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Jan 31, 2016 12:24 AM

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Great episode. Good action and there's a very tense atmosphere after the previous episode especially for what happened between Aina and Fumitan already.

I liked the fight in space in the second half with Gjallarhorn involved again. Mika kicking some ass a usual. Exciting. Dat Aina TV broadcast though.
 
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Jan 31, 2016 1:48 AM

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Great episide, and sweet sweet long-awaited Kudelia's development who's started showing what she's really got, yay! That iron resolve left even Mika impressed (and possibly wanting to match it? if we go by his "I feel irritated"). Also, a daring and calculated move on Kudelia's part to try and use Gordon, looks like she'll be winning him over for real to a degree if his comment about her showing signs of growing even more is anything to go by.

The staged massacre really doesn't sit well with Gaelio, and it's somehow good know. Also, it was nice to see Ein being loyal enough to forget about revenge in time to protect Gaelio.

Mika naming Gaelio "Gali-Gali" and Gaelio's subsequent "You're doing it on purpose, arent' you?!" was so hilarious, despite them being in the middle of a deathfightXD
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Jan 31, 2016 2:31 AM

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I guess this is the turning point episode which lead everyone to their respective fate and future. I mean seriously, EVERYONE. Princess Kudelia standing up, Mikazuki's forever follow Orga start to waver and have his own will bit by bit. And other people also.

Sadly i can pretty much see how this gundam series will end, everyone will die and the last man standing type who is Kudelia.
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Jan 31, 2016 2:41 AM

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in order to change something, there must be sacrifices.
damn war. what will come to the last moment is tragedy only.
I like theres no laser shit in this series. battles with modern weapons are hardcore.
next ep seems to focus on the homo couple.
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Jan 31, 2016 3:06 AM

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My favorite episode in a while. The worker revolution aspect is done really well in this show, and this episode makes that very clear. Additionally, the combat is amazing in this episode. It seems Kudelia's arc has reached its climax, as the revolution truly begins. Also, that guy going full Gai Daigoji and naming his mech like a Super Robot or something was really amusing.

...That said, some of the elements that bother me are still present. People still keep talking about how great Mika is, and he still has had no difficulties with his battles. He still has little to no personality, and is still stoic. This makes, in my opinion, for a very boring MC. The forced exposition, although subdued, is still very much there (seriously, for what reason would Gaelio scream to himself that the Kimaris was taken from his family treasury? Couldn't they just have McGillis explain it later on? It'd still be exposition, but it wouldn't be nearly as forced). However, these faults are overshadowed by how good this episode is. I do hope future episodes will be able to do the same.
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Jan 31, 2016 3:15 AM

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Previously: Atra and Kudelia have both been picked up and carried by Mikazuki.

Today:
Gaelio: Let me go, you space rat.
Mikazuki: This voice. The chocolate guy's...
Gaelio: I'm Gaelio Bauduin
Mikazuki: Gali Gali?

Mikazuki the assertive alpha.
 
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Jan 31, 2016 3:16 AM

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Wooo Gusion Gundam <3
Easily the best part of this episode

Lately this anime has been more exciting to watch, just I expected.

Hope Fareed's personal MS with Gundam Frame comes fast.
 
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Jan 31, 2016 3:29 AM

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Great episode. Damn Gjallhorn. That was a massacre out there.
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Jan 31, 2016 3:34 AM
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Time for some good old Gundam vs Gundam action, politics, revolution...SIEG ZEON! Gundam Kimaris and Gusion Rebake were both awesome, dat Kudelia though...

 
Jan 31, 2016 3:59 AM
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Another great watch and tense episode. First Chocolate Man, now Gali Gali. Starting to see Mikazuki come more into his own in making his own decisions, Orga the one asking Mika questions this episode. Also there's Mika feeling frustrated. Wonder how that will turn out in the next 8 episodes. Always excited to see what Mikazuki will do next. Kudelia getting to show off her power in the political field.

I thought the revenge crazy Ein was dead for a moment.
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Jan 31, 2016 4:11 AM

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The Kudelia show has begun!
 
Jan 31, 2016 4:19 AM

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Okay, Im now a fan of both the OP/ED

And damn that battle scene was so awesome to watch, so happy that Mika now has a battle squad out there with him.

Does anyone know when the DUB is going to air? I'm preying it's done well then this will be the best package to go on my shelf

5/5
 
Jan 31, 2016 4:31 AM

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Time for some good old Gundam vs Gundam action, politics, revolution...SIEG ZEON! Gundam Kimaris and Gusion Rebake were both awesome, dat Kudelia though...

Loved this shot of her lol

This episode was very powerful and I loved it

Everything turned into complete chaos and just seeing all of the death and destruction followed by Gjallarhorn showcasing once more just how corrupt and disgusting they are by setting up all those people in Mobile Suits really pissed me off to no end

Thankfully Tekkadan decided to do something about it with persuasion from Kudelia who btw had some amazing character development in this episode and made me so freaking proud....I'm seriously looking forward to seeing this speech and where her character goes but as of right now, I'm loving the change - Props to the news station for doing a part to make things fair too

The battle scenes were great as usual with Mika going in on these guys.....I respect Gali Gali for being against his groups disgusting actions (But my god that name lol...Mika needs to chill xD) however sadly his grudge got the best of him.....

I was surprised to see that not only does Kimaris belong to his family, but all of the 72 Gundams were the same machines used by Gjallarhorn during the war etc as well as to see how good Gali Gali was with it (Although I guess you can put this down as being a type advantage type of thing)

However, good old Akihiro plus Gusion came to the rescue with the help of the other guy and they REKT them all real good :D My only question here though is who are these other forces that arrived again? They're the earth forces right? Because that fleet is huge lol

Overall great episode and I can't wait to see the conclusion of this arc....Plus I better see some Orga x Merribit scenes soon :(
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Jan 31, 2016 4:43 AM

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I like it, but I'm still having a difficult time adjusting to Mobile Suit battles without the usual pew-pew-pew.

I wonder what kind of deal(s) Kudelia made with Nobliss for her television appearance to happen.

That massacre though. It's like some sick game for them. I approve.
 
Jan 31, 2016 4:52 AM

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Why does it always feel like the episode is so short. That episode was MAJESTIC. So now 3 Gundams fight against one another. Nothing against that :D. That ED is sooo fucking awesome I can't stop listening to it. Kudelia did great in this episode. How will the reporters crew live though. I don't think they will be able to drop them somewhere since the Gjallarhorn are against them. The situation is not good at all. I believe either Naze will go help them, or the McGillis will help them against Gjallarhorn.
 
Jan 31, 2016 5:02 AM
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Dat Kudelia body shot.
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Jan 31, 2016 5:05 AM

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I just love the small changes in the opening, now we have kudelia holding the pendant and we don't have more Fumitan and Merribit instead on Mika's lauching sequence....
 
Jan 31, 2016 5:07 AM

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Really intense. Loved the action and the Kudelia development AND SEXY BODY :L.

Atra got quite a few shots of her looking in admiration toward Kudelia. I wonder if that'll mean something in the future?

Glad Orga was able to contact Naze and take his permission before all that. I wouldn't want some drama shit to happen between these bros.

That Kimari's friggin fast. Damn! Mika's got nothing on him right now. More level ups incoming. LOL'd at Gali Gali XD

I wonder who painted Ryusei-go pinkish red :P Why do I have a feeling it's someone gay for Shino *wink wink*

Ein's a bitch with his Krank-san this Krank-san that XD

Gusion Rebake looks awesome. Akihiro should've kept the jet hammer tho :/
I wonder who performed the AV surgery on him?

PV was gay XD
 
Jan 31, 2016 5:15 AM

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wow
doki doki my heart is beating fast this episode was powerful.with action
orga smart like always and kudeia doing what he has to do
every chapter is better than the after one
 
Jan 31, 2016 5:23 AM

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Really really intense episode. Battle scenes are always welcomed.


I'm very proud of my Kudelia who used Gordon, I wonder what she told him to make him agree.... Looking forward to her speech which will be after a LONG LONG week....
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Jan 31, 2016 5:23 AM
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FANTASTIC EPISODE. Love the action and the begin for Kudelia's show. I'm looking forward for her TV speech.
Mika and his nicknames.. Gali-Gali is so funny hahahaha

Im just loving how the facts are going. The development is amazing.

Next episode we have some development for homo couple.
 
Jan 31, 2016 5:33 AM

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fuck that was amazing dat massacre doe
 
Jan 31, 2016 6:59 AM

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Goodness, that was intense. I thought someone important was going to di- well, that still looks like that'll likely happen around the next episode. Anyways, good luck, Kudelia. She's finally getting things in gear. I'm excited to see what's in store for the next episode.
 
Jan 31, 2016 7:17 AM

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Great episode! Corrupt state of Gjallarhorn really pisses me off. The poor union workers were sacrificed for their shet ;;; I want to know what Chocolate Man's agenda is for Gjallarhorn.

I almost snorted when Kudelia said no one would listen to her if she won't fight because I'm one of those non-listeners. I thought she was cool during that scene, but what can she do alone really? The broadcast scene gave me a little bit of hope. Actions speak louder than words. Good luck to her.

The scene with Mika saying he's frustrated got to me though. My guess is that he's frustrated at himself for not being able to make his own decisions and judgements, unlike the "new" Kudelia. I mean, we even saw him depend on Orga again. Just like how Kudelia got character development out of Fumitan's death, Orga has to die for Mika's character development. That's my guess. I don't want Orga to die though..

Gali Gali cracked me up. Never give your huge ass complicated names to Mika. The way he processes them, in his brain, will fascinate you LOL

Gordon is such a creepy old man qwq The fan edited pics of him, on twitter, in the sauna watching Kudelia dress up in a suit scarred me *shivers*
 
Jan 31, 2016 7:40 AM

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I didn't expect the worker's mobile suits to be rigged to be useless, Gjallarhorn are just plain evil and a tad worse than Zanscare. The broadcast is a good turning point for the second season, I expect civil war out of this and maybe uprisings on Earth if there is a second season.

Ryusei-Go looks awesome and performs pretty good, and shark pink is a badass color, looks like Gjallarhorn have no taste in paint schemes either, but the Gusion Rebake is even better but it looks pretty out of place despite how awesome it is, it would fit in perfectly in Wing as a Gundam in disguise due to it's simplistic grunt design.


 
Jan 31, 2016 7:58 AM
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Basukesu-GE said:
Time for some good old Gundam vs Gundam action, politics, revolution...SIEG ZEON! Gundam Kimaris and Gusion Rebake were both awesome, dat Kudelia though...



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Dat Kudelia body shot.


yeah, x3

Gali gali moment was funny xd
 
Jan 31, 2016 8:22 AM

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One hell of an entertaining episode!
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Jan 31, 2016 8:44 AM
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just right when it was about to get really good can't wait for next weeks episode.
 
Jan 31, 2016 8:59 AM

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The best scene in this episode,
Gusion rebake head's mechanics
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Jan 31, 2016 9:06 AM

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Really good episode. That Kudelia body shot, Though for some reason I've always found her hairstyle weird, It curves in some sort of inexplicable way xD

New Gundam Frames :D, I always love seeing new Gundam's. They always look Cool :P
The Char-like guy seems to know the history behind the Gundam frames. So they were all manufactured by Gjallarhorn and protected the Earth together, Would love to know the full history behind the different Gundam frames in existence.

Really looking forward to Kudelia's speech, She has this real air of determination, conviction and an earnest desire to help the people around her now. Compared to before where she wasn't really completely aware of the gravity of the situation . That's some excellent development. Go Kudelia!
 
Jan 31, 2016 9:29 AM
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Kudelia is going to be the best ojou-sama in the Gundam franchise. I'm looking forward for this <3
 
Jan 31, 2016 10:33 AM

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Looks like Gusion has been totally rebaked. Hahaha.
I kinda wished they kept its old frame... but now its looks more Gundam-ish.

Can't wait to see more space battles, since we haven't had those in a while.
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Haters gonna hate. Like this reviewer and his bandwagoners.



Anyways, this is the best mecha anime series in many years. Another good episode. Liked the changes in the opening sequence but what I am looking forward to the most is Kudelia's speech. Those Kudelia eyes with determination. Damn, Kudelia looks to have matured by several years in an instant.

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Jan 31, 2016 11:32 AM

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Corrupt government slamming down on it's own population for standing up for themselves, while using the media to push a false narrative to lull the masses into complacency.
It's always funny when anime reflects what is currently happening in reality.

Seems like the plot finally s picking up pace, about time.

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Jan 31, 2016 12:28 PM

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The battles in this episode were so intense!

The workers' mobile suits are so useless!
 
Jan 31, 2016 1:06 PM

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it's like this episode had all the good shit from the last one without all the bad parts

except they had dat kudelia and the Gusion on top of that. only question now is can they keep it up
 
Jan 31, 2016 2:07 PM
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I like how Gaelio says that he doesn't want to participate in such a foul operation, at least it shows not everyone in the Gjallorhorn don't think for themselves. (lol Gali Gali tho)

Kudelia's development has been really good. After seeing even more of the reality, she understands that her words will have no weight on people in Earth if she's doesn't save people who are oppressed not only on Mars, but other places. At first she was more idealistic, but now she's becoming more realistic about her plans. Even if there's no guarantee that this way will work either, but it's nice too see Kudelia solidifying her plans and position.
 
Jan 31, 2016 4:43 PM

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Action packed episode is kudelia's time to shine. WWWOOOOOO I'm so pumped!!!
 
Jan 31, 2016 5:10 PM

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I really love this conspiracy angle they are going for with the fabricated media and sabotaged attacks, and it really looks like mcgillis and crew are against those actions so i really look foreword to how they all coincide with eachother eventually

Great episode, it was very exciting from start to finish and it looks like my biggest problem with the show is getting some fixing with kudelia finally doing something.

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Kudelia is going to be the best ojou-sama in the Gundam franchise. I'm looking forward for this <3


I don't know Dianna Soriel is pretty hard to top.
 
Jan 31, 2016 8:55 PM

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Ryusei Go OMG

Gusion Rebake OMG

Kudelia making her stand YAY
 
Jan 31, 2016 9:32 PM

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Great episode and it's good to see that Kudelia's former financier wasn't easily tricked.
 
Jan 31, 2016 11:15 PM
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Woohoo! Go Guison Rebake! Mika needed a shield. ^_^

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Celinha87 said:
Kudelia is going to be the best ojou-sama in the Gundam franchise. I'm looking forward for this <3


I don't know Dianna Soriel is pretty hard to top.

Agreed with Dianna <3. Kudelia still has room to grow though. Let's see if she can be as great (or maybe greater) than the Queen of the Moonrace.
 
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Wooooooow what an episode! Very good action and all the new mobile suits <3___<3 The plot went on well too and in a good way. The soundtrack went to awesome levels too - is there anything bad to say about this episode? Not from my point of view.

DAT GUSION :o I love it. (Although I'm kinda skeptical it's Gusion reBAKE, more like reWAKE. Although I'm pretty sure I heard べ in there.)

5/5
 
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Tokoya said:
Basukesu-GE said:
Time for some good old Gundam vs Gundam action, politics, revolution...SIEG ZEON! Gundam Kimaris and Gusion Rebake were both awesome, dat Kudelia though...

Loved this shot of her lol

This episode was very powerful and I loved it

Everything turned into complete chaos and just seeing all of the death and destruction followed by Gjallarhorn showcasing once more just how corrupt and disgusting they are by setting up all those people in Mobile Suits really pissed me off to no end

Thankfully Tekkadan decided to do something about it with persuasion from Kudelia who btw had some amazing character development in this episode and made me so freaking proud....I'm seriously looking forward to seeing this speech and where her character goes but as of right now, I'm loving the change - Props to the news station for doing a part to make things fair too

The battle scenes were great as usual with Mika going in on these guys.....I respect Gali Gali for being against his groups disgusting actions (But my god that name lol...Mika needs to chill xD) however sadly his grudge got the best of him.....

I was surprised to see that not only does Kimaris belong to his family, but all of the 72 Gundams were the same machines used by Gjallarhorn during the war etc as well as to see how good Gali Gali was with it (Although I guess you can put this down as being a type advantage type of thing)

However, good old Akihiro plus Gusion came to the rescue with the help of the other guy and they REKT them all real good :D My only question here though is who are these other forces that arrived again? They're the earth forces right? Because that fleet is huge lol

Overall great episode and I can't wait to see the conclusion of this arc....Plus I better see some Orga x Merribit scenes soon :(

"Loved this shot of her lol

This episode was very powerful and I loved it"
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Great episode!
Story development for Kudelia and more badass mobile suits ;)
 
Feb 1, 2016 6:16 AM

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Great episode. More Kudelia love. <3
 
Feb 1, 2016 6:21 AM

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Now this is Gundam! Two new Gundam Frames make their combat appearance, in addition to a really odd Graze. The combat scenes were definitely worthy of praise. Lovely Kudelia moments as well (in the sense of character development and fanservice).

An excellent episode.
 
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Tarotist said:


Kaioshin_Sama said:


I don't know Dianna Soriel is pretty hard to top.

Agreed with Dianna <3. Kudelia still has room to grow though. Let's see if she can be as great (or maybe greater) than the Queen of the Moonrace.


Wow! I haven't watched Turn A Gundam, so I don't know much about Dianna Soriel, more than the spoilers. I need to watch this series! However, I always thought that Kudelia's style is similar to the Kihel Heim's. They are so chic! <3
 
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DAMN! the action was freaking awsome!
and that three Gundam is so cool!
i can't wait to see what is Kudelia's plan :D
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