Chihayafuru
| Who does Chihaya ayase end up with? I would like to know, i didn't read the manga but i watched the anime and im curious. Mod Edit: Modified title for clarity and/or easier searching. |
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Senior_Tybor said: Who does Chihaya ayase end up with? I would like to know, i didn't read the manga but i watched the anime and im curious. Mod Edit: Modified title for clarity and/or easier searching. Not yet decided... |
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| I still want to know. I really like Chihaya with Taichi :( |
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Sakume said: I still want to know. I really like Chihaya with Taichi :( JasperKota said: I feel like it's leaning towards Arata, but at the same time there's possibility for Taichi too. I wouldn't mind seeing Shinobu x Arata though... There was an announcement that the middle school years will get a manga as well. Maybe we will get some more hints, who it will be. x3 Look here: https://myanimelist.net/forum/?topicid=1628902#msg52515296 |
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| Chihaya ends up with karuta because she is totally incapable of having regular human relationships. Sees no problem with it, either. |
Cmonmon said: Arata because for some reason her ending up with Taichi makes me sad and especially after seeing how much people want her with Taichi broke my heart. I'm surprised it brought tears and I've decided not to watch it anymore cause if Its true i dont want to see it and it would also let me believe the girl is dumb. I know if some guy treated me that way growing up and we for some strange reason decided to be friends he friend zoned for life I hope for Arata x Chihaya as well. :3 |
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| I always wanted Taichi to end up with Chihaya, but i'm not so sure anymore. Now that this match has started between Taichi and Arata, I find myself rooting for Taichi so much! Ofcourse my greediness would want it all for Taichi. Alas I think Suetsugu san will balance things out in the end. She has left herself the privelige to go any route from here.....nothing is 100% clear yet, so lets just wait and see what Sensei decides. I guess i'll ship Taichi with happiness......for all the others too. I just want a satisfying ending to this manga. |
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| I hope its Taichi though it is not decided yet :) Anyway it is a good story and you can try it :) |
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| ^ Arata and Chihaya could have chatted, have video talks, try and see eachother like we all do nowadays to keep in touch but neither has really tried to take that step closer to get to know eachother better during the story. Arata even came to Shiranami to play with Harada but didn't even call his friends....he actually does comes to Tokyo even if everyone says it's difficult for him. I don't see why these 2 weren't fervently chatting after the challenger about how to train. Arata and Shinobu trained together. Shinobu is no other than Chihaya's rival on top of it all.... what to think of all this? I just think Chihaya and Arata aren't close enough to feel comfy calling and seeing eachother outside of karuta. They will come to this conclusion. Sensei just chose to make it like it is. He wasn't written off. He has an important part of this story. It just isn't his role. |
chiakimagotoDec 11, 2020 10:34 PM
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| #Kipo007 I knew you would find some nice excuses for Arata and Chihaya not calling and texting eachother like everyone does these days on regular even daily basis when they are friends. Chatting via Instagram or snap is something people do to indeed keep in touch a make the distance lesser while waiting to see eachother in person. Once Arata received his little pink iPhone, he was fast forwarded into modern times: they are 16/17, well kids that age have no problems at all using modern technology ;). You see, more than once Chihaya wants to call Arata at certain moments but she always hesitates: she's just not comfy enough with the guy....and there is Taichi. Btw we get a wonderful sequence on how comfy Arata is with Yuu. He almost looks like a different guy. That little sequence in anime with Fukui accents is very funny. I like the way Yuu knows him so well, and that side of him. He was rich enough to come to Tokyo and train with Harada sensei without saying anything to Chihaya nor Taichi. Arata and Chihaya have called eachother, it's not like they don't know how to use a phone. You said it: for Arata and Chihaya it isn't a team journey. Arata always has desired to go back to that moment he played in a team for the first time and had so much fun. They will probably surely try to go there, but some things are only earned with effort and time (normally). Anyway time will tell how Sensei sees her story. Arata certainly will have a big part of the story near the end, like Taich and most of all Chihaya. |
chiakimagotoDec 14, 2020 12:36 AM
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| Every character/person has their own ways to stay connected to someone dear to them, some people are okay just using devices but not everyone is the same: I believe based on what Sensei had shown us both Chihaya and Arata would want to meet more "in person" than having a device for them to see and/or text each other all the time: which isn't the same to communicate and share their emotions by having eye contact in real-time which builds more meaning ( especially coming from someone very special in their lives): that's why Arata stated when he confessed that he has plans to move Tokyo so he can finally be near her: if Chihaya answers "yes: let's play Karuta together" it will be the start of their love relationship: romance isn't meant to be rushed, patience is the key of building trust and a healthy relationship. |
sweetangieDec 14, 2020 2:39 AM
| Probably Taichi, but both are fine:) |
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| @Kipo007, I have no idea why you are judging my RL experiences and getting personal... I read your post but I guess we have nothing to say to eachother anymore. Ps: Shinobu has Yt and Chihaya and Chitose have Instagram. I guess that slipped your mind. |
chiakimagotoDec 14, 2020 10:59 AM
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| We're getting closer to Chihaya x Arata. I love it here. |
| The desire to be loved is the last illusion. Give it up and you will be free. |
| I start to say that for me, Arata will win the Meijin title, unlike Chihaya for the Queen title. Because for Arata the karuta is the goal of his life, and i think it's written in stone that he'll honored his grandfather memory. For Chihaya instead the karuta entered in her life later. It is her greater passion too, and she trained for it a lot for years. The Chihaya - Karuta marriage is the core of this manga, it is the vehicle that drive her to a personal grown. Thanks to karuta she'll knows a lot of friends, and challenges a lot of obstacles. So, this is enough for me for a good slice of life story. Like some " it's the journey that counts, not the destination". Like in Slam Dunk, where the Shohoku arrives only at the third game of the national championship, but the path that lead them untill here is the core of Slam Dunk. And so i think of Chihaya's path about karuta. Or, is the ending that i'd like. Because Shinobu, like Arata , grown with Karuta, suffered with karuta from when she was a little child. And i think that an ending where she remains the best it's the more appropriate. Anyway, coming back into the beginning, if Arata wins the title, i find that takin' also the girl, leaving the poor Taichi only with dust in his hands it's too much for him. Ok, it seems that Suetsugu wrote this character as a picture of a personal grown trough pain, drammatic efforts, inevitable things and acceptance. But....does the author really will treats the poor Taichi like this ? I hope for him NO !!! But here is my vison of the picture: SPOILER UNTILL CHAPTER 233 ARATA From a logical view, judging what we have seen from here, he is the "winner". The feelings about each other are clear from the start, though when they were child, maybe they didn't think too much about love. But during the real timeline of the manga, Chihaya clearly think of him, and Arata (maybe more than her) too. Because the feelings of Chihaya are strange. They are always mixed with karuta. From when they were childs, to when she goes with Taichi to Fukui to see him after he left Tokyo. From the "i will always love karuta, and Arata" in the hospital, to the confession of him, and her answer in front of the Omi Jingu temple. But maybe the karuta is the catalyst of their feelings, the way they express them, because both of them are not to shod in romantic things(especcialy Arata, that is always been really shy, but she too). SO, maybe in the end, trough karuta, they will be able to reach each others heart. This is the most discounted ending, but a little trivial in my opinion. TAICHI Personally, it's my favourite choice. For several reasons. In the first place, reading this manga, i found that this love story (or should i say "one sided love story"....poor man) it's the most beatifull, well written, and intriguing thing in this opera. And, if we think about it, it is the more predominat of the triangle story. We live the Taichi-Chihaya perspective too much more than the Arata- Chihaya's one. Trough Taichi we suffer, we struggle, and, i think a great number of us, we support him, and until the end, we hope that that karuta maniac realize how he is precious to her. It's true that Arata and Chihaya are distance most of the time, but it's true that this is a precise choice of the author, almost as she want that we are focused more about the development of this relation(Taichi - Chihaya), than Arata- Chihaya. In all the love manga that i read, this tipe of direction was the index that the two ot them in the end get toghether. And there are some particular that are "suspicious" to me. First but not last, the confession of Taichi. Tooooo much deep and emotional than the Arata confession. She loves her from her nails always short, to all the stupid face and laugh she does, not some " we can play together in Tokyo" .This type of confession maybe will had a relevant reaction on her in the future. In second place, Oe and Sumire that have some suspicious that maybe she cares about him more than she realize. If not, i ask to my self why Suetsugu put in front of our attention this particular,not one, but two times (the bitter tears scene with Oe). If it is all for nothing...man....the author is really cruel and sadistic. Three, Chihaya demonstrate several times that she cares a lot about him. From when she choose to see his match where he became an A player instead Arata - Shinobu's match, to when she want desperately that he smiles, after the first defeat with Arata(when she makes chocolate). Four, it's seemed to me that in all the cases that Chihaya had to choose to cheer Arata, or someone who shared real and happy moments with her(unlike a distance relation with Arata), she choose the seconds. I think of Sensei Arada, and Taichi(the Taichi - Arata's challenge). Almost as deeply, maybe she keep in her heart the moments shared with them(and so, with Taichi too) more than this love about Arata. Maybe this love, when all the curtain falls, was only a great admiration as a karuta player, and as a childhood acquaintance that disappeared for some years(i hope so). And the last thing, the confession again. Ok, she reject him, and this was a knife straight to the heart moment. Even if at the beginning she seems a little jealous when she knew that Taichi has a girlfriend, it's a short and not so rivelant moment. He remain her best friend. He's been always at her side, and when it comes to this, most of the time it's normal that you didn't think that under the veil there is a love affection. And when he confess to her, she has, in one way or another, Arata in her mind. So it's more that normal that all the things she can say is..."sorry". But after that, she reacts very bad when he leaves. Ok, at firsts the sense of guilt it's predominant. The fact the he leaves karuta shocked her. But after this moment, from what i see, except her answer to Arata(And if Nishida and Komano doesn't declare to Oe, maybe she even forgot about Arata confession), it's seemed to me that she was more worried about Taichi, and thinkin, of him, in one way or another. Ok, she seemed a little jealous when she see Arata and Shinobu together, but at that time, it's seemed to me a sense of loneliness more general. She was alone during the Christmas festivity, and just before a challenge with Shinobu that scares her a lot. It's also true that after he confess to her, Taichi begin to set a distance between her, and maybe this distance is destined to grow untill the end, especcially after he talked with Chitose on the train. I can immagine that he begins in the end to understand how he must leave all his past behind, and go on in his life, without her. And in the end, he begin also to support Arata(ok in karuta not in love). But i don't know...it's not impossible to me to think that after Chihaya fell in her skin what means for her to loose Taichi, maybe she'll understand how she in important to her.The scene when Taichi confess to Oe that the feeling may begin to disappear gives me some hope, and some resignation at the same time. Because if the fact that he really begin to forget her maybe it's true,we can assume that maybe he is serious in putting a stone on all of it(mmmm....even if i'm not so convinced). But her reaction when she probably heard him it's...strange. I can immagine a scene after the queen title where she'll tell to him that she heard him that nights, and ask him if it's true, but i'm immaging things. But if we think about it, we don't know exactly why she refuse him, and what she really thinks about him as a man. Ok, often in love there aren't reasons to explain, but i'll find strange if they'll not touch this argument anymore, considering the strong relationship between each other. In conclusion, i think it's clear that i wish for Taichi. Not because Arata is a bad character. On the contrary, he is a good man, and his efforts to grown for himself(and for Chihaya) is sweet, and i think that he really likes Chihaya(i think the scene where he want to hug her,and he "train" with his parents).And just because of this, it's hard for me to think that Chihaya will break his hearts. But it's Taichi that showed a love for her on a completely different level.She is in love with her from always,she is the pin where turn all his actions, unlike Arata.Ok, this isn't always a positive thing, because it denote a dangerous and obsessive way of behaving. But all the things he did, was always to cheer her, and make her smile. And after such demonstration, thinkin' that in the end he will remain only with a "personal maturarion" leaves to me too much bitterness. Escpeccialy if i think at the scene when he organized a mini birthday party for her with the team of the Mizusawa, near the river.I like to think that in the end, thanks to Arata, Chihaya has found the love for karuta, that makes her grown even as a person. And thanks to Taichi, she'll in the end realize that in life(yes, even in the real life), havin' a person that loves you so much, it's the more important thing, becuase i think that after this match, she will quit Karuta and go on on her "normal" life. So....come on Taichi. Let's get the girl. We will wait until....2030 ahahahah. |
Lohr89Mar 25, 2021 6:53 PM
| I too think that in the end, if there will be a" winner", with a 70% of chance it will be Arata. But i get also the feeling that after Taichi's confession, something has changed. In an intimate way, romantic or not,it seems that Chihaya is more near to Taichi. I continue to think that most of the thoughts that Chihaya has on Arata are strongly connected to Karuta. She wants to attend the goal that share with him to be the best in the world, and maybe continue to has an inferiority complex, because he is a champion in this sport, and maybe this influences her feelings. But maybe, as i said(and from what i understand, you too), the karuta is their bond that in the end will be something more. The fact that between them, maybe Arata is more "not-only-karuta" on her, makes me think that he will be very serious untill the end. And it's hard for me to think that after she has rejected Taichi, she will reject Arata too for going with Taichi. Unless Yuu finally declare to Arata, and maybe shakes him a little(it seems obvious that she has feelings for him).On the other hand, i almost think that untill here, Taichi grown a lot, and the scene that he ask to Oe to fit Arata's kimono, while he was losing by 18 cards, express a real maturation in his characters. But if the show for him ends like this, sorry but all the things i can think is "he has tryed his best, but he lost in all the things he putted enormous efforts from all the story, except that an individual grown". Ok, in real life this is a great lesson for everyone, but in fiction i find this too much hard, especcialy in a manga with not so gloomy and iper realistic tones. I found extremely right that he lost againts Arata, because Arata is the embodyment of the karuta in this story, and it'll be unrealistic and almost ridicolous that he'll lose againts someone that played karuta only for help trainin' Chihaya, for attract her attention, and in the final phases, to demonstrate to himself that if he do hard, he can become really good, but right before the final act, he was ready to forfait(great Sensei Arada that stopped him). But if it's true that be always by someone side isn't always enough to win that someone's heart, i think it's true also because sometimes you take it from granted. But when this person is not granted anymore, and you realize that this person always loved you, you begin to see all the things in a different way. And you have two paths. Realize that in the end, you don't want to live a life without him(and at the same time, realize that you love him too), or let him be for his own good.Unless Taichi in the end suppress his feeling for continue to staying near her, but it didn't seems the case to me untill here(but it is a possible ending, a little infantile and rhetorical in my opinion, especcialy after we saw how much he loved her).And i'm not sure that even Chihaya is ready to let him go. In this situation, i found really enigmatic the scene where she heard the conversation between Taichi and Kana(damn Suetsugu...she will be sneaky untill the very end).And, i repeat, it's strange that Suetsugu want that more than once time, different characters think that maybe Chihaya cares of him more than all we think. I can understand before Taichi's rejection, but even after(or i am wrong, or Oe in chapter 207 think it)... If you ask to me, a satisfying love-ending of this story should be Taichi-Chihaya, because it is winding, full of emotions, and especcialy, more well written. And i repeat, this is a precise choice of the author, not a casual thing. Ok, this is not a sentimental manga in the first place,and ok, maybe in the end Taichi will be only a picture of personal grown. but the romance story between them is too much inserted. And, except Maison Ikkoku(ok, that is the masterpiece), i've never liked the love stories where from the start you know who will get who.The most annoying thing is that based on the chapters pubblication, we will know something in about some years ahahahah. |
Lohr89Mar 25, 2021 12:29 PM
| @ElDoRado1239 Yes so right, I totally agree. It seems pretty clear, especially after 234 where Chihaya's feelings have been since some time now....it has been slowly fermenting and now she'll soon put a word on her feelings: in a way she did in chapter 234: he was always here. Nothing complicated about understanding this. Ofcourse Arata has his own role in this and realisations to make. I feel Suou is seeing through him pretty well... something that always was in the air with Arata from the start. He might have to take head on his own feelings about why he gets triggered, who he wants to be etc. We all know chiha will be in the next match. I think not paying attention to the deep meaning, the feelings of the poet while reading this manga is missing out because Sensei so deeply loves the poems and knows how to emotionally use them at such wonderful strategic moments, so you 100% connect with the words and feelings of the poet..... that's what a poem is written for in the first place. A beautiful poem brings tears to your eyes because it has deeply been understood. Chihaya has almost reached both: Chihayaburu and the deep understanding of her own poem, the title of this manga. I'm waiting for the emotional climax cause Sensei sure has been sending waves of beautiful poetic connections in this final.😭 |
chiakimagotoMay 6, 2021 4:07 AM
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dr_Guts_dds said: yes please please, i need something like that to survive To all people around the world reading and watching Chihayafuru and are in the TaichixChihaya team, I'm asking you is there any way that we, people who love Taichi, can tell Suetsugu sensei our opinions and maybe if we can affect the ending and preventing Arata wins everything ??😁😂😂😂😂 A petition or sth 😁 |
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| I'm a big Taichihaya fan but I think Sensei should write her story without fans harassing her. She needs to write this story from the heart, so trust her: she'll do it just fine. It's the most annoying thing a fan could do: go and complain and beg.... it's her story so we should respect her own creativity. It would be weird if she wrote the story as we like just because we asked, it would be boring and worthless. So let's just support her by buying her manga, Chihayafuru fund merch, and showing our appreciation Indeed this manga makes us stand on our toes for so long, it's painfully beautiful. I'm sure Sensei will give us something glorious for being so patient. |
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| Ofcourse Chihaya isn't a reward or trophy. It certainly is a great gift in life if the one you love, loves you back. Ofcourse Taichi could move on, but I think it would make his heart burst if Chihaya finally tells him she had been waiting for him, that she was lonely without him and doesn't want to live her life without him. Arata can move on just as much as Taichi can. Chihaya might indeed choose one of the boys or choose no one because she's not ready. The thing is that in chap 234 the "he was always here" is a big break in Chihaya's realisation of what she feels for Taichi. Anyone can keep on denying this isn't romantic and do what they like....it seems very clear and nothing complicated about how she reacts, while looking down on the poems in front of her. It's the first time Chihaya did think about Taichi's fading feelings, the most logical explanation being it bothered her to hear that. She knows very well Taichi even stayed her friend after being rejected, he didn't keep ignoring her....he kept on helping her. She's not clueless anymore, she knew very well Taichi was speaking of his romantic feelings, not his friendship. Sensei still is stalling but the ground has slowly been being prepared for the landing. |
chiakimagotoMay 6, 2021 12:53 PM
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Kipo0007 said: As i said he's not a buddha to be complete devoid of feelings, the taichi who said "the cards are all black after that confession" and the current taichi have a quite significant difference, yes he still has those feelings it will bother him a lot from time to time but not to the point he thinks everything is over for him and its no point living anymore. He knew from the start how chihaya looked towards arata still chose to love her all this time, he knew what he was getting into and also how painful it is. but after everything went haywire he had time to reflect on himself and his thought process on life & also taking advices from different people in his life. After his match with Arata when they were hugging he showed us a lot of emotions and his new perspective on his own life. He is changing slowly so yes i can say that he will not think of such really extreme thoughts in this particular scenario and i think most of the fans will agree to that. That's how it is in reality as you mature you realize and understand a lot of things & learn to process it slowly but surely. That's why taichis development is one of the best which gives us a reality check. I agree. I don't understand how anyone still reading the manga actually believes Taichi wouldn't be able to handle those two getting together when he's known this entire time that Chihaya has always felt differently for Arata which is why Taichi would react the way he did during certain moments. He's always been painfully aware since Chihaya is such an open book with her feelings-even though she doesn't understand those feelings as she said herself back in chapter 92. It's going to be so beautiful once everything connects between Arata, Chihaya, and Chiha-a song of a bright red love. |
possession1981May 6, 2021 1:17 PM
| The desire to be loved is the last illusion. Give it up and you will be free. |
| Oh Taichi probably does probably think he has no chance by now.... it's too bad he didn't see alot of Chihaya's reactions to him, especially the at the challenger where she is hiding behind the door and even her behaviour and longing here at the finals. He so obviously still loves her so much, his shrine panel and the Tare moment are pretty telling....not only that, him laying out his most beautiful feelings in front of Arata.... I bet Arata knew he wasn't at the same level of dedication as Taichi. Chihaya already carries him in her heart, her vision of him at the shrine, being upset because there is no message for her, Arata calling mi and her seeing Taichi before her, her exercise of exhaling, her realisation in 234...pretty easy to read Chihaya in these chapters, nothing complicated about her reactions. And Chiha....Chiha isn't here since when? "Chiha isn't here but Taichi is here." "Chiha helped Taichi, I'm so glad" "What about Chiha not being there, but Arata is here, Chihaya?" "looks like Chiha doesn't like me anymore" "Taichi is here, no it's not that, Taichi was always here." 5th match Chiha came and is on the tatami. Ofcourse Arata will get what he wants most dearly: friends and a team spirit connection, find his own karuta. He definitely has a role with Chiha, the one of passing on the passion of karuta. Chihaya will give his lost passion back to him. It's undeniable Taichi has his own role with Chiha, the one of staging the deep hidden feelings of the poet....the ones Chihaya will ultimately understand in heart and soul. Btw none of us know how this will end. Sensei is the only one who will decide the fate of her characters and we are all bias in our own way. None of us are in her head, so in the end everything we rant about are suppositions. At this point of the story she can do anything she wants. It's btw very surprising how such extreme different opinions have come to life for the same story.... that's how well she has been writing this love triangle in an ambiguous way.....I find the constat quite amusing. |
chiakimagotoMay 6, 2021 4:13 PM
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