go out with his friends, do you remember? He chose to not go with them sometimes as well.
What happened is he made the choice to leave his job, which negatively marked his professional life reducing to 0 his chances to find a proper job. You have to consider how japanese people live, how their culture is.

The teenager drama is more realistic than most anime's i've seen, so i can't say i dont like it. Depression, weirdness, 17 year old people are not stable or mature. And it is not about being the best to have the D, but being in the same level as the one you like. Pretty standard, even after adulthood. Specially girls, since now she feels the guy she likes is "going away". Again, standard and realistic. You can't live a proper high school life without some of those things happening with you or your colleagues.
 
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Weekly watcher catching up

I hate misunderstandings.

The first place privileges don't seem to be awfully educational...is there something behind them

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Aug 12, 2016 7:39 AM

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The story's getting real twisted now, what will Kariu do now?
 
Aug 20, 2016 6:09 AM

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Still not getting used to the piano tracks... The episode felt like it had lots of content mashed up. That ending was intense. 3.5/5
 
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This is getting boring.
 
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There's always that one annoying self-centered bitch who ruin a whole show for me.
 
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