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| This show has been fun to watch, if not particularly original. But throwing in this crappy villain and his ridiculous plan really makes me wonder if the rest of the series is really worth watching. A better story might have been them being refused entry into the capital (very likely) and then having to fend for themselves on their single train in the chaotic world. |
| Really bad episode, I don't like all this super powers. They completely change the tone of the anime. |
| WHYTF IS THIS ONLY 12 EPISODES GOD DAMMIT??!!! Mumei biggest derp of the season |
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| Well, Biba's pure evil. A complete villain. There's no going back from this. How he can even justify this is a mystery. But I guess he's the type that believes sacrifices are necessarily. Ironic since that's probably exactly what the Shogun felt when he betrayed him. But what Biba has done is arguably worse than the Shogun (even if we don't know the complete story there) Such scum. I'm really hoping Mumei pulls her shit together because there's no way these foolish humans should be able to hold her. Unless she continues cowering in a corner crying in denial. |
| Damn. Biba has no chill but at least he's making things pretty cool at the least. |
| Allow me to ask...Why are people calling this the WOST episode of the series? Is it because of the "IMA FIRAH MAH LAZER" kabane powers? Is it because Mumei is being the naive child that she is once again? Is it because Biba is confirmed evil to the core of the core? I'm not questioning peoples opinions...I just sincerely don't know the reason, since nothing really bothered me to that extent... |
| You are not your body, you are your brain, the "self" that emerges from within it. |
Darklight0303 said: QWERTYFish25 said: I can't really say I felt much from this episode. Normally I like the parts of the series where shit completely falls to shit and the impenetrable fortress gets overtaken and long-standing characters die but this gave me a tad of a meh felling. May be the execution, I figured Biba's betrayal would feel more genuine but this came off as typical. Felt like a LN at times. I gather he wants to militarize the entire population while simultaneously getting back at the Shogunate for betraying him years ago. He does a 9/11 to heat people up and convince them there is no safety behind wall nor place for the weak or some shit. I guess it is somewhat sensible. Though his killing of the guards who tried to run to safety on his train felt a bit dumb, and only there to emphasis the asshole factor. I'm getting a bit worried or the story but I can't expect much since it is 12 eps. And even with 24+ episodes they drags hit out 70% of the time. The action was OK, at least. 6.5/10 overall Didn't really sense much other than the typical Oujo-sama compassion. Apart for the very first episodes I feel they kinda let up on the bully on him, replacing it was showing his reliability as a fighter. Unfortunately they seemed to keep him with the fuckstick wide-eyed-idealist role, which is hard to like for me in most situations, even when it's 100% right. Suzaku from C.G. was more likeable because they were constantly challenged and broken in front of him until he had to make a compromise. Suzaku? Likable? Hahahahaha bullshit I will say he was angsty as fuck. But at the very least his character seemed a tad built up. Ikoma is one of the more likeable idealists. But meh kinda reminds me of Yuu from Owari. |
| First off - R.I.P Hobori your performance today was spectacular. Second- I know Mumei is like 12 or 13 but is she really that naive lol Third - patiently waiting on Biba to die a very horrible death. (Hopefully by the hands of Mumei or Ikoma) Other than that excellent ep |
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| It was like watching Attack on Titan lol, even with the human "titan" smashing the wall just like in Attack on Titan. |
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Itachi_0893 said: I facepalmed, the worst episode of the season, this is now the worst anime of the season. I'm going to guess you havent seen Big Order by that statement |
| Well this episode happened then. The MC screaming everything he says is starting to annoy me though. And is it just me, or does he seem really weak for a Kabaneri? If he ever does do something cool, it's with his gun. Anyways, I figured Biba would kill the leadership, but letting all the Kabane in to slaughter everyone is crazy. Also mega zombie Horobi doom lazer, haha. Really liked the tension between the Shogun and Biba's rebellion (I guess) forces. I figured this would just be some boring "save the world from zombies" anime but it's quickly turning to something I really like. |
| Lol a Zombie shooting lasers and a guy cutting a iron cable with a dagger, how cute. And I thought this show had a glimpse of hope, oh well, this show turned to have the same level of Big Order, Mayoiga, Ragnastrike, Onigiri and Seisen Cerberus. |
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| Such a waste, Horobi's character was really cool but she sadly ended up becoming more of a plot device to destroy the wall and also showcase Biba's concealed fear :( I'm assuming Mumei will be the next black cloud but with more durability after Horobi's test run, and the final conflict will be bringing her back to her old self while stopping Biba's tyranny. If that does happen it'll be kind of a bother to watch because I loved watching Mumei kicking ass, not needing to be saved! But she's still great either way. I'll probably keep my eye on Ayame and Kurusu because they both seem pretty cool too and I bet they'll have a few badass moments in the future. Ikoma on the other hand, I stopped caring about him after like episode 1 because all he does is yell self-righteously lol. God his character annoys me. He's like Eren from SNK but with the unnecessary intensity cranked up to the max. |
block1 said: Mumei is just plain ol' stupid to the core, isn't she? ^she just stands there asking "why?", it took her to the end of the liberation to realize that her brother isn't who she thought he was |
Darklight0303 said: Did you watch Chibi's "review" of this episode? I'm curious to hear your thoughts on thisFragOutFire said: Why is it always social-darwinism? what's even the point of showing the blue-blood girl regained her composure at the end? is it supposed to be tragic? this show has gotten pretty dumb Remember what she told Biba before she was turned. That she was afraid because Biba was affraid. And he denied it. The fact that she made him genuinely sweat proved how true that claim had been and she seemed to be happy with that outcome since she proved she knew him better than he would care to admit. That's at least one interpretation from her expression and previous scenes. For some reason a lot of people are hating on this episode and I really don't get why lol |
| What's That?!!............it's.....It's.... It's an AAAANGEERRRUUUU!!!! AAAaaargh!! Damit BIBA! can you be anymore stupid! Keep a very naive girl close to you, damn clueless of the actual mission, then give her the most crucial objective of the mission! You have all the loyal subordinates willing to die without a second though for your cause and clear on mission objectives (Especially the cute chick who turned into an Angel) .....but just ahppen to keep a clueless idiot beside you. That's a DEATH FLAG! on your mission man. Get rid of her ASAP. Who the Hell told me Mumei is Brainwashed?! WHO! You call that brainwashing? The idiot doesn't even know what she's doing. Everyone of Biba's men have undying determination and absolute loyalty and clearly not brainwashed. Mumei needs to follow her example  I'd rather cheer on the team that shouts LIBERATION!! than ROCK ON SHOUJO!! |
| Honestly, ever since Biba's appearance, the show has gone down in value for me. He's just a stupid "I want revenge" character. Nothing worse than that. Also, Mumei's a dumb bitch. Lmao. In the end, terrible 'villain'. 5/10 episode. |
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Tokoya said: Darklight0303 said: Did you watch Chibi's "review" of this episode? I'm curious to hear your thoughts on thisRemember what she told Biba before she was turned. That she was afraid because Biba was affraid. And he denied it. The fact that she made him genuinely sweat proved how true that claim had been and she seemed to be happy with that outcome since she proved she knew him better than he would care to admit. That's at least one interpretation from her expression and previous scenes. For some reason a lot of people are hating on this episode and I really don't get why lol I can understand Chibi's point about the Beam...But you could also say that his problem comes from his own expectations and impressions of the anime. HE thought that the anime was going to be Realistic Zombie Survival with Trains and then got mad when the anime didn't go with what he was thinking. Since so many people compare the Kabane with Zombies, they get the impression that Kabanes won't go too far from the standard Zombie, and now they're disappointed with the anime cuz of their own mistaken assumptions. |
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| Little sister's eyes begin to open. Big brother may be in deep trouble soon...;) |
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| so the final form of a Kabaneri can shoot energy blast eh, thats freaking cool lol |
Tokoya said: Yeah...I don't think the hate on this episode in particular is really deserved. I mean, given the last episode people already knew Biba would be the main villain, and even if he's cliche I still consider him a good villain for making things more epic and interesting. We still don't know exactly why he's doing this, but I think he suggested it's not just for being abandoned 10 years ago but also because of the Shogun's actions during the past 10 years?Darklight0303 said: Did you watch Chibi's "review" of this episode? I'm curious to hear your thoughts on thisRemember what she told Biba before she was turned. That she was afraid because Biba was affraid. And he denied it. The fact that she made him genuinely sweat proved how true that claim had been and she seemed to be happy with that outcome since she proved she knew him better than he would care to admit. That's at least one interpretation from her expression and previous scenes. For some reason a lot of people are hating on this episode and I really don't get why lol Anyway, Mumei has always made it clear how much she likes Biba so while it's understandable people are upset with her in this episode her actions made sense, she's still well written, and she's not brainless. I also think everyone is making too much fun of the beam Horobi shot. It could very well be explained just as the fused colony was, but if not, well...anything can happen when someone is injected with a large dose of refined super monster fluid. |
Baka-Hiru said: What's That?!!............it's.....It's.... It's an AAAANGEERRRUUUU!!!! AAAaaargh!! Damit BIBA! can you be anymore stupid! Keep a very naive girl close to you, damn clueless of the actual mission, then give her the most crucial objective of the mission! You have all the loyal subordinates willing to die without a second though for your cause and clear on mission objectives (Especially the cute chick who turned into an Angel) .....but just ahppen to keep a clueless idiot beside you. That's a DEATH FLAG! on your mission man. Get rid of her ASAP. Who the Hell told me Mumei is Brainwashed?! WHO! You call that brainwashing? The idiot doesn't even know what she's doing. Everyone of Biba's men have undying determination and absolute loyalty and clearly not brainwashed. But Baka-Hiru, In that case Mumei was a crucial piece of the operation. Why you see, the guys were not allowing men to enter, only woman or children. That's why Biba sent Mumei, a girl child, cuz who would've doubt a child at first right? Just to clarify, it wasn't safe to just sent a grown woman like Hiromi cuz they would still be suspicious of her, so only a child would do... Also, It isn't wrong to assume that Biba picked up a child for his army with that possibility in mind... |
HyperLJun 9, 2016 8:57 PM
| You are not your body, you are your brain, the "self" that emerges from within it. |
| I got a slight feeling from that smile Biba gave Ayame a the ep before he may try to make her his bitch. Could make it more interesting but Her body guard is a tad meh. |
HyperL said: But Baka-Hiru, In that case Mumei was a crucial piece of the operation. Why you see, the guys were not allowing men to enter, only woman or children. That's why Biba sent Mumei, a girl child, cuz who would've doubt a child at first right? Just to clarify, it wasn't safe to just sent a grown woman like Hiromi cuz they would still be suspicious of her, so only a child would do... Also, It isn't wrong to assume that Biba picked up a child for his army with that possibility in mind... Yeah but what I'm pointing out is the fact the she's clueless of the real mission (and also that shitty acting skills) ....She's become more of a burden actually. It's like you can only use her once. Can't help but feel that Biba's going to have a headache just trying re-educate her to make her mission ready. I'm just saying that you cannot be half-assed when it comes to an important team mission especially when it comes to war. Naive minds like her are so easily manipulated by the enemy jeopardizing the safety of the entire mission and the lives of their team. |
| Poor Horobi I was really liking her |
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| looks like the promise of Ikoma making Mumei human again will become true after all since the scientists have this white blood cure for the Kabane virus, i hope Kurusu gets as much technical info on the cure from that chief crazy scientist lol that white blood cure maybe the answer too on how to stop all Kabane infection/epidemic |
HyperL said: I'm not questioning peoples opinions...I just sincerely don't know the reason, since nothing really bothered me to that extent... The execution is forced, predictable and dull. It can excite teenagers, but if you're aware of the execution of the tropes, it's a really lame way to do things. I've been okay with the show, but this episode was the worse, since the way it was executed was downright dumb. _______________________________________ Wait, so they got telecomunication technology? (15:10) Goddammit, they would've used it on ep 1 to know the other station was overrun and avoided the original invasion. With the trains delivering goods all around japan, I see no reason to believe technology can't be transported for the benefit of mankind, like jet bullets. And I know they could've been monopolizing that technology, but ffs show give us that information at least. This show is a trainwreck for me now :/ Mumei, you're inmature, but you're the worst. |
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Tyrel said: Honestly, ever since Biba's appearance, the show has gone down in value for me. He's just a stupid "I want revenge" character. Nothing worse than that. Also, Mumei's a dumb bitch. Lmao. In the end, terrible 'villain'. 5/10 episode. You said it, couldn't agree more. and Human vs Humans.... geez like we haven't seen that before a million times. |
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| Originally I was on the fence of calling Biba a bad guy last episode, and more of a twisted anti-hero... but holy shit Biba is bat shit insane. Also what the fuck was that beam from horobi I was thinking something like a cero from bleach LOL Very fun episode for the most part |
| WTF was this shit!? This episode was so stupid. |
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| Biba is completely ridiculous. WTF! Dat hyper beam lmao |
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| This is getting really out of hand, why the fuck did that zombie thing just shoot an energy laser. lol |
Tokoya said: adapatations are not supposed to be carbon copies of source materials and until the anime community in general can accept that and judge an anime based on what it presents and how they handle every episode, these threads will continue to be filled with hate posts by purists |
| these characters are so stupid jesus |
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They shooting lasers now? This shit went from cool to ass real quick. |
HyperL said: But Baka-Hiru, In that case Mumei was a crucial piece of the operation. Why you see, the guys were not allowing men to enter, only woman or children. That's why Biba sent Mumei, a girl child, cuz who would've doubt a child at first right? Just to clarify, it wasn't safe to just sent a grown woman like Hiromi cuz they would still be suspicious of her, so only a child would do... Also, It isn't wrong to assume that Biba picked up a child for his army with that possibility in mind... I got a question for you. Do you approve Mumei for her actions, even if she is a girl and a child? (Just a little curious) |
| Mumei, you done fucked up good. I get she was brainwashed into believing Biba was a good guy but I thought she at least had common sense. Up until he arrived, she was literally one of the smartest characters. I mean, she seriously thought she was just letting in Biba's men to spite the station who kept them out? What did she expect to happen after that? Obviously shit was going to happen whether they brought the kabane in or not! I hate Biba so fucking much. He's not even a villain I like to hate. I just want him GONE. Also, whenever I hear his name, I think of that creepy children's show called Boobah because my little cousin could never say it right and called people "Biba" instead. https://youtu.be/tJvHrx1X-Gk |
JotakakJun 9, 2016 10:49 PM
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