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| NOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOO I didn't want the teacher to be the killer. That was so obvious since Ep 3. Man i wish the writer made Kenya the killer. That would've been 10x better and it would shock everyone. What was the the point of making the killer so obvious? i don't get it. anyway great episode, that ending was intense! Can't wait another week! |
0celot said: I think a lot of people who bash on this anime do so because they are expecting a mind bending mystery in a world where anime has a shortage of true mysteries and this one started off giving viewers the expectation that this would be a mystery with more superpower use. In reality this is a drama/suspense that uses mystery simply as a plot device, kind of like how Death Note did it (except this one is more feely than cerebral). If you look at it that way, it succeeds at what it does. I don't think that anyone can argue that even with flaws this is not a competent anime relative to most other anime out there I'd like to direct you to my long post just up above. |
| "Beyond the veil of cherry blossom petals blown by the wind - almost like their promised reunion - Feelings pile up with the passage of time: once the torrent of emotions comes rushing down, what is the spectacle that awaits?" |
| I wonder if Satoru ever considered the fact that getting Aya together with his friend may have inadvertently erased a future child from existence. |
Mr_Shnb said: NOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOO I didn't want the teacher to be the killer. That was so obvious since Ep 3. Man i wish the writer made Kenya the killer. That would've been 10x better and it would shock everyone. What was the the point of making the killer so obvious? i don't get it. anyway great episode, that ending was intense! Can't wait another week! no that would just be having a plot twist for the sake of having a plot twist |
| Pff.. I didn't want to believe that it was the teacher, but playing obvious culprit is obvious was interesting. I thought his weird behaviour was meant to sidetrack us, because that would be too easy. I overcomplicated the situation too much i guess... Will he take the bait though.. "I know your future", probably. |
gvelion said: terminador_2397 said: I agree with this too hype is one of the many epitomes wrong with the community There's nothing wrong with being excited for a show, the real problems come when it recieves more hype than it deserves. People who hype the show up too much make it seem like it will be amazing but in turn some fails to live up to that hype. Fans can't call people out when others don't enjoy it as much because they are the ones who hyped the show up to be something amazing Same happened to me with SnK. During it's run , that show was so hyped, as ,, the best thing '' ever, so when i picked it up , i had very high expectations and was left disappointed. I didn't hate it or anything, but certainly i would've enjoyed it more. Exactly that's what people don't seem to get |
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| I knew it right away that it was the teacher. It was predictable, yet I really liked how this show built up to the reveal and didn't give really easy to pick up hints until later in the show. |
eijikun said: Kiriae88 said: There had to be some kind of crime or else the killer would never get caught(no crime -> no case, you might try to prove he was planning a crime but there wouldn't no enough facts to confirm that). Episode 06; 8 minutes in Sawada mentions a kidnapping-murder case in another town before the Kayo incident. With a culprit who was caught quickly and claimed they were innocent, just like Jun. If you count Manga scenes, (Ch26) Kenya and Satoru had a talk about another case If one were to believe that either of those two cases were done by the same person who would kill Kayo/Aya/Hiromi, you would be able to find evidence for those (cold) cases to try and catch him. It's just that the current case (Kayo, Aya, Hiromi) there would be nothing because Satoru intervened. (Although now, they can build a case on the murder [or attempted murder] of Satoru) Oh, right. I forgot about that. Or perhaps I didn't pay enough attention(English isn't my mother language so I tend to miss stuff during fast paced dialogues). I just finished reading manga(I decided to do that instead of going through the anime again, lol) so I see it now. There were indeed more cases to work at. But all of them had a fake culprit so very few people seen them as anything else than "case closed" so what I said remains valid. BTW: After reading manga I think I know how they are going to fit the 12 chapters in 2 episodes. There is really not that much action left. I see a lot of flashbacks, small talk and repeating scenes in chapters 32-40. My guess: Episode 11: , a cliffhanger- end of chapter 40. Episode 12: Chapters 41-44. BTW. Where can I read chapter 43? |
| Damn, that episode was intense :O Imagine if the anime ended with that last scene... |
| Tricked by how the killer was so obviously alluded to that it became not obvious. |
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| C'mon lets face it, we all would have been more surprised if it wasnt the teacher. First rule to abducting children is to lure them in with candy! |
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| How was this reveal of a killer supposed to be brilliant in anyway. I just wish next week would come sooner so I can finally tell everyone that I was right in saying this show is shit. But I'll never truly convince them, because they'll think that it was good until it had a shitty ending. Alas, that is the sad fate of the modern anime community. |
| every single one of my forum posts is dumb and invalid except for 1, I don't claim them it was a different person it was all fake |
| WOW GUYS I'M SO SURPRISED. WHO WOULD HAVE THOUGHT IT WAS THE TEACHER? It's annoying that once again, as the viewer, I feel like I've been treated like an idiot by the show's writers. They offer up literally one alternative to the teacher for who the murderer could have been then on top of that start throwing in 'clues' - like the candy - that were as subtle as a sledgehammer to the face. This show has had some good moments but the mystery (which is ultimately the core of the show) is so badly pieced together. Offer up alternative killers, actually piece together possible motives. Do these things BEFORE revealing who it is. I'm so disappointed in this show. RainyRai said: How was this reveal of a killer supposed to be brilliant in anyway. I just wish next week would come sooner so I can finally tell everyone that I was right in saying this show is shit. But I'll never truly convince them, because they'll think that it was good until it had a shitty ending. Alas, that is the sad fate of the modern anime community. I wouldn't call it 'shit' but you're comment is pretty much spot on. Reveals are supposed to have that 'wow' factor and make you weigh up everything that came beforehand. This fell far from doing that. |
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Hitashi said: Mr_Shnb said: NOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOO I didn't want the teacher to be the killer. That was so obvious since Ep 3. Man i wish the writer made Kenya the killer. That would've been 10x better and it would shock everyone. What was the the point of making the killer so obvious? i don't get it. anyway great episode, that ending was intense! Can't wait another week! no that would just be having a plot twist for the sake of having a plot twist I don't think so, the writer could've easily made Kenya the killer and that he can go back to the past just like Satoru or some shit like that. |
RainyRai said: How was this reveal of a killer supposed to be brilliant in anyway. Oh so you think it would have been brilliant if some random "other" character showed up suddenly to say "kukuku you have it wrong, I am the killer" Honestly what did you expect at this point? I'm not saying Yashiro being the real culprit is brilliant, but I'd rather have a reveal that is somewhat obvious than a surprising reveal that doesn't make any sense and is thrown in at the last minute And I wish people would stop bashing this show just because it's hyped. If you don't like it, fine, but the anti hype comments are becoming JUST as repetitive and annoying as the hype comments. How about you let the "modern anime community" decide for themselves what they think about the show, who cares what others think anyway? |
LauraBirdie said: RainyRai said: How was this reveal of a killer supposed to be brilliant in anyway. Oh so you think it would have been brilliant if some random "other" character showed up suddenly to say "kukuku you have it wrong, I am the killer" Honestly what did you expect at this point? I'm not saying Yashiro being the real culprit is brilliant, but I'd rather have a reveal that is somewhat obvious than a surprising reveal that doesn't make any sense and is thrown in at the last minute And I wish people would stop bashing this show just because it's hyped. If you don't like it, fine, but the anti hype comments are becoming JUST as repetitive and annoying as the hype comments. How about you let the "modern anime community" decide for themselves what they think about the show, who cares what others think anyway? I do not think it would have been brilliant if some other character was the killer because I do not think the show is brilliant in anyway, and I do know Yasahiro was the only culprit. I was mainly directing that question to people who thought it was a genius reveal simply because the show made it so obvious that it was him despite failing to give a single alternative, a.k.a the show is brilliant because it's writing sucks. Also, I don't hate the show because it's hyped. I hate it because it sucks. I'm developing more hatred against the show simply because the fans are sucking it's dick way to hard though. |
| every single one of my forum posts is dumb and invalid except for 1, I don't claim them it was a different person it was all fake |
RainyRai said: How was this reveal of a killer supposed to be brilliant in anyway. I just wish next week would come sooner so I can finally tell everyone that I was right in saying this show is shit. But I'll never truly convince them, because they'll think that it was good until it had a shitty ending. Alas, that is the sad fate of the modern anime community. Wow man, You're so cool and different. |
Mr_Shnb said: RainyRai said: How was this reveal of a killer supposed to be brilliant in anyway. I just wish next week would come sooner so I can finally tell everyone that I was right in saying this show is shit. But I'll never truly convince them, because they'll think that it was good until it had a shitty ending. Alas, that is the sad fate of the modern anime community. Wow man, You're so cool and different. Yes, I am trying very much to be cool and different, this is why FMA/Cowboy Bebop/Kill la Kill/Steins;Gate/Madoka Magica are in my favorites, such underrated and unknown gems. |
| every single one of my forum posts is dumb and invalid except for 1, I don't claim them it was a different person it was all fake |
| Well, that's a nice ending of the series xD It was fun, gg, would watch again btw, couldn't he just pull the belt enough to get out? It's not hard really, so... |
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KorNk said: Well, that's a nice ending of the series xD It was fun, gg, would watch again btw, couldn't he just pull the belt enough to get out? It's not hard really, so... Suspend your disbelief to ignore this show's flaws or lower your IQ to the point where you won't notice them and you'll be fine with the belt. The only logical explanation is simply that the belt is sabotaged, even though Satoru was able to lean forward in it. |
| every single one of my forum posts is dumb and invalid except for 1, I don't claim them it was a different person it was all fake |
| I always thought that the killer should be Satoru's best friend or his sensei, and now we discovered who really is.... I'm thinking what will happen to Satoru. It will good or bad things? |
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RainyRai said: How was this reveal of a killer supposed to be brilliant in anyway. I just wish next week would come sooner so I can finally tell everyone that I was right in saying this show is shit. But I'll never truly convince them, because they'll think that it was good until it had a shitty ending. Alas, that is the sad fate of the modern anime community. Dude, how should I put it... The anime or manga wasn't designed to have the most unpredictable mystery element, so there is no point bitching there. I also don't understand why are you so mad in the first place... What coasted you to hate the anime so much? Why don't you try to point out elements that made the anime bad to begin with^^ RainyRai said: Also, I don't hate the show because it's hyped. I hate it because it sucks. I'm developing more hatred against the show simply because the fans are sucking it's dick way to hard though. I see what you did there... "I hate it because it sucks" - good point "I hate it because of the fanbase/because its popular" - yeah, another valid point So what's wrong with the anime again? P.S.: You are pretty toxic, aren't you? |
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KorNk said: RainyRai said: How was this reveal of a killer supposed to be brilliant in anyway. I just wish next week would come sooner so I can finally tell everyone that I was right in saying this show is shit. But I'll never truly convince them, because they'll think that it was good until it had a shitty ending. Alas, that is the sad fate of the modern anime community. Dude, how should I put it... The anime or manga wasn't designed to have the most unpredictable mystery element, so there is no point bitching there. I also don't understand why are you so mad in the first place... What coasted you to hate the anime so much? Why don't you try to point out elements that made the anime bad to begin with^^ RainyRai said: Also, I don't hate the show because it's hyped. I hate it because it sucks. I'm developing more hatred against the show simply because the fans are sucking it's dick way to hard though. I see what you did there... "I hate it because it sucks" - good point "I hate it because of the fanbase/because its popular" - yeah, another valid point So what's wrong with the anime again? Because this is a thread about one specific episode of this show and not about the entire show, because many of the things that piss me off aren't all happening at the same time, just one after another. If you want my opinions now: Spoiled because possible wall of text. |
| every single one of my forum posts is dumb and invalid except for 1, I don't claim them it was a different person it was all fake |
povveriess said: well this anime is officially shit. really? the teacher? like we couldnt have guessed it from episode 2. i thought there'd be some kind of plot twist but it was really the teacher. at first i couldnt believe it was the teacher because if that happened this series would be like any other predictable shit series. but i had faith. like this story is really bland now. fuck gg At this point there was no one else it could be without being an asspull, the author didn't think ahead to the point of "oh maybe I should add another suspect so people think that it would be them since teachers trap is that he's too obvious and then they'll be torn." |
| every single one of my forum posts is dumb and invalid except for 1, I don't claim them it was a different person it was all fake |
KorNk said: RainyRai said: How was this reveal of a killer supposed to be brilliant in anyway. I just wish next week would come sooner so I can finally tell everyone that I was right in saying this show is shit. But I'll never truly convince them, because they'll think that it was good until it had a shitty ending. Alas, that is the sad fate of the modern anime community. Dude, how should I put it... The anime or manga wasn't designed to have the most unpredictable mystery element, so there is no point bitching there. I also don't understand why are you so mad in the first place... What coasted you to hate the anime so much? Why don't you try to point out elements that made the anime bad to begin with^^ RainyRai said: Also, I don't hate the show because it's hyped. I hate it because it sucks. I'm developing more hatred against the show simply because the fans are sucking it's dick way to hard though. I see what you did there... "I hate it because it sucks" - good point "I hate it because of the fanbase/because its popular" - yeah, another valid point So what's wrong with the anime again? P.S.: You are pretty toxic, aren't you? He's clearly a 12 year old so don't waste your time arguing with him. |
| welp, they rushed it. they skipped way too much on the manga. honestly, they should have ended it before the time skip and showed the aftermath for 2nd season... im assuming we wont be getting a 2nd season? for those who havent read the manga -- it's far from over. |
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| Obvious killer is obvious, lol. Overall though I personally feel it was a well executed episode. |
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Tamamitsune said: Wow, are you guys seriously degrading this series just because this website with its self added genres, had a mystery tag. This isn't a mystery, that's a fact, the fact that all of you people keep saying the mystery is bad, well there is a reason for that, because it's not a MYSTERY Are you really going to follow myanimelists genres and think the anime is bad because it's not doing it's mystery well, when it wasn't even a fucking mystery in the first place. The flaws you guys stated with the mystery aspect, is no flaw at all, because this isn't a mystery anime. Honestly Boku Dake presents itself as a mystery, tags or not. Of course it is a mystery series. |
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Darkshadow77 said: Tamamitsune said: Wow, are you guys seriously degrading this series just because this website with its self added genres, had a mystery tag. This isn't a mystery, that's a fact, the fact that all of you people keep saying the mystery is bad, well there is a reason for that, because it's not a MYSTERY Are you really going to follow myanimelists genres and think the anime is bad because it's not doing it's mystery well, when it wasn't even a fucking mystery in the first place. The flaws you guys stated with the mystery aspect, is no flaw at all, because this isn't a mystery anime. Honestly Boku Dake presents itself as a mystery, tags or not. Of course it is a mystery series. This. I love that people are doing the old "It's not a mystery, It's a thriller". That's garbage. It's both. The problem lies in the fact that the very first episode of the show set the tone for it being a mystery. I feel cheated and misled. People gave that same lame excuse to Rokka no Yuusha which was annoying - however this show's presentation and direction is still a lot better. |
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Well, I can see now what's going on, though it feels like you misunderstood the characters and the anime scenes a bit (well, I can't exactly say that you misunderstood something, since there is no real way to prove it). Buuut, let's get into it anyway - "The time travel is terribly done for plot convenience" you can look at it like that, however it's his ability that he cannot control perfectly. - "Ten year old girl that can now psycho analyze the MC because her mom slaps her" I don't see the connection between reading minds and being slapped... Also, the MC and Hinazuki are both introverts, so they are comfortable with each other, and therefore can use "psycho analysis ". Hinazuki was also designed mature for her age, which is not a bad thing. - "her mom slaps her (and this is excused because her one dimensional evil mom got beat by a barely mentioned one dimensional evil boyfriend)" (!)It's not escused(!) Last episode (which was kinda devoted to what you said) if you watch the it again, NOBODY was crying or were moved by the mother-daughter scene, including Hinazuki (which was stated by the MC actually). So it meant exactly the opposite of what you though. - "she gets bullied at school(which is needless victimizing)" children from poor unpleasant families are often bullied, it's just how it is. I'd be more surprised if she wasn't tbh. It wasn't made up for plot reasons or something like that... - " then she suddenly drops every bit of that personality and becomes a simply quiet little girl when this random kid talks to her." That's just who she was from the beginning, and you can only see it when she talks. It really feels like you don't understand introverted people... - "The MC acts really deep but he's actually just a kid..." You don't need to have a well-paid job to act deep. The MC actually has both a deep and a childish side, that's just his character, and it's still not bad. - "He acts way to childish for his own good, and even has pedophilliac" well, you don't know exactly how does it feel to appear in your own body but many years ago. If a boy gets flustered from a girl's touch, then why having the mind (but I think the word "memory" is more appropriate) should have any influence on it? I think that it's exactly how it was designed by the author. You don't simply have a smaller body - you become a child again. Try to think from this point. - "The teacher is supposed to be a super caniving clever bastard but when he's revealed he immediately starts fucking monolouging and then turns into a "hurr durr evil villain". Also he has an unexplained hate boner for MC." Emm? First, when he was "monolouging" he explained why he despised the MC, maybe you missed that part. Second, it was exactly his character. Dude the guy enjoys killing girls, and you are saying that he has to be composed while doing it... That's not how it works in irl either btw. - "The sounds are meh." Can't say anything. It was ok for me, but it's not like I'm an expert Well, as I already said, there's no correct answer when it comes to an opinion, but just maybe you'll reconsider your opinion about the anime, being presented the other point of view. Feel free to object btw, if you find any flaws in my thinking^^ |
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Ahahaha, sorry I snapped and made an "as detailed as I could" answer xD It doen't feel like a 12-year-old btw, more like a person who watched too much action anime, to the point that he can't read the characters... |
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KorNk said: Well, I can see now what's going on, though it feels like you misunderstood the characters and the anime scenes a bit (well, I can't exactly say that you misunderstood something, since there is no real way to prove it). Buuut, let's get into it anyway - "The time travel is terribly done for plot convenience" you can look at it like that, however it's his ability that he cannot control perfectly. - "Ten year old girl that can now psycho analyze the MC because her mom slaps her" I don't see the connection between reading minds and being slapped... Also, the MC and Hinazuki are both introverts, so they are comfortable with each other, and therefore can use "psycho analysis ". Hinazuki was also designed mature for her age, which is not a bad thing. - "her mom slaps her (and this is excused because her one dimensional evil mom got beat by a barely mentioned one dimensional evil boyfriend)" (!)It's not escused(!) Last episode (which was kinda devoted to what you said) if you watch the it again, NOBODY was crying or were moved by the mother-daughter scene, including Hinazuki (which was stated by the MC actually). So it meant exactly the opposite of what you though. - "she gets bullied at school(which is needless victimizing)" children from poor unpleasant families are often bullied, it's just how it is. I'd be more surprised if she wasn't tbh. It wasn't made up for plot reasons or something like that... - " then she suddenly drops every bit of that personality and becomes a simply quiet little girl when this random kid talks to her." That's just who she was from the beginning, and you can only see it when she talks. It really feels like you don't understand introverted people... - "The MC acts really deep but he's actually just a kid..." You don't need to have a well-paid job to act deep. The MC actually has both a deep and a childish side, that's just his character, and it's still not bad. - "He acts way to childish for his own good, and even has pedophilliac" well, you don't know exactly how does it feel to appear in your own body but many years ago. If a boy gets flustered from a girl's touch, then why having the mind (but I think the word "memory" is more appropriate) should have any influence on it? I think that it's exactly how it was designed by the author. You don't simply have a smaller body - you become a child again. Try to think from this point. - "The teacher is supposed to be a super caniving clever bastard but when he's revealed he immediately starts fucking monolouging and then turns into a "hurr durr evil villain". Also he has an unexplained hate boner for MC." Emm? First, when he was "monolouging" he explained why he despised the MC, maybe you missed that part. Second, it was exactly his character. Dude the guy enjoys killing girls, and you are saying that he has to be composed while doing it... That's not how it works in irl either btw. - "The sounds are meh." Can't say anything. It was ok for me, but it's not like I'm an expert Well, as I already said, there's no correct answer when it comes to an opinion, but just maybe you'll reconsider your opinion about the anime, being presented the other point of view. Feel free to object btw, if you find any flaws in my thinking^^ K. >it's his ability that he can't control correctly The reason for why we don't know why the time travel works makes sense, but the usage of the time travel does not make it okay. The time travel is used as plot convenience the entire story by the author, as he just makes the MC go back and forth in time whenever he wishes >she was designed mature for her age She and Kenya are both automatically able to break down the MC's character when they first meet. That's more then mature for her age. >no one was moved The characters weren't moved, but the scene still existed to give the mother a reason to hit Kayo instead of having her be entirely one dimensional evil villain, and it wasn't a good reason. >kids like that get bullied But the only reason it exists in the story is to make you feel bad for the little girl. >she's only introverted No, she goes from mature for her age child that is changed because of parental abuse to regular introverted little girl that was a victim of parental abuse >his job and such point I didn't say he had to have a well-paid job to act deep, that's just how his character ended up. The reason is, he has no reason to be deep because the only important things that happened in his life were Yuuki's advice to get friends, Yuuki's framing which he entirely forgets for years, and then eventually the revival ability. >the next point The problem is, it's not that he has the memories of the past, he is literally himself but inside the body of his child self. Sure, there's the whole body reactions, but he has mental reactions such as saying his mother was in the way when he, mom, and Kayo were sleeping in the sleeping bag(and he also does his whole saying shit out loud gig in the future). >the monolouge Yes, he was explaining his plans, and how the MC fucked his plans, and then he started saying how he tricked the MC by making a new plan against the MC. The part about him being composed: In every instance before he was revealed, he was cool, calculating, always one step ahead of MC. In his reveal, he doesn't act like that at all. >the sounds It's really that the OST was never noticeable at all in the show, and the actual sound effects were eh(also I kind of hate a certain sound effect that's being used a lot in this show and a lot of other shows lately.) |
-Rainy-Mar 11, 2016 4:41 PM
| every single one of my forum posts is dumb and invalid except for 1, I don't claim them it was a different person it was all fake |
Mr_Shnb said: KorNk said: Dude, how should I put it... The anime or manga wasn't designed to have the most unpredictable mystery element, so there is no point bitching there. I also don't understand why are you so mad in the first place... What coasted you to hate the anime so much? Why don't you try to point out elements that made the anime bad to begin with^^ I see what you did there... "I hate it because it sucks" - good point "I hate it because of the fanbase/because its popular" - yeah, another valid point So what's wrong with the anime again? P.S.: You are pretty toxic, aren't you? He's clearly a 12 year old so don't waste your time arguing with him. If I was a 12 year-old, I'd either like this show, or I wouldn't put nearly as much effort into why I think it was bad dude. |
| every single one of my forum posts is dumb and invalid except for 1, I don't claim them it was a different person it was all fake |
| idk if manga readers actually read the manga or if they are regurgitating what they hear from other ppl. the things skipped were nonsense anyways and the things rushed didnt need time. |
| Disliked the episode, because it made little to no sense how Satoru couldn't even figure out that the teacher is the actual culprit. I was already surprised the episode before when he didn't come to the conclusion after discovering the sweets in his car. I guess it was to get some intensity going but for us watchers, when the situation is so easily predictable, it actually backfries and the conclusion is treated as something unexpected which makes it even worse. |
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| Honestly, the only word on my lips after watching this episode is... meh. |
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KorNk said: Ahahaha, sorry I snapped and made an "as detailed as I could" answer xD It doen't feel like a 12-year-old btw, more like a person who watched too much action anime, to the point that he can't read the characters... If you can't comprehend that people have a different taste/opinion than you, and Claiming that "modern anime community" is shit because some people like a certain anime + getting butthurt and giving the anime a 2/10 because you want to lower the score of the show and that you hate that it's popular and saying that you can't wait for this anime to end so you can tell people how shitty it is all of that Sounds like a 12 year old mentality to me. |
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