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| I almost fell asleep during this episode |
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| Musaigen no Phantom World - Episode 4 Preview Reina Ep :P https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=6h19r9WfRr8 |
| What the hell happened to the pacing this episode? it felt all over the place, and was that black haired girl always this annoying? felt like i watched a completely different show this week |
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| This episode was an okay episode, I did enjoy it but at the moment i'm wondering if this is just how it is going to be all the time random fun slice of life? or will it go more serious along the road? Also felt weird that Koito was introduced in the last episode and then was not in this at all like they could have switch this episode and the last episode and it would have been fine. But I did enjoy seeing Mai and learning a little of her past and seeing Reina get jealous over pretty much a date between Mai and Haruhiko which i can totally ship lol. The action in this was pretty awesome seeing Haruhiko seem like he is going to be a baddass but end up having no stamina was funny along with that move that they saw in the movie was cool. Overall I enjoyed this episode but it wasn't anything special but maybe we will see how much better it gets in the next episodes. Here is my full review on the episode: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=1AHJVDP60o8&feature=youtu.be |
| Reina best girl ♥ |
Cr7_vi_Britannia said: TitanAnteus said: It's not a love triangle but a love line XD, but it's KyoAni, so that feeling of jealousy is probably not romantic but something else. Heck it might not even be targeted at Mai. We still don't know why Reina calls Mai onee-sama. Haruhiko ---> Reina ----> Mai ----- ???? it seems that you did not understand that KyoAni distorts the true sense of the scene compared to LN. In this part of the LN, Reina is jealous of Haruhiko, and Mai begins to show feelings for Haruhiko. See yuribaits of Reina and Kumiko in Hibike all edition of KyoAni, she does it in all its animes. search the interview of one of the directors of Key, that It occurred in 2014, where he explains why Key refused the proposal made by KyoAni for adapting Little Busters! Election was categorically states that Key refused the proposal of KyoAni, because KyoAni wanted to make big changes in Little Busters! and adding extra content (fanservice+yuri). Renowned writers with Jun Maeda and Romeo Tanaka refuses to work and take their works to be adapted by KyoANi Nagomu Torii (writer of Kyōkai no Kanata), makes harsh criticism of Kyoani about what they did with their work.. It seems that people do not have conscience that everything that KyoAni do is edit, rewrite, cut important scenes, add fanservice + yuri or fujo content,in the adaptations that they make. KumaKing said: Nah it'll be a harem later let's be honest. It's based off a LN afterall KyoAni already made major editions relating to LN, as he did in Hibike. By the way, were Clannad and Suzumiya Haruhi no Yuuutsu edited too or this kind of editing started after both? I haven't read those LN's... |
| haha i'm almost think haruhiko will have mai's power forever nice tho ep 4/5 |
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Comic_Sans said: Ditto, I could barely sit through this. I actually haven't watched more than half of it.I almost fell asleep during this episode |
| Thought that this episode was rather decent tbh. We did actually get some development between the characters and we still have that unknown little girl with her teddy bear Albrecht. But yeah, the story is still very simple and kinda lackluster. Although I love the visuals, as I do with all KyoAni shows |
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Cr7_vi_Britannia said: Snaita said: By the way, were Clannad and Suzumiya Haruhi no Yuuutsu edited too or this kind of editing started after both? I haven't read those LN's... Clannad After Story and The Melancholy of Haruhi Suzumiya were the last two animes that do not suffer from this type of editing and also the previous adaptations to them: Full Metal Panic!, Air, Clannad, Kanon, Kanon 2006. Probably KyoAni did not shit in Full Metal Panic!, adaptations and The Melancholy of Haruhi Suzumiya, because the fan base of the related source material for these three is huge, KyoAni did not want to play with fire, they were conscious that if they do their editions of shits and also the use of his famous original content: excessive fanservice + yuribait in one of them, and this would reflect negatively both in sales as in the anime audience. I had forgotten of Nagaru Tanigawa (creator and author of The Melancholy of Haruhi Suzumiya is another who broke with the KyoAni, your series is a spinoff of The Disappearance of Nagato Yuki-chan, was adapted by another studio. Hyouka was the anime that has initiated this type of editing, Hyouka was also the anime that started the famous: ''yuribait'' in adaptations made by KyoAni, after Hyouka all the adaptations made by kyoAni, suffered big editions, scene cut important, changes of meanings and senses the scenes and history in relation to the source material. Especially the addition of the original content of KyoAni (excess of fanservice, yuribait and fujobait). The scenes between Eru and Irisu (Hyouka), was the one that gave beginning to the regrettable and unpleasant: reign of the accretion of ''yuribaits'' in adaptations made by Kyoani. this yuribait shit was not present in the source material ****************************** Here is the list of shits that KyoAni has done in their adaptations after Clannad After Story: -Hyouka - adding yuribait between Eru and Irisu. -Chunibyo - editions, important scenes cuts, alterations in the characters' personality change the characters, adding yuribait between Nibutani and Dekomori. -Kyoukai no Kanata - completely rewritten, seemed an anime totally unique, change in story, in personality of characters, adding scenes fujoshi between Akihito and Hiroomi, stupid glasses fetish. -Amagi - too much fanservice, less development, adding yuribait between two of the elementary girls. -Hibike - increasing the amount of yuri in the story to the point almost everyone who don't know about the books thinks this is a yuri show. -Musaigen no Phantom World - episode 1 and 2 are focused on fanservice instead of getting more into the story, adding yuribait - adding original stuff like episode 3er. Well I really like some of those works with the exception of Hibike(lol I too thought it was a Yuri show), animation alone is awesome on all of them. But it always made me a little curious why those characters would go up like that to their female friends, never tought it was "yuri bait" or Akihito x Hiroomi "fujo bait"(thought this too was part of the story), but dammn it makes sense. Seems like they found a profitable way to commercialize their anime and won't stop. Thank you, nice knowing what to expect from KyoAni. Oh that explains why they planned to adapt one volume on their series that only has two volumes, they will probably drag the story with shit. |
SnaitaJan 23, 2016 4:39 AM
Snaita said: Well I really like some of those works with the exception of Hibike(lol I too thought it was a Yuri show), animation alone is awesome on all of them. But it always made me a little curious why those characters would go up like that to their female friends, never tought it was "yuri bait" or Akihito x Hiroomi "fujo bait"(thought this too was part of the story), but dammn it makes sense. Seems like they found a profitable way to commercialize their anime and won't stop. Thank you, nice knowing what to expect from KyoAni. Oh that explains why they planned to adapt one volume on their series that only has two volumes, they will probably drag the story with shit. While I agree, that Kyoani has been adding "bait" since Hyouka, I don't think it's right to make sweeping generalizations. Amagi Brilliant Park was actually pretty well adapted. The original only "feels" like it has less fanservice since it was in a different medium. The anime didn't pile on heaps of it or anything. Musaigen No Phantom World's original LN had a lot of internal dialogue and was paced like a LN. To adapt it into a 12 episode anime and still retain its original sense of wonder and general fun they made some changes like adding a talking fairy character that takes the brunt of the explanations. They also shifted around story events for reasons I can't tell right now. They do add yuribait and fujobait to almost all their shows though. I mean Free! is one of their most profitable anime after all. Also, it's not like fujoshi and yurilovers hate regular romance so adding that other stuff as flavor seems to be fair to them. |
| Still can't bring myself to like this anime.. |
TitanAnteus said: Snaita said: Well I really like some of those works with the exception of Hibike(lol I too thought it was a Yuri show), animation alone is awesome on all of them. But it always made me a little curious why those characters would go up like that to their female friends, never tought it was "yuri bait" or Akihito x Hiroomi "fujo bait"(thought this too was part of the story), but dammn it makes sense. Seems like they found a profitable way to commercialize their anime and won't stop. Thank you, nice knowing what to expect from KyoAni. Oh that explains why they planned to adapt one volume on their series that only has two volumes, they will probably drag the story with shit. While I agree, that Kyoani has been adding "bait" since Hyouka, I don't think it's right to make sweeping generalizations. Amagi Brilliant Park was actually pretty well adapted. The original only "feels" like it has less fanservice since it was in a different medium. The anime didn't pile on heaps of it or anything. Musaigen No Phantom World's original LN had a lot of internal dialogue and was paced like a LN. To adapt it into a 12 episode anime and still retain its original sense of wonder and general fun they made some changes like adding a talking fairy character that takes the brunt of the explanations. They also shifted around story events for reasons I can't tell right now. They do add yuribait and fujobait to almost all their shows though. I mean Free! is one of their most profitable anime after all. Also, it's not like fujoshi and yurilovers hate regular romance so adding that other stuff as flavor seems to be fair to them. I can see past all that if the plot and story of the source doesn't get change by it. It bothers me that they make all this changes in this animes to "fish in" watchers, but in the end they don't bother to make sequels or adapt something all the way. Then when some people switch between anime and LN and vice-versa they get disappointed. |
Snaita said: TitanAnteus said: While I agree, that Kyoani has been adding "bait" since Hyouka, I don't think it's right to make sweeping generalizations. Amagi Brilliant Park was actually pretty well adapted. The original only "feels" like it has less fanservice since it was in a different medium. The anime didn't pile on heaps of it or anything. Musaigen No Phantom World's original LN had a lot of internal dialogue and was paced like a LN. To adapt it into a 12 episode anime and still retain its original sense of wonder and general fun they made some changes like adding a talking fairy character that takes the brunt of the explanations. They also shifted around story events for reasons I can't tell right now. They do add yuribait and fujobait to almost all their shows though. I mean Free! is one of their most profitable anime after all. Also, it's not like fujoshi and yurilovers hate regular romance so adding that other stuff as flavor seems to be fair to them. I can see past all that if the plot and story of the source doesn't get change by it. It bothers me that they make all this changes in this animes to "fish in" watchers, but in the end they don't bother to make sequels or adapt something all the way. Then when some people switch between anime and LN and vice-versa they get disappointed. They're like the only studios to do season 2s though. |
| good art but poor plot story if i would say... |
| Well Duh... |
| This episode was good. Just like the ones before it. |
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policemanking said: Shit didn't make no sense. Like was it that much of a fucking bother to cut yourself for the action? Cheap shit is cheap.Did Ichijou really just used red paint to summon a demon? This is beyond fucking retarded, I'm still in shock right now holy shit. |
TitanAnteus said: Snaita said: I can see past all that if the plot and story of the source doesn't get change by it. It bothers me that they make all this changes in this animes to "fish in" watchers, but in the end they don't bother to make sequels or adapt something all the way. Then when some people switch between anime and LN and vice-versa they get disappointed. They're like the only studios to do season 2s though. Still, Hyouka and onward I haven't seen a single anime getting a full adaptation from them. |
| This is turning out much better than what the first episode led me to believe. It's fun. |
policemanking said: Let's be honest, it's just a crappy plush toy that will probably be some kind of merchandise when DVD/BD come out. Spit would be too much of a price to pay for summoning something like that...Did Ichijou really just used red paint to summon a demon? This is beyond fucking retarded, I'm still in shock right now holy shit. That mutt could be explained as a poor joke the first time he failed the summon, but if it they turn it into a running gag then... well, fuck them. |
Ii tenki desu ne... |
policemanking said: Did Ichijou really just used red paint to summon a demon? This is beyond fucking retarded, I'm still in shock right now holy shit. You wanted him to use actual blood? That would be retarded, since he can define his own parole. Makes you wonder why that Red head has such a long one though. |
| I still really like the setting of this anime, but the cast and storytelling is so freaking lackluster! The memory stuff was total bull too. I'm out. Dropped. |
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| Action bits were pretty good and I liked the twist the the main chick wasn't as nice a kid as she thought. That was a kinda nice twist in my opinion, too often they make the MCs all saints. Kinda wish they'd done something with her realisation that she was a bit of a dick when she was younger. Everyone just seemed fine with it, even the people she bullied. Felt like it had no pay off. |
| That huge jugs of Mai Always gets me distracted! d'awwwww Reina also wants to be like family with the two MC, and also wants to be always patted (like a dog?) The episode is a bit not ineresting, but the good part is when the memories seeped-in to Haruhiko, he was able to know the sizes of Mai and know the grade when Mai 1st wears a bra...haha hilarious. But also fighting animation is also KyoAni greatness! I'm really excited about the introduction of cuteness loli moe overload of Kurumi (VA Kuno Misaki) 4/5. |
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| I was actually planning to drop this anime after this episode,but it was the best episode so far. I feel a little bit disappointed,because I think they could've done Mai's past a little bit darker and deeper,because it was a good material for that,but they just made it into not funny comedy (at least in my opinion). But I still liked it and the animation in this episode was beautiful so imma continue watching this title :) |
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| Reina with chines dress so lovely |
| I can't take this show seriously. Maybe I'm not supposed to take it seriously at all, but the show definitely tries to. I wish they discussed about how those two girls became phantoms. Perhaps they were phantoms to begin with? What angers me is that Mai never questioned those two, about how they became phantoms to begin with, but again, we don't know if they were phantoms to begin with. tl;dr - I'm not happy with this show, and I feel like I'm wasting my time, but I'll continue because I heard that it gets better, or is supposed to anyways. |
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| Reina is beautiful in a Chinese dress O.O. I laughed each time she said : "mayonnaise-sama". Looking forward to a story with several episodes. |
| Beautiful chinese dress? those are like classy versions of chinese martial arts practice uniforms lol. Mai uses something similar to tai chi. It's definitely neat to see very modern scientific study referenced in anime. Recent achievements in memory and cognition are primitive imaging of mental pictures, as well as deactivating and reactivating memories. |
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Cr7_vi_Britannia said: -Musaigen no Phantom World - episode 1 and 2 are focused on fanservice instead of getting more into the story, adding yuribait - adding original stuff like episode 3er. What story? It's ecchi harem comedy. There is no plot so far. |
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| This show is so dumb but I like it anyway :D |
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purpletoddy said: Having boob jokes doesn't make it ecchi, and having more girls that guys doesn't make it harem.bastek66 said: this show isn't listed as ecchi or haremWhat story? It's ecchi harem comedy. There is no plot so far. |
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| Enjoyable episode. Good action and funny. Nice catch Haruhiko... Lol at when he started fighting using Mai's abilities and then got tied straight away. |
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GenesisAria said: having more girls that guys doesn't make it harem. All three have crush on him in LNs so it is a harem. |
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bastek66 said: GenesisAria said: having more girls that guys doesn't make it harem. All three have crush on him in LNs so it is a harem. So its Mai, Reina. But who's the third? |
Koito of course. Who else do you think?  |
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Me thinks it could be Kurumi or Ruru. |
Magito said: Me thinks it could be Kurumi or Ruru. They are anime original. |
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Oh I see. I kinda understand what that means. |
It means that they didn't exist in the source at all. Those characters weren't written as part of the story in the Light Novel. They only exist in the anime. |
anilandrot said: Tennouji said: You clearly see that she defeated those two TOGETHER WITH Haruhiko. Stop being stupid. He didn't do shit though only that spin to win Oh well I guess this is the kind of anime you shouldn't think too much about He still made it. The spinning technique won't be possible if Haruhiko didn't use that touching-your-own-body technique, in which only Mai knows about it and that proves he still needs the memory thing. Well, I guess it's true on your part that you didn't think too much about it. |
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| Not a bad episode. What's with the stalker child, though? That memory thing was 100% implausible but it's fantasy so I can't condemn it for that. Also, harem incoming *sighs* |
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| Ok, so I decided to try to post my reaction so far and keep doing it till the end of the series hopefully. So so far the show was pretty disappointing, I know its only ep 3 but lets say that in comparison to other Kyoani show, this is by far the worse. Lets start with this episode: The visuals in this episode were not bad, so far the visuals in the series were pretty great actually but that is to be expected from a Kyoani show. I dont really understand the purpose of this episode at all and I hate a lot of things about it. First of all, who wanna bet with me that we will never see that "memory-altering thingy" through out the whole series again because the episode was a filler and because the concept it-self is ridiculously stupid and point less: So you found out that you can alter people's memories through bumping your head into one another, that can open multiple ways to change the world with people transferring information to one another and a lot of other things that can be abused in a bad and good way and I will stop talking because it wont go nowhere anyway... Secondly, the story in the episode was strange and stupid: So you want me to believe that those two phantom girls were training for 10+ years to defeat Mai and lost because Haruhiko suddenly joined her??? If I were training 2/3 of my life to defeat some guy focusing only on that notion than I would probably wont lose. I know that Mai has martial art training her self but she has to be weaker than both of them no matter what. Also, this whole:"I forgot I was being violent and hyper active" bullshit is also stupid. If I would remember my self as a quiet kid in the past than maybe I would have more than 1 memory to back me up... People dont become what they are because of memories but because of years of development, especially in your early days. The series it self is pretty disappointing in its structure so far. The reason why I hate this show the most so far out of all the Kyoani shows that I watched is because it has by far the worse base setting to it. I mean, lets just compare few other shows to see where im pointing at -- Chuuni - had the concept of developing Rika's and Yuuta's relationship and dealing with her chuunibiyou problems, and you knew it from the second episode. Clannad- had the concept of developing Tomoya's and Nagisa's relationship while having interaction with other secondary characters ( but it was mainly focused on them). Kyoukai no Kanata(probably the most similar show to Musaigen no Phantom) -- had the concept of dealing with creatures to make profit while simultaneously developing Mirai's and Akihito's relationship and you knew that from episode 2. We're here on ep 3 in Musaigen and I have still many questions unanswered with no idea how many things work. Why are they fighting? Why does a school allow such a thing? How does the powers work? What is the goal of the series? How does Phantom's work? many many other questions that come from lack of explanation and pacing. I also really hate the new "boob service"... If you ask me, Kyoani had fan service in their shows but never to this extend with so much focus. Overall I quess I'm pretty disappointed so far and I really hope that it will become better in the future. |
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