Fairy Tail Chapter 468 Discussion

Fai said:


Brandish took a bath, got knocked out, strangled, turned into Lucy's pet doggy.
Ajeel got teamrocketed by "Because She's Erza"
Wahl's main ability got rekt by fucking Ichiya....
Another spriggan is too busy cutting clothes off people instead of doing anything that actually matters.

Now let me remind you that each of those people are supposed to rival ten wizard saints in power....

Yet, I am sorry but so far they feel more like "filler enemy guild of the week" moments in the anime adaptation than a genuine threat. Especially after how efficient and ruthless Tartaros was. By this far into Tartaros, we already had people like Jackal blowing up the council and destroying things, etc, laxus down, Mira and Erza kidnapped, Erza tortured, etc.

Magnolia's stills standing, nothing on note has happened, yet brandish already got humiliated and turned into a joke and Lucy already lost her entire plot(should have guessed that when Lucy's "major fight" ended up being a bath and then knocking brandish out with fucking cana), not to mention her character development("let's free the person who can destroy islands and hates my guts because we took a bath!!~ Hi Aquarius!")

Dare I say, this feels no different from Avatar "arc"

Darklight0303 said:


Wahl's main ability? That was the puppet's main ability. Look at the freakin cannon he shot at Fairy Tail. You do not count a remote controled puppet gettign destroyed as defeating Wahl when everything he's done since has done WAY MORE DAMAGE

Fai said:


You mean the shot that got trolled by FT fodder members? That's even worse lol.

Darklight0303 said:

Wahl can always just make the cannon again and fire another shot and then the guild would be vaporized. But he's busy fighting in Hargeon right now.

Fai said:


that kind of describes the problem with this arc.

The so called "strongest wizards of the world" COULD be causing actual damage and showing why this is a war, but majority of them just end up fucking around or even worse, barking like dogs(yes this whole trainwreck with brandish makes it incredibly hard to take this arc seriously)

It would be "meh" if we did not have Tartaros arc where a far less powerful force actually managed to make a lot more impact than a whole continent so far.

Darklight0303 said:

Tartaros didn't nuke Bosco off the face of the map.

Dimaria isn't messing up and Wahl has yet to be genuinely threatened by anyone. Then there's the guy Yukino met with who has been killing her guildies left and right apparently. You are jumping to conclusions before this arc has even started in earnest.

Brandish became an uncertainty the moment she started going wobbly lipped over a destroyed stand. Doesn't matter how cool she acted after that, it was her true character at the core.

Darklight0303 said:


Tartaros didn't nuke Bosco off the face of the map.

Dimaria isn't messing up and Wahl has yet to be genuinely threatened by anyone. Then there's the guy Yukino met with who has been killing her guildies left and right apparently. You are jumping to conclusions before this arc has even started in earnest.

Brandish became an uncertainty the moment she started going wobbly lipped over a destroyed stand. Doesn't matter how cool she acted after that, it was her true character at the core.

AllenNoah said:

They did nuke Fairy Tail/Magnolia itself however, which is more important than a city that we've never seen and was only mentioned once. And the only reason that didn't work is because Cana met Sho offpanel and he said "Wanna see a magic trick?"

Kanic said:
Sooo Arakitashia is USA?
(XD) Subtle, very subtle.

Darklight0303 said:


Bosco is not a city. It's an entire kingdom

Kanic said:
Sooo Arakitashia is USA?
(XD) Subtle, very subtle.

AllenNoah said:

Interesting. Where's that from?
Also, my point still stands that it's a place we've never seen and know nothing about besides they practice human trafficking (or a really aggressive modelling industry) over there. Without knowledge of its military or mage calibur I can't see destroying Bosco as an impressive feat.. It was shocking, for sure, but it didn't make me think "Albareth ain't nuthin' to fuck with," know what I mean?


I figured it was supposed to be the Middle East at first.

Darklight0303 said:

That is all baseless nitpicking on your part at this point.

Darklight0303 said:


Hahahahahahah fuck no

Lucasloco91 said:
I really don't give a shit about lucy and her mother, just give Gray more screen time.

Nuvi said:
I'm dropping my score for FT, these last 2 chapters were garbage. Thank god we're finally done with Brandish for now.

And you think Gray is better? Honestly his backstory isn't even good when compared to Mavis' backstory.

Fai said:

Not really. Its just a pointless hype.

There's a difference between changing or destroying something that matters to narrative and a hype talk. Inventing a country and destroying it is a hype talk.
We never saw that place, that place never mattered, for all intents and purposes it does not exist within the narrative - just in the lore.
Bosco started and stopped existing the moment it was destroyed.

Its no different than the claim that Nirvana was more dangerous than Dragon/Human war or "army of dragons ending an alternate future". In those cases hype was bigger than an impact, but impact WAS there.

Tartaros was something on other hand that had both hype and impact - lore-wise they were hyped up books of zeref, while narrative-wise they destroyed council(something that was there since the start of the manga), led to the breaking of aquarius key, inflicted mental damage to Erza by bringing up her memories of her torture, caused Gray's obsession with END, not to mention indirectly leading to deaths of all the dragon slayer parents and destruction of FT's guild building.

In this case, hype was built up and the spriggans have yet to do anything that matters. Everything they did was just random comedic bs(ex: Brandish) or got Erza'd or got dealt with by fodder. We get it, they each of them can match 10 saints, they destroyed a country, they have huge army, blah blah. Lore checks out. Narrative wise? One took a bath, one flew to the moon, one started stripping people. Wow, such stakes...

They should have at least destroyed Magnolia or killed off Blue Pegasus or defeated Erza(yea right, like that would happen) or something. Something that could theoretically stick and raise the stakes to the war. None of that happened. We had two of them be dealt in completely bullshit fashion and third is literally cutting people's clothes off(instead of you know murdering Kagura or killing off those around Kagura and raising the stakes? It IS war)


This is it - the confrontation between two continents, the hyped up dragon king festival, the war with wizards that are above ten wizard saints in power, the war against country that everyone in the continent feared(even tho it was never mentioned before this arc but hey...)...and yet it feels more like anime original filler arc than a thrilling confrontation that will change the face of the world... Between avatar's fodder marching upon that town and this? I frankly see no real difference.

Kanic said:

I will aggree with Darklight that this war hasn't begun in earnest. And quite frankly Azeel was stomping Erza if it wasn't for Bisca/Jupiter. His sand world wichi engulfed the whole city was , in part, showing and not telling. I mean we don't even have the full list of the spriggans yet. I do aggree that Brandish and her girlfriend though were handled pretty miserably buuut.. imagine the knight-chick murdering Brandish for turning to FT. Maybe not that much of an impact but I'm half-expecting it.

Kanic said:
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Completely aggree up to this point but....


I will aggree with Darklight that this war hasn't begun in earnest. And quite frankly Azeel was stomping Erza if it wasn't for Bisca/Jupiter. His sand world wichi engulfed the whole city was , in part, showing and not telling. I mean we don't even have the full list of the spriggans yet. I do aggree that Brandish and her girlfriend though were handled pretty miserably buuut.. imagine the knight-chick murdering Brandish for turning to FT. Maybe not that much of an impact but I'm half-expecting it.

Fai said:


And I am just comparing what we have now. Tartaros arc "started" with them blowing up the council and sending half the FT to the hospital even before the actual arc got going. Before first Demon Gate fell, they already did a lot that makes them look dangerous and ups the stakes.
With Spriggan we already have "war going on" through whole place, we already have two out of three defeated(and one in completely humiliating character destroying fashion) and yet we have nothing that would make them a threat.

Am I hoping I am wrong and they DO end up doing a come back or something(ex: would it not be cool is Brandish did 180 and started blaming dragonslayers for deaths of both layla and her mother?)? Sure I am.

But with Avatar "arc", gray whitewashing, Aquarius coming back and Lucy's development and sacrifice being undone, and Lucy's plot being cut short for sake of Natsu and Gray's(with her mother literally ending up a plot device) and Brandish being turned to a fucking doggy and Ajeel getting teamrocketed and Any sort of damage to Magnolia being null and void, let's just say my hopes are lowering with every chapter.