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May 7, 2016 9:51 PM

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beta does not need ps plus
It doesn't? But its multiplayer.
That's not how ps plus works. You would still need gold on xbox.
Beta does not require ps plus, but the full game will.

May 7, 2016 9:56 PM

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Aww man. Wish I would've know that sooner. Well, at least I get two days with it.
May 8, 2016 6:20 AM

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Stark700 said:
Tried Tracer today. Not bad but the low HP turns me off without support.
You gotta blink in and out, I find its really hard for people to hit me if I effectively use it. Also the recall time ability is broken af.
May 8, 2016 7:01 AM

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So much overwatch....

So much overwatch

I cant escape send help.
May 8, 2016 10:51 AM
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Is it me or is Mcree a bad class? His slide is so bad, the range of his stun grenade is bad and he's only good for 1v1 fights, if someone from the other team decides to join the fight, ya fucked.
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May 8, 2016 11:17 AM

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Unknown- said:
Is it me or is Mcree a bad class? His slide is so bad, the range of his stun grenade is bad and he's only good for 1v1 fights, if someone from the other team decides to join the fight, ya fucked.
I find him more of a duelist, and believe he is supposed to be playing like one. I don't think he is bad, rather he is just more reliant on going 1v1 against someone compared to some of the other fighters.
May 8, 2016 12:51 PM

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Unknown- said:
Is it me or is Mcree a bad class? His slide is so bad, the range of his stun grenade is bad and he's only good for 1v1 fights, if someone from the other team decides to join the fight, ya fucked.
He's actually really good. His flashbang makes it so that he can insta kill any class in the game 1v1. The only problem is finding a chance to 1v1 someone.
May 8, 2016 3:11 PM

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Games ass fuck a reinhardt :C
May 8, 2016 5:41 PM

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As Reinhardt I charged an enemy Mcree and their was no wall so we just went off the map. Pretty awesome moment but of course Bastion gets POTG.
May 8, 2016 6:10 PM

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Game definitely has some balancing issues, but it's only in beta so that's to be expected. Otherwise it's fairly entertaining for a FPS.
The auto-aim abilities annoy me to no end. Especially when I'm playing a class that relies on mobility / skill.
May 8, 2016 6:35 PM

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I don't want them to add kill counts or anything...

Despite that, I really wish I got more votes for shit. I'm often carrying the payload and 0 love goes my way.

0 love may go Mei's way any day anyway.
May 8, 2016 6:44 PM

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Thrashinuva said:
I don't want them to add kill counts or anything...

Despite that, I really wish I got more votes for shit. I'm often carrying the payload and 0 love goes my way.

0 love may go Mei's way any day anyway.
Probably because everybody besides Mei players hate her guts. There's people all over the place screaming about how OP she is and how much she needs nerfs. It's beautiful.

May 8, 2016 6:52 PM

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So basically.

Torbjorn is OP.
Bastion is OP.
Tracer is OP.
Mei is OP.
Reaper is OP.
Hanzo is OP.
Genji is OP.

I'm nominating Pharah to be OP because she easily OP's Mei.
Junkrat also beats out Mei so he's OP.
Soldier: 76 can kill Mei in an instant. He's OP.
Mccree can flashbang/kill Mei. He's OP.
Reinhardt is immune to ice. He's OP.
Widowmaker can snipe the shit out of her. She's OP.


Over half the cast is OP.

Mercy, Zenyatta, Symmetra, and Lucio, just add to Mei's OP nature.

Roadhog can basically spar toe to toe with Mei. He's OP.

Zarya, D.Va, and Winston obviously need buffs.

18/21 characters are either OP or make the other characters even more OP.

I forgot Zarya can put a shield on Mei. Winston can put a shield around Mei. D.Va can destroy bullets.

OP.
May 8, 2016 6:56 PM

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Pretty much, while there are SOME balance issues, it's mainly players needing to learn how to counter and git gud essentially.
May 8, 2016 7:29 PM

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Pretty much, while there are SOME balance issues, it's mainly players needing to learn how to counter and git gud essentially.

Also are we sarcastically referring to trump instead of China's great wall?
May 8, 2016 8:13 PM

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the game is fun but i wish it wasnt 40 bucks.

i also wish people would play something other than dps

May 8, 2016 9:04 PM

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Well I finally got complimented as Mei after I got two potg's.
May 9, 2016 1:43 AM

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strange things happen in quick matches



When playing a suicide ultimate run mei

"I'll freeze the enemies, kill the sniper"

"No ult the team, stop the payload and I myself will carry you to the end screen"

"Am I awaited?"

"You will get play of the game, shiny and chrome"

*Cries tears of glorious battle charges into the enemy team*

*Immediately gets sniped*

MVP: "Mediocre!"
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May 9, 2016 5:36 AM
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Thrashinuva said:
So basically.

Torbjorn is OP.
Bastion is OP.
Tracer is OP.
Mei is OP.
Reaper is OP.
Hanzo is OP.
Genji is OP.


Mei only has the advantage at close ranger making a her a nightmare for tanks with poor range. Any offensive class with a good aim can sort her out.

Tracer is alright, I've been one hit killed by Hanzo before so she's very squishy, she's just like the scout from TF2.

Hanzo and Genji require a whole heap of skill to play, if you get up close and personal with Hanzo, he will have a hard time. His ult s is so bad when you do it against experienced players. It's like a slow kamehameha wave.

lol Bastion all he can do his camp, if you can nuke him good with Phara rip
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May 9, 2016 8:20 AM

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Major123 said:
Stark700 said:
Tried Tracer today. Not bad but the low HP turns me off without support.
You gotta blink in and out, I find its really hard for people to hit me if I effectively use it. Also the recall time ability is broken af.

^ You have to have muscle memory to play Tracer and game knowledge to know how fast you're going to die and for all the people that one shot her you have to have a general idea of when the average player is going to flick and shoot or stun you, so you can blink that flick.
May 9, 2016 12:14 PM

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@Spooks


I AM THE SCALES OF JUSTICE

CONDUCTOR OF THE CHOIR OF DEATH

SING SISTER MEI

SING SISTER MERCY

SING SING SINNNNNG
May 9, 2016 7:58 PM

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95PercentCaim said:
@Spooks


I AM THE SCALES OF JUSTICE

CONDUCTOR OF THE CHOIR OF DEATH

SING SISTER MEI

SING SISTER MERCY

SING SING SINNNNNG
Okay she is legit OP, the cooldown on her jetpack and the AOE of her rockets is BULLLLSHITTTTTTTTTT
May 9, 2016 9:36 PM

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Played 9 hours and already bored somewhat. Can't really defend a $40 price tag. Hell, Titanfall gave me 60 hours before I became bored, and I got that for $25 from a key site.

Natural Selection 2 is still my gold standard for multiplayer-only shooters. 400 hours for $22 and I never got bored before the developers kind of ruined the game.

Overwatch is too shallow for me.
May 10, 2016 12:03 AM

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Major123 said:
95PercentCaim said:
@Spooks


I AM THE SCALES OF JUSTICE

CONDUCTOR OF THE CHOIR OF DEATH

SING SISTER MEI

SING SISTER MERCY

SING SING SINNNNNG
Okay she is legit OP, the cooldown on her jetpack and the AOE of her rockets is BULLLLSHITTTTTTTTTT
She's really strong but I wouldn't say she's OP. Her quirk is sacrificing ground cover for vision, so you need to punish that by shooting her down like a duck. Her high counters are McCree, Hanzo, Soldier 76, and Widowmaker. Medium counters are Roadhog, Mei, and Lucio.
May 10, 2016 5:19 AM
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It got boring after an hour think i had more fun with battleborn and not all gods are op they are actually pretty balanced the main problem i have are the maps at one point iforgot the mission name but we escorting something and once it ot passed a gate it was impossible to continue to escort it to the checkpoint because we coudlnt reach i played as every single god but nothing worked so they realy need to do something about it
May 10, 2016 6:02 AM

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95PercentCaim said:
Major123 said:
Okay she is legit OP, the cooldown on her jetpack and the AOE of her rockets is BULLLLSHITTTTTTTTTT
She's really strong but I wouldn't say she's OP. Her quirk is sacrificing ground cover for vision, so you need to punish that by shooting her down like a duck. Her high counters are McCree, Hanzo, Soldier 76, and Widowmaker. Medium counters are Roadhog, Mei, and Lucio.
I think Soldier 76 can beat just about anyone, he's really easy to play and he plays with a COD style so people are already used to him.
May 10, 2016 6:36 AM

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I enjoyed it but right now it doesn't offer me enough for full retail its like TF2 would be good if I can get it for like £10 beyond that theres plenty of other much cheaper games that offer more right now.

Shame because before the beta i was already in to buy it lol
May 10, 2016 8:05 AM

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Is there a plan to make a scoreboard or something? I find the achievements rather underwhelming especially the loot boxes.
May 10, 2016 12:14 PM
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Spooks said:
TF2 would be good if I can get it for like £10 beyond that theres plenty of other much cheaper games that offer more right now.


I know how you feel. Lol at the idea of buying TF2 for £40...Overwatch needs to develop a little more for me to pay that much.
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May 10, 2016 7:59 PM

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Red_Tuesday said:
Played 9 hours and already bored somewhat. Can't really defend a $40 price tag. Hell, Titanfall gave me 60 hours before I became bored, and I got that for $25 from a key site.

Natural Selection 2 is still my gold standard for multiplayer-only shooters. 400 hours for $22 and I never got bored before the developers kind of ruined the game.

Overwatch is too shallow for me.
'Shallow', come on man you have to admit their is a lot of depth here.
May 10, 2016 8:25 PM

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95PercentCaim said:
Medium counters are Mei

I can't buy that at all. The best I can do to her is put a wall in front of her to hope she kills herself, and only if she's somewhere close to the ground.

Pharah is the legit hardest counter to Mei. Even if Mei catches her off guard Pharah can just jet jump out of her ice spray. Only if she's off cooldown or Mei gets lucky with an icicle can Mei ever hope to kill her.
May 10, 2016 10:46 PM

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Thrashinuva said:
95PercentCaim said:
Medium counters are Mei

I can't buy that at all. The best I can do to her is put a wall in front of her to hope she kills herself, and only if she's somewhere close to the ground.

Pharah is the legit hardest counter to Mei. Even if Mei catches her off guard Pharah can just jet jump out of her ice spray. Only if she's off cooldown or Mei gets lucky with an icicle can Mei ever hope to kill her.
Killing Pharah isn't Mei's specialty since Pharah can jump over Mei's ice wall, spray, and ult. But Mei is pretty good at annoying Pharahs. Her cryofreeze is as long as Pharah's ult so baiting it out is good. Your icewall, if placed right, can save an entire team from a Pharah ult too. If Pharah doesn't see you, you can snipe her down with the long-ranged blaster as well. Mei's not exactly a good counter but her abilities are good with the hell out of Pharah.
May 11, 2016 2:50 AM

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Does anyone here play Hanzo? I find him rather difficult to play...
May 11, 2016 6:07 AM

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Major123 said:
'Shallow', come on man you have to admit their is a lot of depth here.


Seems more like rock paper sizzors to me. I liked it but I still prefer other titles. Overwatch suffers from RPS rock paper siz, you play who counters rather than who you want through the match. You encounter a rock you switch to paper so on. Maybe some people like that but for a game based all on finding a character you love its style goes against that forcing you to switch to fill the roll most needed rather than the roll you want.

You don't really get to practice and win a round solely playing the character you want to perfect unless you have a good balanced team you have to switch up based on the demands of the match. Maybe you don't want to play a support but nobody else wants to so you're stuck 75% of the game playing backup instead of the role or character you're better at because demands of the balance outweights been able to just play the character you want.

Its not impossible but you start to feel selfish sticking to your favorite character when theres a gap in your team that nobody wants to fill and you're losing.
May 11, 2016 7:34 AM

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Spooks said:
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'Shallow', come on man you have to admit their is a lot of depth here.


Seems more like rock paper sizzors to me. I liked it but I still prefer other titles. Overwatch suffers from RPS rock paper siz, you play who counters rather than who you want through the match. You encounter a rock you switch to paper so on. Maybe some people like that but for a game based all on finding a character you love its style goes against that forcing you to switch to fill the roll most needed rather than the roll you want.

You don't really get to practice and win a round solely playing the character you want to perfect unless you have a good balanced team you have to switch up based on the demands of the match. Maybe you don't want to play a support but nobody else wants to so you're stuck 75% of the game playing backup instead of the role or character you're better at because demands of the balance outweights been able to just play the character you want.

Its not impossible but you start to feel selfish sticking to your favorite character when theres a gap in your team that nobody wants to fill and you're losing.
I was mainly talking about the characters here, but I personally don't have a problem with filling roles because the supports/tanks are actually fun to play in this game.
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Spooks said:
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'Shallow', come on man you have to admit their is a lot of depth here.


Seems more like rock paper sizzors to me. I liked it but I still prefer other titles. Overwatch suffers from RPS rock paper siz, you play who counters rather than who you want through the match. You encounter a rock you switch to paper so on. Maybe some people like that but for a game based all on finding a character you love its style goes against that forcing you to switch to fill the roll most needed rather than the roll you want.

You don't really get to practice and win a round solely playing the character you want to perfect unless you have a good balanced team you have to switch up based on the demands of the match. Maybe you don't want to play a support but nobody else wants to so you're stuck 75% of the game playing backup instead of the role or character you're better at because demands of the balance outweights been able to just play the character you want.

Its not impossible but you start to feel selfish sticking to your favorite character when theres a gap in your team that nobody wants to fill and you're losing.

I don't think this is true.

I think this is what everyone else thinks is true.

Maybe it's because I play Mei and she can basically do everything, but I don't feel like I ever need to switch. There are direct counters to Mei like Pharah, but she doesn't generally cause me a huge problem on her own. If she's out and about I focus on the rest of the enemy, unless they're also Pharah... But a team of Pharah has never happened with me. If it ever does I intend to have practiced how to fight her with whatever means necessary.

In reality a lot of other FPS games use the same system.

Enemy brought a shotgun? Bring grenades. Enemy brought grenades? Bring a sniper rifle. Enemy brought a sniper rifle? Bring an assault rifle.

If you're looking for circles, they're present in basically everything. In my opinion, this is better than everyone playing "Rock", in a game of "Rock". In Overwatch there isn't only 3 options, or 5, or 9, but 21 and counting. One hero can stand up to a majority of the cast and so countering other peoples picks isn't so easy when considering teams of 6, which means that you are harder to counter just by default. It isn't merely a circle, but a web of completely different branching paths.

McCree kills Mei easy, but only if he uses his flashbang on her, otherwise McCree is taken out easy by Mei, unless of course an ally is around to help defend you, in which case Mei can't kill you at all. It isn't just a matter of who has the right gun.
May 11, 2016 1:23 PM

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Stark700 said:
Does anyone here play Hanzo? I find him rather difficult to play...
Spam arrows, use ult, get the play of the game.

May 11, 2016 3:47 PM

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Should we turn this thread into Overwatch general or just make another one when the game releases?

Also is Mei fat, thick, or just wearing big clothing?

May 11, 2016 5:21 PM

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95PercentCaim said:
Should we turn this thread into Overwatch general or just make another one when the game releases?

Also is Mei fat, thick, or just wearing big clothing?



I think she's thick and wearing big clothing.

A new thread on launch would probably be good.
May 11, 2016 5:39 PM

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Thrashinuva said:
Spooks said:


Seems more like rock paper sizzors to me. I liked it but I still prefer other titles. Overwatch suffers from RPS rock paper siz, you play who counters rather than who you want through the match. You encounter a rock you switch to paper so on. Maybe some people like that but for a game based all on finding a character you love its style goes against that forcing you to switch to fill the roll most needed rather than the roll you want.

You don't really get to practice and win a round solely playing the character you want to perfect unless you have a good balanced team you have to switch up based on the demands of the match. Maybe you don't want to play a support but nobody else wants to so you're stuck 75% of the game playing backup instead of the role or character you're better at because demands of the balance outweights been able to just play the character you want.

Its not impossible but you start to feel selfish sticking to your favorite character when theres a gap in your team that nobody wants to fill and you're losing.


McCree kills Mei easy, but only if he uses his flashbang on her, otherwise McCree is taken out easy by Mei, unless of course an ally is around to help defend you, in which case Mei can't kill you at all. It isn't just a matter of who has the right gun.

McCree doesn't even need his flashbang at close range. He just fans the hammer and everything that's not a tank dies. Flashbang just makes it a bit easier, even more so since the stun duration was increased for some reason.
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McCree doesn't even need his flashbang at close range. He just fans the hammer and everything that's not a tank dies. Flashbang just makes it a bit easier, even more so since the stun duration was increased for some reason.

If they reverted the delay they put on his reload after fanning, I'd be fine with a revert on the stun duration. That iteration of McCree was the cleanest.
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I hope they make the character selection for opponents in AI modes more varied. I can see myself playing this mode a lot in order to unwind and stuff, but if they don't change it so that you won't fight anyone but Roadhog, S:76, Reaps, Zarya and Zenyatta it would be even more repetitive than fighting AIs needs to be.
May 11, 2016 7:52 PM

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ExTamplier said:
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Does anyone here play Hanzo? I find him rather difficult to play...
Spam arrows, use ult, get the play of the game.
He gets play of the game because of his ult but using him and his abilities will take some practice. For me I pick Widowmaker over him because his arrows drop down a bit the farther he is away from someone making it harder to hit people.
May 12, 2016 2:41 AM
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The beta was super fun to play! Takes me back to my old Quake 3 days setting up a LAN system in my highschool computer class.
May 12, 2016 7:08 AM

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Yeah the beta was amazing, I think it might have convinced me to buy it. And that's rare for me because I usually don't buy games like overwatch. But after buying a few other games I'll probably start saving up for it.
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Beta was amazing. Probably going to buy it and I don't buy games like Overwatch as I think it's not worth it, but Overwatch was amazing. Was pretty happy when I found out open beta was extended to the 10th (at least for me it was).
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Now that the beta has ended, I can't be bothered to play any other games. Not even Smite and I played that a lot recently.
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