Mobile Suit Gundam: Iron-Blooded Orphans Episode 24 Discussion

ButtSlapper said:
sunrise:lovelive new season is coming who gives a fk about this low budget gundam series anymore.
seriously kind of worrying about the quality of last ep. they gonna delay half hour to air this week.sunrise lacks of staff to work for iron blood,causing shitty quality on the animation nearly every

ep after ep 1-7

Makaze_no_Moujuu said:
People need to look at the bigger picture, instead of just saying that Ein is a bitch and needs to die.

The point is that both sides are not that different. Ein/Gaelio and Tekkadan are BOTH fighting to avenge the lives of people the care for. Neither care about the big picture goal here. So when people say that Ein is spitting in Crank's face with his actions, or that his become blinded by revenge....that's exactly what Tekkadan is right now. Just like how Gjallarhorn's orders don't drive Ein/Gaelio, Kudelia's mission doesn't register right now to Tekkadan. I mean did you hear that speech by Orga?! He just told them TO DIE FOR THE MEMORY OF THOSE THAT HAVE PAST, AND FOR THOSE THAT WILL SURVIVE. These are kids who've yet to live a fruitful life and he's telling them to die, and they are motivated by revenge! Replace them with terrorists, and that's a pre-suicide bombing mission speech.

Why is Ein killing them in the same brutal manner that Mika killed people suddenly wrong, but what Mika did last ep fine? I thought it was kill, or be killed? Later ran at Ein screaming die, and got rekt, just she intended to kill him. He's got the Alaya-Vijana system that Mika has, and is taking advantage of it just like Mika does.

The whole point is that, as far as the characters we've been following for the season, there's no black and white. Even McGillis' willingness to use others honor for his mission is VERY similar to Kudelia admitting that her mission will kill others, and her not talking the kids out revenge with Merribit. You see that she's mixed on the situation, but does nothing because their sacrifice furthers her mission.

It's sad that so many people can't grasp what the storytellers are trying to show us. They didn't go about giving us the typical "pacifist" protagonist, because they're very actions are supposed to show us that violence, war, revenge and death only results in more of the same.

THEY'RE NOT THAT DIFFERENT.

AoiHonoo said:


THIS.

This series makes no attempt to hide the fact that there is no line between Tekkadan and Gjallarhorn; it is practically shoving it in our faces. Orga may have used flowery words, but what he ordered what was essentially what the the first group did to them way back in episode 1. The only difference is that Orga actually has the loyalty for such a command to not be met with resistance.

Last episode, fans praised Mikazuki for torturing Carta, but when Ein kills Azee and Lafter, and severely injures Shino, when he had similar reasons, people censure him. I understand that with a sensitive subject like child soldiers, and with the main group being made of such, much viewer sympathy is going to go to them. However, it's another thing to hand-wave the negatives or outright turn them into positives. The binding of the CGS adults and killing two of them, Orga promoting a battle of revenge after Biscuit's death, Mikazuki's beatdown on Carta, and Orga's speech are all meant to be negative, and shouldn't just be hand-waved just because most fans support the characters.

AoiHonoo said:


THIS.

This series makes no attempt to hide the fact that there is no line between Tekkadan and Gjallarhorn; it is practically shoving it in our faces. Orga may have used flowery words, but what he ordered what was essentially what the the first group did to them way back in episode 1. The only difference is that Orga actually has the loyalty for such a command to not be met with resistance.

Last episode, fans praised Mikazuki for torturing Carta, but when Ein kills Azee and Lafter, and severely injures Shino, when he had similar reasons, people censure him. I understand that with a sensitive subject like child soldiers, and with the main group being made of such, much viewer sympathy is going to go to them. However, it's another thing to hand-wave the negatives or outright turn them into positives. The binding of the CGS adults and killing two of them, Orga promoting a battle of revenge after Biscuit's death, Mikazuki's beatdown on Carta, and Orga's speech are all meant to be negative, and shouldn't just be hand-waved just because most fans support the characters.

PapaGreg said:

Who praised Mizazuku torturing Carta, most people found that scene to be barbaric.

NoobHunterD said:
It felt like I missed an episode