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Here are the weekly manga rankings for June 6 - 12

Rank / This week's sales by copies / Cumulative sales / Titles

*1. 288,592 939,409 Hunter x Hunter Vol.33
*2. 278,997 280,862 Drifters Vol.5
*3. 234,250 526,646 One Punch-Man Vol.11
*4. 220,439 668,167 Ansatsu Kyoushitsu Vol.20
*5. 174,499 175,326 Prison School Vol.21
*6. 144,901 144,901 Mix Vol.9
*7. 141,881 339,686 Boku no Hero Academia Vol.9
*8. 138,502 295,327 D.Gray-man Vol.25
*9. 104,660 264,097 World Trigger Vol.15
10. 103,864 103,864 Yowamushi Pedal Vol.45

11. *84,847 184,735 Nisekoi Vol.23
12. *76,032 182,212 Toriko Vol.39
13. *73,506 503,517 Kuroshitsuji Vol.23
14. *64,429 *64,429 Hataraku Saibou Vol.3
15. *61,632 495,298 Kimi ni Todoke Vol.26
16. *53,501 136,550 Bungou Stray Dogs Vol.10
17. *53,261 *53,261 Koi wa Ameagari no You ni Vol.5
18. *47,555 *48,044 Kenka Kagyou Vol.7
19. *46,729 *46,729 Saint Seiya: Next Dimension - Meiou Shinwa Vol.10
20. *40,985 *77,014 Vampire Knight: Memories Vol.1

21. *36,135 *77,860 Last Game Vol.10
22. *35,965 286,087 Ore Monogatari! Vol.12
23. *34,116 *34,575 Sengoku Gonbee Vol.2
24. *32,590 256,265 Kyou wa Kaisha Yasumimasu. Vol.11
25. *32,336 229,645 Horimiya Vol.9
26. *31,539 *33,703 Drifters Vol.5 Special Edition
27. *30,257 224,685 Koudai-ke no Hitobito Vol.5
28. *29,565 *29,565 Totsuzen desu ga, Ashita Kekkon Shimasu Vol.5
29. *28,810 154,858 Bokura wa Minna Kawaisou Vol.8
30. *27,079 *27,350 GTO: Paradise Lost Vol.5

31. *26,854 209,571 Ookami Shoujo to Kuro Ouji Vol.16
32. *25,970 *26,220 The Fable Vol.6
33. *25,394 *25,394 Saint Seiya: The Lost Canvas - Meiou Shinwa Gaiden Vol.16
34. *24,219 344,747 Diamond no Ace Act II Vol.3
35. *22,212 *54,175 Magical Pâtissière Kosaki-chan!! Vol.3
36. *19,504 *45,634 MPD Psycho Vol.23
37. *19,329 *50,658 Kochira Katsushikaku Kameari Kouenmae Hashutsujo Vol.199
38. *19,282 *19,282 Sex Pistols Vol.9
39. *19,069 216,284 Giant Killing Vol.40
40. *18,994 *18,994 Hantsu x Trash Vol.10

41. *18,873 *19,184 Tobaku Datenroku Kaiji: One Poker-hen Vol.11
42. *18,262 *18,262 Bokutachi ga Yarimashita Vol.5
43. *18,213 323,602 Fairy Tail Vol.55
44. *17,886 *17,886 Jitsu wa Watashi wa Vol.17
45. *17,860 463,872 Boku no Hero Academia Vol.8
46. *16,784 *16,784 Mitsudomoe Vol.17
47. *16,546 *16,546 Sword Art Online: Mother's Rosario Vol.3
48. *16,138 *16,138 Harigane Service Vol.10
49. *15,965 *32,931 Omukae desu. Vol.6
50. *15,801 159,885 Kakegurui Vol.5

Source: Oricon Youtaijou

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Awesome to see HxH and Drifters at the top this week, hopefully the latter gets a boost when the anime begins to air.

> 10. 103,864 103,864 Yowamushi Pedal Vol.45
This brings a smile to my face.
 
 
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Nice sales for Prison School and Boku no hero.

Wish there was a sequel to Kuro Ouji. Shoujo rarely get sequels :/
It would be cool if Last Game got an adaptation.
 
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Nice cover for HXH , glad to see D.Gray-man Vol.25 in list .

people are hyped for hallow

 
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Nice sales for Prison School :)
 
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Hxh almost on Snk Level with those sales.
 
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Great to see HxH and Prison School still going strong. HxH sales are incredible considering the hiatus' the series has had.

40. *18,994 *18,994 Hantsu x Trash Vol.10
44. *17,886 *17,886 Jitsu wa Watashi wa Vol.17

Fab to see Hantsu x Trash up there again, got the LE coming my way, hope that sold a decent amount below the cut-off. Jitsu wa sadly saw no boost from the anime but at least it's selling okay and not seemingly in danger of cancellation.
 
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Is Drifters worth the read?
 
 
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Very nice sales from Hunter x Hunter. Just goes to show how popular it really is despite the constant hiatuses. My Hero Academia is also selling really well.
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Hxh, Drifters and D. Gray - Man in the top 10. awesome!
 
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I wonder if Mix can get anime adaption since a lot of Adachi's works had it xD

I'm sad I thought DGM will sell more after the long hiatus >< but still it's a good number and I hope it rise more after the beginning of Hallow

I'm happy to see Yowamushi Pedal in the list! it's a very long sports manga and I hope to see it all adapted as anime! even if it was seasonal like Major's case xD I really love this anime <3 one of the best new generation sports anime

Kuroshitsuji is doing great too I hope to see a new season and we already have the movie upcoming in 2017 <3

Bungou Stray Dogs is doing good too! the anime influence I guess xD

it would be great to see anime for Last Game since it's going to end in 2 months! it seems impossible but I'm still hoping for announcement xD
also Horimiya seems to be ending soon so I want to see anime for this cute manga <33
 
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With 2 days I wasn't really expecting the last volumes of Sengoku Youko or Spirit Circle here but it's still sad, hopefully they make it next week, would be even sadder for their volumes to never rank.
 
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Awesome to see HxH at the top for a second straight week! I guess the hiatuses didn't affect the loyalty of the fanbase.
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Nice! Hunter x Hunter almost reached 1 million copies for this volume, and by the end of the year it might even happen. Also glad to see that the Boku no Hero Academia boost is still in effect.
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Nice sales from BnHa and DGM
also Nisekoi passing Toriko like i expected.
 
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AdmiralKizaru98 said:
Hxh almost on Snk Level with those sales.


Saying hxh is almost close to snk level is like saying snk is close to one piece level, I'm sure if I said that, you and the entire one piece brigade would be giving me sales figures telling me that snk isn't on one piece level. excluding the terrible sales of volume 19 which is around 1.6/1.7 million limited edition included, even with volume 19 poor sales snk is still at least 600k above hxh currently. Snk normally sells over 2 million and to my knowledge hxh sells a little over 1 million, like 1.1 or 1.2 million. If I'm correct naruto sells a bit more than hxh in terms of per volume sales.

So if you're going to say that hxh is close to snk level for selling 900k, you might as well add naruto, assclass, tokyo ghoul and haikyuu as well, since they all sell over 1 million. I know you guys are excited for hxh, but at least keep a level head and make sure what you're saying makes sense.
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This is depressing :'(
I blame Toei and Jump's bad management, this should be a crime committed against the mangaka.
The only thing that can heal it is a season 2.

12. *76,032 182,212 Toriko Vol.39
 
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29. *28,810 154,858 Bokura wa Minna Kawaisou Vol.8

Damn i forgot about this hoping there's a season 2 someday
 
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Is Drifters worth the read?
The anime is coming in October, just wait for it unless you really want to read it. And yes it's good
 
 
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Drifters takes second place, cant wait to see how the anime will be
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ichii_1 said:
This is depressing :'(
I blame Toei and Jump's bad management, this should be a crime committed against the mangaka.
The only thing that can heal it is a season 2.

12. *76,032 182,212 Toriko Vol.39

Yeah I put a lot of blame with Toei as well. With that abomination of an ending to the anime a season 2 would not be possible, a reboot on the other hand would be more than welcome but with the series seemingly being rushed to a conclusion that possibility is all but naught.
 
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Boku no hero doing well, that puts a smile to my face. Hunter x Hunter still making a lot of sells, I hope Togashi can keep going and making more chapters, Dark Continent looks to be very promising.
 
 
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alpha_shadow said:
Nice! Hunter x Hunter almost reached 1 million copies for this volume, and by the end of the year it might even happen. Also glad to see that the Boku no Hero Academia boost is still in effect.


Pretty sure the volume has already sold 1 million.
 
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FallenDesire said:
ichii_1 said:
This is depressing :'(
I blame Toei and Jump's bad management, this should be a crime committed against the mangaka.
The only thing that can heal it is a season 2.

12. *76,032 182,212 Toriko Vol.39

Yeah I put a lot of blame with Toei as well. With that abomination of an ending to the anime a season 2 would not be possible, a reboot on the other hand would be more than welcome but with the series seemingly being rushed to a conclusion that possibility is all but naught.

Why would you blame Toei? the anime is the reason the manga had a short lived surge of popularity.

The series was heavily advertised and pushed to be the next big runner in Jump but it failed to be. Nobody is to blamed but the manga itself.
 
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FallenDesire said:
ichii_1 said:
This is depressing :'(
I blame Toei and Jump's bad management, this should be a crime committed against the mangaka.
The only thing that can heal it is a season 2.

12. *76,032 182,212 Toriko Vol.39

Yeah I put a lot of blame with Toei as well. With that abomination of an ending to the anime a season 2 would not be possible, a reboot on the other hand would be more than welcome but with the series seemingly being rushed to a conclusion that possibility is all but naught.

a reboot in the future is possible

look at ushio to tora
 
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tsudecimo said:
Why would you blame Toei? the anime is the reason the manga had a short lived surge of popularity.

The series was heavily advertised and pushed to be the next big runner in Jump but it failed to be. Nobody is to blamed but the manga itself.

The anime butchered just about all the great points about the series and inserted awful filler characters for no reason. If done right like the HxH anime by Madhouse was it could have gone onto much greater popularity but no, they toned it down massively for it's timeslot which was a bad move. The movie was semi-decent but they do have a good track record with movies bizarrely.
 
 
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FallenDesire said:
tsudecimo said:
Why would you blame Toei? the anime is the reason the manga had a short lived surge of popularity.

The series was heavily advertised and pushed to be the next big runner in Jump but it failed to be. Nobody is to blamed but the manga itself.

The anime butchered just about all the great points about the series and inserted awful filler characters for no reason. If done right like the HxH anime by Madhouse was it could have gone onto much greater popularity but no, they toned it down massively for it's timeslot which was a bad move. The movie was semi-decent but they do have a good track record with movies bizarrely.


hxh 2011 anime was a flop. btw toriko anime was more successful than that
 
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WhiteFlamee said:
FallenDesire said:

Yeah I put a lot of blame with Toei as well. With that abomination of an ending to the anime a season 2 would not be possible, a reboot on the other hand would be more than welcome but with the series seemingly being rushed to a conclusion that possibility is all but naught.

a reboot in the future is possible

look at ushio to tora


There's no way that's gonna happen, at least anytime soon, lol. The Toriko anime is pretty new. Ushio and Tora got a remake after 25 years. That's a lot of time. Plus Ushio To Tora is one of the best selling manga ever, according to wikipedia, it has 30 million volumes in print. That's more than the Toriko manga sales.
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tsudecimo said:
FallenDesire said:

Yeah I put a lot of blame with Toei as well. With that abomination of an ending to the anime a season 2 would not be possible, a reboot on the other hand would be more than welcome but with the series seemingly being rushed to a conclusion that possibility is all but naught.

Why would you blame Toei? the anime is the reason the manga had a short lived surge of popularity.

The series was heavily advertised and pushed to be the next big runner in Jump but it failed to be. Nobody is to blamed but the manga itself.

it wasnt short lived of popularity. Toriko popularity lasted long

toei is still to be blamed since they ended on anime only ending. huge left turn from the manga

drop in toriko sales began during the animes airing
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WhiteFlamee said:
a reboot in the future is possible

look at ushio to tora

Adding to what alpha_shadow said, Ushio to Tora wasn't a Jump title though, Jump have and always will have a lot of series with a clean slate so to speak to push and promote. No point trying to flog a dead horse as they say. Nothing in it for them.

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hxh 2011 anime was a flop. btw toriko anime was more successful than that

You sure? Doubt they'd have approved 148 episodes if it was a flop and not cancel early.
 
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alpha_shadow said:
WhiteFlamee said:

a reboot in the future is possible

look at ushio to tora


There's no way that's gonna happen, at least anytime soon, lol. The Toriko anime is pretty new. Ushio and Tora got a remake after 25 years. That's a lot of time. Plus Ushio To Tora is one of the best selling manga ever, according to wikipedia, it has 30 million volumes in print. That's more than the Toriko manga sales.

why wont a reboot in the future happen? the anime was popular. Toriko will have 30 million volumes in print by the time its done. I am saying that a reboot might happen after the manga is done.
 
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WhiteFlamee said:
FallenDesire said:

The anime butchered just about all the great points about the series and inserted awful filler characters for no reason. If done right like the HxH anime by Madhouse was it could have gone onto much greater popularity but no, they toned it down massively for it's timeslot which was a bad move. The movie was semi-decent but they do have a good track record with movies bizarrely.


hxh 2011 anime was a flop. btw toriko anime was more successful than that


Lol, you're a funny guy, what's your source on that? Oh, none what so ever? Surprising.

The Hunter x Hunter 2011 anime is more successful since it gave the Hunter x Hunter manga a new boost in popularity by bringing in new fans, while Toriko failed to give the series a long lasting boost in manga sales and popularity, as soon as the anime ended the manga started selling worse and worse. Hunter x Hunter 2011 is also more successful in the west than Toriko, which doesn't matter that much, but it still shows which one of the 2 are more succesful.
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FallenDesire said:
tsudecimo said:
Why would you blame Toei? the anime is the reason the manga had a short lived surge of popularity.

The series was heavily advertised and pushed to be the next big runner in Jump but it failed to be. Nobody is to blamed but the manga itself.

The anime butchered just about all the great points about the series and inserted awful filler characters for no reason. If done right like the HxH anime by Madhouse was it could have gone onto much greater popularity but no, they toned it down massively for it's timeslot which was a bad move. The movie was semi-decent but they do have a good track record with movies bizarrely.

If you looked at actual statistics. You would know that Toriko anime was popular, and was a lot more popular than HxH 2011. It seems you are just making impressions based on it's popularity in the west.

Toriko anime had high TV ratings. It had a great TV time slot and it's by Toei so it's to be expected. Not only that but the anime boosted the manga by a lot. Toriko for the first time entered the yearly manga rankings. Having 4 million copies sold. And it's all thanks to the anime. So any way you look at it, Toriko's anime was more successful than HxH 2011, which btw didn't do anything to increase the popularity of the manga, as HxH was already a big manga in Japan. Only effect it had was having a couple of volumes reprinted while the anime was airing. The anime itself had good to average TV ratings, with abysmal merchandise sales.

So fillers, ''butchering'' or not is irrelevant. The anime did great, and boosted the manga. For obvious reasons Dragonball took the slot of Toriko. And the manga declined heavily in popularity, with no apparent plans to bring it back again.

So again, the problem is with Toriko. There is no manga in recent memory that had as much of push in Shounen Jump like Toriko. It just shows you can't force popularity.
 
 
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alpha_shadow said:
WhiteFlamee said:


hxh 2011 anime was a flop. btw toriko anime was more successful than that


Lol, you're a funny guy, what's your source on that? Oh, none what so ever? Surprising.

The Hunter x Hunter 2011 anime is more successful since it gave the Hunter x Hunter manga a new boost in popularity by bringing in new fans, while Toriko failed to give the series a long lasting boost in manga sales and popularity, as soon as the anime ended the manga started selling worse and worse. Hunter x Hunter 2011 is also more successful in the west than Toriko, which doesn't matter that much, but it still shows which one of the 2 are more succesful.

can someone else deal with madhouse wanker?

hxh was already popular before the reboot.
 
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tsudecimo said:
FallenDesire said:

The anime butchered just about all the great points about the series and inserted awful filler characters for no reason. If done right like the HxH anime by Madhouse was it could have gone onto much greater popularity but no, they toned it down massively for it's timeslot which was a bad move. The movie was semi-decent but they do have a good track record with movies bizarrely.

If you looked at actual statistics. You would know that Toriko anime was popular, and was a lot more popular than HxH 2011. It seems you are just making impressions based on it's popularity in the west.

Toriko anime had high TV ratings. It had a great TV time slot and it's by Toei so it's to be expected. Not only that but the anime boosted the manga by a lot. Toriko for the first time entered the yearly manga rankings. Having 4 million copies sold. And it's all thanks to the anime. So any way you look at it, Toriko's anime was more successful than HxH 2011, which btw didn't do anything to increase the popularity of the manga, as HxH was already a big manga in Japan. Only effect it had was having a couple of volumes reprinted while the anime was airing. The anime itself had good to average TV ratings, with abysmal merchandise sales.

So fillers, ''butchering'' or not is irrelevant. The anime did great, and boosted the manga. For obvious reasons Dragonball took the slot of Toriko. And the manga declined heavily in popularity, with no apparent plans to bring it back again.

So again, the problem is with Toriko. There is no manga in recent memory that had as much of push in Shounen Jump like Toriko. It just shows you can't force popularity.


boku no hero had a similar and maybe more of a push. kishimoto and oda pushed the series. Toriko got a crossover with one piece because of his good relation with oda.
 
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boku no hero had a similar and maybe more of a push. kishimoto and oda pushed the series. Toriko got a crossover with one piece because of his good relation with oda.

In what way? I didn't see any advertisement of Boku no hero, with Naruto or One Piece. Oda's comment in SSB came after the series was already popular.

It didn't get a crossover with just one piece. But with Dragon ball as well. It got a cross with the two most popular manga in Shounen Jump history, if that's not the biggest push possible, idk what is.
 
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tsudecimo said:
WhiteFlamee said:


boku no hero had a similar and maybe more of a push. kishimoto and oda pushed the series. Toriko got a crossover with one piece because of his good relation with oda.

In what way? I didn't see any advertisement of Boku no hero, with Naruto or One Piece. Oda's comment in SSB came after the series was already popular.

It didn't get a crossover with just one piece. But with Dragon ball as well. It got a cross with the two most popular manga in Shounen Jump history, if that's not the biggest push possible, idk what is.

http://vignette1.wikia.nocookie.net/bokunoheroacademia/images/2/28/Masashi_Kishimoto_drawing_MHA_Anime.png/revision/latest?cb=20160325035353

anime celebration

that anime crossovers helped the anime more than the manga. toriko was already massively popular before the dragon ball crossover
 
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FallenDesire said:
WhiteFlamee said:
a reboot in the future is possible

look at ushio to tora

Adding to what alpha_shadow said, Ushio to Tora wasn't a Jump title though, Jump have and always will have a lot of series with a clean slate so to speak to push and promote. No point trying to flog a dead horse as they say. Nothing in it for them.

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hxh 2011 anime was a flop. btw toriko anime was more successful than that

You sure? Doubt they'd have approved 148 episodes if it was a flop and not cancel early.
that dude said it was a flop. lmfao he knows nothing
 
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Lol, you're a funny guy, what's your source on that? Oh, none what so ever? Surprising.

The Hunter x Hunter 2011 anime is more successful since it gave the Hunter x Hunter manga a new boost in popularity by bringing in new fans, while Toriko failed to give the series a long lasting boost in manga sales and popularity, as soon as the anime ended the manga started selling worse and worse. Hunter x Hunter 2011 is also more successful in the west than Toriko, which doesn't matter that much, but it still shows which one of the 2 are more succesful.

can someone else deal with madhouse wanker?

hxh was already popular before the reboot.


Sure, I agree, Hunter x Hunter was already popular before it got it's remake and it only got a 100k-200k boost per new volume +backlog sales as the show was airing, but that's impressive enough for such a popular series. Can't say the same about Toriko, it's lagging behind in terms of sales and it'll probably end soon enough.

Also, what's your source on Toriko being more succesfull than HxH 2011? Sure, someone above said it had good ratings, but that's to be expected since it was on probably the best spot where anime can get aired on Japanese TV, so I don't find that surprising.

Edit: I'm also done with this discussion since it's pretty pointless and it won't be getting anywhere with you.
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alpha_shadow said:
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can someone else deal with madhouse wanker?

hxh was already popular before the reboot.


Sure, I agree, Hunter x Hunter was already popular before it got it's remake and it only got a 100k-200k boost per new volume +backlog sales as the show was airing, but that's impressive enough for such a popular series. Can't say the same about Toriko, it's lagging behind in terms of sales and it'll probably end soon enough.

Also, what's your source on Toriko being more succesfull than HxH 2011? Sure, someone above said it had good ratings, but that's to be expected since it was on probably the best spot where anime can get aired on Japanese TV, so I don't find that surprising.

Edit: I'm also done with this discussion since it's pretty pointless and it won't be getting anywhere with you.

it had better ratings. u cant just ignore that and hxh dvd/bluray sales were awful
 
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Sure, I agree, Hunter x Hunter was already popular before it got it's remake and it only got a 100k-200k boost per new volume +backlog sales as the show was airing, but that's impressive enough for such a popular series. Can't say the same about Toriko, it's lagging behind in terms of sales and it'll probably end soon enough.

Also, what's your source on Toriko being more succesfull than HxH 2011? Sure, someone above said it had good ratings, but that's to be expected since it was on probably the best spot where anime can get aired on Japanese TV, so I don't find that surprising.

What kind of arbitrary judgement is this? you are saying HxH anime was more successful because of a manga boost, but denying the same for Toriko based on the fact it lost popularity later on? Who cares dude. Fact is Toriko anime boosted the sales to 4 millions. Toriko wasn't even able to enter top 50 yearly, one year before.

You answered your own question. It had better TV ratings. Which is more important as a measure of anime's success, than a boost. Which Toriko already did anyway, and it was more than HxH's. So I'm not sure what are you even getting at here, aside from using a future sales point as basis to discredit the actual relevant statistics of Toriko's anime success.

HxH didn't plummet in popularity because it didn't need an anime to be popular in the first place. The same thing isn't true for Toriko, and that's about it.
 
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Adding to what alpha_shadow said, Ushio to Tora wasn't a Jump title though, Jump have and always will have a lot of series with a clean slate so to speak to push and promote. No point trying to flog a dead horse as they say. Nothing in it for them.


You sure? Doubt they'd have approved 148 episodes if it was a flop and not cancel early.
that dude said it was a flop. lmfao he knows nothing


hxh 2011 anime was a flop. do your research and find out.
 
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tsudecimo said:
using a future sales point as basis to discredit the actual relevant statistics of Toriko's anime success.

HxH didn't plummet in popularity because it didn't need an anime to be popular in the first place. The same thing isn't true for Toriko, and that's about it.


It great in the first 2 years, fine but the point is the anime butchered the best arc in Toriko and no one bothered with the manga because of that.
It's like taking the Frieza arc make the animation shit then during the Ginyu fight Goku goes gay rainbow vampire mode and rekts him plus freeza in 2 episodes and everyone is safe (The End).

Toriko manga was popular enough to get those crossovers, but they had no idea how to market toriko.
Tons of irrelevant ads and merch (awful btw) and no control of the amount of games they were pumping out over saturating the market.
 
 
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Crossovers aren't a push! Why do people love to say that when there is no series that got a push in that way.
Not Sket Dance with Gintama,. Not Haikyuu!! with Nisekoi. Not Psi Kusuo Saiki with Assassination Classroom. Not, Detective Conan with Lupin III. Not Detective Conan with Kindaichi. Not One Piece with Dragon Ball. Not Chopper with Hello Kitty.

None of those, got any increase in popularity because of a crossover. There are so many other ways and effective way of advertising, crossover isn't one of those. If it was, total obscure series would be using it.

Toriko crossover with One Piece, both in manga and anime, is because first Toriko was mega popular in the magazine! The manga crossover was to advertise that Toriko was airing in the same TV block than One Piece, and that means 3 years after Toriko started. By that time Toriko already was the 3rd pillar of the magazine at the time and its anime highly anticipated! It even already had 2 OVA in Jump Festa.
Second, Mitsutoshi the author of Toriko started is career in Jump one issue before Oda. Also that first series of his was 1 of the pillars of Weekly Shonen Jump during the late 90s, together with One Piece and HunterXHunter.
Third, Same anime block to One Piece. Is normal for big series in the same anime block, to have some kind of projects advertised together. One Piece at its early day got specials(not mixed, just one beside another) with Kochikame, Sazae-san, Chibi Maruko-chan. Its first movies where like this specials airing right besides Digimon.
Third, Toriko world is similar in wackiness with One Piece, so perfect to do a crossover.


Is true that Toei animation advertised heavily Toriko, and rightfully, it was mega popular in the magazine, but I don't understand why the crossovers come always in conversations as if is some kind of big advertisement.
Seems like there is some sin committed just by Toriko appearing beside One Piece and Dragon Ball. All of them are franchises of Toei and aired in the same anime Block(just airing in the same anime block is a way bigger advertisement than the crossovers).
 
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ichii_1 said:
tsudecimo said:
using a future sales point as basis to discredit the actual relevant statistics of Toriko's anime success.

HxH didn't plummet in popularity because it didn't need an anime to be popular in the first place. The same thing isn't true for Toriko, and that's about it.


It great in the first 2 years, fine but the point is the anime butchered the best arc in Toriko and no one bothered with the manga because of that.
It's like taking the Frieza arc make the animation shit then during the Ginyu fight Goku goes gay rainbow vampire mode and rekts him plus freeza in 2 episodes and everyone is safe (The End).

Toriko manga was popular enough to get those crossovers, but they had no idea how to market toriko.
Tons of irrelevant ads and merch (awful btw) and no control of the amount of games they were pumping out over saturating the market.


The "best arc in Toriko" you're saying was butchered, was the last arc adapted. They were ending the anime at that point. People had already 3 years to decide to become fans of the manga. They didn't. At that point, the series wasn't in growth anymore, in a long time.

They had a really good idea in how to market Toriko. In fact Toriko, like all the author series, where always mega popular with kids and always were mega popular in the magazine, but didn't sell as well in volume.
Who do you think where the people that were constantly sending drawing of new ingredients? Adults? Nope, Kids!

Toriko only has 5 games. 1 in 2011, the year of the anime. 2 in 2012 and other 2 in 2013. I don't see how that comes even closer of oversaturation.

Toriko just wasn't as popular as you wished for, things like that happen all the time. In fact the companies expect this, because something becoming mega popular is the rare thing.
 
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bigivelfhq said:
ichii_1 said:


It great in the first 2 years, fine but the point is the anime butchered the best arc in Toriko and no one bothered with the manga because of that.
It's like taking the Frieza arc make the animation shit then during the Ginyu fight Goku goes gay rainbow vampire mode and rekts him plus freeza in 2 episodes and everyone is safe (The End).

Toriko manga was popular enough to get those crossovers, but they had no idea how to market toriko.
Tons of irrelevant ads and merch (awful btw) and no control of the amount of games they were pumping out over saturating the market.


The "best arc in Toriko" you're saying was butchered, was the last arc adapted. They were ending the anime at that point. People had already 3 years to decide to become fans of the manga. They didn't. At that point, the series wasn't in growth anymore, in a long time.

They had a really good idea in how to market Toriko. In fact Toriko, like all the author series, where always mega popular with kids and always were mega popular in the magazine, but didn't sell as well in volume.
Who do you think where the people that were constantly sending drawing of new ingredients? Adults? Nope, Kids!

Toriko only has 5 games. 1 in 2011, the year of the anime. 2 in 2012 and other 2 in 2013. I don't see how that comes even closer of oversaturation.

Toriko just wasn't as popular as you wished for, things like that happen all the time. In fact the companies expect this, because something becoming mega popular is the rare thing.

what makes you think the people sending in drawings were only kids?
 
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WhiteFlamee said:
bigivelfhq said:


The "best arc in Toriko" you're saying was butchered, was the last arc adapted. They were ending the anime at that point. People had already 3 years to decide to become fans of the manga. They didn't. At that point, the series wasn't in growth anymore, in a long time.

They had a really good idea in how to market Toriko. In fact Toriko, like all the author series, where always mega popular with kids and always were mega popular in the magazine, but didn't sell as well in volume.
Who do you think where the people that were constantly sending drawing of new ingredients? Adults? Nope, Kids!

Toriko only has 5 games. 1 in 2011, the year of the anime. 2 in 2012 and other 2 in 2013. I don't see how that comes even closer of oversaturation.

Toriko just wasn't as popular as you wished for, things like that happen all the time. In fact the companies expect this, because something becoming mega popular is the rare thing.

what makes you think the people sending in drawings were only kids?


Adults rarely send drawings! Not even in One Piece they do that.
Have you ever watched the drawings? Here one
 
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bigivelfhq said:
WhiteFlamee said:

what makes you think the people sending in drawings were only kids?


Adults rarely send drawings! Not even in One Piece they do that.
Have you ever watched the drawings? Here one

teenagers?

arent u assuming adults or teenagers can draw well? xD
 
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Horimiya did good again.
 
 
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WhiteFlamee said:
bigivelfhq said:


Adults rarely send drawings! Not even in One Piece they do that.
Have you ever watched the drawings? Here one

teenagers?

arent u assuming adults or teenagers can draw well? xD


When I said kid, I'm including all the Shonen demographic! So Teenagers are also included!

Is not about drawing well, but the type of drawing style a young person is different from that of a more adult person. A kid/teenager gets satisfied with a kind of drawing that a older person doesn't.
 
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