top 3 most annoying One piece characters aka. the 3 people who make you want to say JUST DIE ALREADY! contains spoilers upto #824

jal90 said:
2) Hody: a villain without a past or a motivation beyond killing and destroying. A poor delusional guy with inconsistant plans and actions. The FI arc was a bore mainly because of him.

LitzSabr said:


The thing that made it is now considered bad.. It would have made sense if you just said that he's annoying because his combat skills and tactics were poor but him having no reason for the discrimination was actually what's good.

Best two FI arc pages are because of that. Pretty much the peak point for the whole racism theme.

jal90 said:

I get what they tried to do with Hody, the problem is that in consequence the portrayal of the villain was damaged because he didn't even have a plan or a guideline, and if he did, he didn't care well enough, he just aimed to destroy and cause damage. In a series where villains usually have somewhat sophisticated plans this fell very flat.

Hody is a fine concept, but not a good one to base an entire arc on, specially one as significant and expected as the Fishman Island arc. He would have made a better antagonistic role if he had a solid and understandable goal. Not to mention that his "emptiness" comes across as a poor excuse for his badly thought out plans. One of the problems of Hody is that he doesn't seem to have limits in his moral approach, he is an extremist who would kill his own race in the process to defend it from human influence. You can't have a serious antagonist with that scheme.

jal90 said:

1) Sabo: the fanfic character, Ace 2.0, the expert in pointless fights, Random Amnesia Guy... I liked him as a kid but his comeback has been godawful in every level.

Ciara said:
I couldn't say it better, maybe save for calling Sabo a consolation prize after Ace. I hope the manga stays away from him for the next 200 chapters, his whole character is taken entirely from another (bad-written) manga.

Other than that I hope that every scenario with Marco will happen off-screen, because he didn't do jack shit aside from showing up at the War Summit and being a leet phen11xxxxxxxxx, and he's so hyped it's not even funny. Also his yelling is so annoying, I started to look for codes on the internetz which remove him from games he stars in. Spoiler: they don't exist :( I don't know, Vista and Jozu had practically the same role in Marinford, and I'm indifferent to them, but Marco just outrightly pisses me off.

ziggy_Z said:
1) Usopp
2) Smoker
3) Chopper

metsujin said:
Hm... I don't know I'd say (in no order):
- Chopper, I just don't see how people still call him cute or whatever, he's pretty boring actually and annoying.
- Sanji, because of his nosebleeding thing and over the top way to react when he sees a woman... it was funny a few times, now it got annoying.
- That guy from Enies Lobby he was dumb 'villain' or whatever he was, forgettable character.

Evarinya said:


Hmm. Chopper? I like the guy. But yeah, he's grown up now, so the 'cute mascot' shit is out of date. Can't hate Smokey. He reminds me of Kuzan a bit now. Not so BA of course. Sanji's habits are irritating but I like his strategic mind. Usopp. Oh well. He's super annoying but Teach, Vivi, Nami and every non-alliance supernova except Kid, Bonney and Drake are right up there with him. Hardly top 3! xP

Evarinya said:

3) Jack the Drought: One of Kaido's top men. has the makings of a good villain that wouldn't go down without a mammoth (pun intended) fight. Then he's pwned offscreen by Tsuru, Isshou and Sengoku. He survives. Ok. THEN he gets flattened by Zunisha and sinks to the bottom of the sea. And STILL, he's lying there and saying "somebody save me!" I know a Main Villain should ideally fight a MC. But isn't this taking things too far? At the current stage, a good villain being taken out by 'other methods' would have been refreshing. So, I literally want him to just die already.

BackgroundChara said:
You are too fixated in the story telling and writing aspect while Oda trying to portray Hody as realistically as possible.
Whether you like him as a villain in a fictional story or not, Oda did a good job portraying racism and discrimination in real life using Hody.

His emptiness is what a racism in real world is all about, you could ask Hitler what did Jewish did to him that made him slaughter them, you could ask Black and White people nowadays why they hate each other, you could ask why Moslem and Christian at each other's throat and the answer is nothing, that's what racism all about, people hate the opposing group just because they thought that what's the right thing to do, people tend to believe something that they heard for the first time and the foundation of the racism is mostly layed down to someone when he is a kid and resulting in an unreasonable hate toward opposing group just because they are told to do so, Hody is no different.

Oda is trying to made Hody as realistic as possible, tho as a fictional character he may lack the appeal and compelling point but still Oda did a good job in portraying what racism all about.

jal90 said:
Hating Usopp, Nami or Vivi. That's some fighting talk >:(!


I get that point and also @ToG25thBaam's. The problem to me is that he was too... transient to be a villain that gets so much focus. I get the point at making an extremist character but I'm not sure that this attempt at realism actually sits well with the mood of the show, specially with the usual trend of villains who have more elaborate plans and are more consistant with their own agenda. Remember that Hody wanted his race to wipe the humans and ended up trying to wipe his race, all in the same day in the time span of a few hours. He was uninteresting because he was more of an idea put in a character than a character himself, at some point he was just there to antagonize everything we could consider remotely "good" or morally redeemable in that arc. I felt that his emptiness was used as an excuse for that, and it didn't sound at all sincere to me.

jal90 said:
Hating Usopp, Nami or Vivi. That's some fighting talk >:(!

BartolomeoOP said:
Anyone who isn't sanji and bartolomeo cause they are GOAT

tsudecimo said:

Why do you like Vivi? she is very bland and forgettable. Did nothing but got saved by her enemies.

jal90 said:

Are you seriously measuring the weight of a character by the amount of ass they kick? Come on tsud.

Vivi unveiled the whole structure of the Baroque Works organization. Leave her out of the equation and you have Crocodile taking down Alabasta before Cobra notices. She also takes credit for basically stopping the war, and she was one of the major factors who avoided a disaster in Alubarna.

The only thing she didn't do in the end was defeating Crocodile. And even in that she had a role.

But leaving that talk about usefulness aside, the series has a big enough focus on Vivi's psychological processes to simply dismiss her as a bland and forgettable character; remember her actions in Drum, the retrospective view of Dalton, her choice about Nami's state. Her gradual increase of confidence with the Straw Hats, her relationship with Nami and later with Luffy. Her moment of realization in the desert of Alabasta. And all of that by displaying some of the strongest willpower levels in the series and a quite unusual ability to stomach stuff and make rational decisions in emotionally compromising situations.

Vivi is a character who happens to be very well-treated by Oda, and got relatively big amounts of continuous emotional and narrative focus to put her in context and develop her situation. If you call her bland and forgettable you can call the entirety of the One Piece characters bland and forgettable for that matter, because it's difficult to find one Oda has put more effort on.

tsudecimo said:

I didn't mean battle wise lol, otherwise I would have question ussop and Nami as well.

I'm also not talking about usefulness. Just relevancy and involvement in the story, while being interesting. Only thing I remember from her is being in baroque works, somehow became friends with the crew, cried a couple of times about her country, and then the crew saved Alabasta. Basically the same as Nami while not being as interesting as Nami or integral.

Don't really see it unless she appeared again after marineford or something, which I didn't read. Don't see how she had more emotional focus than any other character with a sad past, and her past wasn't even that sad as I don't remember it like I remember Nami's. If she wasn't there the crew wouldn't encounter Alabasta but I don't think that necessarily means she had a strong narrative focus.

I can barely remember any traits of her personality. She just seems like a normal good person. And I don't think she has any chemistry with other characters. Actually I remember her bird more than her, hence why I described her as bland and forgettable.

Valaskjalf said:
Usopp

Sanji

Brook

useless characters and very annoying, they stopped mattering 500 episodes ago. Wish the author knew what to do with them, but he doesn't.

tsudecimo said:


I'm also not talking about usefulness. Just relevancy and involvement in the story, while being interesting. Only thing I remember from her is being in baroque works, somehow became friends with the crew, cried a couple of times about her country, and then the crew saved Alabasta. Basically the same as Nami while not being as interesting as Nami or integral.

Dahaka_ said:
Jack can't die know, because we need to get Inu&Neko vs Jack

It just needs to happen. I'll cry if it doesn't

Anyway:

1) Wanze

that's all

oscar8784 said:
Usopp - nami - Brook - Sabo

Evarinya said:
One piece is mostly full of wacky and very interesting characters. Most of them are loveable. Others make really cool villains. But of course there are some who, unfortunately, do not belong to either category. So which are the top three characters that you feel should be put to rest already?

This is my list:
1) Spandam: The less said of him the better. In Enies Lobby, he made me appreciate the supercool villain Rob Lucci all the more. Really loved Usopp, franky and Robin's handiwork on him too. But I'd hoped that we'd seen the last of him. and BAM! He's back at the end of Dressrosa.

Kaimon said:
No haterino on Usopp, please, he is objectively best Straw Hat.

Ciara said:


I couldn't say it better, maybe save for calling Sabo a consolation prize after Ace. I hope the manga stays away from him for the next 200 chapters, his whole character is taken entirely from another (bad-written) manga.

ashfrliebert said:
Sabo has no development, but aside from the mera mera fruit I don't understand how you can make the argument Sabo is like Ace at all. He is barely a character, let's be honest.

jal90 said:

Certainly, he is a walking reminder of Ace however and that was my take, that his most defining traits are that he has been reproducing the position Ace had when he was introduced in the story. So far he's been basically a source of parallelisms that Oda obviously wants us to notice.

pakyu said:

Brook - i want him dead for real