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Jun 17, 2016 6:54 AM

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THIS IS AN ANIME ONLY DISCUSSION POST. DO NOT DISCUSS THE MANGA BEYOND THIS EPISODE.
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Well I thought the episode was good, it sets up for the finale well in particular with the mind games Hakumen is playing against his enemies. Loved the reverse psychology that Tora used though especially since Hakumen seems to be the one afraid now.

Really liked the fact that Ushio and Tora are using everything they got and fighting like a team despite personal differences. Good stuff, can't wait to see the finale. What a journey this has been after reflecting on their way to here.
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Jun 17, 2016 8:13 AM

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This was a really good showcase of a everyone working together and pulling their own weight too

Loved at the end there where Tora was roasting Hakumen lol....Can't wait to see the finale
 
 
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Jun 17, 2016 8:24 AM

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I laughed my ass off when the plane came out of the gate. Out-of-context-anime-content right there.
 
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Jun 17, 2016 8:35 AM

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I know this batlle will continue until the last episode.
That Hakume... So slick, it produce poison mist even while molting. Not to mention for a second there the Beast Spear trying to make Ushio lose control again. At least it's not like the last one. And lots of respect for the Azafuse for their sacrifices.
 
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Jun 17, 2016 9:21 AM

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It was good to see humans came to help out!

Everyone working together was really nice.

I can't wait to see the finale.
 
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Jun 17, 2016 9:32 AM

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5/5 for this episode...

HOLY CRAP
(That is all that can be said, it's that damn good)
 
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Jun 17, 2016 9:38 AM

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Hakumen fight continues, human army helps out and hakumen loses his fear influence almost completely.
Azafuze turn into mini hakumen and destroy some tails, and some smack talk about hakumen being scared.
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ArtemisFlow said:
I laughed my ass off when the plane came out of the gate. Out-of-context-anime-content right there.


+1 that was so friggin hilarious
 
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Jun 17, 2016 10:20 AM

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Is there a youkai that can use ice? Because Hakumen is gonna need some after that burn from Tora.

Looks like Ushio and Tora have gained the upper hand in this fight, it should be exciting to see how it all ends. And I agree, wtf was up with the airplane coming from the gate lol it seemed so random.
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Jun 17, 2016 11:56 AM

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Damn. That huge ass arm and plane coming out of nowhere to save the girls xD. Ushio and Tora have Hakumen backed to a corner. Excited for the finale!
 
Jun 17, 2016 12:24 PM

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this is what happens when humans and monsters work together. overall I loved this episode I can't find any fault unless you're nitpicking. we got to see so much in this episode from what the humans are doing, to returning characters, the loss of some characters, and the truth of hakumen and the beast spear.
 
 
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Barion-Zara said:
ArtemisFlow said:
I laughed my ass off when the plane came out of the gate. Out-of-context-anime-content right there.


+1 that was so friggin hilarious

Hilariously awesome.

The cliffhanger wasn't what I thought it'd be, but the one scene I thought would have been the cliffhanger happened in the episode anyway. It was freaky, but that badass speech of taking Hakumen no Mono down to Hell with them as they laugh uproariously was awesome. Loved it.

Can hardly wait for next week. I'm gonna try to emotionally prepare myself, but I don't think it's going to do me any good doing so.
 
Jun 17, 2016 12:34 PM

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LMAO that mofo got to keep his plane even in the afterlife. I guess it makes sense since people keep their clothes usually, but idk you don't usually see full huge objects like planes in this type of stuff involving returning ghosts.

Tora laid down some serious trash talk, that stuff about kings looking down and mocking Hakumen no Mono for looking up was priceless, good guys almost never say stuff like that! Tora is like when someone like Triple H plays babyface.
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ArtemisFlow said:
I laughed my ass off when the plane came out of the gate. Out-of-context-anime-content right there.


Yeah me too. That scene lmaooooooo
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Jun 17, 2016 1:51 PM
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This is a glorious final battle. They're really making the effort to have everyone and everything from the series be a part of it. I truly lost it when the plane showed up. I didn't know planes had spirits, but I guess they do. I kind of wish the Azafuse hadn't died, but they went out in a pretty glorious way.

I kind of wish it wouldn't end next week but oh well. Guess I'll read the manga after it does...
 
Jun 17, 2016 2:26 PM
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Deus Ex Plane right there man, LOL.

I loved Tora breaking down Hakumen at the end. It's going to lash out big time now.
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Jun 17, 2016 4:04 PM

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For those laughing at the airplane, btw, I think the anime did the scene from the manga justice. I don't think it's as impressive as seeing a ghost ship ram Hakumen no Mono, but what can you do.
 
 
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Really surprised the battle against the Hakumen didn't finished this episode. Kinda glad that didn't happened, since an entire episode for an epilogue would have been too much.

The plane scene was ridiculous, but really awesome. The apperences of the fathers of those girls and the youkai who Asako saved in the scientists arc reminds me how much I love that the "monster of the week" episodea that the series used in the beginning actually serves a purpose here to avoid things looks like asspulls.

Then the Azafuses would have eventually turn into another Hakumens. That reveal shocked me, but it has sense considering the origin of the Hakumen. That conversation of Tora with it at the end sounded interesting.

Only 1 episode left... I will definitely miss this series.
 
Jun 17, 2016 6:00 PM

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Hakumen: "This isn't even my final form!"
 
Jun 17, 2016 7:54 PM
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FallenEntity said:
this is what happens when humans and monsters work together. overall I loved this episode I can't find any fault unless you're nitpicking. we got to see so much in this episode from what the humans are doing, to returning characters, the loss of some characters, and the truth of hakumen and the beast spear.
I 100% agree , you don't see a lot of anime where humans and monster work together, most of the time humans are good guys and monsters are bad guys ( tho their have been case was the other way around has happen ) and its nice to see an anime that shows anyone can work together to beat a common enemy. :)

I really Hope Hakumen gets a pathetic death and ask for Ushio to spare his life.
 
Jun 17, 2016 8:27 PM

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Can't believe there's only one episode left. What a wild ride it's been. I'm really going to miss this show...
 
 
Jun 17, 2016 9:45 PM

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csnt wait for the finale
 
Jun 17, 2016 10:10 PM

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I am so anxious to see the finale. This anime has had me on the edge of my seat!
 
Jun 18, 2016 12:01 AM

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Mini hakumen, ur going Down ;-))
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Jun 18, 2016 6:04 AM

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That was a great episode. Tora in the end was great, talking like that to Hakumen.
 
Jun 18, 2016 6:36 AM

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I was waiting for that speech about Hakumen always looking down from below with jealousy. You could just feel how much it stung him.
 
Jun 18, 2016 7:05 AM

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god that was amazing and that speech at the end tauntin Hakumen
 
 
Jun 18, 2016 11:31 AM

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Tora is always the best, his speech at this end was priceless
 
Jun 18, 2016 11:50 PM
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It's too bad this episode have so many stills but the awesome dialogues makes up for it.
From Azafuse talk to drag Hakumen to hell, Ushio touching speech, and the cherry on top Tora brutally smack talk Hakumen. These are probably the best lines of this season
 
Jun 20, 2016 8:04 PM

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That was great! The finale is going to be a blast, I feel it :D
 
 
Jun 21, 2016 1:51 PM

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The finale draws near. I can't wait.
 
Jun 21, 2016 8:57 PM

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Eventful episode, this one is.
But, how will it end in one more.
 
Jun 26, 2016 9:56 PM

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It was fun seeing a lot of the old characters.
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Jun 28, 2016 10:42 AM

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So many good endings leading upto the finale couldn't wait to see how it all wraps up.
 
Jul 7, 2016 9:10 AM

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Great lead-up to the final episode, this one. Nice to see short cameos of everyone that played a part in leading up to this point!
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This was probably epic in the manga, where Ushio had met so many and everyone comes back... but here... It just kinda didn't work for me because none of it was included.

Like even the snow youkai, where the hell did they come from? Stuff like this bothers me, only cause it wasn't shown.
The thing about the Azafuse becoming Hakumen was neat though. Hakumen is the representation of pure hatred, from Tora's body, thus the Azafuse who are bred by the spear simply to hate Hakumen the more they use it, eventually become what? The embodiment of that pure hatred... which is the form of Hakumen.


So, how come garbage like Naruto gets 2 full years of filler, yet Ushio and Tora, a show that needs a lot of its original content, can only get 39?
How come the lame Pokemon anime never stops production, even after 20 years? Or Gintama or Fairy Tail; all these awful shows that get endless productions.

Shows that have seemingly no plots get endless episodes, but the ones with never seem to. Thinking of Berserk too.



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Deus Ex Plane right there man, LOL.

I loved Tora breaking down Hakumen at the end. It's going to lash out big time now.


Deus Ex Machina is out of nowhere saves that aren't set up. Episodes 3 and 8 and the Meikai Gate set them up, so that's one of the few examples the anime did in copying the manga of having everyone who Ushio helped in the past play a role, which I like.

Even Umizatou helping Sumako was set up. He's a youkai of the sea; I think a representation of it himself, hence why I would get that he hates Sumako more than any other youkai; she had that barrier up in his territory.
And now that even he knows (he is the sea), he changed his mind.
That's great and all set up. The internal logic of the motivations is all there.

What bothered me more was how Reiko and Yuu found Saya on that island, which I'm sure makes more sense in the manga.
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Hakumen doesn't look too confident now, Tora is absolutely right and we all know that he is scared of the spear.
 
Sep 26, 2017 10:44 PM

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Kagari slaying with that fine pose.
HnM is cracking up.
Where those tanks come from?
Kagari so fine.
Maybe it's the plot allowing you to stay in the poison mist, Ushio.
Kagari so fine.
Lawd! Dat Jun oppai.
Rocket Azafuse heads.
lol She got hot water.
Bal-chan saved them.
Saya!
Reiko's dad saving her.
Yuu's dad saving her. I'm calling bullshit with that plane.
HnM is looking up at you because he's a fox looking mother f'er.
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the whole them turning into hakumen is confusing. I liked how tora and ushio dressed hakumen down. Also everyone showed up here we even got a ghost plane lol.
 
Jun 9, 2019 7:42 PM
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Loved Tora mocking Hakumen! Tell ‘im boyo! He’s about to get his butt kicked!
Nice how they showed everyone doing their part and working together.