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Apr 7, 2016 6:25 PM
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The idea is kabaneri are mindless idiots, there is more than one conductor,and it takes over 24 hours to 72(3 days exactly) for them to completely change.

Which is why people that get bit are exposed during the inspection.


Have you read the manga or something? I thought it wasn't out yet. (that's what it says on mal anyway) Well assuming it takes 1-3 days to turn, wtf was the scene with the mc all about then? He turned in like 2 minutes tops. And having more than one conductor doesn't matter, if the train was infested, it's likely that everyone inside would die, as they did. (really not sure how multiple operators is relevant tbh)


The MC didn't turn the virus was just entering his body, it takes a while for them to fully turn. And we just saw what happens when a member of the train gets effected, they kill themselves to prevent any problems, and the other workers are quick to turn on them.
 
Apr 7, 2016 6:26 PM

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I think you're mixing up animation with art. They choose to make the art style look more like 90s anime.


Oh yeah the art, not animation. Why would they choose a 90s art style? Is this for the nostalgia effect? They should appeal more the SNK fans and made it look more modern.

they did a more traditional artstyle in a modernistic way. I think it worked well, but not all artstyles appeal to everyone though. SnK was the same.
 
Apr 7, 2016 6:26 PM
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The train breakthrough and the MC stoping the virus were really bad done.

This isn't even like SnK where they were at peace for 100 years, they literally said that another station was just destroyed, it makes no fucking sense for them to not be careful.


You've got to be joking, both scenes where amazing intense and well done.
No one ever expected the kabane to hijack a train and the workers where just following the schedule.
 
Apr 7, 2016 6:27 PM

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That was great! Really got me pumped up and I really like the MC. Plus this series is dark af.

Reminds me of Snowpiercer.
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Apr 7, 2016 6:32 PM

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Has the potential to be the most overrated thing of the season and maybe of 2016. Nice looking frames though, will probably be filled with fucktons of stills later on.


Attack on Steampunk Ghouls, though. Will give 3 episode rule.
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Apr 7, 2016 6:37 PM

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I want to like the show. But I'm so over the "zombie apocalypse" wave. It's like they go in cycles. The last phase was the Vampire" phase. Twilight ruined that phase.

And i also get why people call this Snk season 2. pre-electronic age fortress enclaves of humans trying to survive but getting raided by mindless hordes of monsters. A screaming whiny teenage brat protagonist trying to "save the world" and taking moral high ground against scared shitless mob mentality soldiers. Infected by the same thing that's trying to kill the humans, but miraculously survives. it'll be a copycat bonus if he then gets special powers from his infection

It's not fair to get totally into nitpicking the plot. Because i know it''s my apathy towards zombie genre shows that's driving it.

So if you like, that's cool.

But if you don't really like it, I understand also, I'm sort of in the same boat.
 
Apr 7, 2016 6:39 PM

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If the train doesn't slow down, it makes no difference either way. Right? Right?


If a driving train doesn't fall into the river but instead bulge right into the city, it will only prove bigger plot hole.


For the record, I got what you mean. But if I post a link, hinting it is nonetheless possible, can we just end the nitpicking on subjects we are educated as the next ape on the branch :)

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Apr 7, 2016 6:49 PM

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Attack on Titan with trains and zombies. Ok.

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The lengendary Araki Tetsurou, director of many good animes (Attack on Titan, Death Note, Guilty Crown) does not disappoint. What a masterpiece! Amazing visuals, sounds, music, potential plot. 10/10 for first episode.
 
Apr 7, 2016 6:50 PM

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I don't see anything wrong with the pictures above.


No salts here. Just stating the pudding. In open broad daylight, they make a train stop to make sure it's safe and even inspect the people on board stark naked for injuries and in the darkness of night, they lower the bridge to let it in without a second thought when the train was not even on sight. You may justify with the dumb nobody who lowered the bridge though but yeah, there was his superior giving instructions as well.

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You must be the one who gave 3 out of 5 right? Huh.


If that is difficult to figure it out when I said my initial impression was a 6.5/10 then it will be difficult for you to fathom the two pictures I posted to rationalize.


ur forgetting that the first train arrived off schedule but the second one was on time
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Apr 7, 2016 7:03 PM

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This first episode was pure hype and adrenaline which was exactly what I wanted from this anime. I hope the rest of the episodes are just as good as this one, if not better.
 
Apr 7, 2016 7:04 PM
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Looks okay. Probably one of the better anime this season, at least.



Eren.
 
Apr 7, 2016 7:09 PM

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HOLY SHIT! this show is going places.


COME AT ME BRO!
 
Apr 7, 2016 7:12 PM

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Holy shit, now I see why this was so hyped up, that was fucking incredible!
 
Apr 7, 2016 7:13 PM

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Edgy teenage anti-authority trash. The main character comes off as a whiny bitch. Seriously.
"Don't put the guy who might be a zombie into jail! Why? Because that would mean that we were living under a system of fear! There is no possible way that this system was put into place because the masses don't want anybody who might possibly be infected to be allowed into society!"
On top of that, the way he jumped in front of the soldiers, yelling at them to not throw their comrade in jail, is both nonsensical and hugely disrespectful in context. Those soldiers have been out in the wilderness, protecting that train and fighting the zombies (Kabane... sigh...). Those soldiers know that guy and the threat he represents way better than the protagonist. The fact that they even have the respect to throw their comrade in jail as opposed to putting a bullet in his head speaks massively in favor of the honor and intricacies of the authorities involved. Of course, the protagonist is immediately justified by the show, as the marked man is killed in a way that is indicative of him not being infected, and that automatically makes the authorities cowardly and evil. Typical teenage edgy trash.

I know, I know, Attack on Titan ripoffs are all Wit Studio is doing these day. But Attack on Titan was more subtle than this and Owari no Seraph had a more immediately interesting cast of characters, generic as they were. It seems that Wit Studio anime are going the way of Western Young Adult novels.
What Kabaneri Did Wrong:
- Edgelord protagonist
- Special snowflake girlfriend
- Giving humans powers
- Failing to create a unique/memorable setting

What Kabaneri Did Right:
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Apr 7, 2016 7:17 PM
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IT WAS SOOOOOOO SOOOOOOO GOOD! I love that there's a play on colors rather than staying at just one tone then mixed with the savageness of the Kabanes.

This show is insanely satisfying and that was just the first episode.
 
Apr 7, 2016 7:20 PM
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Looking how Mumei easily kill a kabaneri only by chooping it's head, kinda make Ikoma's steam gun practically redundant. Also from the ED visual it's show how easy to pierce kabaneri heart with a spear, but it's by Mumei again so maybe because it's her that making it looks so easy idk.

Anyway, despite of the many flaws it only the first episode so I don't really mind so I'm sure going to watch the next episode
 
Apr 7, 2016 7:24 PM

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Pretty nice I think. Music is godlike, sasuga Sawano-sama. Props to EGOIST too.

The last scene with Ikoma was awesome.
 
Apr 7, 2016 7:39 PM
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THIS IS IT. THIS IS THE PINNACLE MOTHERFUCKERS. IM TALKING SNORTING 8 BALLS OF COLUMBIAN BAM BAM WHILE FUCKIN A KATANA SHOE WEARING BITCH ON A BULLET TRAIN WITH FLESH DEAMONS CLIMBING UP THE SIDES. ANIME IS SAVED ANIME IS SAVVED!!!!!!
no seriously guys if you like action shows, this was neat.
 
Apr 7, 2016 7:40 PM

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Easily the best production value of the season like I expected...This episode was great

So far I love the setting and the way they presented the state that society is in as well as to giving a decent introduction to the Kabane

The characters so far were impressive and especially the MC whom is literally what Eren should have been like. He's intelligent, a quick thinker, he's driven, kind, focused, he's serious about his goals and most of all he speaks his mind no filters included.

The main girl is a fucking badass and I almost came when she just kicked that Kabane's head clean off....I'm very curious to learn more about her because her personality is great and her story seems so interesting right now....I'm glad that she isn't stoic too

In short, I really like how they presented this world and the threat and resulting fear of the Kabane and seeing how much precautions that they take is a nice touch

This station that they are at is pretty much fucked though lol....I hope that those cunts that killed that innocent man plus the royalty guy gets killed in the next episode....OST is epic as per everything Sawano does and the visuals were really really good

With this, my Top 5 most anticipated of this season are all confirmed to be really good like I as hoping :D
 
Apr 7, 2016 7:43 PM

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Holy hell that was legit.
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Apr 7, 2016 7:45 PM

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Great action packed episode.
I'm liking the Mc, and Kabane looks more scary than Titans.
Only problem was that Rip quality. It totally sucked.
8/10
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Edgy teenage anti-authority trash. The main character comes off as a whiny bitch. Seriously.
"Don't put the guy who might be a zombie into jail


He wanted him put in jail. They were just going to kill him.

Lots of stupid problems with the show, like them not just throwing him in jail rather than a really poorly made scene of them wanting to randomly murder someone just to show how awesome of character the protagonist is.

If a little girl with a shoe can wipe them out, a warrior with armor and sword wouldn't even be threatened. Why are these people running? Why if there is so much danger are they so lax with train security? Yeah the animation is great, but this is a seriously brain dead show.
 
Apr 7, 2016 7:48 PM

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Sokah said:
Horatio_Nelson said:
Edgy teenage anti-authority trash. The main character comes off as a whiny bitch. Seriously.
"Don't put the guy who might be a zombie into jail


He wanted him put in jail. They were just going to kill him.

Lots of stupid problems with the show, like them not just throwing him in jail rather than a really poorly made scene of them wanting to randomly murder someone just to show how awesome of character the protagonist is.

If a little girl with a shoe can wipe them out, a warrior with armor and sword wouldn't even be threatened. Why are these people running? Why if there is so much danger are they so lax with train security? Yeah the animation is great, but this is a seriously brain dead show.
Clearly that girl is not normal in any sense of the word dude, you can't compare her to a random soldier
 
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Just because they actually let us see some gore and how much more impactfull the feeling of being helpless this episode gave, I actually quite enjoyed it... I am not surprised that this reeks of SnK, because in many aspects this is basically a remake of SnK just with some steampunk, nothing new. Yet there was something here, i don't know if it's the gore or the fact that u actually feel like u are helpless along the other characters that actually make you at least want to watch the next episode. Good drama and good focus on the whole "it's a virus, you are f*** mate, chances of survival is slim".

But what captivated me more than Kyojin did, was that people here are actually voulnerable to attacks from a kabane and that they have yet to find a weapon strong enough to be of any use like the movement gear. And the sense of fright and how overwhelming it is to be thrown into a world where you cannot fight back and must live with an overwhelming fear that you might turn into a zombie.

I'll give it an 7 for now, since it's a 1cours anime god knows how much of disaster this will turn out to be.
 
Apr 7, 2016 7:54 PM

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Its like a mix of Attack on Titan and Princess Mononoke, with some zombie apocalypse thrown in. Very interesting.....
 
Apr 7, 2016 8:01 PM

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Steampunk setting in Edo Japan? Awesome.
 
Apr 7, 2016 8:18 PM

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Sokah said:

If a little girl with a shoe can wipe them out, a warrior with armor and sword wouldn't even be threatened. Why are these people running? Why if there is so much danger are they so lax with train security? Yeah the animation is great, but this is a seriously brain dead show.

She has superhuman power like Basara, I mean Ikoma just got.
 
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Sokah said:
Horatio_Nelson said:
Edgy teenage anti-authority trash. The main character comes off as a whiny bitch. Seriously.
"Don't put the guy who might be a zombie into jail


He wanted him put in jail. They were just going to kill him.

Lots of stupid problems with the show, like them not just throwing him in jail rather than a really poorly made scene of them wanting to randomly murder someone just to show how awesome of character the protagonist is.

If a little girl with a shoe can wipe them out, a warrior with armor and sword wouldn't even be threatened. Why are these people running? Why if there is so much danger are they so lax with train security? Yeah the animation is great, but this is a seriously brain dead show.
Were they? They surrounded him and and pointed guns at him, but they didn't shoot until he ran. Anyway, I agree with the rest of your post. This show looks awful and more cliched than almost anything else I've seen this season. I can't believe people are praising it.
What Kabaneri Did Wrong:
- Edgelord protagonist
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- Giving humans powers
- Failing to create a unique/memorable setting

What Kabaneri Did Right:
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Apr 7, 2016 8:23 PM

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Really good start to the series.
Of course the apocalyptic setting with humanity scraping for survival isn't anything new. I feel it was executed fairly well here, Though I think the Kabane onslaught should have been triggered differently.
Why would they just lower the bridge without so much as a check? Especially in such dire times.

The way the MC stopped the virus from spreading was seriously crazy though I don't get why the virus completely vanished. Even if he stopped from going to his head it did cover his chest so by that logic shouldn't he be at least half infected? Or rather he should have been infected since from what they say the virus's point of interest seems to be the heart.

The Soundtrack and animation were awesome.
The Kabane scenes were gruesome and I loved it.

As long as I get a decent explanation to all my questions, I'm sure I'll end up liking the series.
 
Apr 7, 2016 8:28 PM

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Lmao haters gonna hate.

Fantastic first episode, a great paradigm of a show that can easily draw you in from the first epiosde. The visuals and animation were stellar, and Sawano's OST does not dissapoint - spot on and fits the mood of the scenes appropriately. The character designs are easily distinguishable and really captivating as well.

Love the intriguing steampunk setting and the setting just looked beautiful for sure. So much great deatil to the artwork and visuals. That ending was intense and brutal, damn already liking the girl for sure as well. The MC does not even remind me of Eren, people should seriously wake up and stop comparing. In the end, every show has its own intrinsic value and inherent worth and uniqueness, and this show definitely mark as one of the more memorable, if not, one of the best first episodes this season and the steampunk-esque setting certainly contributes to making it distinct.

Love that Egoist OP. So catchy~ cannot wait for the Aimer ED man.
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Apr 7, 2016 8:29 PM
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the new season of shingeki no kyojin looks good lel

but really, this series is pandering and formulaic so far but is that gonna stop me from enjoying this? Probably not lmao. So far 7/10, I'll keep watching.
 
Apr 7, 2016 8:30 PM

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This anime is so good!!!!!!
 
Apr 7, 2016 8:32 PM

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Horatio_Nelson said:
Sokah said:


He wanted him put in jail. They were just going to kill him.

Lots of stupid problems with the show, like them not just throwing him in jail rather than a really poorly made scene of them wanting to randomly murder someone just to show how awesome of character the protagonist is.

If a little girl with a shoe can wipe them out, a warrior with armor and sword wouldn't even be threatened. Why are these people running? Why if there is so much danger are they so lax with train security? Yeah the animation is great, but this is a seriously brain dead show.
Were they? They surrounded him and and pointed guns at him, but they didn't shoot until he ran. Anyway, I agree with the rest of your post. This show looks awful and more cliched than almost anything else I've seen this season. I can't believe people are praising it.

What are you talking about? They only stopped shooting when MC stopped them. They were shooting at him before that.

It was hilarious how MC just choked the infection out of him. I guess that's how people will get super powers here.

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Apr 7, 2016 8:32 PM

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One of my most anticipated series this season and I'm happy to say that it delivered on the hype I've had for it.

The artstyle, setting and especially the music are all up my alley (you can't go wrong with Egoist, Aimer and Sawano at the helm in terms of OST..it's simply godlike).

Even though the similarities between this and SnK were there, I didn't mind them at all.

Regarding the MC..I really liked the way he thought things through when he got bit to get rid of the virus (although it was a bit too..convenient that it just dispersed like that after he strangled himself) and that it was a bit reckless of him to put his life in danger just to test his gun if it would pierce a Kabane's heart.

All in all..I loved it and the only thing that saddens/frightens me is that it's only going to be 1 cour of 12/13 episodes and there won't be enough time to flesh out every character and actually have a conclusive end.
 
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Definitely some striking similarities to SnK, but I thought it was unique in its own way as well. Definitely a show to look out for.

And that OP song!! 2016 is the year of EGOIST
 
Apr 7, 2016 8:33 PM
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Very impressed with the first episode! I agree with the above comment about Snow Piercer.......it reminded me of that one also. I am happy to see some steam punk and blood spattering mixed in with a girl who can kick a zombie's head off his body. I would date her in a minute......barefoot.
 
Apr 7, 2016 8:38 PM

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How have i not heard of this before? First episode was fantastic.

Haven't been this hyped for a series since AoT & F/SN UBW.
 
Apr 7, 2016 8:43 PM

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Well as expected, the basic premise is pretty much that of attack on titan. It is basically a mixed of attack on titan and you're generic zombie apocalypse. Although I think this is only the second zombie apocalypse anime ever made the first one being highschool of the dead. To be honest, if this wasnt produced by the same studio who made Attack on titan this isnt going to be as good. The animatio and music make this anime look so epic.
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Apr 7, 2016 8:49 PM

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It's Steampunk hoshido! (Edo) setting and animation aside nothing to crazy going here.


also after seeing so many zombie related stuff was driving me nuts when everyone had to use their suicide bags thinking this shit was a curse could of easily cut off the infected limbs other parts not so much...and that gate scene but whatevers

looking forward to seeing how the MC stopping the spread with some straps and metal bolts made it disappear into his hair it was intense but kinda wack.


most excited to hear the Aimer ED
 
Apr 7, 2016 8:50 PM

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OMG what an amazing episode
 
Apr 7, 2016 8:51 PM

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It's basically Wits trying to improve Attack on Titan.

(+) Steampunk Feudal Japan instead of Some Random Feudal Europe
(+) Steam guns and Trains instead of static warfare with cutters and horse
(+) Far Better MC
(+) Probably Better Heroines
(+++) Friggin Original Macross Character Designer instead of newbie mangaka

With how flawed AoT is, improving AoT is not THAT hard if you have enough budget and stylish guy to direct things.

And I don't mind shallow plot, this thing is made for pure entertainment. I don't mind stupidity to GET IN to the problem, as long it's not a stupidity to GET OUT from the problem. It's feudal Japan, dude, not some modern 21th century with tight safety procedure. Mistakes happen.
 
Apr 7, 2016 8:55 PM

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I love the character design and animation ^^

 
Apr 7, 2016 8:58 PM

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I'm a simple guy. I see zombies, badass characters, badass animation, badass soundtrack, and I'm hooked.
 
Apr 7, 2016 8:58 PM

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I'm so damn shocked ;__; it was so intense, it had me on the edge of my seat during the whole episode. Actually does well at making you feel scared or nervous. The art, setting and music were really fantastic. Amazing production and directing for a first episode. Holy shit.
 
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I was expecting a dumb gore-filled action fest and that was pretty much exactly what I got. The whole fear mentality is kinda cool, but is pretty overblown in places. Great action and fairly likeable characters will probably make this an enjoyable watch, but I don't expect anything more than that. Hopefully I'll be surprised though.
 
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It's basically Wits trying to improve Attack on Titan.

(+) Steampunk Feudal Japan instead of Some Random Feudal Europe
(+) Steam guns and Trains instead of static warfare with cutters and horse
(+) Far Better MC
(+) Probably Better Heroines
(+++) Friggin Original Macross Character Designer instead of newbie mangaka

With how flawed AoT is, improving AoT is not THAT hard if you have enough budget and stylish guy to direct things.

And I don't mind shallow plot, this thing is made for pure entertainment. I don't mind stupidity to GET IN to the problem, as long it's not a stupidity to GET OUT from the problem. It's feudal Japan, dude, not some modern 21th century with tight safety procedure. Mistakes happen.


More or less my thoughts?
 
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Delightful first episode. If they can keep this up throughout the season this show will be a real winner.

And we see why razor blades on the soles of your shoes can be a problem lol.
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Really good start to the series.
Of course the apocalyptic setting with humanity scraping for survival isn't anything new. I feel it was executed fairly well here, Though I think the Kabane onslaught should have been triggered differently.
Why would they just lower the bridge without so much as a check? Especially in such dire times.

The way the MC stopped the virus from spreading was seriously crazy though I don't get why the virus completely vanished. Even if he stopped from going to his head it did cover his chest so by that logic shouldn't he be at least half infected? Or rather he should have been infected since from what they say the virus's point of interest seems to be the heart.

The Soundtrack and animation were awesome.
The Kabane scenes were gruesome and I loved it.

As long as I get a decent explanation to all my questions, I'm sure I'll end up liking the series.

The only logic I see for the virus retreating is that the virus must have a very short life span so it rushes to take over the hosts system, in this case it failed so it ended up dying. However I'm pretty sure we'll get a more unrealistic answer down the line.(Or no answer)
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