Re:ZERO -Starting Life in Another World- (light novel)
How do you rate Subaru's intelligence?
| Abother complaint is how his actions it is weird how his actions never show any sign of him being a introvert even though he proclaims himself a neet hikkikomori |
gabrielrroiz said: Abother complaint is how his actions it is weird how his actions never show any sign of him being a introvert even though he proclaims himself a neet hikkikomori Just because you stay indoors doesn't mean you're socially incompetent. The author is a hikikomori and he wrote this after all. |
| It's difficult to like completely dumb MCs as well as MCs that are made to be thought as intelligent when they are not. It's easy to neither like a coward of an MC nor an unreasonable MC who would put himself in danger unnecessarily. It's difficult to root for Over Powered MCs as well unless for a reason or think highly of a complete wuss of an MC. It's also easy to neither admire an MC of too much sense of righteousness nor a selfish MC. I dunno what applies to Subaru at this point. I have not seen MCs like him. In fact, it's pretty hard to find an MC like him who seem to possess all the negative traits, amazingly of the polar opposites of the character traits from one scene to another (too positive ones that tend to be seen as negative). It's been 3 episodes yet I dunno whether he is completely dumb or actually very intelligent, whether he is only a coward or would put himself in harms way overcoming fear, whether he is selfish or have sense of righteousness, whether he can hold fort on his own or just die from a knife held by a random mugger. I seriously dunno. One good thing I noticed is that though that he seems to be a bit perplexed after he restarts from zero (in front of the appa store) every time but as he restarts, he retains knowledge from the past and acts upon it with the little time, resources and clues he has. I also noticed one thing though, the more time he has restarted the more he has tended to have gotten smarter which seems like a plus at this point. Overall, I can say I don't dislike the MC at this point. |
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| Rather than developing... we'd probably seeing him falling to despair... well you know... this anime revolves around the concept of dying over and over again. Though I can't believe people are complaining about Subaru's "idiocy". He thought the first loop was a bad hallucination, the second loop was still feeling uncertain, and finally third loop he realized it. If I were in his position, I think I'd also think it as a bad dream or hallucination of my chuunibyouness. Since you won't really believe that you just had been killed 3 seconds ago. P.S. I totally love the references in this thread lol. Karen Page from Daredevil, Batman, Potato GLaDOS from Portal, and of course our messiah Hououin Kyouma |
DarklordVorApr 11, 2016 12:15 AM
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| I don't think this thread is necessary but at least it will episodic discussion threads will be clean. DarklordVor said: Rather than developing... we'd probably seeing him falling to despair... well you know... this anime revolves around the concept of dying over and over again. According to be who have read the WN he does develop, half of the 3rd Arc is basically about that. Despite how might look at first this story is actually a traditional hero's journey, it's only that Subaru has go through much harsher trails than most heroes do. Guts from Berserk is probably the only character compared to what he has go through to save people important and himself. He comes out the better for it though. |
Iron_MawApr 11, 2016 12:24 AM
Jagd84 said: I don't think this thread is necessary but at least it will episodic discussion threads will be clean. DarklordVor said: Rather than developing... we'd probably seeing him falling to despair... well you know... this anime revolves around the concept of dying over and over again. According to be who have read the WN he does develop, half of the 3rd Arc is basically about that. Despite how might look at first this story is actually a traditional hero's journey, it's only that Subaru has go through much harsher trails than most heroes do. Guts from Berserk is probably the only character compared to what he has go through to save people important and himself. He comes out the better for it though. |
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| I know that, my point is that he eventually overcomes his difficulties. Basically there is point to his struggles. |
Iron_MawApr 11, 2016 3:18 AM
| Literally everyone who already complains about the MC here is being a wannabe smartass. That has been annoying me to no end. |
| If the synopsis hasn't given it away, I'm sure people will be just as confuse as Subaru was when he reset. It could've been a dream or hallucination. |
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| TOO FUCKING EARLY FOR THIS KIND OF THREADS |
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| Genre savvyness has nothing to do rationality. I wish people would understand this. The very first episode spent 5 minutes showing hop pointless his pop fantasy culture knowledge so any he should have known he was looping because of that seems completely missed the point of that part. And literally only took a few hours to figure it out (the 2nd iteration ended in the afternoon and third one came to and end in the morning just after he found Satella again) and he never retraced an of his steps beyond one or two points (he spent entirety of the 2nd loop in warehouse and most of 3rd with Satella). Furthermore if you going through what Subaru and automatically realize your looping the first time instead of thinking whole as deja vu or a bad dream you might problems telling fantasy apart from reality to begin with. It's not something a sane people would believe without proof, at least when he was transported to fantasy world it was something he could perceive due all the Lizard people and whatnot running around. |
Iron_MawMay 9, 2016 3:00 PM
| So people dislike him ? He seemed like a likeable guy to me though . |
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| Well I like Subaru. It's great to have this kind of main characters every now and then, who will develop and grow over the time. He's not completely "useless" since he knows lots of stuff about alternative worlds (doesn't matter if it's just because he's played much), and also he isn't shocked or anything even he's in a weird world. Also normally people would just turn their backs to Satella (or whatever her name is atm), because they don't know her and therefor don't wanna suffer over something she lost. So Subaru is very kind and capable. |
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| As someone who has went (watched let's plays) through impossible mario hacks and spam abusing save states, I really can't complain. Subaru isn't either dumb nor smart, just average. Sadly he hasn't seen anything yet. everything he's been through at this point (episode 6) is just the tip of the madness. he'll experience the same hysteria we went through. unsurprisingly all players have completely stopped goofing around the game and all concentration is given. after that, over 90% of the players found more interesting abuse techniques aside from save state which is really surprising even for me. sadly not all hack authors are doing it correctly and are out of style. especially spamming invi coin blocks just to fuck your jump at every possible means. some do it better, and some do it devilishly clever. honorable mention goes to https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=_hrO2kOZ5ng (skip to 1:50) |
| >I had no brain when I was 12 >Then everyone must had no brain when they were 12 >I experimented 100 samples and proved that they had no brain when they were 12 >Therefore children cannot consent This is what science has done to humanity. |
| I think he plays his role as the MC well. He isn't near-perfect like a certain beater that woos every girl in the world by being overpowered. Favorite anime male MC in a while. I like how he shocks me with his innocent responses, even though he makes you think he will say something super perverted or selfish, it comes out as completely innocent and simple. Love it! |
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