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Mar 30, 2016 11:53 AM

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Xenocrisi said:
Walowizard said:
Overall it wasn't a bad episode but there was that entire buildup for that damn remote in an early episode and then it was solved in 30 seconds.

I didn't know that 18 minutes were 30 seconds.

I was more on about how he spent almost every episode fixing the remote and then Albrecht (Best character by far) just turned up and fixed it within seconds and then even hacked the computer.
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Mar 30, 2016 11:56 AM

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VanishingKira said:

Haruhiko x Ruru kiss

He could've eaten her head, lol.

Enigma is sexy af.

Where can I get and Albrecht? I want one. >.>

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Mar 30, 2016 11:57 AM

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Now that I think about, this is the 1st anime Kyoto animation has shown with a kiss scene!
Mar 30, 2016 11:58 AM

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That episode was so damn terrible. It probably had enough ass pulls in its 20 minutes runtime to fill up an entire season of sword art online. I'd already dropped the score from a 4 to a 3 before it tried to force feed me some feels by expecting me to care about the death of some random ass villain and having to shitty crying scene at the end.
I've never really cared about the show, I watched it for the random mildly entertaining bullshit that it was, and here it comes smacking me right in the face with that flashy tryhard piece of garbage. God damn.
Mar 30, 2016 12:02 PM

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First of all, makes me glad that Ruru was unhurt. Albretch was repairing the mouse .. funny.
The merger between Ruru and Haruhiko was very good and especially the new summon the Great Cthulhu and Marchosias.
Enjoy beautiful series until the end.
Final Score 8.2 / 10
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Mar 30, 2016 12:04 PM

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I was never going to like this finale unless we got the twist that happens for volume 2 of the LN, but we didn't. Makes the whole series feel pretty pointless then, even if it did start to improve in the previous few episodes. After all, the stuff that happens in volume 2 onwards wil probably never get animated.

Oh well, I've seen far worse than this, even if it was appallingly bad when at its worst. 7/10
Mar 30, 2016 12:05 PM

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Nice ending . You know what ? I enjoyed this anime. It had no clear plot , but who cares ? Some anime can be enjoyable without a plot. It was relaxing to watch . Plus Mai-senpai is best girl this season imo along with mary from grimgar , I'll miss them both . And those upgraded phantoms of haruhiko are op . That moment with his mother was touching , glad to see that she also wanted to see him . A bit disappointed they didn't adapt volume 2 this season , would have been a huge twist. But it's okay ... The 2nd half of was better than the first overall . Also finally glad to see that device had some use lol . I'll give 7/10 .
Mar 30, 2016 12:08 PM

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Some truth to the world. Biggest disappointment this season.
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Mar 30, 2016 12:35 PM

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The animation in this series is beautiful going from the girls' design to the fights that we get every now and then. KyoAni studio deserves credit for the animation and with the catchy opening..
However, this anime only covered Volume 1 and everyone who has read the LN likes this volume the least. Plus, some things were changed and in the LN, you felt like you were being deceived by the settings (At least, that is what I felt)
Anyways, you all will like Volume 2 and Volume 3 which is in so many ways better than Volume 1..
My Final Score is 7.75 (Round to 8) out of 10... Mai is best waifu!!

P.S: We should protest for a Season 2 where the awesome parts begin (HINT:ANTI-HERO)
Mar 30, 2016 12:40 PM

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This final was good. But as for this show overall.... Honestly, a big disappointment. Only like the first two episodes and the last two or three episodes were decent, especially the latter. But as for the other episodes - those were pretty bad. Such a shame, as these final couple of episodes were pretty enjoyable and got interesting. In my opinion, (one of) KyoAni's worst show. 6/10 because of the final couple of episodes.

Mar 30, 2016 12:41 PM
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So overall Haruhiko got to kiss 2 people in the show, Ruru and Enigma(while possessing Haruhiko's mother and Mai no teaser.

Them beam animations were pretty good.

Mai and Reina were rather likable in my opinion. And in the end we got no answer as to why Mai couldn't use her power back in that episode where Mai got attacked by a sand monster.

6/10 show was decent, had its moments but ultimately the plot took a long time to develop.

Mar 30, 2016 12:52 PM

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I wish the show was more like the last few episodes. The animation during the last fight was great!
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Mar 30, 2016 12:53 PM

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The writings in last episode are so bad. That teddy bear fixing stuff, Haruhiko's sudden unlock power and enigma such a lacklustre, i don't even know where to start commenting lol. Anyways, 5/10 or 6/10.
Mar 30, 2016 12:56 PM
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the last 3 ep were good
Mar 30, 2016 12:57 PM

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really disappointed this could have been a really good series if kyoto ani didn't fuk up and adapted the LN like it should have been instead of going anime original. oh well what we got wasn't bad i guess.

that ruru kiss was not something i expected tbh i figured it'd be from mai but it was definitely the highlight of this episode. might be an unpopular opinion but i would actually want a season 2 of this, just so there is the chance they animate volume 2, this really wasn't a bad series it just could have been sooooooooo much better.
Mar 30, 2016 1:16 PM
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GoldenDevilGamer said:
Meh, too bad they didn't don the plot twist. It would have been better if they rushed through volume 1 and quickly get to volume 2 :/
At least the last couple of episodes were alright :D

Where have you read the Light Novel?
Mar 30, 2016 1:18 PM

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I liked the show overall, I guess you could call it my guilty pleasure this season.

After hearing every LN reader talking about "sh%t getting real" and plot twists in the second volume I was expecting some kind of twist at the end (this is after all a commercial for the LN) but I guess it wasnt meant to be.
Mar 30, 2016 1:25 PM
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The only reason this show didn't give me cancer was Mai.
Mar 30, 2016 1:28 PM
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dappysaliu said:
GoldenDevilGamer said:
Meh, too bad they didn't don the plot twist. It would have been better if they rushed through volume 1 and quickly get to volume 2 :/
At least the last couple of episodes were alright :D

Where have you read the Light Novel?
I haven't read it, I only know summaries about it. I'm still waiting for translations :(
Mar 30, 2016 1:31 PM

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I am so biased as I am gonna give this a 6/10 just because of KyoAni (my lowest rating so far). The finale makes it almost certain that it won't continue with the original content which is supposed to get really dark in the sequel volume.

The biggest disappointment of the season. But I will watch the beach OVA. Wanna see more of Mai-oneesama.
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Mar 30, 2016 1:58 PM

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This episode is filler too?

Mar 30, 2016 2:12 PM

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Nico- said:
@Comic_Sans oh no y arnt ppl dieing i need more ppl dieing rly gud plot avansement jus liek tokyo ghoul if erbudy dies amirite
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@Comic_Sans I hate to insult you on forums but you are just a troll so just go kill yourself already bitch
Mar 30, 2016 2:13 PM

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It managed to redeem itself a bit at the end, but it's still trash.

Mar 30, 2016 2:17 PM

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at least theres the OVA so i don't have to cry over this show possibly being gone forever

still..... gonna miss it..... ;___;

thank you Kyoani for my new waifu <3333333

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Mar 30, 2016 2:19 PM

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a good finale overall. tbh i expected either this will be a serious anime or SoL anime, and put a lot of hope in the serious one, but i still wouldn't mind if it is SoL anime. and yea...they put SoL or you can say they put a filler instead the main story/plot. Dissapoint me a little bit. just a little bit, but overall i enjoy the show. YES! i agree with the fact that KyoAni made this anime into a filler intead of the original story is really a bad thing and probably the worst thing i have ever seen from KyoAni but on the other side, on the anime side, if i forget about the LN, i enjoyed the show overall. really enjoyable and fun show to me. The animation obviously great as usual from KyoAni. The SoL stuff is really enjoyable and fun to me. Relaxing show tbh, But just if we do not forget about the source material and combine it or compare it with the adaptation, obviously, the adaptation is bad.

well i think KyoAni intention is to advertise the LN but they did it in the wrong way. they probably though, "Let's just advertise this LN with putting SoL/filler on the whole series. i bet people will like it" and this is the result. so basically, SoL was really great in my opinion but from the way how they hadle it from the source material is really bad.

i think i need to check the genre first before watch the show. just look at the genre ; Genres: Action, Comedy, Fantasy, Supernatural. why i was expecting a serious story where there is a comedy inside of it tho....

from overall i give it 9/10. i'm not gonna lie to myself. i really enjoy this series and i'm not gonna rate it from how they handle this show. well, i never do that while give a rating to everyanime anime that i watched.

rather than a second season or an OVA, i want a remake if they have enough budget. or let other studio make it again based from the source material.
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Mar 30, 2016 2:28 PM

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... this last episode wasn't quite what I'd expect after that ep 12.

Meh. Only thing good about this show was the animation and I took a liking to Haruhiko, Reina and Mayonnees-sama.

Kyoukai no Kanata was better ;__;

Mar 30, 2016 2:35 PM

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Well. I liked the characters and graphics. Music was quite good too. The episodic plot didn't really bother me. It wasn't the best, it wasn't the worst. I won't watch it again, though. That's for sure.
Overall score 7/10. Just because I'm a sucker for KyoAni's art style.
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Mar 30, 2016 2:42 PM

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...How did those TITS not pop out ?
Mar 30, 2016 2:43 PM

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Tyrel said:
3/10. Glad this trainwreck is over. Think I only stuck through it because it was KyoAnimation. Never again.

Wait, you didn't enjoy that scene? And what about that scene where you know... ?

But yeah, with this anime, I will no longer watch another Kyoani show that's adapted from a LN. They should go back to VN adaptions.
For me all anime is anime original. I dont read manga, light novels, visual novels, etc.

Always make sure to watch anime in marathon mode and not one episode per week mode, because its the only way for you to tell if an anime is enjoyable or not. Countless times Ive seen anime weekly and enjoyed them but when I watch them marathon, I didnt like them anymore. And many times Ive seen anime that I saw weekly and hated it, but when I watched it marathon, I enjoyed it. Marathon is the way to go, specially if you plan to add an anime to your favorite list.
Mar 30, 2016 2:45 PM

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ooo333 said:
Tyrel said:
3/10. Glad this trainwreck is over. Think I only stuck through it because it was KyoAnimation. Never again.

Wait, you didn't enjoy that scene? And what about that scene where you know... ?
What scene exactly?
Mar 30, 2016 2:57 PM

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Show changed pace alot, but very enjoyable series, not once was I bored, at first I thought it was gonna be fanservice/echi heavy, but I'm glad on how it turned out, got a couple of laughs on how ridiculus it was sometimes, but hey, it made me laugh and thats what made the show better. I have to agree thought, story-wise was lacking, (that explains why so many people are disapointed and don't like it) but it was a fun anime to watch, would watch more. Also really liked the 2 final episodes, and really like the concept, a psychological serious version of this anime would be great (supposely the LN is going in this direction).
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Mar 30, 2016 2:59 PM

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I only continued watching it for Mai, other than that I'm very disappointed at how this show turned out.
Mar 30, 2016 2:59 PM

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This show was hella bad. I'm going to be nice and give it a 4/10 that it doesn't deserve, considering I only liked one episode and found the others boring.
Mar 30, 2016 3:06 PM
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I think this was a nice show, especially the last episode! I wouldn't mind S2 but that's not likely to happen judging by the mixed's a shame tho, I liked it :/

Also, second season would be pretty badass if well executed, cuz not only Haru got his powers back but he's got full control over them, if they got little more serious and little less parody-like it would be awesome
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Mar 30, 2016 3:14 PM
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If only the anime was more like the last 2 episodes.
Mar 30, 2016 3:32 PM

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Oh so Ruru is Haru's subconticious personality which means Haruhiko just kissed himself... In a way. Good.

As a show, it was hit or miss. I wanted to care about the characters but I couldn't as much as I wanted to. Also the so-called dark arc never came. What a ridiculously slow anime...

Anyways Mai best girl. I'm gonna give it a 6.5~ mostly 'cause it is kyoani and that the last few episodes were good along with the very first two. Would watch s2 if it gets darker.
Mar 30, 2016 3:47 PM

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As per usual, the end to every anime/show is brought with a huge event, for everything will always go out with a big bang! This time, it was no different. They kept the best for last, putting extra effort into animating the fight between Enigma and our main cast, and I must say that they did an amazing job. Haru also managed to "level up" his invoking skill and is now able to summon creatures that are worthy to their mythology. Happy end!
Overall, great, colorful and sometimes deep show. I understand a lot of people backed off due to the maybe excessive amount of FS at the beginning, idk, but I'm glad I stayed till the end.

Haruhiro received the Enigma badge! /5

Mar 30, 2016 3:51 PM

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just pls animate the second volume
7/10 because of reina and mai
Mar 30, 2016 4:01 PM

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If only the entire anime was like the last 2 episodes, this anime would have done a lot better. But even so, the ending was really contrived with the whole power up, big villain who wants to take over the world, and the very cookie cutter fight. Mixing a big story at the end of an episodic anime never goes well. The animation, which was fantastic and probably the only reason I got through this, was wasted on this show.

Mar 30, 2016 4:22 PM

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As usual the story ended happily.

All becomes normal. Haruhiko was now living with his mother. Is that mean that his mother left her husband? So what if later her father returned?

I do not see any loophole to get the second season of this series, because the action of the story running smoothly like this.
Mar 30, 2016 4:40 PM

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Cirris said:
Tokoya said:
Seriously.....He kisses Ruru of all people.....Wut

Idek whether I'm gonna give this a 6 or a 7 at this point

Which it turns out Ruru is like a sister. So yeah, he smooched his sister.

IceBreakerZ said:
Cirris said:

Which it turns out Ruru is like a sister. So yeah, he smooched his sister.

So Haruhiko kinda kissed his mom earlier and now his sister...
I know right lol

Regardless, I still have hope in the Mai ship since it seems like she was most bothered by him having to kiss her

I ended up giving this a 7 regardless after thinking it over.....The last 4-5 episodes are what did it for me really

Sucks that KyoAni are probably never going to do the next volume since they probably can't moe-fy it due to how dark it supposedly js
Mar 30, 2016 4:42 PM

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GoldenDevilGamer said:
dappysaliu said:
Where have you read the Light Novel?
I haven't read it, I only know summaries about it. I'm still waiting for translations :(
Can you send me the link to those please
Mar 30, 2016 5:01 PM

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This final was expected in my opinion, the protagonist strengthens your will power, and at the most opportune moment awakens his great power, thus overcoming the villain, was not bad, but also not let me excited, I would like to see something a little more surprising, as Haruhiko not forgive her mother and then of to seal Enigma, she passes to follow him, or decide to live with him as she did before

The adaptation had its high and low points, I personally quite liked the plot and expected a slightly larger development, something that maybe I find in LN, hope one day to read, the animation was great as always, I quite liked the characters, Mai it was the best girl, and had a good deal of fanservice, more than I expected, and it was well suiting to the work, I'll be looking forward to the OVA and I probably will watch this anime again in the future ..

I think I saw something pink during the fight in the episode:

Mar 30, 2016 5:03 PM

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Well KyoAni gave us a kiss and it was stupid lol

This arc was fantastic, too bad the first 11 episodes were mediocre

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Mar 30, 2016 5:07 PM

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Well, that was... mostly cringeworthy and not very good conclusion to the series.

I liked the kissing scene but that's just it. Other felt really unnatural and out of place (his father-in-law visit, deus ex machina bear hacker, sudden evolution of Haruhiko's summons and so on). Even Ruru's "big revelation" was obvious and I saw it long time coming. Not to mention Enigma was really weak final boss. Plus KyoAni really sucked in action this time. And crying scene in the end was worthy of several facepalms.

5/10 I guess this is really on par with Amagi in the end. There were some great animation accomplishments in this series but that alone is never enough.
(I wanted to give 6 because of last three good episodes but this end totally blew it)
Mar 30, 2016 5:37 PM
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Only the last 2 episodes were the best of this anime. The episodes before it were bad, and I gotta admit even Kurumi-chan's own episode was terrible. I strongly disliked episodes 6-9, for many reasons. The big cat Phantom from episode 7 was alright, but that's all there is to it.

I love the animation, yes, but the plot feels like it's non-existent.. I was having high expectations for this anime because it was going to be animated by KyoAni, but it ended up being a big disappointment. Did KyoAni cover some story from the LN at all, or not? I don't really know because I haven't read the original LN.

6/10 for my final score. :/
Mar 30, 2016 5:51 PM

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Why can't the rest of Phantom World be like this. The last 3 episodes "almost" easily bumps my score from a 4 to a 5/10.
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Mar 30, 2016 5:59 PM

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I really enjoyed this anime. Beautiful art, I liked the characters, neat premise.

I gave it a 7/10 but I just might give it an 8....because I liked it a lot :)
Mar 30, 2016 6:03 PM

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I think Ruru is more like his daughter rather than his sister, seeing as how she's a manifestation from his imagination

What's this twist people are talking about from the second volume of the LN? can someone tell me in spoilers?
Mar 30, 2016 6:09 PM

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Not what I expected but that doesn't make it bad due to not meeting my initial expectations. That said, KyoAni should pool their talents into more fruitful projects I will say. It's episodic with little connection between episodes until the ending here but again didn't make it bad. I personally like the characters but didn't care for the (forced) ecchi component. So for me it wasn't a bad weekly watch.
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