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Apr 15, 2016 10:49 AM

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Trollsenpai said:
DragonSlayer_19 said:

he didn't anticipate they'd search his house again within just a few days + there is no better place to hide it than at the back of the portrait because no real MP would dare touch it ( in other words the mp can search every inch of the house except the portrait so the portarait is the best place ) gordon knew that no matter how many times they come and search they won't find it cause each time the real mp won't dare to touch the portrait . But this didn't happen when they sent imposter mp ( aka the trained spies ) who knew that it would possibly be behind the portrait but were just waiting for sakuma to realize it and give them the command.
Yes I figured out that much, but remember how that chief guy with the cane & glove (Fk I forgot his name) kept on saying on episode 1 that if a spy is suspected it's the end for him, so I don't believe that the american spy dude would let the evidence there because he thinks they will not come search again, one has got to be prepared for the worse, after he was suspected it's only natural for him to take even more precaution, but keeping it on the same hiding place in his home ? that's a bit dumb, then again I'm no spy expert so I wouldn't know

maybe he did expect the MP to search his house again, after all he is a foreigner living in japan in a time of war, so it's only natural to be suspected. I think that the american didn't change the hiding place because he knew that no one will touch the emperor's portrait, no matter how many times they search his house. Also he was in a tough spot. He was being tailed, remember the photos of him were taken while he was in his house, so whatever move he made would raise suspicion.
Just some random thoughts on this matter. But hey, i know jack shit about spies ¬‿¬

Apr 15, 2016 1:23 PM
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I'm really enjoying this anime :D

In this episode I liked how Sakuma managed to figure everything out. Also, I am glad that he didn't have to kill himself (given how the previous episode ended I seriously thought that he was going to commit the harakiri XD)
Apr 15, 2016 10:40 PM

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I have to say, Sakuma really redeemed himself this episode. He made so many mistakes and was literally just a pawn in the first episode, but he managed to figure everything out in the 2nd episode. I feel like his fuck ups were just part of his character development and to push for him to not just be a pawn.
Apr 15, 2016 10:41 PM

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Sakuma is already getting some great character development! ~
Apr 16, 2016 5:29 AM
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OOOHHH that was nice. Seems like Sakuma is quite perceptive as well if he needs to. Also I'm wondering what the final monologue really meant. He could have been saying that above both groups, soldiers and spies, basically. Sakuma probably was talking about the life as a soldier but that fact won't change much for the life of a spy.
Apr 16, 2016 7:20 AM

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I am really digging this anime. They're carrying through this theme of spies quite well and it does get quite thrilling when it needs to. Here's hoping they are able to continue this way.
Apr 17, 2016 2:58 AM

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This series so far hasn't touched much of the politics in WW2, especially that of Imperial Japan in East Asia. So far it has done a recent job at portraying that era as neutrally as possible (which some might take offense). Let's see if this can continue to play that fine balance or reveal more subtle rhetoric instead.
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Apr 17, 2016 8:16 AM

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pretending to be a handicap, (excluding the fake hand) that's a low one:P
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Apr 17, 2016 12:53 PM

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Interesting episode, Mutou has no choice but to work with them

Apr 18, 2016 4:52 AM

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Wings said:
pretending to be a handicap, (excluding the fake hand) that's a low one:P

there's no such thing as fair game when we're talking about war and power

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Apr 19, 2016 3:18 PM
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This shit fucked up my mind XD. Really interesting tho.
Apr 24, 2016 6:23 PM

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Okay episode I guess... I didn't pay much attention tbh.
Apr 25, 2016 5:22 PM

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Would've been more interesting had Sakuma, or more preferably some Army man actually died and then have D Agency use the known subterfuge actions to their advantage of turning American-san into a double agent or whatever.
Apr 27, 2016 8:12 PM

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Pretty interesting secondary plot with the conspiracy behind the second raid. It seems like this guy is being trained, even if he isn't one of them.
Apr 30, 2016 2:56 AM

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Stark700 said:

There's definitely some war propaganda going on in this series now.

Cejara said:
It's just annoying to see all the Japanese pro-war propaganda in it. It seems like some scenes are almost trying to romanticize it.

Already two out of five comments stating this and I can't see why. I'm certainly dumb because I thought this was an inner-conflict that was being portrayed here. And where are the depictions of the beautiful period it was?
The former superior of the hero is shown as an egoist ready to blame other people supposed to work toward the same goal as him (Japanese supremacy) in order to erase his own lack of efficiency.
The D Agency chief seeks funding through secret pressure.
The military corp is presented as blinded with the country's ideology, this propaganda even going against their own obligations. (in other words, the way the people were "reduced to slaves" by their country is an handicap for the country)
The hero himself is at first someone who can't think above what was being taught to him and is ready to spoil his own life when it is absolutely useless and groundless.

The hidden agendas, the way Satsuma begins to think, almost everything was good, but I would have prefer a double-length episode than recycling the end of the first one in the second one.
I see where it could go: the hero, now starting to be aware of the truths around him, will slowly become more "independant" while still willing to serve his country's interest. (less blind than before) Without being as jaded as the spies in the Aency.
I hope there will be a hint of an international affaire at least toward the end of this story. (I know it is only the introduction novel in a trilogy but maybe?)

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May 1, 2016 6:29 AM

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Sakuma really wised up this episode, that was thoroughly enjoyable to see the more deductive side of him. Once he cast aside one dimensional loyalty to the emperor and started thinking outside of the box, it's like all of the answers started to flow in towards him.

I really have no idea how people are confusing historical fiction with propaganda. The Japanese nationalism is through the roof because that's what it was really like back then. The emperor was literally worshiped like a god, the kamikaze attacks on Pearl Harbor were a byproduct of that intense loyalty and devotion. If anything, this show is deconstructing the overzealous patriotism since D-Agency has already established that its purpose is not for the nation, the leaders, or the people.
May 5, 2016 11:29 PM

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I'm so impressed with the seriousness of this show!
May 26, 2016 4:23 AM

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Great episode. I like how the show keeps you guessing things, and it's not predictable what's gonna happen.
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Jun 3, 2016 4:25 AM
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Episode 2 information (2016-04-12)

Script: Kishimoto Taku
Storyboard: Nomura Kazuya
Episode director: Asura Junshi
Animation supervisor: Nakamura Miyuki

Key animator
Nakamura Miyuki Kobashi Hiroyuki Shikibu Miyoko Takeuchi Chikai Nakayama Tomoyo Kasuga Hiroko Murayama Akiko Ninomiya Takeshi Nagashima Akiko Yamamoto Yuko Hariba Yuko Watabe Yukiko Tanaka Kouhei Furukawa Ryota Kamiya Miyako Tsunoda Keiichi Ikai Kazuyuki

2nd key animator
Kuwashima Nozomu Morita Chiyo Tsusaka Mio Yamaguchi Asuka
Jul 1, 2016 5:51 AM

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Of course Sakuma wouldn't be killed off in only the 2nd episode but it was still thrilling to see how he would get out of that hara-kiri situation! Looking forward to more!
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Jul 3, 2016 3:44 PM

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Watched the 1st episode 2 months ago, now i'm confused as fuk
Jul 23, 2016 12:01 PM
Jul 29, 2016 11:18 AM

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I'm actually enjoying this anime more than I thought I would when I first started watching it~
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Aug 2, 2016 1:31 PM

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A quite slower episode... but well nice events! Let's see what's next.
Aug 28, 2016 4:49 PM

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You have to look behind everything when you are looking for a hiding place, even if it's behind your most precious thing.
May 21, 2017 9:56 PM

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Another good episode. As a Yu-Gi-Oh! fan, I dislike Yuuki getting one over Mutou.
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