| Oh, Emiya, that pun right there sure is punny. |
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Illyricus said: Oh, Emiya, that pun right there sure is punny. It's heartening that you're taking this so well~ |
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| As with any other medium, I can love characters that are horrible people like Dio, Gendo Ikari, Tatsumi, Bill Cipher the Master, GLaDOS, HK-47, etc. |
| I would hate Rick if he was an actual person. |
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| The characters I usually like in animes are usually those who are like that. From the arrogant to the downright weird. They're simply more interesting and I like the life they add to an anime... though I'd never even consider liking admiring talking approaching looking at them if they were actual people. |
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| Liking a character in the context of the narrative or liking them as a character/person are not necessarily overlapping. I've enjoyed a lot of characters that I wouldn't call likable, because they were interesting or did a great job within the narrative. |
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Pullman said: Liking a character in the context of the narrative or liking them as a character/person are not necessarily overlapping. I've enjoyed a lot of characters that I wouldn't call likable, because they were interesting or did a great job within the narrative. This. I don't understand why so many people mix the writing/quality of a character with his personality. Yeah, Griffith is one of the best villain ever written. No, I don't "like" him. |
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| I'm not sure I would find Yuno as entertaining if she was coming after me... |
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| He's not my favorite, but a lot of people love Izaya Orihara and he's an idiot ^also tru |
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On_the_Lam said: The entire cast of Neon Genesis Evangelion. Same than with Griffith, most people don't LIKE the characters, they just admit that they're well written. Nobody likes Asuka. |
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Jaarin said: I think its called "fictive pass asymmetry", basically we are inclined to give a pass on most morally ambiguous actions(and even some unambiguous) so long as we accept it as being either a fictional situation or one that is detached from our own immediate/habitual circumstances. In the wider context I always kinda felt it wasn't so much the character that I like per se, but rather the character in a particular scenario... Its also because emphathising with a character is not the same as sympathising... I wonder if that 'fictive pass asymmetry' causes us to be more gentle with horrible people we only hear about in the news. |
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TheBrainintheJar said: I wonder if that 'fictive pass asymmetry' causes us to be more gentle with horrible people we only hear about in the news. Possibly, the study only dealt primarily with fictional scenarios when compared with their real life counter part (rather than real life scenarios in of themselves) and drew a line between moral "harm" and "moral" purity...we usually give a pass to moral harm (i.e. physical violence) but not purity (i.e. incest) to a rather remarkable degree (89% had no problem with fictional harm versus 12% for impurity, if I recall--the study is at viva stage). Kinda makes Hisoka an interesting example because he transgresses both moral harm and moral purity. Though this is not to ignore cultural narrative idioms --i.e. how fictional narratives emerge from cultural nuances...their cultural language-- that might make use of the transgression for other purposes. I.e. Hisoka's more paedophillic tendencies are usually played off of Gon's innocence for a possible humorous effect...or perhaps not. The idiom in this case following a kind of, but not literal,"tsukkomi" convention. Either way, based on the study we are likely to condone or even enjoy Hisokas extremely sadistic and violent behaviour, but less likely (but necessarily always) condemn him for his more erm...unsavoury(?) actions (keeping in mind said actions are often implicity hinted at rather than explicitly revealed). This in addition to other qualities of the character such as; their placement within the narrative, as well as other contributing conventions and ideologies etc. |
| Fuhrer Bradley is so awesome yet would be so hated in real life I bet a lot of people would RESPECT bradley but still hate him |
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| I think it is also worth acknowledging that people have different senses of what is right and wrong. This can mean while some people would consider a character evil, others would see them as a hero. I would approve of Light Yagami and Lelouch's actions in real life, but other people would consider them evil. It would not be outlandish even to find a character who is the villain in a story to be a hero in your eyes. Right and wrong is very subjective. |
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Shonen-King said: I think it is also worth acknowledging that people have different senses of what is right and wrong. This can mean while some people would consider a character evil, others would see them as a hero. I would approve of Light Yagami and Lelouch's actions in real life, but other people would consider them evil. It would not be outlandish even to find a character who is the villain in a story to be a hero in your eyes. Right and wrong is very subjective. This turned philosophical real fast... |
aqing0601 said: Shonen-King said: I think it is also worth acknowledging that people have different senses of what is right and wrong. This can mean while some people would consider a character evil, others would see them as a hero. I would approve of Light Yagami and Lelouch's actions in real life, but other people would consider them evil. It would not be outlandish even to find a character who is the villain in a story to be a hero in your eyes. Right and wrong is very subjective. This turned philosophical real fast... It is relevant to the conversation though. |
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| Natsu wouldn't be liked very much, as he constantly gets into fights and has no problem vandalising other people's property. Also Kagari from Black★Rock Shooter, which is one of my favourite anime characters, I couldn't see as a very pleasant girl to be with. |
| I've always liked Alucard, but the thought of encountering him in a dark alley really scares me. |
Jaarin said: TheBrainintheJar said: I wonder if that 'fictive pass asymmetry' causes us to be more gentle with horrible people we only hear about in the news. Possibly, the study only dealt primarily with fictional scenarios when compared with their real life counter part (rather than real life scenarios in of themselves) and drew a line between moral "harm" and "moral" purity...we usually give a pass to moral harm (i.e. physical violence) but not purity (i.e. incest) to a rather remarkable degree (89% had no problem with fictional harm versus 12% for impurity, if I recall--the study is at viva stage). Kinda makes Hisoka an interesting example because he transgresses both moral harm and moral purity. Though this is not to ignore cultural narrative idioms --i.e. how fictional narratives emerge from cultural nuances...their cultural language-- that might make use of the transgression for other purposes. I.e. Hisoka's more paedophillic tendencies are usually played off of Gon's innocence for a possible humorous effect...or perhaps not. The idiom in this case following a kind of, but not literal,"tsukkomi" convention. Either way, based on the study we are likely to condone or even enjoy Hisokas extremely sadistic and violent behaviour, but less likely (but necessarily always) condemn him for his more erm...unsavoury(?) actions (keeping in mind said actions are often implicity hinted at rather than explicitly revealed). This in addition to other qualities of the character such as; their placement within the narrative, as well as other contributing conventions and ideologies etc. I'm not shocked to hear about the whole 'purity' thing. I know people are more repulsed by women having a lot of sex than rape. |
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mouvite said: Light is my absolutely favourite character, but if I met someone like this in the real life I would definitely stay away. makes me cautious of who I give out my name to. XD I agree with you. |
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CapitalistGod said: Also, do you believe that if someone like this kind of characters.... it reflects something off their real life? I'll stick with answering this portion for now in the best way I can. I think that it's fair to say, yes, it does reflect things from our day to day lives. It would be inappropriate for me to say that you like a character like this because you yourself wish to have a personality more like hers. The human mind is a complex matter that very few people ( if any ) truly understand. |
| if they existed in real life, i'd be one of thier kind, so yeah fun. we could try killin each other but,,,,, to much collateral damage? |
| Kumagawa Misogi and Kaiki Deishu would be really horrible as real people but they're awesome in their anime |
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| Here's a quick test to put this whole thing to rest: |
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Well, I don't feel like a fucked up person for liking Sal from Wadanohara and loving Fukami from the same game. You know, the guy who and the guy who Not to mention my love for the character from the same games, Orca, who I don't think it's bad to like characters like this.  |
And what if I did both along with fawning over how great a person Shinji was? |
| I laughed a bit. That means I'm worse than Lighto-kun? Btw: Light did nothing wrong. |
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Hmm, then you're a good person. Liking based Shinji = +1k points in goodness. Yup, you're an evil murderer on the loose waiting to destroy the world ^_^ |
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I nominate this asshole: #30 charac |
| You've done nothing but spout meaningless prattle. - Yukino Yukinoshita. |
| Oh, boy... ................................................................... |
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CapitalistGod said: Have you ever liked one of this kinds of characters? Or do you just have an aversion to them automatically? Also, do you believe that if someone like this kind of characters.... it reflects something off their real life? Well I mean...their fictional characters in a story...so..of course |
| ゴロゴロゴロ ゴロゴロゴロ ゴロゴロゴロ ゴロゴロゴロ ゴゴゴゴゴゴ ゴゴゴゴゴゴ ゴゴゴゴゴゴ |
| If I would have the opportunity, I would like to get stranded on a remote island with esdeath, yuno, palm, flay allstar, nakiri erina, and iwakura lain's mom! :D I bet I'll never get bored on that island. |
| Fukuyama from Girl's Bravo, a perv that somehow gets away with mild rape/extreme sexual harrasment. |
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