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Mar 2, 2016 11:49 AM
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Do you think that anime such as Mars of Destruction, Sword Art Online, and Ore Twintails are bad in different ways? Do things like budget and intent affect your perception of an anime? Is it better for an anime to be deliberately bad than to attempt to be good and fail completely? Do you think less about an overrated average anime than you do about an underrated average anime (mediocre vs. decent)?
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Mar 2, 2016 11:51 AM
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There's 3 bads for me. Bad, not that bad, bad that it's good.
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Mar 2, 2016 11:53 AM
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dae think anime is literally shit? xDDDD especially sao xDD
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Mar 2, 2016 11:56 AM
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My bad types of bad :
1- Average
2- Not Good
3- Bad
4- Very bad
5- Terrible
6- Total Garbage / sh¡t

However , all these falls into 1 category - Trash: Would ask everyone to stay away from them.

And my favorite : So bad , it's good
Mar 2, 2016 12:01 PM
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-Senpai- said:
There's 3 bads for me. Bad, not that bad, bad that it's good.
Basically this..
But I'd like to add painful in there as well..
Mar 2, 2016 12:02 PM
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There is bad and...nope, there is only one kind of bad and that just simply means it's bad. Nothing more or less.
Mar 2, 2016 12:03 PM
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My definition of bad is basically bad, so bad it's good, and horrible- the old TV Tropes system. Most anime that I thought were boring, stupid, had poor worldbuilding or unlikeable characters, or any of a multitude of other problems go in bad. Trainwrecks fare a bit better to me because it's impossible to take them seriously. However, I save my worst rating for shows that outright offend me (SAO, Black Bullet, etc.)

I also tend to judge popular shows that I don't like differently than shows I don't like that nobody likes. For example, I think Clannad is much worse than something like Gakusen Toshi Asterisk (both of which I gave the same score) because the first is constantly praised as a masterpiece while everybody watches the second just to make fun of it.
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Mar 2, 2016 12:05 PM
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I tend to think about what makes a story bad more than I think about the different kinds of bad. If I can analyze and decide on what aspects a certain show performs in a subpar way and how often it fails to meet the basic standards that I hold to the genre it belongs to, I can then choose whether or not it should be considering awful or bad.

But if we're going to just name degrees of bad, I guess I would say that I see it as disgusting, horrible, awful and bad.
I'm also filled with pure-hearted ulterior motives.

Mar 2, 2016 12:15 PM
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The Appleseed OVA eng dub was so full of swears that it made me laugh and felt cheesy. Made into a trashy but good ova. In combination with athe actions and the interesting setting and cool action it was awesome. But this is very rare and the absolute exception.
Mar 2, 2016 12:18 PM
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im not really the kind of person who calls anime "bad"

just cause i don't like something doesn't make it bad, the fact will always be someone else likes it

however, "so bad its good" is like mars of destruction
Mar 2, 2016 12:20 PM

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I'd say there's bad but a guilty pleasure I secretly enjoy and keep to myself, aaand just plain bad. But I'd be more likely to watch a anime with bad story but good animation than anime with good story and bad animation. Dunno why tho, I wish it was other way around :3
Mar 2, 2016 12:39 PM

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Mine range from "this is pure shit" to "this was disappointing".
All anime I deem to be below average fall somewhere in that range.
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Mar 2, 2016 12:54 PM

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Bad is bad. They are all the same. You've rated all those series below a 5 rate op? Then you should not distinguished them differently then. Its just retarded.
Mar 2, 2016 12:57 PM

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Damn, if this isn't your cutest bait right here~ didn't you already do one some time ago?

Nor sao or twintail are 'so bad so good' shows but yea you got one right, Mars is indeed one of the few 'so bad so funny'.
Mar 2, 2016 1:00 PM

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Bad is bad. They are all the same. You've rated all those series below a 5 rate op? Then you should not distinguished them differently then. Its just retarded.
I gave MoD a 1, SAO a 4, and Twintails a 7. I do consider them to all be bad anime, but I actually really enjoyed Twintails despite how stupid the concept was and how much I had to suspend my disbelief.
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zombie_pegasus said:
keragamming said:
Bad is bad. They are all the same. You've rated all those series below a 5 rate op? Then you should not distinguished them differently then. Its just retarded.
I gave MoD a 1, SAO a 4, and Twintails a 7. I do consider them to all be bad anime, but I actually really enjoyed Twintails despite how stupid the concept was and how much I had to suspend my disbelief.


I don't think you should call Twintails a bad series, simple because its concept isn't normal.
Mar 2, 2016 1:15 PM

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or fujobait trash like Shugo Chara!

Shugo Chara! barely has fujoshi fandom. I've never seen yaoi of it to be honest.

For me, there are enjoyable bad shows and not enjoyable bad shows.
Mahou Sensou was terrible, but it managed to keep me interested in what dumb thing will happen next. Call it "so bad that it's good".
Diabolik lovers was also terrible, but in a different level. I was actually raging at the script. I didn't get any fun from watching it. 0/10, worst anime ever.

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Mar 2, 2016 1:26 PM

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They are two types of bad for me; the "simple bad" (Mahouka, Guilty Crown...), and the even worse bad of Utsu Musume Sayuri, Shitcom...
Mar 2, 2016 2:59 PM

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Basically there is:

(5) Not Really Good/So So - Not a total waste, but kind of lame and forgettable
(4) Weak - Very badly put together and full of flaws, wish I'd done something else with my time
(3) Bad - There is little I can say that is good about this I hated just about everything
(2) Awful/Horrible - Abomination that should be avoided at all costs, has no redeeming value
(1) Worst Ever/Shit - Completely unwatchable or extremely offensive garbage
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Mar 2, 2016 3:35 PM

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-Senpai- said:
There's 3 bads for me. Bad, not that bad, bad that it's good.


Yeah, like Tokyo Ghoul is so bad that its good... SAO is not that bad, and One Piece is bad....

Kruszer said:
Basically there is:

(5) Not Really Good/So So - Not a total waste, but kind of lame and forgettable
(4) Weak - Very badly put together and full of flaws, wish I'd done something else with my time
(3) Bad - There is little I can say that is good about this I hated just about everything
(2) Awful/Horrible - Abomination that should be avoided at all costs, has no redeeming value
(1) Worst Ever/Shit - Completely unwatchable or extremely offensive garbage


OMG! I JUST REMEMBERED THE DEVIL MAY CRY adaptation I cannot unsee that.
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Mar 2, 2016 3:38 PM

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@Marlonv1 No, Tokyo Gould it's so good that it's good.
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Mar 2, 2016 3:39 PM

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Twintails is the "absolutely stupid in every way but it doesn't try to not be stupid fun" kind of bad, where you can complain it's bad but it doesn't try to be anything other then stupid fun so it's not warranted.

SAO is the kind of "show that tried to be good but it failed for whatever reason" kind of bad, where you can complain that it's shit because it tried not to be shit and be a good compelling story and it didn't do that.

Mars of Destruction is the "rock bottom" kind of bad. It fucking sucks.

-from a guy who has watched 1 episode of Twintail, and not watched Mars of Destruction.
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Mar 2, 2016 3:49 PM

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My MALgraph tells me we're living in the golden age of Anime, and I certainly can't disagree.
Mar 2, 2016 3:52 PM

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theres 2 types of bad for me: the anime that never lifted its face from the ground and the anime that went sky-high and then skydived face first into the ground, the latter being the "offensive" kind of bad.
Mar 2, 2016 5:25 PM

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My type of bad : Bad shit, bad ending, quite bad, so bad it's good.
Mar 2, 2016 9:40 PM
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An anime is bad if I say it is bad. There is nothing else to it.
Mar 2, 2016 9:42 PM

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there is many different type of good, so does bad. but still i rate tham as overall bad.
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Mar 2, 2016 10:54 PM

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I have 3 types of Bad.

Bad, it's just not good and maybe boring.

So bad it's good, where something is so stupid that's funny for all the wrong reasons like it being funny for even existing.

So bad it's bad, so bad that's horrible and you end up hating them.
Mar 2, 2016 10:55 PM
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>So bad it's good
>So bad it's bad
>It's bad
Mar 2, 2016 10:59 PM
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I have 3 types of bad, like a lot of other people who responded.

Bland - boring, basic, clichés, but it's not unwatchable, and in fact I sort of enjoyed it oddly (Charlotte)
Mediocre - very basic standards, not much I can compliment the show on but I don't have much to criticise on either. However, I didn't really enjoy watching it (Chuunibyou Demo Koi Ga Shitai)
Horrible - not even the animation and sound could save this one. A complete waste of time (Diabolik Lovers)
Mar 2, 2016 11:02 PM

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They are two types of bad for me; the "simple bad" (Mahouka, Guilty Crown...), and the even worse bad of Utsu Musume Sayuri, Shitcom...
Ok this
Is pretty much like me except apart from I would add in Toradora as just plain garbage
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Mar 2, 2016 11:18 PM

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Yes, there are different kinds of bad.
1) Some anime are bad because they stand against everything I stand for. Example: Haibane Renmei.
I wouldn't bother arguing about them with anybody, because they don't share my principles and values anyway.

2) Some anime are just too badly made to evaluate their content, like Kamichama Karin and its eye-bleeding visuals.
Most people will probably agree they're bad, so it's a useful criterion when interacting with others.

3) Some anime are just disgusting. There is some fundamental flaw in their concept that should be obvious to anybody from the same cultural background as me. Example: Abashiki Ikka.
This evaluation can be useful for interacting with others too, but only when you expect to share a background. Japanese might just disagree with your evaluation.

4) Some anime are just run-of-the-mill, generic and so on. I'm sure you've seen a lot of examples.
This evaluation is only useful when speaking with anime veterans.

5) And finally, there is anime that is just not for me. From yaoi to horror.
This evaluation is pretty much useless when speaking to other people, because they might be yaoi fangirls, masochists or whatever.
Mar 2, 2016 11:28 PM

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every Chinese cartoon is shit anyway
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Mar 3, 2016 1:23 AM

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How can a show 'want to be bad'? Every show wants to be good.

There are bad shows that offend me, shows that are moronic and pretentiousness. Texhnolyze, SAO and so far Parasyte fit. They start off as serious, but completely lose it. SAO and Parasyte become harem, Tex is just grimdark.

Others are just boring bad. They're stupid, but nothing interesting going on like Date A Live II.
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Mar 3, 2016 1:27 AM

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Mars of Destruction
Not seen it, probably simply bad.
Sword Art Online
Seen it, not bad at all 7/10
Ore Twintails
Not seen it, but is on my PTW list. Doesn't look bad to me.

Do things like budget and intent affect your perception of an anime?
No I rate by enjoyment. So if I watch it and enjoy it I will rate it positively, don't care about budget or stuff like that.

Is it better for an anime to be deliberately bad than to attempt to be good and fail completely?
No an anime should and does always try to be good.

Do you think less about an overrated average anime than you do about an underrated average anime (mediocre vs. decent)?
No they're both average.
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First of all, thank u for asking a very interesting question. Good questions on mal are very rare

I only see 2 ways of making a bad anime. Either u fail to interest me and make me keep going, or u completely screw up and make the most unsatisfying ending.

Now the first one is not half as bad, bcuz i can always drop a show when i feel it goes nowhere or is not interesting, or simply doesnt deliver what i was expecting
The second is by far the worst fucking i can possibly imagine. I waste so much time on it, only to be dissapointed at the end, its just a massive NO. And im not only talking bout those that have a *go read the manga u hag* kinda endings :p
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Mars of Destruction
Not seen it, probably simply bad.
Sword Art Online
Seen it, not bad at all 7/10
Ore Twintails
Not seen it, but is on my PTW list. Doesn't look bad to me.

Do things like budget and intent affect your perception of an anime?
No I rate by enjoyment. So if I watch it and enjoy it I will rate it positively, don't care about budget or stuff like that.

Is it better for an anime to be deliberately bad than to attempt to be good and fail completely?
No an anime should and does always try to be good.

Do you think less about an overrated average anime than you do about an underrated average anime (mediocre vs. decent)?
No they're both average.

Watch Mars of Destruction, its fucking brilliant in its own way xD
Mar 3, 2016 2:34 AM

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For me there is only one kind of bad , what bothers me or makes me rage

The " so bad it's so good " belongs to the category of "good" for me, and i rate them with a positive score, cause they are usually enjoyable (the only thing that matter imho)
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Regardless whether intentional or not, bad is still bad. It's just a matter of how willing you're able to tolerate the badness.
Mar 3, 2016 3:31 AM

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How can a show 'want to be bad'? Every show wants to be good.

There are bad shows that offend me, shows that are moronic and pretentiousness. Texhnolyze, SAO and so far Parasyte fit. They start off as serious, but completely lose it. SAO and Parasyte become harem, Tex is just grimdark.

Others are just boring bad. They're stupid, but nothing interesting going on like Date A Live II.


Why u hate Tex so much ?

It's deep .

At least I think so .
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Mar 3, 2016 3:35 AM

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Disappointingly Bad = SAO, K-On, Love Live etc.
Bad Bad = Diabolik Lovers
So Bad that its good = Jojo Bizarre Adventure
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Mar 3, 2016 3:54 AM

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When they call an anime that you like shit and you know you can't say anything about it ............
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Mar 3, 2016 4:51 AM

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Well I only have 'it simply bad' and just like that. I've ever heard about this and I read that from some post in this thread too but I haven't found something so called 'so bad it's good' yet to be honest.

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Mar 3, 2016 4:57 AM

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There're the animes it makes you cool if you say it's bad (Charlotte, SAO etc.) and the shit you don't even talk about :D
Mar 3, 2016 4:58 AM

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yeah there is plenty types of "bad" it can be because:
- bad animation and annoying voice actors
- plot holes everywhere or plot total bs
- too many cliche characters, scenes
- has good idea but bad story flow
Mar 3, 2016 11:36 AM

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@-Senpai-

No senpai, this time you're wrong. Much like SAO, it had a bunch of potential all to be thrown away.
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SodiumChloride said:
TheBrainintheJar said:
How can a show 'want to be bad'? Every show wants to be good.

There are bad shows that offend me, shows that are moronic and pretentiousness. Texhnolyze, SAO and so far Parasyte fit. They start off as serious, but completely lose it. SAO and Parasyte become harem, Tex is just grimdark.

Others are just boring bad. They're stupid, but nothing interesting going on like Date A Live II.


Why u hate Tex so much ?

It's deep .

At least I think so .


Stoic faces and bloody violence looks like a desperate attempt to be mature.
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I have seen only SAO... But I would not consider it to be bad... It is just that being a plot driven anime, it is an average anime which has less qualitative meaning than many other animes like FMAB or AoT or Naruto...
Mar 3, 2016 11:38 PM

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Something like that :

Utsu Musume Sayuri - So bad it's actually pretty funny
Pupa - Bad cuz disgusting
Kill la Kill - Bad cuz bad
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