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Jan 13, 2010 1:01 AM

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THIS IS AN ANIME ONLY DISCUSSION POST. DO NOT DISCUSS THE MANGA BEYOND THIS EPISODE.
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--Good for William's father! When he ran into that awful Campbell chap & told him that /he/ had done nothing to be ashamed of & that he was proud of his son, it really improved my opinion of his character.

--The flowers that Emma planted at the end--aww. :)

--I do still feel a little bad for Hans though...But as Hakim pointed out, there wasn't exactly a scenario that was going to leave everyone completely happy.

But overall, I liked the way this ended. =D
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Feb 9, 2010 12:09 PM

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yea what a great ending. Been pleasure watching this show.

Anyone else find it odd that no one seemed to age but William at the end? Lol
 
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Apr 26, 2010 12:38 AM

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Talk about a diamond in the ruff. This show needs more recommendation. It's a classic and so so memorable. Sure, it's a story told before but Emma and Jones' love was very charming. I couldn't stop watching an episode. *marathon-ed both seasons* x3

After the scene where they met up at the party for the first time, I had to stop and laugh and dance because I SO didn't see that coming but it was exactly what I wanted to happen that night. <3

Ahh.. what a great show. Just wish there were more like it.. It's saddening to see it come to an end but..

*sighs* T_T

[Edit] Is it just me or do other people also get a little depressed after watching shows like this? :')

 
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Oct 1, 2010 2:02 AM

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Poor Hans ;_;!!!
But, the show was amazing, I cried a lot in the end, was so beautiful all ;_;! Their kids, their house...
I need moar ;_;!
*go to read the manga x'DDD
 
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OnyxEyes3 said:
--Good for William's father! When he ran into that awful Campbell chap & told him that /he/ had done nothing to be ashamed of & that he was proud of his son, it really improved my opinion of his character.

After the part where he told William "Well done", my opinion of him had improved, but yes, I agree - the part where he told that Campbell off was the cherry on top. :D For sure.

Anyway, great episode. They were both held up and both late to the meeting spot... yet it still worked out perfectly.

"Happy endings" in other anime series sometimes don't really seem like good endings, and sometimes seem cheesy or rushed... but THIS one, I have to say, was very well done. It was in good taste, and after all the trouble these two have gone through, you know they just deserve this sort of happy, peaceful ending. It was wonderful and totally satisfying as a conclusion. :)

This was indeed a great series! It's unfortunate that it seems a bit underrated, or "under-watched", but hey, those who do chance upon it are hopefully pleasantly surprised. :D (Although, I could see and understand why some might find it boring - but to each their own, right?)
 
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Jan 14, 2011 2:24 PM

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Iiiuuuuu...
I don't like the end - I don't think, that Emma and William would have a good future. And who are their children? Are they aristocrats? No. Will they want to stay a servants? No.
So, what they will do?
But Hans and Emma could be an ideal spouses. As well as William and Eleanor...
 
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Jan 23, 2011 8:34 PM
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I didn't mind the fairytale ending, what I disliked was how it lead there. Both seasons had a nice steady pace, but these final episodes seemed to make it blatantly obvious what the ending was going to be and made a beeline to it.

Little disappointed, but overall 8/10.
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Apr 10, 2011 1:23 PM

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The ending was very rushed IMO. They should have taken some extra episodes to eleborate what happened exactly in the end. How did the marriage go? etc. etc.

Still liked it tho.
 
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Sep 16, 2011 8:22 AM

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Overall I thought the first season was better simply because Emma and William had more interactions compared to this one. Anything else that didn't involve Emma and William directly felt like a distraction as the series really didn't do so well making the other characters interesting enough for me to care about what happens to them.

That being said, I thought it was a decent series as a whole and it was definitely worth the watch and the conclusion was more than satisfying though even if it was obvious it was going to end that way.
 
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I usually dislike this kind of story. "The poor falls in love with the rich" is so overused here in my country that I grew tired of it like 15 years ago, yet this was the first time I've seen it done properly.

Sure he could've proposed to her ages ago (if Emma wasn't so busy running away from him), but seeing as how irresponsible and spoiled he was back then, I thought that would only result to disaster. I don't like William tbh, but his development from being stupid and selfish to being responsible made him worthy of Emma.

I would've liked to see what happened before and after the wedding, but I'm satisfied with this. 10/10 for me.

Funny thing: I was at the fountain scene when the power went out. LOL. Great timing.
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Oct 25, 2012 8:40 PM

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Not enough love rectangle tension.... but it's not that kind of show I suppose.

I enjoyed 1st season more for sure.

Great watch nonetheless.
 
May 17, 2013 5:36 PM

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Damn that ending, it has been a while that the ending really made me smile of joy for the characters! In the end I'm happy with the outcome the buildup towards this ending sure was worth the two season! I enjoyed the overall development of all the characters and the atmosphere brought the setting beautiful in picture!

In general I really liked this anime, a great setting some nice art and even a fantastic ending for all the other characters put down in the credits! A well made anime series that's for sure! 9/10
 
Jun 2, 2013 5:37 PM

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Okay series I guess. Some people probably enjoyed it a lot more than me though but I'm not a big fan of romance/historical hybrids.

However, William and Emma's bond as well as their relationship through the course of both series were definitely highlight factors. Oh and I'm glad she accepted the proposal ^_-

6/10
 
Mar 12, 2014 5:41 AM
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Normally I'm a bit wary of fairy tale endings, but this one was done right. My opinion of both William and his dad rose in the last couple of chapters and things were handled without the over the top pathos of other shows. Definitely a show that is underrated in MAL.
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Mar 27, 2014 5:09 PM
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Elfana said:
I'm sad it's over x3

But I really liked the ending :3


I absolutely agree with your opinion and how you have felt X. Never seen something so amazing like this anime. Probably my best romance story ever x). I feel really happy now that in the end everything have sorted out. Happy new beggining of life for Mr. William and Mrs. Emma!! x)
 
Mar 27, 2014 5:45 PM
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WildWest said:
Iiiuuuuu...
I don't like the end - I don't think, that Emma and William would have a good future.

I must say,that this anime is not about good future. I mean,what author should probably wanted to show us is what the true love is. in the end,Emma and William decided to make a future together,which means, their love overcame everything else. As long as they can stay together,they will be happy,support each other as they can. And also,dont forget what Williams father told in the end "A society where even people like you are respected as gentlemen will perhaps be destined to disappear one day" which means,i think,that the times are changing. And i must say,that in the end,where William and Emma are staying at the garden, it is pretty much obvious that they are happy:) And finally, Enmmas words to William about flowers Lilly of valley meaning "You will find happiness"

They are deffinatelly happy,relax guys! x))
 
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Hi to all,

i love the anime and the music...when Wiliam hug hakim , a piano mood, that is not in the OST ..did you someone known the name of songS?

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Jul 14, 2014 12:27 PM

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Who's the black haired guy when Eleanor playing a piano? It looks like Arthur, but he's blond tho.
 
Aug 8, 2014 12:47 AM

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Im sad its the end. Im kinda feeling the "void."

Nice ending. You can really see in this episode how much Emma love William. They really are perfect for each other. And wow! four kids! they sure are working hard.

I loved this series. 9/10
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Sep 13, 2014 1:58 AM

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Amazing. I was so depressed from S1 and so frustrated until the first half of this season but now all the bad feelings I've had have been cleansed. BANZAI!

Now what am I supposed to watch ;__;
"May those who accept their fate be granted happiness."

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Mar 3, 2015 2:47 PM

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I really liked Hans. It's a shame that Emma already likes William. So final thoughts on both season:

Good stuff. I really liked how everything flowed and how natural it felt.

My biggest problem was Emma. She's so passive, dull and uninteresting to watch. "Eh?", "Oh, sorry.", and "Excuse me." are the only three phrases she knows how to say. William is a decent guy but he got boring. I'd much rather watch Hakim or (Hans instead.

I think William really screwed up when he substituted Elanor for Emma but hey, he's human. I don't blame him that much.

Character interactions were great in this season, btw. Especially by adding the other maids and rich family.

Gonna read the manga in the future!

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Dec 2, 2015 11:12 PM

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It was fun while it lasted. A Happy Ending is always welcomed.
But if you think about it, i agree it would make sense if William married Miss Eleanor and Emma married Mr.Hans. But it can't helped. Emma and William Jones were made for each other.
Anyway, I really Enjoyed the Anime. Manga was even better. (In manga) I got carried away when Emma wrote her last name as Stownar in the End.
Some of the Characters I really love are Kelly Stownar, Grace Jones and that Cute little Princess Miss Eleanor Campbell. Watching this Anime was Great Experience.
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Dec 26, 2015 11:15 AM

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Emma was really popular in the entire series. She was always beloved by someone. The ending was expected but was good altogether
 
May 7, 2016 7:10 AM

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I am glad they had a happy ending! It was really nice to see their kids in the end!
9/10
 
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Really enjoyed it. The ending felt a tad bit rushed though. I felt the whole house burning in episode 11 to be unneeded.

Though I have one question. Who was that guy it focused on at Elanor's recital?

What I didn't understand is why Aurelia still lived away from them. Was she actually sick or was it just the stress of society? That whole plot seemed odd to me.
 
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jak123 said:
Really enjoyed it. The ending felt a tad bit rushed though. I felt the whole house burning in episode 11 to be unneeded.

Though I have one question. Who was that guy it focused on at Elanor's recital?

What I didn't understand is why Aurelia still lived away from them. Was she actually sick or was it just the stress of society? That whole plot seemed odd to me.

That house burning intends to i think for Hans to realize how much Emma really love William when she wants to get the handkerchief and also a distraction for Emma to go to the fountain and becoming late.

I think Aurelia develop a sickness where the air in London is bad for her but what's confusing is why their children didn't visit her at all.
 
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makOYzki said:
jak123 said:
Really enjoyed it. The ending felt a tad bit rushed though. I felt the whole house burning in episode 11 to be unneeded.

Though I have one question. Who was that guy it focused on at Elanor's recital?

What I didn't understand is why Aurelia still lived away from them. Was she actually sick or was it just the stress of society? That whole plot seemed odd to me.

That house burning intends to i think for Hans to realize how much Emma really love William when she wants to get the handkerchief and also a distraction for Emma to go to the fountain and becoming late.

I think Aurelia develop a sickness where the air in London is bad for her but what's confusing is why their children didn't visit her at all.
See that's my thing. Emma's letter made it seem like they haven't seen her in like 10 years. I thought it was strange.
 
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Great show, I wished it didn't end here, their bond is very touching and always enjoyable to watch, it seems it didn't cover many things in the manga, gonna go read that. How come this series still ain't on blu ray yet?
 
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My fellow MAL users had said pretty much what I intended to say... but I just add my two cents...

The Molders & Co. were a joy to watch...

The majority of William sponsor were younglings except the last one who technically said that he is going to invest in the young ones’ future and going by what Richard told Viscount him at the end it was a sing for things to change...

Regarding Hans, like I stated in a previous episode forum the cover art for this season was misleading AF (the way he is touching her) I was expecting him to use underhanded methods to win Emma heart I’m glad he stayed a gentleman until the very end (that speech was a contrast as opposed as Eleanor but he was older so I give Eleanor selfishness a pass because of her inexperience, William giving her hope and her age)... I think he will be ok and maybe one of the maid/co-worker will be falling for him seen he is truly a good guy for example Adèle.

Glad Eleanor found a love interest (the guy with black hair that was watching her piano performnece) wanting to be with her for what she trully is 9that is the feeling that I get watching that scene)...

The only thing that I didn’t like was Aurelia is still living away from her husband & her children... but that is just me nitpicking.

Overall this was a good anime, would gladly recommend to fellow romance genre seekers...

OnyxEyes3 said:
--Good for William's father! When he ran into that awful Campbell chap & told him that /he/ had done nothing to be ashamed of & that he was proud of his son, it really improved my opinion of his character.
This...

merle_noir said:
"Happy endings" in other anime series sometimes don't really seem like good endings, and sometimes seem cheesy or rushed... but THIS one, I have to say, was very well done. It was in good taste, and after all the trouble these two have gone through, you know they just deserve this sort of happy, peaceful ending. It was wonderful and totally satisfying as a conclusion. :)

This was indeed a great series! It's unfortunate that it seems a bit underrated, or "under-watched", but hey, those who do chance upon it are hopefully pleasantly surprised. :D (Although, I could see and understand why some might find it boring - but to each their own, right?)
I couldn't have said it better myself.

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Overall I thought the first season was better simply because Emma and William had more interactions compared to this one.

That being said, I thought it was a decent series as a whole and it was definitely worth the watch and the conclusion was more than satisfying though even if it was obvious it was going to end that way.
+1

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My opinion of both William and his dad rose in the last couple of chapters and things were handled without the over the top pathos of other shows. Definitely a show that is underrated in MAL.
+1

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Amazing. I was so depressed from S1 and so frustrated until the first half of this season but now all the bad feelings I've had have been cleansed. BANZAI!
This AF...


 
Jan 14, 2018 8:37 AM

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I think the most touching thing about this was the fact that he planted roses despite knowing that the home was going to have new owners anyway.
 
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Kinda forget about Lord Jedburgh even tho they showed him in an earlier episode.

Hans was a good guy till the end, luckily he won't stay alone :P

And I dunno, I liked the happy ending overall yet it was lacking compared to the fantastic ride it was been. Fire was random and the whole conclusion rushed as hell and therefore it felt honestly anticlimatic. I was smiling, but I was simply hoping for more emotional payoff. One of the rare occasions were I'm actually not satisfied with a good conclusion due to high expectations.

Welp, not much I can do besides continuing with the manga. Still a great anime and one of the best love stories I've seen in this medium.

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