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Jan 21, 2016 7:36 PM
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paraze said:
But please Kayo, stop being a super psychoanalyst who analyses body language extremely well, I mean, you're just a 10 years old.


Abused children have an extremely good ability to read body language, after all their lives, or at least the avoidance of a lot of pain, depends on it.

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But please, mangaka / A-1, stop making us hate her mother in that way, that's too cheap, too easy. It reminds me a bit of..., I want to forget it. The mom characterization so far: "I'm evil cause i'm evil and so you can hate me". You know, in such a show, a character shouldn't be black or white, or at least give us a reason, justify why they act this way. Just few hints.


The situation pretty much sums it up. The mother isn't evil, she is just pathetic. The setting is a northern rural town in Japan. The row housing they live in suggests that the town used to house a major mine or related factory, but one that has closed, leaving a slowly dying town behind. The mother, probably from a mining family, was beaten by her parents, wanting to escape she was easily seduced by someone who abandoned her once he learned she was pregnant - had the child been a son she might have been able to get some support from her parents, but that is not the case. Desperate to hold on to the little she has, she defends the man who beats her and her daughter. Her story is so typical that hate is the wrong emotion for her, pity is more appropriate (and in a way cruel).

The really sad thing is that Kayo is probably better off with her mother than if she was taken by social services. There are very few good foster families anywhere in the world, and in such a rural part of Japan 20 years ago, there was less than a few. Kayo I think knows this, which is why she bears with it. If A-1 really wanted you to hate the mother, then they should have the boyfriend sexually molest Kayo. That is not uncommon in such situations.

It is not difficult to imagine such situations, though like you, I generally prefer not to be reminded that such things exist. That said, so far this animation is balancing things quite nicely, they haven't yet descended into blatant pandering; the idea that a child would not have noticed such things, but an adult would have is an interesting interpretation, and I hope that the story will justify the story.
 
Jan 21, 2016 7:40 PM

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A little touch of Steins;gate and some school :D Fun for all the family friends!
 
Jan 21, 2016 7:41 PM

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I just noticed that one of the girls that was killed looks a lot like one of Satorou's female friend. And I kinda a bit suspicious of the teacher; actually I was already suspicious the first time I layed eyes on him. I hope Im wrong because that wouldnt be surprising if he really was the culprit.

Im starting to get too hype about this anime. I dont want to be too hopeful because most of the time I end up being disappointed. Im considering putting this on-hold for now and just watch it after it finished airing, but I also want to know what happened next week sigh. And damn, that ending theme will be stuck in my head for days again.
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Jan 21, 2016 7:42 PM

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Beautiful episode. the mom part was really sad and judging from how it ended, incoming feels for sure.
 
Jan 21, 2016 7:47 PM

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That was a powerful episode
I don't think I've ever wanted to hurt a character more then I wanted to hurt Kayo's bitch of a mom
How the fuck could you do that to your child!!
I did enjoy her smile at the end....
Satourou,SAVE HER!!
 
Jan 21, 2016 7:57 PM

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that was heartwarming, the last scene with the tree.

the teacher and the blond kid though *stares*
 
Jan 21, 2016 8:09 PM
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Another great episode, loved that she finally smiled :D
 
Jan 21, 2016 8:09 PM

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Now we know the direction of this anime, his ability is going to make him correct the mistakes of past. If he succeeds, it may also unlock a person who may very well be his soul-mate, she is the one that must be saved. It is daunting task for a kid of that age to try to convince his elders to believe what says or what he says has any merit. It seems like he saving 3 lives. (1) One falsely accused of murder, (2) The girl he was meant to save, (3) His own mother. To alter the timeline means changing the outcome of his future present.
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Jan 21, 2016 8:24 PM

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pls I'm gonna cry.
 
Jan 21, 2016 8:25 PM

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I know they're just kids, but how the hell wont i ship this.
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Jan 21, 2016 8:34 PM

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I've got a feeling all the red-eyed characters are involved in the murder.
 
Jan 21, 2016 8:34 PM

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Ah, this anime. 2016's pride. See, this is how to do cliches properly:

- Time travel? Done a lot.
- Child abuse? Done even more.
- Emotional attachment with a victim? Done even more.
- Preventing a murder? Done the most.

And yet, it works. It works flawlessly. I'll sound presumptuous, but I find myself glued to the screen while it rolls and audibly sighing when it ends. It's really something else, doubt I'll be rating it below a 9/10.

That scene with the Christmas tree was simple and amazing. The scene with the abuse was hard to watch. The scene with Satoru defending Kayo was nice. I just love this.

5/5

Though I did get irritated on how Satoru lost on purpose, and I really hope the teacher isn't the killer.
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Jan 21, 2016 8:35 PM

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Boku dake ga inai machi is so good that I want to time travel to watch the next episode.
Best anime this season.

 
Jan 21, 2016 8:40 PM

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SO GOOOOOOOOOOOOODDDDDD

Satoru defending Kayo

The Fox ships them hard!!!! Dat circle <333

OMFG Kayo's mother GRRRRRRRRRRRRRRR

Red Eyes everywhere 0____0

Kenya what are you doing???
 
Jan 21, 2016 8:46 PM

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In May of 2014, I watched the Melancholy of Haruhi Suzumiya and ever since then I've been looking for an anime as good as Haruhi. If you want an idea of how much I watched look at My Anime List and every single anime I completed or started was after I watched Haruhi (not including Fairy Tail, The World God Only Knows, and all of the Pokemon crap.)

Getting back to the point, this is he first anime I've watched that gave me even a sliver of a feeling that it might be better than Haruhi. (Not one point in Steins;Gate did I think I liked it more than Haruhi and that's my second favorite anime.)

The happy and dark moments in this anime where you see him enjoying childhood once again while learning about the fucked up shit his "bae" (sorry had to use the term) went through. The perceptive and sometimes humurous narration provided by Satoru. I also forgot to mention this is a mystery and I LOVE mysteries. The setting has a lot to do with my love for this anime as well. The Disapperance of Haruhi Suzumiya took place in the winter time as well.

Since this is about the episode I guess I'll talk a bit about it. (I know I got carried away). The scene where Kayo looked she got couple of ouchies from mommy was... interesting. I don't want to say cool because that makes me seem insensitive and everyone is offended by anything these days. I love the truth more than a happy ending and I just think that showing all these dark elements makes a great story. I also felt a bit uneasy when Blondie McSmartypants was talking to the teacher. That doesn't sit well with me and now I have to wait another week (or more) to find out what the deal is.

P.S. I really don't like Yuuki. I am like 81% sure he isn't the killer but I still don't like him. He is a creepy little bitch like why would you have porn magazines in your room while a kid is in there and then not apologize the right way. Also, why is he hanging out with a 10 year old like that. It just makes me feel creeped out. I mean it's not wrong to play around with kids it just lookks wrong when he does it.
 
Jan 21, 2016 8:50 PM

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the part of ""are you stupid? its february" killed me hahahaha
 
Jan 21, 2016 8:55 PM

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My, my.
I may say I really hope that ends
well for Kayo.
But, not sure if that will happen.
 
Jan 21, 2016 8:57 PM
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Man, this anime has been so amazing. Was so freakin' angry and sad one scene and then happy and awed the next. Hinazuki's "Baka nano?" is cute :)

Kenya and the teacher at the end. Hmm..
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Jan 21, 2016 8:58 PM

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Takuan_Soho said:
paraze said:
But please Kayo, stop being a super psychoanalyst who analyses body language extremely well, I mean, you're just a 10 years old.


Abused children have an extremely good ability to read body language, after all their lives, or at least the avoidance of a lot of pain, depends on it.

paraze said:
But please, mangaka / A-1, stop making us hate her mother in that way, that's too cheap, too easy. It reminds me a bit of..., I want to forget it. The mom characterization so far: "I'm evil cause i'm evil and so you can hate me". You know, in such a show, a character shouldn't be black or white, or at least give us a reason, justify why they act this way. Just few hints.


The situation pretty much sums it up. The mother isn't evil, she is just pathetic. The setting is a northern rural town in Japan. The row housing they live in suggests that the town used to house a major mine or related factory, but one that has closed, leaving a slowly dying town behind. The mother, probably from a mining family, was beaten by her parents, wanting to escape she was easily seduced by someone who abandoned her once he learned she was pregnant - had the child been a son she might have been able to get some support from her parents, but that is not the case. Desperate to hold on to the little she has, she defends the man who beats her and her daughter. Her story is so typical that hate is the wrong emotion for her, pity is more appropriate (and in a way cruel).

The really sad thing is that Kayo is probably better off with her mother than if she was taken by social services. There are very few good foster families anywhere in the world, and in such a rural part of Japan 20 years ago, there was less than a few. Kayo I think knows this, which is why she bears with it. If A-1 really wanted you to hate the mother, then they should have the boyfriend sexually molest Kayo. That is not uncommon in such situations.

It is not difficult to imagine such situations, though like you, I generally prefer not to be reminded that such things exist. That said, so far this animation is balancing things quite nicely, they haven't yet descended into blatant pandering; the idea that a child would not have noticed such things, but an adult would have is an interesting interpretation, and I hope that the story will justify the story.

^And this is why context is important.

I actually don't mind Yuuki. He is a potential suspect, despite what we know about him, but I don't think there's anything wrong with making friends with younger kids. It's a bit unusual, and will almost certainly be seen as creepy, but his interactions seem genuine enough, and at this point, due to Satoru's maturity, he could actually become a meaningful person in his life.
 
Jan 21, 2016 9:06 PM

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Jesus I'm suspicious of every character at this rate. Shadiest one for now is the teacher though, he's creepy. Even before the ending scene, Kenya seemed a bit off too, now even more so. "Yuuki" is supposedly innocent but I'm not so sure....lmao I'm so paranoid of everyone, at one point I even considered the killer was Satoru from the future or some shit. Trying so hard to resist reading the manga.
 
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Jan 21, 2016 9:30 PM
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At this point, I'm pretty sure that the teacher is going to be the kidnapper/murderer.
Guess we'll have to wait.

Another great episode!
 
Jan 21, 2016 9:32 PM

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i don't know how this will go,or how they are planning to adapt so much material (according to manga fans) into a 1-cour season, but so far this is one of the best anime I've seen. Truly digging it.
 
Jan 21, 2016 10:21 PM

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Loving this anime so far.
 
Jan 21, 2016 10:21 PM

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I don't care if he's 29 I ship those two so hard!
I don't know why but I keep getting the feeling that the teacher is going to end up as the killer or something haha
 
Jan 21, 2016 10:26 PM

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Last year A-1 gave us your lie in april, this year they're giving us your lie in march

Lol at this.
Great anime. I hope Satoru saves her and her mom dies or gets Jailed.
Why doesn't Mc/teacher just call the cops though. Smh
 
Jan 21, 2016 10:28 PM

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Kayo's mom is the type of person that I enjoy seeing suffer.....I fucking hate that bitch for what she does and I bet the man joins in too

Seeing everything that this little girl goes through really broke my heart this time and I truly feel that this girl deserves all of the happiness in the world and I commend Satoru for trying to give it to her...If she ends up dying still I will be depressed as fuck

That ending tho.....That has me very concerned now


Me too. I am really enjoying this series so far ... just so good but so sad too.
 
Jan 21, 2016 10:29 PM

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I'm really enjoyed this, so deep yet the MC are still child
 
Jan 21, 2016 10:37 PM

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Child abuse and some view from 1988
Thrilling music
This episode like a movie
 
Jan 21, 2016 10:37 PM

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Anyone else noticed that the teacher told Satoru to have fun celebrating his birthday together with Hinazuki? I don't recall Satoru telling anyone else that he invited her. How does the teacher know? Seems mighty suspicious.

Since the anime will end in one season, I'll wait before I start reading the manga.
 
Jan 21, 2016 10:44 PM

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I so wanted to punch Kayo's mother.

Loving this so far, it keeps me guessing and the interactions between Satoru and Hinazuki were great.
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Jan 21, 2016 10:46 PM

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- Child abuse? Done even more.


I don't know, I feel like anime and Japanese TV shows in general try to avoid the Child Abuse storyline or anything involving bullying in School.

I feel that Japan is a coward on that subject.

Seeing the depiction of abuse in that episode really made me uncomfortable, which is compounded with rage by the fact that the teacher and social services don't or can't do much.

Even though this is anime and it's exaggerated for dramatic effect, but I honestly despises Japanese culture for certain situations like that.
 
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A decent episode. How the music comes in really builds the mood. Did the cut to the water faucets when Kayo called them both "fakes and liars" have to do with how her mother heals her bruises? Didn't piece that together until I rewatched it. Good to know the teacher isn't clueless about the abuse, but he makes no mention of telling other authority figures in the school and his inquires can't be verified by anyone. He's suspect.

I do wish Satoru struggling with being himself and giving his all in fear of upsetting someone or not being liked was established when he was an adult - it made his conflict about winning the race seem far fetched, especially since it purposefully contradicted his earlier words nd caused a (very) temporary rift in his relationship with Kayo. It would make his personal growth more meaningful if it related to how his character flaws affected his life in the present. I wonder if the mother will be this abhorrent figure of terror in such an exaggerated way consistently.
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Jan 21, 2016 10:58 PM

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i just love this anime !
 
Jan 21, 2016 11:00 PM

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So Sensei is evil and Kenya is evil as well?
Another great episode of a great anime so far
Fuck Hinazuki's mother though, she'd get absolutely rekt by me
I don't wanna see kawaii Hinazuki crying in sadness and pain
MC is very good and fitting, Hinazuki and him would be a nice couple
Love how they use the music
9/10 if this goes like this (I think it'll get better and better)
Like the OP and ED isn't bad as well
This anime is special, you'll feel many emotions while watching an epiosde, just great.
5/5, Love Hinazuki.
 
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Eclio413 said:

That's cuz kayo is the first person to be kidnapped. Thus he's gonna try and prevent her kidnapping first, so then the killer will move onto victim 2, then he will stop that, and so on. So satoru is just focusing on one victim at a time.
 
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Wow. WOW.
I watched this episode last night and just WOW. I love it. I have no words.
I REALLY HOPE THAT THE TEACHER IS NOT THE KILLER.

All dem people only hating on her mother, but what if momäs bf is the one abusing her and then the mother wants people to think that they are a normal family, thus the hiding of the bruises?
It is sick anyway.
Dem christmas tree scene ;w;

11/10 Boku Dake ga Inai Machi might aswell be my new Monster, Death Note, and Black Butler(read: ultimate favourite anime ever)
 
Jan 21, 2016 11:24 PM

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kenya is even more suspicious now after that last scene...
anyways, another great episode. i feel so bad for kayo though, and it sucks that no one can help her out of her situation that quickly.
 
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Every episode of this anime is amazing, ugh it's so good
 
Jan 21, 2016 11:31 PM

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It's a shame Satoru has his kid body, because you can tell he would've gone ape shit on that mother right then and there if he had the physical ability to. That scene would've been perfect if it went full plot twist and he stabbed the bitch in the back as she walked away.

That 2 second scene before the ED, I'm 100% convinced the teacher is the killer. Keep these traits in mind:
- He has been called observant and has a sharp eye
- He is intelligent, a critical thinker, which also makes him good at planning
- It's shown he has good people skills and likability and is able to talk his way through all sorts of conversations (not that he's been shown doing it in a negative way, but he is always very sociable no matter the topic).
- On top of that, his likeability and charisma also makes him very persuasive and respected. Students don't even consider talking back to him.

Now, with that in mind, think about this:
- Because he is so well liked, most people would probably take his word on things and leave it at that, especially given the time period.
- He had intimate knowledge on Kayo's abuse and her family situation. Yet he didn't seem to do much about it for how "concerned" he was. He supposedly sent the CCC there multiple times, but Kayo and mom were always gone. Why not send them at a different time? Why not have them walk Kayo home from school when the mom would definitely be there? etc. It's a simple problem with a simple solution.
- Being the teacher, he also had knowledge on the other two girls who were killed.
- That ending scene, he was talking with a kid (who was obviously Satoru's smart friend) and the kid had a creepy grin.

My theory is that the teacher is the killer. He knows about her abuse, and combines that with in-class abuse to make her vulnerable enough to kill. As I said before, he knows about the abuse but hasn't really done much to stop it. He's notified the CCC, but hasn't taken action to make sure they succeed.

Then in class he uses that smart kid to make her a target. He had the smart kid put the money in her bag (because no one would suspect the nice kid), and then in turn it causes the entire class to hate and berate her. Sensei still gets to have the face of a hero when he comes in and diffuses the situation. And he does this repeatedly; sabotages her in class to make her hated, and then nonchalantly breaks up the dispute like a good teacher.

Her abuse at home is escalating. He noted before that her bruises used to be hidden, but now they're pretty damn visible aside from her face. It wouldn't be much longer before Kyo is beaten to death or sexually assaulted by her (dad?). This increasing abuse combined with in class isolation leads her to being the perfect target.

Then he simply had to wait for the perfect opportunity to strike: when she'd be so upset she'd be in the park for a long time, and when nobody else would be in the park, nor would even care about her enough to look for her. Since it happens right before a big snowfall he simply kills (and possibly rapes) her, and leaves her body to be buried in winter.

Since Sensei is such a beloved, intelligent, and charismatic man; who is loved by his students and respected by his co-workers, obviously he would be devastated and grief stricken by the loss of one of his students who he was trying so desperately to save from her bad home life and loneliness. What better time to point out that he heard some of the students, Kayo in particular, were associating with "a creepy guy who talked and acted weird" in the park? Obviously the caring Sensei must be on to something if he's pointing the finger at social outcast Yuuki who plays with kids in the park.

Boom, he gets away with it, and murders those two other girls. Since he's a teacher, it would make sense that Satoru's mom recognized him; but not immediately because he was his grade school teacher. It was so many years ago that he, and the murders, were relevant. He gets spotted, kills the mom, and then tips his hat and lowers his head in front of Satoru because he knows he'd be recognized.
 
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Eclio413 said:

That's cuz kayo is the first person to be kidnapped. Thus he's gonna try and prevent her kidnapping first, so then the killer will move onto victim 2, then he will stop that, and so on. So satoru is just focusing on one victim at a time.

The problem is, I would only believe that had there been any indication that he was dealing with Kayo for that purpose but there really hasn't and the way he treats the other victims Sugita as a main example shows that there is a high chance that he really doesn't care about them. Plus focusing on one victim at a time is still the wrong way to go about it even if you have pre-knowledge of the events. It's almost as if his plan for succeeding is to just be there when the killer shows up for Kayo and then discover who he is through that rather than actively trying to figure out the connection between the victims and work out from there who the killer is. Apparently the writer's poor attempt at shock factor was worth more to him than making his character's actions have some sense and developing the other victims to be more than background characters. Satoru still needs to pull his head out of is ass and actually think about the situation he's in because the way he's heading he's probably going to get even more hurt than when he failed the first time.
 
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Eclio413 said:
ttcchen said:

That's cuz kayo is the first person to be kidnapped. Thus he's gonna try and prevent her kidnapping first, so then the killer will move onto victim 2, then he will stop that, and so on. So satoru is just focusing on one victim at a time.

The problem is, I would only believe that had there been any indication that he was dealing with Kayo for that purpose but there really hasn't and the way he treats the other victims Sugita as a main example shows that there is a high chance that he really doesn't care about them. Plus focusing on one victim at a time is still the wrong way to go about it even if you have pre-knowledge of the events. It's almost as if his plan for succeeding is to just be there when the killer shows up for Kayo and then discover who he is through that rather than actively trying to figure out the connection between the victims and work out from there who the killer is. Apparently the writer's poor attempt at shock factor was worth more to him than making his character's actions have some sense and developing the other victims to be more than background characters. Satoru still needs to pull his head out of is ass and actually think about the situation he's in because the way he's heading he's probably going to get even more hurt than when he failed the first time.

That's part of the struggle though, he isn't just trying to prevent her from being kidnapped, he's making friends with her as well, so I think that would naturally cloud his judgement. Anyway, getting to know her is certainly going to be more helpful than the alternative.
 
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merryfistmas said:
Eclio413 said:

The problem is, I would only believe that had there been any indication that he was dealing with Kayo for that purpose but there really hasn't and the way he treats the other victims Sugita as a main example shows that there is a high chance that he really doesn't care about them. Plus focusing on one victim at a time is still the wrong way to go about it even if you have pre-knowledge of the events. It's almost as if his plan for succeeding is to just be there when the killer shows up for Kayo and then discover who he is through that rather than actively trying to figure out the connection between the victims and work out from there who the killer is. Apparently the writer's poor attempt at shock factor was worth more to him than making his character's actions have some sense and developing the other victims to be more than background characters. Satoru still needs to pull his head out of is ass and actually think about the situation he's in because the way he's heading he's probably going to get even more hurt than when he failed the first time.

That's part of the struggle though, he isn't just trying to prevent her from being kidnapped, he's making friends with her as well, so I think that would naturally cloud his judgement. Anyway, getting to know her is certainly going to be more helpful than the alternative.
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Eclio413 said:

The problem is, I would only believe that had there been any indication that he was dealing with Kayo for that purpose but there really hasn't and the way he treats the other victims Sugita as a main example shows that there is a high chance that he really doesn't care about them. Plus focusing on one victim at a time is still the wrong way to go about it even if you have pre-knowledge of the events. It's almost as if his plan for succeeding is to just be there when the killer shows up for Kayo and then discover who he is through that rather than actively trying to figure out the connection between the victims and work out from there who the killer is. Apparently the writer's poor attempt at shock factor was worth more to him than making his character's actions have some sense and developing the other victims to be more than background characters. Satoru still needs to pull his head out of is ass and actually think about the situation he's in because the way he's heading he's probably going to get even more hurt than when he failed the first time.

That's part of the struggle though, he isn't just trying to prevent her from being kidnapped, he's making friends with her as well, so I think that would naturally cloud his judgement. Anyway, getting to know her is certainly going to be more helpful than the alternative.
I don't believe it's wrong that he is making friends with Kayo as she obviously has a lot to deal with and a friend could greatly help with that. It's just my problem is his treatment of the other victims besides Kayo who are getting little to no development and are obviously still in danger despite his crude logic "if I save the first victim then the others are safe". For all we can assume the killer has already noticed he's moving on Kayo and has already lined up the replacement this is when the time travel starts to get very tedious and plot holes are likely to erupt.
 
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It seems like he saving 3 lives. (1) One falsely accused of murder, (2) The girl he was meant to save, (3) His own mother. To alter the timeline means changing the outcome of his future present.

Dont forget the two other kids
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WTF?? Put that whole thing in a god damn spoiler pleeze!!!!
 
Jan 22, 2016 1:07 AM
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I need to look up who directs this anime. He is very talented.

Takahiro Shikama was the one who directed and storyboarded this episode. He even had a hand in animating the ending scene.
 
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A chapter with many emotions ahead and situations that unfortunately we live in real life. I really hate people like Kazuki's mother ugh!. On the other hand, I loved the detail of Satoru to bring Kazuki to see the Christmas tree, it was perfect.

The end has me a little concerned. I don't trust at all in that teacher.








 
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They're 11 years old right? And they already learn about circle(radius,diameter,circumference etc......)
I learn it when i'm 14.what about other country??
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Tsururin_Tsun said:
They're 11 years old right? And they already learn about circle(radius,diameter,circumference etc......)
I learn it when i'm 14.what about other country??


Think I learned that when I was 12 (I think... it was 5th grade or 6th... can't remember)
 
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Tsururin_Tsun said:
They're 11 years old right? And they already learn about circle(radius,diameter,circumference etc......)
I learn it when i'm 14.what about other country??
Around the same age as them, likely the one grade above.
 
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