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| Holy crap! Best episode of Dragon Ball Super! |
| Can such a dream truely exist? |
nameskizo said: been a long time since i got goosebumps from a db episode Exactly the goosebumps were real this episode. Was all hyped up in my chair screaming all the time XD. Amazing use of Kaoi-ken! Really nice to bring it back again. Btw scary gaze here XD  |
| first the galick gun and now the kioken old techniques are coming back |
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| exciting fight and cool kamehameha. one thing i wonder is, if goku was holding back on using kaio-ken while in any ssj form, why didnt he use it against beerus when he was threating to destroy the earth, the stakes seem high enough. and then he would have stood more of a chance. |
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| Finally for once they made a good ep. I am glad the fight with Goku vs. Hit wil last for several ep. It's gonna be exciting who the winner will be. I hope Goku will loose since he is always winning the fights and because we will see Monaka in action. xD But damn, never imagined super saiyan blue combined with Kaio-Ken. That's just cool. xD I liked the animation in this ep. Far better the other ep. |
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Tropicalwood said: I never understood why Goku never tried to use the kaio-what after going Super Saiyan. kaio-what. hahaha, I loved the dubbed version by team-star. they are really funny. xD |
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j0x said: elior1 said: i suprised hit survived this strong kamehamea in the next episode preview. i was sure this was the end ye im surprised too, and looks like in the preview Goku will be knocked out by Hit too meanwhile the frustration of Vegeta being weaker than Goku shows again lol  just like classic DBZ. xD |
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agreed.. Thinking of dropping this anime, nothing ever happens |
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| This episode literally made me cum. Hella nostalgia. |
Some things can never be forgotten. ll Truth Seeker ll ll Gift from Leo ll Gift from Kasumi ll ll |
HornyPikachu said: exciting fight and cool kamehameha. one thing i wonder is, if goku was holding back on using kaio-ken while in any ssj form, why didnt he use it against beerus when he was threating to destroy the earth, the stakes seem high enough. and then he would have stood more of a chance. He probably achieved and thought of this when he was training in the Hype Ebolic Skyscraper with Vegeta, after that whole deal went down. |
| The new technique was a huge let down for me. We just got Blue form and you're going to introduce power up past it already... I was hopeful that maybe he had an actual new technique. |
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| i want to see bardock..... is he still alive?? |
Madara22 said: Not bad but c'mon how can Goku always get stronger..... The power of main character. |
HornyPikachu said: exciting fight and cool kamehameha. one thing i wonder is, if goku was holding back on using kaio-ken while in any ssj form, why didnt he use it against beerus when he was threating to destroy the earth, the stakes seem high enough. and then he would have stood more of a chance. actually it was stated in the episode that if he used kioken with ssj it will literaly kill him, it is available in blue with 10% chance of success because its both has higher ki control and a calm mind while ssj requires emotions (anger) it was stated by kio-sama halfway end if i remember correctly... |
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| Wow. I teared up watching this. When he started powering-up and Vegeta commented on what he's feeling, I was covering my mouth in the sheer awe of nostalgia, it was just beautiful. And then when he said those words, when he said those magnificent -- borderline fanfiction -- words, I became a kid again. For the second time this month, but it was the best time. Dat Hit doe, I don't even understand how he kept increasing he's limit, but it doesn't matter, because it was hype. This entire episode was just a throwback to the prime days of the series, the days when DBZ cemented itself as the most popular anime that will ever exist. 5/5 P.S. Idk if it has been mentioned here or not, but the explanation he gave Hit is almost the verbatim explanation he gave Vegeta. |
ziggy_ZApr 19, 2016 4:41 AM
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ziggy_Z said: Wow. I teared up watching this. When he started powering-up and Vegeta commented on what he's feeling, I was covering my mouth in the sheer awe of nostalgia, it was just beautiful. And then when he said those words, when he said those magnificent -- borderline fanfiction -- words, I became a kid again. For the second time this month, but it was the best time. Dat Hit doe, I don't even understand how he kept increasing he's limit, but it doesn't matter, because it was hype. This entire episode was just a throwback to the prime days of the series, the days when DBZ cemented itself as the most popular anime that will ever exist. 5/5 P.S. Idk if it has been mentioned here or not, but the explanation he gave Hit is almost the verbatim explanation he gave Vegeta. He increased his limits through Improvement which he hadn't done for over a thousand years. Which is why it became faster and faster. If he would've improved in those thousand years Goku's growth rate would be better but since he didn't he is a lot weaker than he would have been but is able to get stronger faster. :/ |
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Snappynator said: Kaioken x Super Saiyan Blue is completely new, I don't recall Goku having done a Saiyan transformation + Kaioken at once before (maybe he did? Been a while since I last saw Z) so it's just odd to see him being capable of pulling it off 1st time with Super Saiyan Blue. Just my thoughts tho, the episode as a whole was great. He never did it in canon, but he did during the Other World Tournament against Pikon. The episode explained why he never has, because, as explained in this episode, Kaio-ken takes an incredible toll on the body (as evident against Vegeta), and since SS is also essentially a Ki-multiplier, combining the two would theoretically, as stated in this episode, destroy Goku. The reason he used it in the Other World Tournament is because he was already dead, and also he used it together with MSS1. HornyPikachu said: exciting fight and cool kamehameha. one thing i wonder is, if goku was holding back on using kaio-ken while in any ssj form, why didnt he use it against beerus when he was threating to destroy the earth, the stakes seem high enough. and then he would have stood more of a chance. IIRC, Goku realised he wasn't gonna be able to beat him until after they fought above the atmosphere. And by that point, he was fatigued and used up all his Ki, so going Kaio-ken would've failed and he'd have died. Nonchalance said: A new outtanowhere technique would've been worse than Kaio-ken. Imagine he did, instead of the amount of orgasms people are saying they had in this thread, it's be full of that many posts saying "asspull."The new technique was a huge let down for me. We just got Blue form and you're going to introduce power up past it already... I was hopeful that maybe he had an actual new technique. Nope. Hoping there's an Other World/Hell episode where they meet him! MaxXZoe said: actually it was stated in the episode that if he used kioken with ssj it will literaly kill him, it is available in blue with 10% chance of success because its both has higher ki control and a calm mind while ssj requires emotions (anger) it was stated by kio-sama halfway end if i remember correctly... That was true until the Android Saga, where Goku & Gohan (and later Trunks & Vegeta) achieved complete control of their SS power. So in theory, he could've used Kaio-ken against Cell and everyone afterwards, but there was no need in-story. |
ziggy_ZApr 19, 2016 5:13 AM
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ziggy_Z said: Snappynator said: Kaioken x Super Saiyan Blue is completely new, I don't recall Goku having done a Saiyan transformation + Kaioken at once before (maybe he did? Been a while since I last saw Z) so it's just odd to see him being capable of pulling it off 1st time with Super Saiyan Blue. Just my thoughts tho, the episode as a whole was great. He never did it in canon, but he did during the Other World Tournament against Pikon. The episode explained why he never has, because, as explained in this episode, Kaio-ken takes an incredible toll on the body (as evident against Vegeta), and since SS is also essentially a Ki-multiplier, combining the two would theoretically, as stated in this episode, destroy Goku. The reason he used it in the Other World Tournament is because he was already dead, and also he used it together with MSS1. if i remember correctly that was a filler episode so some fans (i know i did) disregarded it as non-canon |
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| That was pretty good. I still expect Goku to pull this win out. He always does. |
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| It was nice seeing the Kaioken again at least... Hit getting stronger just like that was dumb, similar to Freezer getting on Goku's level again in a few months. Pacing is still pretty bad, I hope this arc is over soon. |
| It's 10x more epic in English, this redub is fuckin amazing. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=EdjzFDaqBJU |
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| Yeah I also wanna see Bardock... THEY SHOULD BRING HIM BACK! |
| Respect for Hit for being able to surpass even SSJ Blue. Vegeta...feel sorry for him once again, Goku is once again one step ahead of him. Too bad Vegeta can't learn Kaio-Ken. |
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| @ziggy_Z A new outtanowhere technique would've been worse than Kaio-ken. Imagine he did, instead of the amount of orgasms people are saying they had in this thread, it's be full of that many posts saying "asspull." The kaio-ken power-up without showing the training is just as much an asspull so I don't think that's a good argument. I agree it wouldn't be very good to just give him a new technique. However it would have been more entertaining to me.Edit: Before dragon ball fans poor on the defense. This was one of the better episodes of the show for sure. Just a small complaint I had. I think they could have waited to power him up again a bit longer. |
Nonchalance_Apr 19, 2016 2:23 PM
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Nonchalance said: @ziggy_Z A new outtanowhere technique would've been worse than Kaio-ken. Imagine he did, instead of the amount of orgasms people are saying they had in this thread, it's be full of that many posts saying "asspull." The kaio-ken power-up without showing the training is just as much an asspull so I don't think that's a good argument. I agree it wouldn't be very good to just give him a new technique. However it would have been more entertaining to me.Edit: Before dragon ball fans poor on the defense. This was one of the better episodes of the show for sure. Just a small complaint I had. I think they could have waited to power him up again a bit longer. It's not "just as much an asspull" because it makes sense why he never did, Toei didn't even need to explain it in the episode, because the answer they gave on why he never used Kaio-ken is the same you'd see online if it was asked last decade. The only viable time he could use it would be with SS1 against Cell and during Buu Saga, but that never happened because 1)he didn't even want to beat Cell himself, and 2)SS3 was a far greater multiplier. But I agree they should've held off on this power-up. |
ziggy_ZApr 19, 2016 7:40 PM
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ziggy_Z said: He literally says he had been working on a technique but it was still a huge risk (never showing him working on it). Then pulls out Kaio-ken, it only being more okay to you because kaio-ken existed in the past. You don't have to agree but it's just as much an asspull. Worthless power ups are not entertaining to me, not when Blue was just introduced. It makes it seem worthless. That's my reasoning for wanting it to be an actual technique instead of a power up, would have been more interesting. You say that would be an asspull but it's not like they showed him learning instant transmission really in the past. Just explained where he got it from. It all depends on how they write it in on if it works or not. Nonchalance said: @ziggy_Z The kaio-ken power-up without showing the training is just as much an asspull so I don't think that's a good argument. I agree it wouldn't be very good to just give him a new technique. However it would have been more entertaining to me. Edit: Before dragon ball fans pour on the defense. This was one of the better episodes of the show for sure. Just a small complaint I had. I think they could have waited to power him up again a bit longer. It's not "just as much an asspull" because it makes sense why he never did, Toei didn't even need to explain it in the episode, because the answer they gave on why he never used Kaio-ken is the same you'd see online if it was asked last decade. The only viable time he could use it would be with SS1 against Cell and during Buu Saga, but that never happened because 1)he didn't even want to beat Cell himself, and 2)SS3 was a far greater multiplier. But I agree they should've held off on this power-up. Either way it's fine, not like I expected that much. It's entertaining enough and was one of the better episodes to date. |
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| just rewatched with subs and MY GOD THIS IS THE BEST EPISODE SO FAR |
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| What a fantastic episode! The fight was so DBZ-like! I was very hyped or this fight and it certainly did not disappoint. This is by far (imo) the best fight in ths tournament. In fact, in entire DBS. Goku was such a badass in this episode! And that too after such a long time. It was so amazing to see him like this again. That Kaio-ken + SSJB looked so badass! And I am glad that they actually explained why Goku never used it with other SSJ forms (at least in canon). This also reiterates the fact that SSJB with God ki and the way it is achieved (With perfect ki control) is completely different from how the other tranformations have worked in DB-Universe. Hit too was badass in his own way. Yeah, he is losing now after the new technique but the way he powered up and improved his Toki-Tobashi was great. That part where he improved it to half a second and suddenly punched Goku multiple times was amazing! And I like how he isn't unnecessarily evil and does in fact acknowledge that Goku is the only one, fighting whom motivated him to improve. And he is more than a thousand years old.. (Actually Frieza acknowledged that too but whatever)   The way they showed Toki-Tobashi was great. They managed to do it well even during a fast fight scene. Cyan and Red together would indeed give gray. So I am glad they actually showed goku's hair as SSJB in Kaio-ken's aura gray and not something like purple, which would be the result if it was a darker shade of blue. Of course, it is a very small thing but it was still good to see.  About Vegeta.. Poor guy was surpassed again. Of course he'll try to bridge the gap. I hope they don't have him learn Kaio-ken. It will be interesting to see him try to cover this difference in a diferent way. Whether he is able to do so or not is a different thing altogether. And if he does, we might see a new technique of powering up (or transormation). I'd prefer the former since we have had too many transformations already.  Despite what was shown in the preview of next episode, I think Goku will emerge as the winner here (about damn time). I am hoping for a Champa vs Beerus too. Despite not being shifted to Universe 6, I think Goku and Vegeta will now have the access to the "Cube" since they are training with Whis anyways. This will allow them to go to Universe 6 freely. There's plenty to look forward to. Goku going to search for the last four-stared Super Dragon Ball. Vegeta going to Planet Sadla to meet the Saiyan King and possibly training Cabba. But the fact that he is behind Goku now makes me feel conflicted about this. I doubt he'll train Cabba when he himself has been surpassed as of right now. But yeah, both Goku and Vegeta will be away from Earth. And not only away, but in another universe (I am assuming the last Super Dragon Ball is in Universe 6). If a threat endangers Earth in the mean time, then other characters will get a chance to shine again. But if it is done, then they'll have to do it well because I wasn't a big fan of the Garlic Jr. arc in DBZ. It will also be interesting to see if Hit remains a part of the cast. Though it is unlikely, I'd love it if it happens. |
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| Hit should be flying through the next galaxy when Goku hit him with the 10xKaio-ken punch combined with SSJB in his face :O but that would break the whole show because nothing is realistic anymore >.< |
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| Wait...a DBS episode where the fight was actually good and it could even pass as a DBZ episode? Nice. I wasn't expect something like this, all the fights in DBS until now have been sub-par (or just bad) compared to the ones in DBZ, but this episode was awesome. Never expected to see Kaoiken being used ever again, i liked that. Please Toei keep things like this from now on. |
KaeUBWApr 20, 2016 5:15 AM
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| that was awesome and this is the best fight in the tournament Kaio Ken motherfucker |
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Soon in Dragon Ball Super |
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| It's really cool to see Kaio-ken again, but the explanation as to why he never used it before while in the Super Saiyan state was mighty convenient. And again, only being able to use it while he's Super Saiyan Blue was a convenient power-up. Sure, it's calm and stable, or whatever, but Toriyama needed to give Goku a sudden way to beat Hit, and this is what we got. The Vegeta and Cabba episode is still the best. |
| Super Saiyan Blue Kaio-ken 10x might already be a god annihilator! too much shouting! 5/5! |
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| I should of got my 3D glasses while watching this episode! This episode was awesome. glad they they made a call back to older episodes. the nostalgia. I actually felt hyped during the fight |
| Haha Vegeta be like "Damn he always surpassing me no matter what." Will Monaka get a turn..!?? Seems like next episode is gonna be the conclusion ... |
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| I'll be real, I definitely expected him to one shot Hit when goku went kaio-ken. Super Saiyan Blue fused with 10x kaio-Ken sure be theoretically outputting a power level far beyond what anyone in show could handle (bar the gods of destruction). Episode was still hype though, best one yet |
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| So Goku went Super Saiyan Blue then Kaio-ken x10 then punched Hit like 10 times and Hit wasn't instantly killed? Isn't that basically the equivalent of 100 Hits? Also his Kamehameha was pretty normal for the power boost and hit was inside of it perfectly fine. Still cool though. |
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Dbzfanboy said: Sunday, as per usualWhen will the episode 40 be released? pls reply ty :) |
| Oh my, I've been waiting so long for an episode like this, epic. I'm sure they didn't show Goku losing in the preview, but rather a having a comeback on Hit's side. Keeping the suspension as long as possible, not that I dislike it. |
| f*** yeah! the kaioken returns! I've been waiting for so long. always wondered why he stopped using it, now I know. preview makes me wondering.. also wished that the old DBZ soundtracks would make a comeback, the opening theme during the fight was ok, pretty sure that would be something better among the old OSTs |
thatvietnameseApr 23, 2016 2:03 PM
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| It was amazing episode and I think it's the best until now ! |
| Man, that was a real throwback. Wasn't expecting Kaio-ken to come back into things. Not too sure on the colour clash though, might've been a bit nicer if the colours merged somewhat, although I suppose it was the first time he's used them together, so that leaves room for improvement. Been a long ass time since I've heard so much screaming in just one episode though. |
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