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| So much injustice...this is the real world. This proves once again that if you have money you have everything...even justice :/ Still this is getting good, can't really wait to see how he is going to prove that he is not guilty. |
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| The thing that pisses me off the most is that half of the accusations wouldn't even be legit if the police in the anime weren't so fucking retarded. Like okay, purple haired dude says that Naruhodo is the killer and all of a sudden he's in jail. wtf. no that's not how it works. Kinda starting to see why people aren't liking this that much |
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DoranNightingale said: This anime has a few too many holes for me to overlook. Maybe the game patches these, but from what has been shown in the anime alone it is disappointing. - So, the autopsy report was changed and it turns out the victim probably had time to write the note. That still doesn't conclusively mean that the name written was that of the killer. - Nothing is to say that it was the victim who wrote the note at all, you can't complete definitive handwriting analysis on a note written using fingerpainting in blood. - I don't know for certain how courts work, but I'm pretty sure pulling random items of out of your pockets in the courtroom doesn't made them admissible evidence. - Naruhodo is lucky the prosecution's witnesses have even less of a clue than he does. They snap before anything directly incriminating is even confirmed. Naruhodo being arrested I can understand because American-wannabe has influence, but surely the system isn't so backwards that Mayoi is immediately released. What about the 'case' against her, why must there only be one killer? They were both at the scene. Surely she is still a suspect? - Sure, the evidence is weak by itself, but April's testimony helps it. - ^ - Phoenix handles evidence just as carelessly in the game. >.> I guess you can get used to it if you don't actually see him pulling it out of his pocket... - April doesn't incriminate herself of phone-tapping in the game, but yes, if she'd just called the murder weapon a statue, things would have gone very differently. |
| I liked how in the hypothetical "Maya kills Mia" scenario, she hits her with the wrong end, in a way that it makes no sense for The Thinker to tell the time. A neat little touch to emphasize how stupid that theory is. Xushu said: They cut a lot including the moment when Redd White punched Phoenix. This. I was so hype for that too, it was such a shocking moment when i first played the game. It was like a huge fuck you to Wright. He has money, so he can do whatever he wants, and the only way you can even hope to stop him is by defeating him in a court of law. I mean, i guess he ended up being kind of a dirtbag here, but not nearly as much of an asshole as he was in the games. What a letdown. hedla12 said: L-Ryoshi said: Nah, I meant the fact that all these lawyers were allowed to be threatened to work or not work on the whims of rich and corrupt people. I am not from Japan, but in my country rich people can do nasty things like bribing the judge so the case works in favor of them. Usually they do this by prolonging the case, so the other party (let's say, a really poor person) will not have the money to pay their attorney and other fees. They can also pay the other party's attorney to make them lose. From what i hear, apparently corrupt judges seem to be the norm in Japan, and get the most promotions and stuff. Also, i've heard that it's extremely common for Judges and Prosecutors to talk shit about defense attorneys all the time, and that defense attorneys are pretty much jokes over there. If all that i hear is true, then Ace Attorney's justice system might be fairer than Japan's actual justice system. Let that sink in for a second. Whoahoho said: I'm no lawyer, but this anime makes Japan's legal system look stupid. It kinda is. The whole point of the Ace Attorney videogames are to spoof Japan's incredibly unfair legal system, in which bribed judges are basically the norm and defense attorneys are a joke. The best defense attorneys in Japan can count their victories in one hand. In fact, in certain aspects, Ace Attorney's legal system is actually fairer than Japan's actual legal system. EDIT: Have some hot sauce: http://www.japantimes.co.jp/news/2014/04/30/national/crime-legal/ex-judge-lifts-lid-japans-corrupt-judicial-system/#.VxA4mvkrLcs |
GhostofSide6Apr 16, 2016 11:09 PM
| "Now you have your answer. That's Fire Bomber. We don't know their past or future... they're just here. That's all there is." - Akiko Lips |
| Its adaptation is so fucking shit its painful to watch. Its half-assed in every way and they pretty much made no attempt to actually ADAPT the work, instead of copy pasting select scenes and lines from the game, which absolutely does not work and comes off way more silly than intended. This is like watching a let's play. Except that Ace Attorney games have better art than this. This is nothing more than a cheap marketing trick for next game. 2/5 |
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| It's really hard to believe that the Japan justice system is THIS bad because I'm just like, "Seriously? This is fucking stupid! Where's the common sense?" the whole episode. It's ridiculous. There's probably a shit ton of innocent people in Japan's prisons if this is true. Not to mention that just watching this is hard because everything they're doing wouldn't be allowed in my country, especially on the lawyer's side too because breaking in and stealing evidence without a warrant is against the law itself so the evidence would be thrown out immediately anyway because who's to say that it wasn't planted by them? Why does everyone just take each other's word? Why aren't the witnesses like, "How can you prove that's mine?" if fingerprint tests weren't even done. There's just so many flaws. Like how the fuck did that witness even hear the 'clockwork' anyway if she was in another building across the street or whatever and both windows to the buildings were closed? How about that argument? I'm just really worked up and need to step away from the computer... |
kurapikasass said: It's really hard to believe that the Japan justice system is THIS bad because I'm just like, "Seriously? This is fucking stupid! Where's the common sense?" the whole episode. It's ridiculous. There's probably a shit ton of innocent people in Japan's prisons if this is true. Not to mention that just watching this is hard because everything they're doing wouldn't be allowed in my country, especially on the lawyer's side too because breaking in and stealing evidence without a warrant is against the law itself so the evidence would be thrown out immediately anyway because who's to say that it wasn't planted by them? Why does everyone just take each other's word? Why aren't the witnesses like, "How can you prove that's mine?" if fingerprint tests weren't even done. There's just so many flaws. Like how the fuck did that witness even hear the 'clockwork' anyway if she was in another building across the street or whatever and both windows to the buildings were closed? How about that argument? I'm just really worked up and need to step away from the computer... Ace Attorney is not based on a specific legal system. Its a fictional world with its own absurd court system. But its main purpose is to parody the court system of japan and its absurdly high conviction rate. But it is not modeled after japanese courts or anything. The court room system in ace attorney is pretty much a tool to solve the mystery. Its no different than a detective explaining why a culprit is a culprit in detective novels. Its simply there so the mc can present every single thing he found out or thought through during investigation. Its not a legal drama. Its a mystery adventure. That's like complaining that cooking in Shokugeki no Soma is not realistic. |
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| This episode seemed really rushed. |
Rocksterrock said: No it's just Dick Gumshoe being a dick. He hated Wright at first because he gaydolized Miles Edgeworth. The story and investigations actually flowed better in the game, in anime they tried to push like 2 episodes into 1. So yeah there are plot holes and more explanations needed. I too admit that this whole episode was a mess.The thing that pisses me off the most is that half of the accusations wouldn't even be legit if the police in the anime weren't so fucking retarded. Like okay, purple haired dude says that Naruhodo is the killer and all of a sudden he's in jail. wtf. no that's not how it works. Kinda starting to see why people aren't liking this that much |
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| Ha ha ha ha nigga this is fucking painful to watch I don't even wanna know what it feels like for the people who've played the games Helenus said: Yeah, this bothers me tooThey changed the names in the subtitles, right? Absurd decision. They say the names in Japanese (e.g. Naruhodo) and the subtitles are English (Wright) -.- So much for continuity. I've been watching it on kissanime so far but I'm probably gonna switch to animeseason since they uploaded a fansubbed version where they use the Japanese names there instead of Crunchytroll's localized version |
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| Haven't played the games. Still watching and going to watch a few more episodes. I don't like that it is too much comedy and made like a battle when they battle each other with "objection". Also I don't like the judicial system. (For example being able to just present new evidence without announcing it first so the other party would know about it. Also detective arresting the main char just because the big comany boss says so - okay he is supposed to have control over police by blackmailing/bribing them. Might because of that.) But somehow it still feels "cool" and I want to know about the overall conspiracy and that company and the "big guy" that wants to blame the main char now. |
| this is actually the shittiest show I've watched in a while and the only reason I haven't dropped it is because there's so much fucking cringe it's hilarious. |
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| Reiji is aggressive but seeing Naruhudu is impressive. A good episode all together |
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| It really hurts to say this, but... THIS ANIME JUST DOESN'T WORK!.... There I said it T.T Couple of things that bother me: - In the games there was NEVER any real suspense-breaking humor. - They rush it way too much. - They have some music of the games. Just not the real good, classic ones like for example Testimony ~ Allegro 2001 https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=R7aa1Dkr_1Q Dick Gumshoe ~ It's Detective Gumshoe https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=HHV9UymO5Hk Pursuit ~ Cornered https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Y3R8tkvlAlk The music played a huge roll at making the game so damn enjoyable. - The court battles don't feel as fierce as in the games. It just doesn't work this way, they really screwed it up (even though I thought episode 2 was very good). I also feel like the English dub will actually be better for the American/European/Australian fans. |
MelvinuApr 17, 2016 7:49 AM
| This was a complete disaster. Despite how old the VN is, it's so much better than this joke. Edgeworth's (Mitsurugi) face was all wrong too. This is how it's supposed to be |
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| After the 2nd episode I thought it could get better. But this one was pure pain. It's straight up dumb, the humor still doesn't work, the execution is too game-like, the pacing is bad. It fails in every way to be not a good, but at least an enjoyable mediocre anime. This is my first drop this season. |
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Fai said: kurapikasass said: It's really hard to believe that the Japan justice system is THIS bad because I'm just like, "Seriously? This is fucking stupid! Where's the common sense?" the whole episode. It's ridiculous. There's probably a shit ton of innocent people in Japan's prisons if this is true. Not to mention that just watching this is hard because everything they're doing wouldn't be allowed in my country, especially on the lawyer's side too because breaking in and stealing evidence without a warrant is against the law itself so the evidence would be thrown out immediately anyway because who's to say that it wasn't planted by them? Why does everyone just take each other's word? Why aren't the witnesses like, "How can you prove that's mine?" if fingerprint tests weren't even done. There's just so many flaws. Like how the fuck did that witness even hear the 'clockwork' anyway if she was in another building across the street or whatever and both windows to the buildings were closed? How about that argument? I'm just really worked up and need to step away from the computer... Ace Attorney is not based on a specific legal system. Its a fictional world with its own absurd court system. But its main purpose is to parody the court system of japan and its absurdly high conviction rate. But it is not modeled after japanese courts or anything. The court room system in ace attorney is pretty much a tool to solve the mystery. Its no different than a detective explaining why a culprit is a culprit in detective novels. Its simply there so the mc can present every single thing he found out or thought through during investigation. Its not a legal drama. Its a mystery adventure. That's like complaining that cooking in Shokugeki no Soma is not realistic. See, that makes a little more sense. Someone told me it was based on Japan's justice system but having it be a parody makes it a little better. That doesn't mean it still wasn't hard to watch though. |
| Redd White or Bluecorp, wearing a pink tux with purple hair....can we call him Rainbow man, or Skittles man instead? :P The humour isn't as good as it should be, but I wouldn't say that it's bad though. With the quick pacing, I do feel that certain more important scenes might get the chop. Despite that, this episode was decent, and the animation is slowly getting better. At least the background detailing is good. =) |
SHiNRei_YaGaMi said: Rocksterrock said: No it's just Dick Gumshoe being a dick. He hated Wright at first because he gaydolized Miles Edgeworth. The story and investigations actually flowed better in the game, in anime they tried to push like 2 episodes into 1. So yeah there are plot holes and more explanations needed. I too admit that this whole episode was a mess.The thing that pisses me off the most is that half of the accusations wouldn't even be legit if the police in the anime weren't so fucking retarded. Like okay, purple haired dude says that Naruhodo is the killer and all of a sudden he's in jail. wtf. no that's not how it works. Kinda starting to see why people aren't liking this that much Then maybe I should just get on playing the games. I like the ideas in this show but the execution is really poor at times. |
Tokoya said: adapatations are not supposed to be carbon copies of source materials and until the anime community in general can accept that and judge an anime based on what it presents and how they handle every episode, these threads will continue to be filled with hate posts by purists |
| It was a nice episode, good ost! I'm liking that they are doing the anime with elements from the game, that's cool. Yep, I see that they are too fast sometimes, but despite that, the episode was great. |
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| Finally, the Pursuit theme played. |
| Right when I was about to dislike it a lot less, they did something stupid again... Sure Naruhodo did it, the lawyer who showed up after the sister... |
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| 90% of the problems that I have seen people find and complain about it, have been created by anime adaptation. Just playing it (NDS, android emulator, PC emulator) automatically would answer many of these issues. You're not wrong to feel displeased watching this, even I am. But you're wrong to think that all of these roles are from the original work (games/VN). |
| - The format of this show lends itself to dues ex machina after dues ex machina in the courtroom. "Here's evidence x that is totally not known by anyone for some reason and completely changes everything" -The logic is absurd. "I object! Because I disagree with what the witness is saying! Cuz that's what objections are for!" "We have a new suspect? Well, guess we need to release the old suspect. Cuz that's how it works, right?" - The drama is laughable "You, policeman! Yes, the one who just busted in my door for no reason! Arrest this man! Cuz reasons!" Add to that this whole murder case is revolving around a character's death that no one cares about because we've known her for exactly one episode. I forget her name, and don't even know her relationship to the main character. 2/5 lmao |
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Piromysl said: I see it is quite easy to frame someone for murder in anime. How can they arrest someone just because some big shot(though he has considerable amount of power) says so? They need some evidence(atleast fabricated ones). Phoenix being being a lawyer, how did he agree to be arrested without any evidence or warrant? And I hear that evidence and testimony is getting rushed. Hope they pace it properly. Was expecting a Suits type of series, so disappointed.(Hadn't played the game so didn't know what I was getting into) |
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| It was good to see Edgeworth on the hot seat for once. Poor Gumshoe. This is the first of many "evaluations" he will having xD The anime really glossed over May's part in the story and I have to say I don't mind at all. She wasn't that interesting in the games either. While the courtroom scenes are decent, I still prefer the out-of-courtroom scenes. I just find them so much more interesting. |
| From these 3 episodes I can conclude that trial scene was really bad adaptation, but investigation scene was okay. |
HiatusXHiatus said: From these 3 episodes I can conclude that trial scene was really bad adaptation, but investigation scene was okay. This... I Ironically enjoy the investigation despite how much rush it is. But the trial is really makes me cringe. |
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Arikado- said: 90% of the problems that I have seen people find and complain about it, have been created by anime adaptation. Just playing it (NDS, android emulator, PC emulator) automatically would answer many of these issues. You're not wrong to feel displeased watching this, even I am. But you're wrong to think that all of these roles are from the original work (games/VN). That doesn't make the anime itself any better and an adapted series must be able to stand on its own legs without the source material. Yes, the problems probably exclusive to the anime, but they exist regardless. And the fact that these problems are nonexistent in the games or visual novel, won't wash them away. I shouldn't need other media to answer issues which shouldn't be there anyways. If I do need, than those were adapted badly. |
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| It has been a good watch so far, I have played the games and it is sure a joy to see this adaptation, outside the OP. |
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| Mayoi/Maya is as perfect as ever. Aoi Yuuki is a goddess. |
| I guess theyre trying to cover the whole first game in the series thats why everything is so fast paced :/ well I kindda understand it but is still a shame |
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Man, and here I thought Danganronpa was bad with the art and animation... What a joke. |
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| Great episode. It's fun how they draw they game emotions in the anime show. |
| Quality Engrish this episode. WHATCHER NAAAAAAME |
| MAL: A community that thinks every anime is bad, but rates everything a 7/10. |
| I've not played the game yet, but as I watched past these 3 episodes I feel that this anime added a "game theme" style to it. Which is cool and all, but it's starting to feel weird, especially in an anime. Because in an anime there are no limited options, and this makes the characters seem like they have no common sense! I have a feeling that playing the game is gonna be WAY more enjoyable. Just a feeling. |
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| I can't believe this shit, he told the police that Ryuuichi is the killer and they believed it and freed Mayoi......... |
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| The shit pacing is ruining it. At least I enjoy it since I m a fan of the games but its a shame such a good story is being so mistreated. It looks really meh too. |
| Very good episode,but there was absolutely no logic in the MC being arrested, thry had literally no evidence. |
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