Black Butler
So what are your take on the English voice casting?
| out of all the anime, why are you watching dubs for kuroshitsuji when they have fucking ono daisuke and maaya sakamoto in their casts?! |
| The only thing I've ever really found distracting about the dub, especially for this season, is the fact that some of the VAs drift in and out of accents quite bit. I found it super noticeable with Vic Mignogna, and I will admit Joker couldn't decide whether or not he had a cockney accent or an Irish accent. Aside from that I thought it was pretty standard, the original dub never bothered me that much. :/ |
| Honestly, I think they did a good job with this. The script is very on point and the acting is solid, even if their accents aren't perfect. |
| This is why you should try to accept the fact that you're a complete weeb and stick to subbed. That's the only way to understand Japanese. |
StarsOfRust said: AltoRoark said: Honestly, I think they did a good job with this. The script is very on point and the acting is solid, even if their accents aren't perfect. The acting was no where near perfect and if you had watched it in subs you'd have known that they changed the dialogues around and put some more unnecessary ones and overall it gave off a different vibe from the characters and not in a good way. Speaking of which, have you watched it in subs? Yes I have watched it subbed. Do you really think keeping the exact same lines would make it better? A 1 on 1 script is rarely a good thing when it comes to dubs. Changes are necessary. They need to have it make sense for English. |
| I waited ages for the dub of this season and I really like it tbh. I liked the dub of the first two seasons too and I don't mind them doing English accents and I am English although Joker's odd Irish/sorta sometimes cockney accent was odd. I love Sebastian's voice tbh, it's hot in the dub <3 |
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| It must be really bad then, I'm glad I watched it subbed. |
Rainbow is amazing for the sole fact that all the chapters are in alphabetical order. |
| Everyone's entitled to their opinion, if you didn't like it then you didn't, just watch it subbed then lol. To me, being English though, watching a show set in England, watching it in Japanese just makes no sense to me lol. I know people in England in those times who were English like they are meant to be didn't speak Japanese all the time lol. I know it's a Japanese anime though so ofc it will originally be in Japanese. I've seen worse dubs, I watched Free! subbed and only watched a minute of it dubbed and couldn't stand Haru's voice, he sounded like an annoying surfer bum. Isn't BOC set after season 1? as season 2 wasn't from the manga. |
stephtastropheAug 27, 2016 8:53 AM
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| I think the OP has a point to a certain extent, but overstates the case dramatically. I hadn't listened to the original Japanese VA's because I don't understand Japanese, and find it distracting to try to read subtitles while following the characters directly, as well as observing the "background" of the scene. But I gave it a try; while I didn't do a line-by-line comparison of every single episode, I did do back-to-back viewing of select episodes, first in the original Japanese, then in the English dub. IMO, The English VA's, with a few notable exceptions, did a wonderful job of capturing the characters; and where they IMO failed, I do NOT blame the English VA's, but rather the director for choosing a particular "voice" for the character in the first place. For example, I think that the English VA Jason Liebrecht did a very good job overall as Finnian, in capturing Finny's regressed childlike innocence and sweet nature. However, the incredibly high-pitched piping voice just grates on my nerves like fingernails on a chalkboard. Likewise, Daniel Frederick is very good as Grell Sutcliff; the performance would have been outstanding if it hadn't been quite so over-the-top and outlandish. Just a bit of restraint could have, would have, taken Grell from being an annoyingly bad punch line of a tired "swish" homosexual stereotype to something much less blatantly offensive and more nuanced and, well, realistic. (if I can even use that term without bending the Iron-y-Meter into a pretzel!) w/o losing an ounce of effect along the way. With regards to Book of Circus, Joker deliberately had two distinct voices: the plain or "Cockney" accent was his real voice; the Irish brogue was his "stage" or "in-character" voice; this is confirmed outright by the director and voice actress in the commentary. And perhaps my hearing isn't quite what it used to be (or perhaps it was never all that good to begin with), but I thought that the English VA's stayed "in-voice" and "in-character" with the consummate ease expected of professional VA's. As far as the English dialogue diverging from the original Japanese, I will reiterate that I have NOT done a line-by-line comparison of each and every episode. I did however note one subtle difference in S1E2, when we are introduced to Grell Sutcliff. After basically destroying Ciel's breakfast, Grell pulls out a rather large knife and offers to atone by committing suicide. In the original Japanese, Mae-Rin merely wonders/asks rather calmly where that knife came from, as in, "Where in the hell was he hiding that?" And this is an interesting foreshadowing of Mae-Rin's capabilities that most first-time viewers will completely miss. In the English dub, Mae-Rins asks, somewhat nervously, if they should try to take the knife away from Grell. This subtly alters the scene from the original, but not in a way that substantially affects the overall story. I would like to hear from the OP of other specific instances where the English dub changed meaning/context of the original Japanese dialogue, by altering, adding to, or subtracting from the original lines. |
| I am the one you warned me of. |
| I liked season 2, the plot was interesting, it was better than I thought it would be as everyone says it's terrible. Well ... I am going to read more of the manga so I don't know what was changed in the anime. I can imagine the dub voice actors would be quite good at singing, especially Sebastian ... singing whilst putting on an accept is not so hard to do. I don't see why any impression of characters would change because you watch it in a certain language tbh. The characters are still the same. |
stephtastropheSep 11, 2016 1:08 PM
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| I am watching a dub right now, and it is alright. |
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