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EDIT: I decided to alter the thread to refer to all Linux distros. :)

Anyone upgrade to the latest LTS for Ubuntu yet? I'm upgrading right now, and already feel like I am going to love it. The update that comes before the upgrade sees an update to LibreOffice and damn is it sexy!

Some things worth discussing is that the upgrade will see a jump from ustart to systemd and that Canonical is still getting heat for supposedly breaking the law by shipping OpenZFS in 16.04.

Do post if you are a Linux lover or are just starting to play around in Linux, have complaints etc etc. :)

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https://wiki.ubuntu.com/XenialXerus/ReleaseNotes
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I'm still running on Ubuntu 15.10 so I'll probably reinstall today :3
Been looking forward to this release, that snap application format looks pretty sweet!
 
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I'm still running on Ubuntu 15.10 so I'll probably reinstall today :3
Been looking forward to this release, that snap application format looks pretty sweet!


Cool! Come by if you can when you are done and share what you think. :)

Yes, Snap does look pretty sweet but I am disappointed to see that Brasero was removed. I really loved having that on a fresh install. :(

Oh, and a warning to all who wish to upgrade/install:



Boot, installation and post-install

Installing Xen host in UEFI mode


It is currently impossible to boot a Xen hypervisor from grub in UEFI mode. However the package does not detect this and will set the default boot to Xen mode. So for any machine in UEFI mode, do not install the Xen hypervisor (or enable legacy mode first). Please see this bug report for more information.

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Jelmazmo said:
Gator said:
I'm still running on Ubuntu 15.10 so I'll probably reinstall today :3
Been looking forward to this release, that snap application format looks pretty sweet!


Cool! Come by if you can when you are done and share what you think. :)

Yes, Snap does look pretty sweet but I am disappointed to see that Brasero was removed. I really loved having that on a fresh install. :(

Oh, and a warning to all who wish to upgrade/install:



Boot, installation and post-install

Installing Xen host in UEFI mode


It is currently impossible to boot a Xen hypervisor from grub in UEFI mode. However the package does not detect this and will set the default boot to Xen mode. So for any machine in UEFI mode, do not install the Xen hypervisor (or enable legacy mode first). Please see this bug report for more information.

Sure, if I get around doing the upgrad today I'll report tomorrow ;)

I don't even have a CD drive anymore so the removel of Brasero doesn't really concern me ^^

Luckily my mainbard let me disable UEFI mode so I have no problems there :3
 
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Just a quick note
https://www.wilderssecurity.com/threads/ubuntu-lts-many-vulnerabilities-despite-long-term-support.385386/

You get better security support with Debian especially with stable release. And contrary to popular belief its not that hard to install Debian. Just read up on the documentation to get non free drivers working.
 
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Upgrade failed. Unity seemed to have broke so I had to reinstall completely. It is finished now, and looks the same mostly, so we don't have to hear people rage quit on adjusting to yet another new environment. lol

Gator said:
Jelmazmo said:


Cool! Come by if you can when you are done and share what you think. :)

Yes, Snap does look pretty sweet but I am disappointed to see that Brasero was removed. I really loved having that on a fresh install. :(

Oh, and a warning to all who wish to upgrade/install:



Boot, installation and post-install

Installing Xen host in UEFI mode


It is currently impossible to boot a Xen hypervisor from grub in UEFI mode. However the package does not detect this and will set the default boot to Xen mode. So for any machine in UEFI mode, do not install the Xen hypervisor (or enable legacy mode first). Please see this bug report for more information.

Sure, if I get around doing the upgrad today I'll report tomorrow ;)

I don't even have a CD drive anymore so the removel of Brasero doesn't really concern me ^^

Luckily my mainbard let me disable UEFI mode so I have no problems there :3


Neat! Oh, make sure you copy everything you need. This release is hella buggy. :(

And usually I don't use Brasero/CD drive either, but a lot of my laptops just won't accept my LiveUSBs. They are all Acers, so it might have something to do with it. lol

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Just a quick note
https://www.wilderssecurity.com/threads/ubuntu-lts-many-vulnerabilities-despite-long-term-support.385386/

You get better security support with Debian especially with stable release. And contrary to popular belief its not that hard to install Debian. Just read up on the documentation to get non free drivers working.


I use Ubuntu because I like it, so not going with Debian isn't about being hard or whatnot. I consider installing Arch a lot harder and I managed that. However, installing Debian to a "noob" is hard. THey barely manage to successfully install Ubuntu, which is extremely easy, so they will want to avoid Debian etc. But yea, Debian has better security but I doubt Ubuntu will let their security risks stay around for any longer. And if I remember correctly, most of the other stuff has always been maintained by the community.

If the bugs persist though a lot of people will just abandon the release.

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I'm still using Ubuntu 14.04 on my laptop (I installed the Xubuntu variant however, which uses the Xfce Desktop environment).

Honestly, I prefer Debian right now (Debian jesse is installed on my desktop PC) as it has been less buggy for me. I have only been using GNU/Linux for a few months though.

And I'm wanting to wait for a community consensus on whether the 16.04 update is good or not before jumping on it.

Jelmazmo said:

I use Ubuntu because I like it, so not going with Debian isn't about being hard or whatnot. I consider installing Arch a lot harder and I managed that. However, installing Debian to a "noob" is hard. THey barely manage to successfully install Ubuntu, which is extremely easy, so they will want to avoid Debian etc.


eh, installing Arch is actually not very hard, I as a newcomer to Linux managed to install it on a VM, without much trouble. The unstable-as-hell rolling release is what makes Arch hard to use. It is very much a hobbyist's distro for people who actively enjoy having their config files and such broken and having to compile packages manually.
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I'm using 14.04 on my laptop, and my phone is 15.10 OTA 10. Probably gonna pick up a System76 pc at some point in the near future with 16.04 and experiment with music recording in linux. Always loved ubuntu, and now it's finally at a point where I can potentially switch fully.
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Soooo I re-installed Ubuntu 16.04 yesterday and I'm quite statisfied with it so far. Everything runs smoothly, the only error I got was when I isntalled openjdk-9-jdk, which is a beta version so it's understandable xD

Found nothing so far though to get too excited about, everything remains the same maybe a bit faster than before. :3
 
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@Lobinde

That's a good idea. In a few months the bugs should be ironed out. And by 16.04.1 they expect the AMD driver support to be "back" (no longer just open source).

@Vitne-Eveille

By then 16.04 should be ironed out. :)

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Soooo I re-installed Ubuntu 16.04 yesterday and I'm quite statisfied with it so far. Everything runs smoothly, the only error I got was when I isntalled openjdk-9-jdk, which is a beta version so it's understandable xD

Found nothing so far though to get too excited about, everything remains the same maybe a bit faster than before. :3


So you haven't encountered any bugs yet? And yea, it only feels like it runs a bit faster. Well, better performance is always nice I guess. :)

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So you haven't encountered any bugs yet? And yea, it only feels like it runs a bit faster. Well, better performance is always nice I guess. :)

Nope, no Ubuntu-specific bugs so far, pretty nice :3
 
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Gator said:
Jelmazmo said:
So you haven't encountered any bugs yet? And yea, it only feels like it runs a bit faster. Well, better performance is always nice I guess. :)

Nope, no Ubuntu-specific bugs so far, pretty nice :3


That's incredible! I have only really seen one type of bug so far, that comes and goes at the log in screen. Nice to know not everyone is having problems with Xenial.

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I think I've actually decided to just make the jump on my current Windows desktop. It's an ASUS, which seems to be generally well-supported in Ubuntu.

I may just have Ubuntu Studio 16.04 and no Windows soon. Exciting :D

I always have my original Win8 install disc if all goes south.
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Vitne-Eveille said:
I think I've actually decided to just make the jump on my current Windows desktop. It's an ASUS, which seems to be generally well-supported in Ubuntu.

I may just have Ubuntu Studio 16.04 and no Windows soon. Exciting :D

I always have my original Win8 install disc if all goes south.


The jump to Linux is always an experience to have.

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Vitne-Eveille said:
I think I've actually decided to just make the jump on my current Windows desktop. It's an ASUS, which seems to be generally well-supported in Ubuntu.

I may just have Ubuntu Studio 16.04 and no Windows soon. Exciting :D

I always have my original Win8 install disc if all goes south.


You could always dual boot if you don't want to commit to losing your windows OS as a lifeline of sorts. However if you want to do this you will have to disable secure boot on your motherboard's uefi settings if it is a uefi (not BIOS, you can usually find this out by googling the name of your motherboard) setup, and disable fast boot on your windows settings if you are using windows 8 and up. If you want to manually partition for dual boots you will also have to shrink your current harddrive partition/s using the windows partition manager or third party software.

Also, you will want to read up on some basic terminal commands. Although ubuntu is ensured to work "out of the box" it can still be useful to use the command line to install software packages, update your packages or for troubleshooting.

Have fun with Ubuntu!
 
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Still running on SlackWare o3o
 
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I'm thinking of using my laptop as a source to experiment with other distros. One of them is Debian but I haven't used it in years. Years and years.

I'm no expert in Linux, this much I know, so what should be some stuff I should think about before making a change? I mostly write and listen to music, but I do game and I prefer dark themes whenever I can get it. Does Debian still offer the ability to easily change themes to something like this or to even install Unity?

(made a change to the thread; might as well have a place where we can discuss Linux itself and not just Ubuntu, since not everyone uses it.)

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You could always dual boot if you don't want to commit to losing your windows OS as a lifeline of sorts. However if you want to do this you will have to disable secure boot on your motherboard's uefi settings if it is a uefi (not BIOS, you can usually find this out by googling the name of your motherboard) setup, and disable fast boot on your windows settings if you are using windows 8 and up. If you want to manually partition for dual boots you will also have to shrink your current harddrive partition/s using the windows partition manager or third party software.

Also, you will want to read up on some basic terminal commands. Although ubuntu is ensured to work "out of the box" it can still be useful to use the command line to install software packages, update your packages or for troubleshooting.

Have fun with Ubuntu!


I triple boot on my main PC. One drive for Ubuntu 14.04 LTS, one for Windows 7 and one for Windows 10 (I hardly use it now though), so I definitely suggest trying that too. If you want to ditch Windows forever though I can see why it isn't a solution haha

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If anyone is having problems with 16.04 LTS post here and I can try to help. It is usually the result of a bad dvd/usb burn but if it isn't I might know the solution. ;)

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Jelmazmo said:

I triple boot on my main PC. One drive for Ubuntu 14.04 LTS, one for Windows 7 and one for Windows 10 (I hardly use it now though), so I definitely suggest trying that too. If you want to ditch Windows forever though I can see why it isn't a solution haha


I would have ditched Windows by now already, but I need to use windows for my games and some coursework assignments. :(
 
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Lobinde said:
Jelmazmo said:

I triple boot on my main PC. One drive for Ubuntu 14.04 LTS, one for Windows 7 and one for Windows 10 (I hardly use it now though), so I definitely suggest trying that too. If you want to ditch Windows forever though I can see why it isn't a solution haha


I would have ditched Windows by now already, but I need to use windows for my games and some coursework assignments. :(

I only use and need Windows for games anymore, though I don't even play that much.... Some Warface once in a while right now. I only buy games for Linux now though :3
 
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@Lobinde

You should check out some of Linux's native software like Libreoffice or WINE. A lot of stuff can be used through it right now and it only gets better every year. If the games or software that works only on Windows is important there is still dual booting or VM (I recommend db over vm though). :)

@Gator

So you're truly a Linux person. I only buy games that have a Linux port now with very few exceptions (like Witcher 3). I'm hoping it catches on. :P

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@Lobinde

You should check out some of Linux's native software like Libreoffice or WINE. A lot of stuff can be used through it right now and it only gets better every year. If the games or software that works only on Windows is important there is still dual booting or VM (I recommend db over vm though). :)


I use Libreoffice but yeah, I need to check out WINE. I don't think it works for everything but I've heard it's helpful.
 
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Lobinde said:
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@Lobinde

You should check out some of Linux's native software like Libreoffice or WINE. A lot of stuff can be used through it right now and it only gets better every year. If the games or software that works only on Windows is important there is still dual booting or VM (I recommend db over vm though). :)


I use Libreoffice but yeah, I need to check out WINE. I don't think it works for everything but I've heard it's helpful.


It is very helpful. I got CS4 to work with it once. :P

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So you're truly a Linux person. I only buy games that have a Linux port now with very few exceptions (like Witcher 3). I'm hoping it catches on. :P

Yeah I still have some older games I want to play and need Windows, but new games with no Linux port are a no-go. I wasn't really interested in the Witcher 3, I played Witcher 1 which was a pain to finish and I played Witcher 2 for 1 hour before I deinstalled it again xD (even bought it on Steam...)

If they port Witcher 3 to Linux I might think about it. On other news Tomb Raider (2013) is now available for Linux yaaaaay! :3
 
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Gator said:
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So you're truly a Linux person. I only buy games that have a Linux port now with very few exceptions (like Witcher 3). I'm hoping it catches on. :P

Yeah I still have some older games I want to play and need Windows, but new games with no Linux port are a no-go. I wasn't really interested in the Witcher 3, I played Witcher 1 which was a pain to finish and I played Witcher 2 for 1 hour before I deinstalled it again xD (even bought it on Steam...)

If they port Witcher 3 to Linux I might think about it. On other news Tomb Raider (2013) is now available for Linux yaaaaay! :3


Believe me when I say Witcher 3 is a trillion times different than the previous games and a wonderful game. The lore, story and characters are amazing. :)

Oh, I heard something about TR getting a port to Linux. Thought it would take until the end of the year though. Since the PC port itself for the game is actually amazing I bet the Linux port is going to be very optimized.

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Believe me when I say Witcher 3 is a trillion times different than the previous games and a wonderful game. The lore, story and characters are amazing. :)

Oh, I heard something about TR getting a port to Linux. Thought it would take until the end of the year though. Since the PC port itself for the game is actually amazing I bet the Linux port is going to be very optimized.

I heard that, though I really don't like that "You are a Witcher"-thing. I like to decide for myself if I'm a warrior or a mage or whatever like in Elder Scrolls. The combat system is too narrowed down on that Witcher class imo.

It was part of a Humble Bundel I once bought, but I haven't tried installing it yet. Since I re-installed my Ubuntu just recently I first have to install Ark again xD
 
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I heard that, though I really don't like that "You are a Witcher"-thing. I like to decide for myself if I'm a warrior or a mage or whatever like in Elder Scrolls. The combat system is too narrowed down on that Witcher class imo.

It was part of a Humble Bundel I once bought, but I haven't tried installing it yet. Since I re-installed my Ubuntu just recently I first have to install Ark again xD


Ah, its the type of game you don't like, okay. Well you still might enjoy it for the story and the combat alone. If you ever change your mind and play it, I'd like to hear what you have to say about it. Perhaps it will have a Linux port by then, too.

Well if you do install and test it, do share the quality of it. :)

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Ah, its the type of game you don't like, okay. Well you still might enjoy it for the story and the combat alone. If you ever change your mind and play it, I'd like to hear what you have to say about it. Perhaps it will have a Linux port by then, too.

Well if you do install and test it, do share the quality of it. :)

If I ever play it, it definitely will be on Linux. So without a Linux port there's just now way ^^

Maybe when I feel like it this weekend, already played it with a friend a bit and except for the quicktime events it looked pretty nice :3
 
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@Gator

They did Witcher 2 so it seems really odd they would exclude the most popular of the series and a well received game. I suspect by the end of the year we will have an early release, and if not that, details on its progress.

Here is some info if you wanna see where it was discussed: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=QTzMelOeKEw#t=6m30s

Cool, cool, whenever you can or feel like it. :)

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I have upgraded to Manjaro 18.1.0. I am using the KDE Plasma desktop environment.
 
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*sigh* I never got a chance to use linux in my entire life... except maybe for that one course I had where we were forced to use.
 
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KDE is the best environment I think, I favor distros that have it set to their default. I stopped using GNOME about 10 (I think) years ago during the whole GNOME 3 fiasco which was probably just as bad as Windows 8's UI.

KDE has always been consistently nice, though.
 
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Lately I've been mostly using Fedora at work. It's pretty interesting because before I've been only using Ubuntu and Mint.
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Manjaro has founded their own company Manjaro GmbH & Co. KG. I hope to see their efforts pay off even more with a solid and great developing distrobution of linux.
 
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Not a Linux user, but I loved how super stable it was when I used it as my main operating system back in the day ^^
 
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Not a Linux user, but I loved how super stable it was when I used it as my main operating system back in the day ^^


Debian (based systems) is (are) still the most stable operating system out there. The rolling operating systems (arch, opensuse,...) need backups on regular bases, but you are adviced to do this before you make a major update.
 
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Not a Linux user, but I loved how super stable it was when I used it as my main operating system back in the day ^^


Debian (based systems) is (are) still the most stable operating system out there. The rolling operating systems (arch, opensuse,...) need backups on regular bases, but you are adviced to do this before you make a major update.
That's good to know. As I always though of Linux as the epitome of stability~ :D
 
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Debian (based systems) is (are) still the most stable operating system out there. The rolling operating systems (arch, opensuse,...) need backups on regular bases, but you are adviced to do this before you make a major update.
That's good to know. As I always though of Linux as the epitome of stability~ :D


Yeah, on linux operating systems the first step always depends on do you want the newest kind of software/updates right on their (beta) release time, but with a little risk about the program/system stability or do you prefer slightly older software and more waiting time before you get the newest updates and therefor better tested software and system stability. The next steps are about which file manager, packet manager and desktop environment you prefer, there are plenty of different options on desktop environment and many of them with own file manager/ packet manager (KDE Plasma, Gnome, Cinnamon, XFCE, LXQT, Deepin, Budgie, Mate, ...).
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SweetMonia said:
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Debian (based systems) is (are) still the most stable operating system out there. The rolling operating systems (arch, opensuse,...) need backups on regular bases, but you are adviced to do this before you make a major update.
That's good to know. As I always though of Linux as the epitome of stability~ :D


It's all fun and games until a simple package update renders an Arch Linux system unusable, lol.

Although that is just what comes with rolling release bleeding edge distributions, need to do some reading on changes that have been done before actually doing any updates.

Other distributions which are focused on stability are extremely stable, I don't think I've ever actually seen Debian crash for example which is nice...
 
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pretty much any distro that isn't debian, redhat, or opensuse is too unstable to use imo
mostly lean towards debian because its what I'm used to and just werks™.
 
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I'm purely a windows person but I've been playing around with Linux Mint Cinnamon 19.2 lately and it has it's charms.
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It's all fun and games until a simple package update renders an Arch Linux system unusable, lol.

Although that is just what comes with rolling release bleeding edge distributions, need to do some reading on changes that have been done before actually doing any updates.


That is why you usually should make a timeshift or similar kind of backup and if the newest updates eventually causes trouble, you can always switch back to your backup.

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Other distributions which are focused on stability are extremely stable, I don't think I've ever actually seen Debian crash for example which is nice...


Yeah, especially because the software is already tested for month by rolling releases, so the risk of problems is extremely low. That is why the Debian family is even more stable then Windows, that had a lot of troubles because of some automatic updates.

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I'm purely a windows person but I've been playing around with Linux Mint Cinnamon 19.2 lately and it has it's charms.


Yeah,you can just use a linux distro of your choice in either a virtual environment or on a live disc before really dualbooting and maybe even switching as daily driver.
 
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