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Apr 21, 2016 12:44 AM

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Guilty Crown had rape? When? I don't remember any rape scene in the show.


I think he either means the part when Inori was tied up or shit or when Arisa had sex with the other guy. I'd argue that the Arisa thing is a grey area, but I don't even think there was intercourse with Inori's scenes.
He said that his fav female character gets raped a few times, implying she get raped more than one time. I don't remember any Inori's rape innuendo, so or he is referring to Arisa or he has mistook the anime.
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Momo>Vanilla>Harem>3P>Yuri>MILF>Futa>Trap>>>>>shit>>>NTR/Rape
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I don't understand exactly what you are trying to say, but i was just trying to express my disdain for unwarranted violence upon the undeserving. I am ok with non-lethal violence in a story as long as it is visited upon the unjust.
Here's the thing. A story having violence in it, whether it's unwarranted or not doesn't mean it by default immature. The reason your retarded post has me responding so colorfully is because you think that you've matured above it. Maturity has nothing to do with your idiotic preference, you aren't more mature than anyone because of your shit generalizations of violence in fiction.
well, you see, the reason you think that way, is because you haven't matured enough to understand. It seems that some people never will.
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ilovewendy16 said:
BadOpinion said:
Here's the thing. A story having violence in it, whether it's unwarranted or not doesn't mean it by default immature. The reason your retarded post has me responding so colorfully is because you think that you've matured above it. Maturity has nothing to do with your idiotic preference, you aren't more mature than anyone because of your shit generalizations of violence in fiction.
well, you see, the reason you think that way, is because you haven't matured enough to understand. It seems that some people never will.

1) Speaking about how mature he is.
2) Stated age ~19 years.
3) Favorites full of shonen anime like Naruto and One Piece, mixed with romance like Toradora or Chuu2Koi.

I think you're bluffing, ilovewendy16.
As an adult, you don't have to try so hard to seem mature.
In fact, you're now responsible for your own psychological health, so denying yourself is a bad idea. Maybe you should give yourself some time to re-evaluate yourself and your values.
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ilovewendy16 said:
BadOpinion said:
Here's the thing. A story having violence in it, whether it's unwarranted or not doesn't mean it by default immature. The reason your retarded post has me responding so colorfully is because you think that you've matured above it. Maturity has nothing to do with your idiotic preference, you aren't more mature than anyone because of your shit generalizations of violence in fiction.
well, you see, the reason you think that way, is because you haven't matured enough to understand. It seems that some people never will.

I'll be blunt with you. If you were mature as you claim yourself to be, you would be open to everything and wouldn't care much what others like or don't. You can surely have your preferences, but you wouldn't try to reason as to why that preference is the best option for everyone else. You also seem to want to shelter yourself(and others) from thoughts and ideas that 'you' deem to be bad. You're arguing against depiction of violence, gore,rape,etc. in a fictional environment which solidifies the fact that you want yourself and others to live in a world free from ideas 'you' deem bad. Ignoring things isn't how you grow as an individual. You need to learn to face things and come out of your safe space.
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flannan said:
ilovewendy16 said:
well, you see, the reason you think that way, is because you haven't matured enough to understand. It seems that some people never will.

1) Speaking about how mature he is.
2) Stated age ~19 years.
3) Favorites full of shonen anime like Naruto and One Piece, mixed with romance like Toradora or Chuu2Koi.

I think you're bluffing, ilovewendy16.
As an adult, you don't have to try so hard to seem mature.
In fact, you're now responsible for your own psychological health, so denying yourself is a bad idea. Maybe you should give yourself some time to re-evaluate yourself and your values.
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flannan said:
ilovewendy16 said:
well, you see, the reason you think that way, is because you haven't matured enough to understand. It seems that some people never will.

1) Speaking about how mature he is.
2) Stated age ~19 years.
3) Favorites full of shonen anime like Naruto and One Piece, mixed with romance like Toradora or Chuu2Koi.

I think you're bluffing, ilovewendy16.
As an adult, you don't have to try so hard to seem mature.
In fact, you're now responsible for your own psychological health, so denying yourself is a bad idea. Maybe you should give yourself some time to re-evaluate yourself and your values.
If your intent is to somehow prove that i am immature, listing naruto as one of my favorites is not going to do it. Naruto is more mature that almost everything else i have seen. And by mature i mean philosophically. Also, age has nothing to do with maturity level. There are immature 50 year olds and mature 10 year olds. You have not made any logical points for your argument. There is absolutely no evidence to back up your statement that i am bluffing. By the way, someone can be mature in some areas and immature in others. I'm not saying that i am an overall mature person, because i am most certainly not. However, i do understand the importance of human life and the immaturity that comes along with disregarding it.
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ilovewendy16 said:
well, you see, the reason you think that way, is because you haven't matured enough to understand. It seems that some people never will.

I'll be blunt with you. If you were mature as you claim yourself to be, you would be open to everything and wouldn't care much what others like or don't. You can surely have your preferences, but you wouldn't try to reason as to why that preference is the best option for everyone else. You also seem to want to shelter yourself(and others) from thoughts and ideas that 'you' deem to be bad. You're arguing against depiction of violence, gore,rape,etc. in a fictional environment which solidifies the fact that you want yourself and others to live in a world free from ideas 'you' deem bad. Ignoring things isn't how you grow as an individual. You need to learn to face things and come out of your safe space.
We are talking about existential immorality here, NOT something that i deem "bad". This shit is not my "opinion" it is fundamental truth. The actual fact is, that shit is wrong, and enjoying it is wrong. Thats not my opinion its fact. Also, i don't know how i'm "ignoring somthing" by stating that something is wrong.
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ilovewendy16 said:
If your intent is to somehow prove that i am immature, listing naruto as one of my favorites is not going to do it. Naruto is more mature that almost everything else i have seen. And by mature i mean philosophically.

Indeed, Naruto is one of those shows that aren't ashamed to add some morality and philosophy into the show.
Personally, I like Raildex for that, and it's one of the things that I like about SAO.

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Also, age has nothing to do with maturity level. There are immature 50 year olds and mature 10 year olds. You have not made any logical points for your argument. There is absolutely no evidence to back up your statement that i am bluffing. By the way, someone can be mature in some areas and immature in others. I'm not saying that i am an overall mature person, because i am most certainly not.

I've been meaning to say that your claim that you are the final form of morality and maturity is suspicious.

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However, i do understand the importance of human life and the immaturity that comes along with disregarding it.

You make me feel like I'm a proud warrior race guy (it happens on these forums occasionally), but I see ability to remain strong in the face of death, and to kill others even when you recognize the value of their lives, as an important part of maturity.
We live in an imperfect world where violence is pretty much unavoidable. Well, maybe you live in a nicer place, where people can actually resolve their differences through talking.
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ilovewendy16 said:
bikers123 said:

I'll be blunt with you. If you were mature as you claim yourself to be, you would be open to everything and wouldn't care much what others like or don't. You can surely have your preferences, but you wouldn't try to reason as to why that preference is the best option for everyone else. You also seem to want to shelter yourself(and others) from thoughts and ideas that 'you' deem to be bad. You're arguing against depiction of violence, gore,rape,etc. in a fictional environment which solidifies the fact that you want yourself and others to live in a world free from ideas 'you' deem bad. Ignoring things isn't how you grow as an individual. You need to learn to face things and come out of your safe space.
We are talking about existential immorality here, NOT something that i deem "bad". This shit is not my "opinion" it is fundamental truth. The actual fact is, that shit is wrong, and enjoying it is wrong. Thats not my opinion its fact. Also, i don't know how i'm "ignoring somthing" by stating that something is wrong.


You're arguing for censoring ideas that may or may not be bad. Depiction of death, torture, rape,etc. in fictional settings is completely acceptable and people have the right to write about them. Fantasizing about stuff that 'you' may find unacceptable is also someone's human right. Only when those actions are performed in real life, does it really become an issue. You may enjoy echchi or hentai, but there are a large number of individuals who strongly believe that it is unacceptable and there is something wrong with you for liking it. Do you get what I'm trying to say here. I'm not arguing for rape or murder in the real world to be legalized here.
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I actually fantasize about being rape by Rob Halford. So i can't really say anything against it.
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bikers123 said:
ilovewendy16 said:
We are talking about existential immorality here, NOT something that i deem "bad". This shit is not my "opinion" it is fundamental truth. The actual fact is, that shit is wrong, and enjoying it is wrong. Thats not my opinion its fact. Also, i don't know how i'm "ignoring somthing" by stating that something is wrong.


You're arguing for censoring ideas that may or may not be bad. Depiction of death, torture, rape,etc. in fictional settings is completely acceptable and people have the right to write about them. Fantasizing about stuff that 'you' may find unacceptable is also someone's human right. Only when those actions are performed in real life, does it really become an issue. You may enjoy echchi or hentai, but there are a large number of individuals who strongly believe that it is unacceptable and there is something wrong with you for liking it. Do you get what I'm trying to say here. I'm not arguing for rape or murder in the real world to be legalized here.
The problem here is that all things start in the mind. I'm not saying that somone exposed to such grafic content will commit the actions in real life, but i do think that people who actually seek out such content has a high liability to commit dipicted actions. Thinking about such things and enjoying them will inevitably lead to at least wanting to commit said actions in real life. Also, there is no, "may or may not be bad" about it. Anything that causes harm to one's self or another is inherently and unquestionably bad.
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ilovewendy16 said:
bikers123 said:


You're arguing for censoring ideas that may or may not be bad. Depiction of death, torture, rape,etc. in fictional settings is completely acceptable and people have the right to write about them. Fantasizing about stuff that 'you' may find unacceptable is also someone's human right. Only when those actions are performed in real life, does it really become an issue. You may enjoy echchi or hentai, but there are a large number of individuals who strongly believe that it is unacceptable and there is something wrong with you for liking it. Do you get what I'm trying to say here. I'm not arguing for rape or murder in the real world to be legalized here.
The problem here is that all things start in the mind. I'm not saying that somone exposed to such grafic content will commit the actions in real life, but i do think that people who actually seek out such content has a high liability to commit dipicted actions. Thinking about such things and enjoying them will inevitably lead to at least wanting to commit said actions in real life.


Are all people who watch graphic porn sexual deviants looking to rape people on the street? Are all people who enjoy violent video games rampaging with M4A4s on the street? The argument you're using has been overdone to portray video games as evil for decades now. In fact, I believe sheltering people from ideas is the worst thing you could do. It impedes their mental growth.
All ideas are open for discussion and depiction.
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It was only a fiction scene in a fiction but the Perfect Blue one left me very uneasy. It was nonetheless very well made.
In another anime:



The Urotsukidôji "rapes" were grotesque enough to make them funny.
Apr 21, 2016 4:24 AM

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Nothing wrong with a little rape here in there, especially if they deserve it. Only complaint is that it completely ruins a girl's value as waifu material, I mean who wants used goods?
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i really dont see any rape scene in normal anime. but hentai alot and it doesnt turn me on
Apr 21, 2016 4:49 AM

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Only complaint is that it completely ruins a girl's value as waifu material, I mean who wants used goods?

In case you are serious: Don't think about non-virgin women as "used goods", think "experienced and good in bed".
Also, a woman who had other men before you, but chose you anyway, is good for self-esteem.
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kuus said:
Only complaint is that it completely ruins a girl's value as waifu material, I mean who wants used goods?

In case you are serious: Don't think about non-virgin women as "used goods", think "experienced and good in bed".
Also, a woman who had other men before you, but chose you anyway, is good for self-esteem.


Um this is the rape in anime thread, not the beta male justifies settling thread.
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kuus said:
flannan said:

In case you are serious: Don't think about non-virgin women as "used goods", think "experienced and good in bed".
Also, a woman who had other men before you, but chose you anyway, is good for self-esteem.


Um this is the rape in anime thread, not the beta male justifies settling thread.

If you can't love a girl just because she's not a virgin, you're a whiny pussy who lacks confidence. Real men fuck anything that moves.
[insert some tentacle rape pictures here]
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I think "rape" can express how much the world where the anime is set is cruel. But most of the time it's overused or used in incovenient moments.
I don't mind watching "rape" most of the time (It's my manliness who talks now), but I don't always like the setting.
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kuus said:


Um this is the rape in anime thread, not the beta male justifies settling thread.

If you can't love a girl just because she's not a virgin, you're a whiny pussy who lacks confidence. Real men fuck anything that moves.
[insert some tentacle rape pictures here]


Fucking and loving are two completely different things, you silly little boy. Real men value themselves high enough not to settle for something that other men have discarded.
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flannan said:

If you can't love a girl just because she's not a virgin, you're a whiny pussy who lacks confidence. Real men fuck anything that moves.
[insert some tentacle rape pictures here]


Fucking and loving are two completely different things, you silly little boy. Real men value themselves high enough not to settle for something that other men have discarded.

I feel we went too far off-topic, (and that you're either a bad person or a troll, and trolls are bad people too), so I would not respond further. I still disagree.
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ilovewendy16 said:
The problem here is that all things start in the mind. I'm not saying that somone exposed to such grafic content will commit the actions in real life, but i do think that people who actually seek out such content has a high liability to commit dipicted actions. Thinking about such things and enjoying them will inevitably lead to at least wanting to commit said actions in real life. Also, there is no, "may or may not be bad" about it. Anything that causes harm to one's self or another is inherently and unquestionably bad.


In your opinion.

There's a big difference between enjoying something that's not real, and going out and harming actual living people and taking the responsibility for that. you have to already be a little cracked in the head to do that.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=dr8CvCSxGbk

Have a listen to this educational video.
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ilovewendy16 said:
The problem here is that all things start in the mind. I'm not saying that somone exposed to such grafic content will commit the actions in real life, but i do think that people who actually seek out such content has a high liability to commit dipicted actions. Thinking about such things and enjoying them will inevitably lead to at least wanting to commit said actions in real life. Also, there is no, "may or may not be bad" about it. Anything that causes harm to one's self or another is inherently and unquestionably bad.


In your opinion.

There's a big difference between enjoying something that's not real, and going out and harming actual living people and taking the responsibility for that. you have to already be a little cracked in the head to do that.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=dr8CvCSxGbk

Have a listen to this educational video.
that crappy song is a load of bullshit.
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When i saw the rape scene in Berserk (Anime), i was shocked at first. But the most shocking thing was, that the story ended like this xD After that i started to watch the films and the rape scene was even more detailed :O i felt a liitle bit uncomfortable, especially when my boyfriend came in my room lol. He thought i was watching a hentai xD
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When i saw the rape scene in Berserk (Anime), i was shocked at first. But the most shocking thing was, that the story ended like this xD After that i started to watch the films and the rape scene was even more detailed :O i felt a liitle bit uncomfortable, especially when my boyfriend came in my room lol. He thought i was watching a hentai xD

They say that in the manga, they (at least Guts and Casca) get rescued after that. I think by the same black knight that has once given Guts a sword on the battlefield.
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They say that in the manga, they (at least Guts and Casca) get rescued after that. I think by the same black knight that has once given Guts a sword on the battlefield.


yeah i know, i read the manga until the latest chapter :) it's also my favorite manga
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no one mentioned the 3rd kara no kyoukai movie?
There is also that almost rape scene in the 7th one too.
forgot about that really should re-watch those movies again.
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Nothing wrong with a little rape here in there, especially if they deserve it. Only complaint is that it completely ruins a girl's value as waifu material, I mean who wants used goods?


Yeah, you do make a good point.

Raped waifus are a big no.
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ilovewendy16 said:
The problem here is that all things start in the mind. I'm not saying that somone exposed to such grafic content will commit the actions in real life, but i do think that people who actually seek out such content has a high liability to commit dipicted actions. Thinking about such things and enjoying them will inevitably lead to at least wanting to commit said actions in real life. Also, there is no, "may or may not be bad" about it. Anything that causes harm to one's self or another is inherently and unquestionably bad.


In your opinion.

There's a big difference between enjoying something that's not real, and going out and harming actual living people and taking the responsibility for that. you have to already be a little cracked in the head to do that.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=dr8CvCSxGbk

Have a listen to this educational video.


A lot of people also have sexual fantasies about being rape.

The thing about fantasies is that they're safe and we're in complete control of them. We can stop whenever we want to. We can do whatever we want to. Rape fantasies aren't rape.

I don't know much about the psychology of rapists to know whether they're attracted to this material before they commit rape. Based on a lot of stories I hear, rapists aren't laughing monsters. They're people who just don't have empathy.
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well in kara no kyokai the rape was pretty apathetic. but in mirra nikki the rape of the priestess was pretty slutty the later on the rape of the girl that twin diary guy was in love with honestly made me cry because she was set up by girls from her school and ambushed by 5 guys :( it was so sad....
Sry guys, I'm the main character of this anime.
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