| When will it all end? Is it really that hard to write something without this annoying ass trope? Whats even worse is that all these generic stories get anime adaptions........ |
RobiiiiApr 17, 2016 10:28 AM
| Probably not anytime soon. As long as it's popular in Japan, it'll continue I suppose. |
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| it has and will always exist. Films, tv shows, western cartoons, anime series, books, even video games will always have generic mcs that are either simpletons or gary stues/mary sues. They're easy to write about, reach to a wider audience, and there is no fear that the studios will lose money since it's not a big risk. |
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| literally never but there are plenty of anime each season without that trope, and it shouldn't be hard to identify them |
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KuuhakuDesu said: Try it yourself. Write a story where the main character is not dense and generic. You'll find out if it's hard or not. DxD, Otoshimono, and to an extent Testament have not dense mcs, so it is possible :p Testament had a weak story tho :/ |
| It will never cease. It is one of the easiest way to milk cash from the medium after all. |
| You do realize that most of your ecchi harem will disappear without these dense MCs, don't you >_> >DxD MC not dense 3_3 I don't know what kind of character you can call him if not generic |
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Z-Dante said: You do realize that most of your ecchi harem will disappear without these dense MCs, don't you >_> They (usually) feature the absolute weakest ecchi ever, so yes, i wouldnt mind. Rather something else pls :p |
| Hopefully soon. All we can do is hope. |
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Robiiii said: >To love ru weak ecchi? -.-Z-Dante said: You do realize that most of your ecchi harem will disappear without these dense MCs, don't you >_> They (usually) feature the absolute weakest ecchi ever, so yes, i wouldnt mind. Rather something else pls :p All the ecchi shows out there has a generic MC to begin with >_> |
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Z-Dante said: Robiiii said: >To love ru weak ecchi? -.-They (usually) feature the absolute weakest ecchi ever, so yes, i wouldnt mind. Rather something else pls :p All the ecchi shows out there has a generic MC to begin with >_> Thats why i said (usually). Which means not always :p |
Robiiii said: When will it all end? Is it really that hard to write something without this annoying ass trope? Whats even worse is that all these generic stories get anime adaptions........ This trope didn't even start w anime, it goes back to the early days of cartoons Don't forget anime was inspired by things like disney, many of which have lame main characters who end up saving the day somehow But as someone who's not looking at the dudes in the first place, I still dgaf lol |
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| @mamster-p but thats Disney. Thats how it should be XD And it should stay in Disney... :p |
| When Japan stops buying lots of copies of the battle magic school ecchi harem with a red headed tsundere for one. In other words: never!!! |
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Robiiii said: @mamster-p but thats Disney. Thats how it should be XD And it should stay in Disney... :p We kinda have to thank disney for anime lol so even if that means some characters are dumbasses, it's worth it, especially when it's nothing new in the first place, it's not an "era" it's always been like this |
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Mamster-P said: Robiiii said: @mamster-p but thats Disney. Thats how it should be XD And it should stay in Disney... :p We kinda have to thank disney for anime lol so even if that means some characters are dumbasses, it's worth it, especially when it's nothing new in the first place, it's not an "era" it's always been like this Ye ur right...but it still gonna bug me for an unlimited amount of time X3 |
| Don't just blame the MC, blame the girls too for not making things clear for him. While yes dense MC is annoying, 8 of 10 harems i've seen so far have heroines who are simply too reserved, embarassed, or in denial about their feelings. It's both parties who are at fault. |
Robiiii said: At least anime doesn't declare all their heroine as a princess near the end :>Mamster-P said: We kinda have to thank disney for anime lol so even if that means some characters are dumbasses, it's worth it, especially when it's nothing new in the first place, it's not an "era" it's always been like this Ye ur right...but it still gonna bug me for an unlimited amount of time X3 Or do they 3_3 OT: I haven't seen almost any harem without generic dense MC |
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| When it stops making money. That's really all there is to it. |
Z-Dante said: At least anime doesn't declare all their heroine as a princess near the end :> Or do they 3_3 OT: I haven't seen almost any harem without generic dense MC Testament, DxD, Otoshimono are things tht ur looking for buddy :3 Maybe theres other but i dont remember... @altoroark Hopefully very soon |
| >genrerc dense mc's Behold the power of god  Not everyone is your rito and raku. There are far better characters out there. |
| Would it still be a harem if the mc can read the mood? I mean it's be kinda awkward if he started saying:"Based on her actions near me, this girl is in love with me." I mean how the heck should he react. |
PantsuuGodApr 18, 2016 9:35 AM
  "You shall fall in love with someone who doesn't love you. For not loving someone who did" |
| @Robiiii You're suposed to pay more attention t the girls anyway Why does the guy matter? ( ͡° ͜ʖ ͡°) |
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Mamster-P said: @Robiiii You're suposed to pay more attention t the girls anyway Why does the guy matter? ( ͡° ͜ʖ ͡°) U can get more intense ecchi scenes if hes not a dense brick. Also its just more interesting. :3 |
Robiiii said: Mamster-P said: @Robiiii You're suposed to pay more attention t the girls anyway Why does the guy matter? ( ͡° ͜ʖ ͡°) U can get more intense ecchi scenes if hes not a dense brick. Also its just more interesting. :3 I prefer when there's a guy but idc if he's shit xD |
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Snappynator said: Those MC's exist in other categories like battle shounen and rom coms so the likelihood of those not selling are even lower.When Japan stops buying lots of copies of the battle magic school ecchi harem with a red headed tsundere for one. In other words: never!!! |
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Robiiii said: When will it all end? Is it really that hard to write something without this annoying ass trope? Whats even worse is that all these generic stories get anime adaptions........ it depens on the popularity in Japan. if the viewers in the Japan get bored of it, Generic MC, not MC, Generic Harem will be gone. they will stop making it because it's not popular anymore. i'm guessing that kind of harem (generic harem) is popular right now in japan, while it's not popular outside Japan. probably that's why they still keep adapting and publishing it. well if that is really the case i can't even argue with it because in the beginning, Anime,Manga and LN are originally from japan. so it's kinda obvious if they only care of japanese viewers. but...i don't really mind it. well, if it's only one generic harem series in one season, why not ? if it's two, three or maybe more, now that is a big problem. |
YizelTroApr 17, 2016 11:59 AM
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| As other people has said before, when Japanese people stop liking it, i.e. never. |
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| When it stops selling |
 NasalShark said: I'd love to squeeze your nipples until they look like a purple slushie, Senpai. |
| How about watching more anime? cherry picking at it's best. |
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| i prefer danse MC anytime. usually they are actually have quality to be harem MC rather than another. |
 "If taking responsibility for a mistake that cannot be undone means death, it's not that hard to die. At least, not as hard as to live on." |
| It will end when you stop watching it |
| When Index III comes out. Generic fandom will die. don't take what I said seriously |
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| unfortunately it won't be anytime soon |
| Sasuke or Kaneki I can't decide |
Robiiii said: When will it all end? Is it really that hard to write something without this annoying ass trope? Whats even worse is that all these generic stories get anime adaptions........ "Generic" This word keeps getting thrown around like it's supposed to make sense. There are a lot of dense main characters out there, and I wouldn't have them any other way. Yusuke Urameshi is a dense lead. He doesn't understand how others feel about him and that's why him learning about all that stuff after dying has impact. He still stays dense though, but not just about romance but about how a lot of people feel meaning the show can explore it further. Gon is a dense lead. If he was all socially aware he wouldn't be the selfish person he is. Ryner Lute is a dense lead. If he was all socially aware it would downplay his decision to outcast himself from society. Grimgar's protagonist is a dense lead character. He doesn't really pay that much attention to other people. This makes his shift to leader more profound. Mika from Iron Blooded Orphans is a dense character, and I like him that way. His denseness shows how straightforward and natural he is. Dense leads have a use. Imagine if the protagonist new which girls liked him or why the antagonist hated him like almost instantly. Now the anime doesn't get the chance to explore that. Also being socially competent means you're not naive and straightforward. Naive and straightforward characters are very likeable. Simon from Guren Lagann can be considered dense. He never understood how almost anyone felt in the show until it was too late, but that explored almost every character's struggles. Ok now to tackle generic. This means that there's nothing inherently special about them. They aren't unique by any sense of the word. Ok you're probably throwing this at the protagonists you find boring. Now think about the heroines. You've seen them all. ALL OVER THE PLACE. You've seen them in giant robot shows. You've seen the in action comedies. You've seen them in all girl shows. Literally no one's standard personality is that unique. Nothing is really new, but the more you get to know the person the more chances they have of being unique and different. Psycho-Pass's characters are not unique by any sense of the word. Those character types are literally everywhere. The energetic guy. The cool guy. The cool old man. They cynical young one. The energetic young one. It doesn't matter, because the show's still good, and the more you learned about the characters the more you can see what makes them special. Basically, if your first reaction when you see characters like Haruhiko from Phantom World in a show is "generic' just stop. |
| The day the otakus start having sex with real people instead of their body pillows AKA never |
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| In about 20 years when most anime will be aimed at 30+ year olds. |
| Protagonists should be like Shinosuke, a natural asshole so hard that even he gets a harem of his own even if he is against it. |
 "...ahh, you're really wonderful. I like you. Oh, of course Mari-san is the first okay? I won't give up on Mari-san being my legal wife." |
| When a studio decides to adapt something that is different. Taking a huge risk of not getting that much money because it's not a copy of something that's already successful. |
| it's already ended, now anime is full of crybaby mc. |
| Without a dense MC, then sex will happen. They don't want that, cause young 14 year old otaku can't relate to a MC that gets laid all the time. |
| Anime sucks. |
| Generic dense mc era will end when the world end. xD |
| This salad is salty favored |
| I hope soon because I wanna see some romance that PROGRESSES |
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| I wish it would, but Japan seems to be in love with these generic MCs |
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