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| THIS IS AN ANIME ONLY DISCUSSION POST. DO NOT DISCUSS THE MANGA BEYOND THIS EPISODE. ---------------------------------------- Hmm an episode that focuses more on the teacher and not only that, I think there's a strange feeling about the events that transited into this episode. Haruta's thinking also unites the group together as a club that's been growing so far.  |
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| Wow, who would've thought "something" like that would happen to the teacher? And it's just at the first minute. Total riot after knowing the cause for it. Kaiyu really helps this duo HaruChika though, what a relief. New "hot" girl appeared in the episode, and it's the class president or maybe Teacher Ogawara?. LOL  And that stupid Haruta's question about "looking at pictures of female students in class" by looking at Chika directly. LOL |
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| I hafta think there's something of a cultural disconnect with the big twist going on in this episode. The idea that having a friggin' tattoo would be enough to undo a student teacher's life for, at minimum, one year is both insulting and moronic, and even a bit infuriating. Would such a thing carry that much weight here? I can't imagine that to be the case. Damn social stigmatisms. So yeah, didn't enjoy how this episode played out. Oh well, giant fluffy dog next week at least. |
| I am at a loss of words. Why would a tattoo at a location that can't be seen be a problem? Why would a tattoo be a problem at all? I now many people think of Tattoo's as bad things but they aren't unless it's a tattoo of something bad like a Swastika. But what matters is the persons personality and their ability too teach or do their job and from what i could tell the student teacher was doing a pretty good judging from the students where saying about her. And speaking of people with tattoos the current Prime Minister of Canada has a tattoo and rumour has it that Winston Churchill used to have a tattoo and he was a capable leader. Regarding the voyeurism that's something for worse then a tattoo and it's also illegal. It's pretty sad when you are more worried over a tattoo then worried over a voyeur. |
Aversa said: I am at a loss of words. Why would a tattoo at a location that can't be seen be a problem? Why would a tattoo be a problem at all? I now many people think of Tattoo's as bad things but they aren't unless it's a tattoo of something bad like a Swastika. But what matters is the persons personality and their ability too teach or do their job and from what i could tell the student teacher was doing a pretty good judging from the students where saying about her. And speaking of people with tattoos the current Prime Minister of Canada has a tattoo and rumour has it that Winston Churchill used to have a tattoo and he was a capable leader. Regarding the voyeurism that's something for worse then a tattoo and it's also illegal. It's pretty sad when you are more worried over a tattoo then worried over a voyeur. Fullback tattoo It's very synonymous with yakuza |
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Rorek said: I know but that still doesn't mean she is a bad person or incapable of doing her job.Aversa said: I am at a loss of words. Why would a tattoo at a location that can't be seen be a problem? Why would a tattoo be a problem at all? I now many people think of Tattoo's as bad things but they aren't unless it's a tattoo of something bad like a Swastika. But what matters is the persons personality and their ability too teach or do their job and from what i could tell the student teacher was doing a pretty good judging from the students where saying about her. And speaking of people with tattoos the current Prime Minister of Canada has a tattoo and rumour has it that Winston Churchill used to have a tattoo and he was a capable leader. Regarding the voyeurism that's something for worse then a tattoo and it's also illegal. It's pretty sad when you are more worried over a tattoo then worried over a voyeur. Fullback tattoo It's very synonymous with yakuza Besides most people have done something wrong in their life the point is that she realises what she has done and she is trying to become a better person. She learned from her mistake and i think that's something that will make her a great teacher. |
| Well, Japan is strict when it comes to teachers having tattoos. Can be a bad example for students, I guess. Still feel the teachers deserve some privacy though. That was another great episode. Loved when Sakai sensei said that he will keep a spot open for Ogawara next year. She can come back, nice! |
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| Liked this episode more than the previous ones. I'm surprised no case has taken at least two episodes to solve :/ |
| nice chap, but i wanna see the tatoo. Was hard to Haru resolve this time. |
| I am Argentine, so is not very good my English, sorry for the many typing errors. |
| This was another 'okay' episode. The photo of the brass band changed again. =D  |
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| Is that kid supposed to be the grey haired version of Haruta? Goddamnit he pisses me off already Still best episode so far animefan8800 said: I hafta think there's something of a cultural disconnect with the big twist going on in this episode. The idea that having a friggin' tattoo would be enough to undo a student teacher's life for, at minimum, one year is both insulting and moronic, and even a bit infuriating. Would such a thing carry that much weight here? I can't imagine that to be the case. Damn social stigmatisms. So yeah, didn't enjoy how this episode played out. Oh well, giant fluffy dog next week at least. TragicRomance said: I don't think it has anything to with her being a teacherWell, Japan is strict when it comes to teachers having tattoos. Can be a bad example for students, I guess. Still feel the teachers deserve some privacy though. That was another great episode. Loved when Sakai sensei said that he will keep a spot open for Ogawara next year. She can come back, nice! In Japan fullback tattoos (and tattoos in general I think) are strongly associated with the yakuza/Japanese mafia and so there is a stigma against them Example |
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Comic_Sans said: Is that kid supposed to be the grey haired version of Haruta? Goddamnit he pisses me off already Still best episode so far animefan8800 said: I hafta think there's something of a cultural disconnect with the big twist going on in this episode. The idea that having a friggin' tattoo would be enough to undo a student teacher's life for, at minimum, one year is both insulting and moronic, and even a bit infuriating. Would such a thing carry that much weight here? I can't imagine that to be the case. Damn social stigmatisms. So yeah, didn't enjoy how this episode played out. Oh well, giant fluffy dog next week at least. TragicRomance said: I don't think it has anything to with her being a teacherWell, Japan is strict when it comes to teachers having tattoos. Can be a bad example for students, I guess. Still feel the teachers deserve some privacy though. That was another great episode. Loved when Sakai sensei said that he will keep a spot open for Ogawara next year. She can come back, nice! In Japan fullback tattoos (and tattoos in general I think) are strongly associated with the yakuza/Japanese mafia and so there is a stigma against them Example So if she was trying to hold ANY occupation outside yakuza her life's pretty much over, or at best on hold because...gasp! tattoo! It's still bullshit either way. |
| I knew it had to be a tattoo as they were talking about the heat and seeing through something that shouldn't have been seen. Plus, she was pretty much portrayed as a delinquent in the past. An injury or surgical scar wouldn't have been that bad to reveal, while it might be personal. But I know that tattoos are big no-no in Japan, you're usually rejected to go to an onsen if you have a tattoo. My sister told me this because she said she wanted to get a tattoo, but most likely after she has visited an onsen in Japan first, lol. This is pretty informative. http://www.kashiwaya.org/e/magazine/onsen/tattoos.html I can understand the "irrationality" of Japan regarding tattoos because there's historical/societal basis. And tbh, there are similar circumstances like this where someone is judged for something else they've done but it doesn't affect how well the person can do their job. Really enjoyed this episode, for some reason I felt emotional towards the end of the episode when the student teacher realized the truth behind the teacher's suspension. I sympathized with how regretful she was over her past, and she's just trying to go on the right path, yet at the same time, she hurt her teacher who gave her the chance. There will always be people, or that one person, in your life that forgives you and wishes to see succeed. I got teary-eyed when the teacher told her that he'll always leave a spot open for her. |
| Come on this was lame! they can dump you from your job for having art on your OWN body? what's with that shitty logic? Tattoos are going way way way back in history and even far-er if we count tattoos without the use of nail like tools or smth. It is as normal as wearing hairpins or some shit. I hate such people who judge you by your hair or your clothes and all and decide on that if you should have a job.. go rot away in a damn trash container... Seriously now.. this makes me angry to the maximum. A tattoo? hello! a tattoo? idiotic idiotic idioticcccccc also for the Yakuza thing, if Japan didn't regard it as such a big deal more people would get tattoos and therefore the image of a (big) tattoo being the symbol of yakuza would disappear. Even if Yakuza have it who cares! It's art dang it! it's like makeup for the body! and it's not only Yakuza! -.- I'm out, gotta watch smth else to calm head. But having a tattoo is not wrong nor a mistake.. Having a something against tattoos just because someone chose to use that as a symbol is stupid. If it's a literal logo okay but come on tattoo's in general? that's really idiotic |
projectfear22Mar 2, 2016 3:32 PM
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| The whole tattoo thing makes since in Japanese culture. Some like that would be considered ridiculous here though. Decent episode overall. 3/5 |
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| Interesting episode. Kaiyu's helped on the case too, and he proves to be pretty reliable in these types of situations. Nice to see the student-teacher's realized for the better from her teacher's actions. |
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| Looks like Kaiyuu is a smart one as well. Or at least, interesting. Overall, a solid episode. projectfear22 said: Come on this was lame! they can dump you from your job for having art on your OWN body? what's with that shitty logic? Tattoos are going way way way back in history and even far-er if we count tattoos without the use of nail like tools or smth. It is as normal as wearing hairpins or some shit. I hate such people who judge you by your hair or your clothes and all and decide on that if you should have a job.. go rot away in a damn trash container... Seriously now.. this makes me angry to the maximum. A tattoo? hello! a tattoo? idiotic idiotic idioticcccccc also for the Yakuza thing, if Japan didn't regard it as such a big deal more people would get tattoos and therefore the image of a (big) tattoo being the symbol of yakuza would disappear. Even if Yakuza have it who cares! It's art dang it! it's like makeup for the body! and it's not only Yakuza! -.- I'm out, gotta watch smth else to calm head. But having a tattoo is not wrong nor a mistake.. Having a something against tattoos just because someone chose to use that as a symbol is stupid. If it's a literal logo okay but come on tattoo's in general? that's really idiotic Tell that to Japan. |
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| Sakai Sensei is waiting for her return T__T |
| good episode was actually able to catch on for once without been spoon fed by Haru's detective skills, and while the reveal wasn't nearly as big of a idea with us in the west the Bad stigma regarding tatoo's in japan is quite large and bad especially for someone trying to be a teacher. sometimes your past just catches up to you in the worst ways |
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Pen3 said: animefan8800 said: So if she was trying to hold ANY occupation outside yakuza her life's pretty much over, or at best on hold because...gasp! tattoo! It's still bullshit either way. Its cultural difference dude, get over it. Just like eating dog or cows is acceptable in some places and taboo in others. Maybe worry about fixing your own culture first than think about others. I'm aware, doesn't make it right, nor above criticism, dude. If I shouldn't think about other cultures why watch anime at all? |
| I thought it was gonna be a student's c-section scar. |
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ReaperCreeper said: Same here....Can't believe that a tatoo would cause so much damage I thought it was gonna be a student's c-section scar. Either way that peeping student is pretty slick with her methods lol |
| wow, all this because of a tattoo, that's pretty ridiculous. |
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| Kusakabe-sensei is down! Nothing too serious it seems, as he had been overworking himself in order to help out a friend and a band in need. If I were a band teacher in that situation, and a rival competitive school desperately needed someone to supervise or direct, I would help out. It’s a good thing to do for the betterment of music education, and it’s at no fault of the students who would be left behind. Not as if Haru & Chika are giving Kusakabe any less to worry about though! Damn kids, stop meddling so much! The tattoo could be linked to a bigger, more realistic, problem. Just having a tattoo isn't enough by itself. There's the possibility of a gang connection. Which also, if she has turned herself around, isn't that big of a deal. But it would be pretty problematic news for the school employing her if she had been convicted of any crimes and failed to mention them. It’s completely understandable that Sakai-sensei would take the suspension over ruining his now turned-around student’s life.  I'm just gonna stay here. I deserve it. |
| Just mentally substitute "tattoo" with something else that wouldn't fly for a teacher in whatever country you live in. It's not that hard, every culture has weird rules of what's acceptable and what isn't. |
Aversa said: It is quite the stigma actually. It also depends on tatoo in question but it is fairly suggested that the tatoo she has is involved with delinquent activities which clearly don't sit well with the teacher job.I am at a loss of words. Why would a tattoo at a location that can't be seen be a problem? Why would a tattoo be a problem at all? I now many people think of Tattoo's as bad things but they aren't unless it's a tattoo of something bad like a Swastika. But what matters is the persons personality and their ability too teach or do their job and from what i could tell the student teacher was doing a pretty good judging from the students where saying about her. And speaking of people with tattoos the current Prime Minister of Canada has a tattoo and rumour has it that Winston Churchill used to have a tattoo and he was a capable leader. Regarding the voyeurism that's something for worse then a tattoo and it's also illegal. It's pretty sad when you are more worried over a tattoo then worried over a voyeur. Anyway this case was fairly dark, and to think that this kind of thing can happen irl is downright disturbing. That aside.........I still happen to enjoy the fact that both Haruta and Chika remain as usual with their constant bickering. I love the way that both of them are portrayed since they act as pretty normal teenagers. That Haruta question there LOL!!! |
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| That was a rather immediate start This anime looks really pretty. I wish it had a better sort of plot. At least there was some process invloved in solving the mystery this time. At least Haruta didn't get after being given two bits of useless info. This has a romace tag. This has no romance. This was an ok episode. |
| sensei is overworked and seriously all that just because she has a tattoo -_- |
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| Kinda enjoyed this episode, much better than the previous one at least. The case was interesting and not difficult to figure out. |
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| That's it? All that just for a tattoo? lol Okay episode, lots of loose ends left untied though... |
| After a lot of bad episodes this one was watchable... |
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bittersweetlove said: After a lot of bad episodes this one was watchable... Yeah true that! The mystery was actually good and I enjoyed the character interactions a lot this time around. |
| Some people really need to understand that there is something called "cultural differences". Btw, these last 2 episodes seems like fillers until they compete in a performance. |
| Narratively you could do better, at least sink the shot at the decisive moment, however, it was decided otherwise, what a pity! So the story is a bit bland whole. The comic part is not bad, good technical and graphic level, but this series is not one of the best made by PA Works. The question is: can change how often they want the opening, but if you never talk about music and the students who join the group, it's useless this effort. LOL! Haruta, should not participate in more than just the narrative. ^^" |
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| Well this was fucking stupid. The tattoo thing makes sense only for Japanese, I guess. They think everyone who has tattoos are criminals. Tfw you can't go to a japanese public bath because you have a tattoo. |
| I feel like logic totally went out the door with this episode. I already know about the huge negative social stigma with tattoos in Japan, but maybe this is just me trying to give the faculty there the benefit of the doubt. I mean, if the girl got it when she was young, was in the process of getting it removed, so not much was even left, and even with her light colored shirt on you needed a fucking infrared camera to see it, then I don't see why she would need to temporarily quit her job over it. Not to mention that she went the extra mile to always keep it covered around her students. Even if the faculty didn't approve of it, I couldn't see them not being at least a bit rational and accommodating. I really don't see how they could flatly say "nope, tattoo, gtfo". Not only that, but it's like the bad girl Amadeus got away with it. She was peeping with an IR camera and invading privacy, which is illegal. She blackmailed Sakai with the photo and he was suspended. In the end she was never suspended, and we don't know the result of Ogawara going to talk to her. But for all we know, she never deleted any of those photos. Especially since Ogawara still quit being a student teacher. If the bad girl deleted her photos, then nobody would even know she had the tattoo anymore and wouldn't be called into question to begin with. |
| I think a lot of people are missing that the implication here is that Ogawara really did have crime/possible yakuza connections. It's not just the tattoo that's the problem, it's what it represents. She didn't enter university until she was 26 and it's implied that she has a past she wants to get away from. C'mon guys. |
| Japanese viewers were suspecting it was a tattoo before it was revealed. |
| My only question is: Is it really a big deal if you have a yakuza tatoo highschooler??!? 4/5. |
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| Another great episode! There hasn't really been a disappointing episode yet. This was probably one of the best purely for the mystery aspect which was quite well developed. The reaction to it being a tattoo was kind of odd, but hey, different cultures! Even without the mysteries, its just fun to watch all the characters to interact. They know how to hit the perfect emotional cues in most of the episodes, and the series is stronger for it. |
| An episode about a teacher this time, it was nice overall |
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