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Lol a shellphone.

I'm not sure about Alibaba becoming prime minister. I mean, he can handle the responsibility? Should be interesting to see.
 
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That was unexpectedly quick and simple, lol.

The faces, once again, were simply hilarious. Alibaba's grins all the way through. xD

After all the tension that built up after and during the talk with Sinbad in the previous chapters, I'm surprised this went so smoothly. That calmed me alot.

*wipes sweat off brow*
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Man, what a funny chapter. Alibaba has truly grown up.

Wonder how he is going to rebuild the Kou empire.
 
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lol Ka Kobun being pissed he has been lowered to an assistant (going by current translation on tumblr). Glad he is finally getting more panel time I love that son of a bitch one of my fav minor characters.

That phone call though and Sinbad's expressions what a wild ride that was from start to finish for him. xD
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OK...I am wondering where you guys read the translated version...but still Sinbad and those Others faces... Prime Minister Alibaba of Kou? Nice sound it's own way.

Wonder how he will save this Empire.

*EDIT*

Ah. so Alibaba is striking the One thing that Sinbad said to him years earlier..."World where everybody can live equally with Smile in their Face" yep..not this world.

Sound like you want make look like Villain? Erm,..You did this on Purpose, You ARE Villain in this thing. otherwise you are kind of cool, but still, did it on purpose, yes, that is manipulative Villain-ism.

HAHAHA!! ALIBABA!!! YOU ARE BRILLIANT!!! AS IF I WERE YOUR SON!!! XDXDXD



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I actually laughed three times from this chapter. That's incredibly impressive. Most funny things get no more than an internal "heh that was funny'. Alibaba, gotta say I like your changes.

Though I am wondering what's going on with the very noticeable dip in art quality as of late. Drawings look rougher (not in the raw quality but the drawings themselves), proportions are weirder and things are more crammed on the page and hard to follow. Hope the mangaka is alright :|
 
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First time I've liked Alibaba. Still not a fan though.
 
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Lmao, way to go, Alibaba! XD Was so easygoing all the way why still being able to control the conversation in the way he wanted.

Prime Minister Alibaba to rebuild Kou (never thought that'd even be remotely possible a year ago)!
 
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This was just hilarious. I get the feeling Magi is gettinng its magic/charm back, well at least for me. It was around Aladdin's history lesson which took for ever that I started loosing intrest. But this right now puts me back at the beginning where Alibaba was still working with the wine merchant. Oh yeah, glad that the merchant was more useful than just a plot device hehe.
 
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I found Alibaba's casual approach hilarious!

Looking forward to more business and economics stuff.
 
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This is why Alibaba is the besr! Really great and fun chapter.
 
Jan 15, 2016 5:15 AM

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Alibaba is salaryman now!
 
Jan 15, 2016 5:28 AM

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Alibaba pretty much wrecked Sinbad.
 
Jan 15, 2016 7:41 AM

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Respect to Budel and respect to Alibaba understanding the situation and being able to preach to Sin like that. The way he also used the debt to his Father as a bargaining ship was awesome.
Loving Alibaba a lot right now

Sin's wtf face after the phone call was hilarious XD

Poor Kakobun getting demoted like that lol

I wonder how Alibaba's gonna do this and how much we'll get to see of this year of work he puts in?
 
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Well damn, he put Sinbad on a grill just like that, what a cocky kid.
 
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Loving this arc a lot. There's been almost no action and yet I feel like this is where the true strength of Magi lies as while the story's progressing, it's been hilarious as well. Only thing that's missing for a complete return to the origin is exploring a dungeon again and I feel like even that may happen after Kou's troubles have been solved.
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Really likable chapter. Now we just needs some Alibaba X kougyoku and it will be perfect. :)
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Alibaba pretty much wrecked Sinbad.

I have the same thing in mind throughout the whole chapter. #ggsinbadgotrekt ( ͡° ͜ʖ ͡°)
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Not really too sure how Alibaba will save the Kou Empire but I really enjoyed this chapter, and Alibaba has also been pretty great these last few chapters.

Comedy though has surprisingly been pretty well.
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I don't see how Sinbad got wrecked exactly, it's not like he was trying to destroy Kou and even said he had a plan to make them not go completely terrible. Besides, it's not Sinbad's fault Kou leadership can't do anything aside from killing people via war and enslaving people.

All that happened was Sinbad's generosity and a debt being manipulated making Sinbad be in the bad position of giving Kou more leniency than he can give to other places.
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I don't see how Sinbad got wrecked exactly, it's not like he was trying to destroy Kou and even said he had a plan to make them not go completely terrible. Besides, it's not Sinbad's fault Kou leadership can't do anything aside from killing people via war and enslaving people.

All that happened was Sinbad's generosity and a debt being manipulated making Sinbad be in the bad position of giving Kou more leniency than he can give to other places.


Generosity. Hahaha bullshit. If he was generous he would have done all this WITHOUT Alibaba's prompting
 
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Epicenter said:
I don't see how Sinbad got wrecked exactly, it's not like he was trying to destroy Kou and even said he had a plan to make them not go completely terrible. Besides, it's not Sinbad's fault Kou leadership can't do anything aside from killing people via war and enslaving people.

All that happened was Sinbad's generosity and a debt being manipulated making Sinbad be in the bad position of giving Kou more leniency than he can give to other places.


Generosity. Hahaha bullshit. If he was generous he would have done all this WITHOUT Alibaba's prompting


IDK what you mean, before and within the call Sinbad stated he was going to do something to help them out with their problem of bankruptcy. Then even Alibaba said he doesn't want Sinbad to do everything for them, and Kou needs to rely on its strength. I don't see how Sinbad could of done anything if not helping them makes it somehow his fault and if he helps them it counts as them not being able to rely on themselves. It's not Sinbad's fault Kou was some crazed place where slavery and war was how things were run, and has hereditary rulers rather than those most skilled for the job being in charge.
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Generosity. Hahaha bullshit. If he was generous he would have done all this WITHOUT Alibaba's prompting


IDK what you mean, before and within the call Sinbad stated he was going to do something to help them out with their problem of bankruptcy. Then even Alibaba said he doesn't want Sinbad to do everything for them, and Kou needs to rely on its strength. I don't see how Sinbad could of done anything if not helping them makes it somehow his fault and if he helps them it counts as them not being able to rely on themselves. It's not Sinbad's fault Kou was some crazed place where slavery and war was how things were run, and has hereditary rulers rather than those most skilled for the job being in charge.


No he just said to let him handle affairs with Kou. He was still going to dissolve them. You're just blindly defending him and ignoring the facts. He had years in which he could have tried to help Kou integrate instead he just sat on his ass as Kou bled people and capital.
 
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IDK what you mean, before and within the call Sinbad stated he was going to do something to help them out with their problem of bankruptcy. Then even Alibaba said he doesn't want Sinbad to do everything for them, and Kou needs to rely on its strength. I don't see how Sinbad could of done anything if not helping them makes it somehow his fault and if he helps them it counts as them not being able to rely on themselves. It's not Sinbad's fault Kou was some crazed place where slavery and war was how things were run, and has hereditary rulers rather than those most skilled for the job being in charge.


No he just said to let him handle affairs with Kou. He was still going to dissolve them. You're just blindly defending him and ignoring the facts. He had years in which he could have tried to help Kou integrate instead he just sat on his ass as Kou bled people and capital.


We don't know what he was going to do, not that I think dissolving Kou would be that terrible in the first place since they deserve to be dissolved. You say he should of helped them before, but Alibaba complained about how Sinbad shouldn't make them relay on him, which would of happened if he helped them. If anything, one could argue that Sinbad hasn't been as cruel as needed, maybe he should of dissolved Kou years ago, or set up someone actually effective as leader and forget this whole bloodline ruling nonsense, then again I'm sure those of Kou would be all upset about that too. Basically Kou was going to have hard times without war and slavery no matter what Sinbad did, unless he allowed for wars and slavery to continue just to make a backwards place like Kou happy.
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I can't even start expressing how lovable Alibaba is <3 Whatever else happens in the story, I just had to share my excitement and love at how cute he is <3

I do think Sinbad could have helped them a lot more. He was acting like a bully "I like this thing only and whoever doesn't have one is done for" kind of thing and although that is what a king would do, he was doing all this for peace and peace is not found in lending money in a country you know won't be able to stand on their own feet most probably and just watch the people waste themselves. If he tried to help them flourish and adjust to the new world, it would not be called special treatment, but equal treatment. With uneven backgrounds, equality is not gained by just having the same opportunities as others.

Now if he did that on purpose or just thought things would go better, we'll see but Sinbad was never one to leave things on chance.
 
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This was an entertaining read and I love it because things are going better for my favorite characters. However, that conversation was totally illogical. That was nothing but appeal to pity and emotions. I wonder the same thing as Sinbad did: Why the heck did he give consent?

It's actually strikingly similar to Alibaba's request to Kougyoku during the Balbadd arc where he asked if Kou could just forget about Balbadd's debts. Both Kou back then and Sinbad now have manipulated things to make the situation favorable to themselves. The difference now is instead of Sinbad helping a country in debt, he is now the one giving the burden of debt.

Yes, Sinbad manipulated things and is still manipulating things. He was the one who used the civil war in Kou in order to take control of it. But it's not that I don't like his methods. Sure I felt really annoyed at Sinbad in that civil war since he sided with Hakuryu who was then filled with selfishness and hatred. But I still respect Sinbad because I think that all he did are necessary for the greater good of the world. (At least, I hope his intentions are for the greater good. He is presumably King David, right?)
 
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I'm glad that punk bitch Ka Kobun got demoted.

Really proud of Alibaba right, he really has come a long way.
 
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Old man wisdom comes to the rescue!
 
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Alibaba has got some Spice and Wolf level economic skillz.
And lol, Koubun got demoted. I love how nobody likes that dude.
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The comedy was gold in this chapter, and I LOVE shinobu's chibi style art.. it's so hilarious xD

Man, it just hit me that we are probably gonna have to wait for a season 4 to see this animated when season 3 hasn't even been announced..


 
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Alibaba has become so good at talking.
 
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Damn the comedy in this chapter was just great XD
 
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IDK what you mean, before and within the call Sinbad stated he was going to do something to help them out with their problem of bankruptcy. Then even Alibaba said he doesn't want Sinbad to do everything for them, and Kou needs to rely on its strength. I don't see how Sinbad could of done anything if not helping them makes it somehow his fault and if he helps them it counts as them not being able to rely on themselves. It's not Sinbad's fault Kou was some crazed place where slavery and war was how things were run, and has hereditary rulers rather than those most skilled for the job being in charge.


No he just said to let him handle affairs with Kou. He was still going to dissolve them. You're just blindly defending him and ignoring the facts. He had years in which he could have tried to help Kou integrate instead he just sat on his ass as Kou bled people and capital.



Well, like Maffy said, Sin isn't really the type to lean on chance. He follows a certain path that he knows is gonna work.

I mean, it's not all that strange that the Kou Empire, which he had a grudge on for years, is toppling. And it's not like he was just planning on doing nothing - he was going to eventually annex them into the alliance and use Kou's eventual connections with the alliance to help them.

About accepting Alibaba's request so easily:
It's pretty much what happened when he was younger; he'd get his way using a cute-ass method and the adults wouldn't say a thing because they have a soft spot for him.

If we add the fact that Alibaba resembles young Sin, Sin's debt to Kougyouku, his debt to Rashid and his soft spot for Alibaba, accepting the request isn't so far fetched.

Also, if Kou manages to stand on it's own feet again, it means less work for him, so win-win!
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kou could just start a security company selling soldiers to guard stuff. Since there so many pirates.
 
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No he just said to let him handle affairs with Kou. He was still going to dissolve them. You're just blindly defending him and ignoring the facts. He had years in which he could have tried to help Kou integrate instead he just sat on his ass as Kou bled people and capital.



Well, like Maffy said, Sin isn't really the type to lean on chance. He follows a certain path that he knows is gonna work.

I mean, it's not all that strange that the Kou Empire, which he had a grudge on for years, is toppling. And it's not like he was just planning on doing nothing - he was going to eventually annex them into the alliance and use Kou's eventual connections with the alliance to help them.

About accepting Alibaba's request so easily:
It's pretty much what happened when he was younger; he'd get his way using a cute-ass method and the adults wouldn't say a thing because they have a soft spot for him.

If we add the fact that Alibaba resembles young Sin, Sin's debt to Kougyouku, his debt to Rashid and his soft spot for Alibaba, accepting the request isn't so far fetched.

Also, if Kou manages to stand on it's own feet again, it means less work for him, so win-win!


Basically Sins way is to let the country collapse and simply annex them into his* alliance no matter what words we use .. its HIS alliance .. and I have trouble trusting someone who enjoys Arbas counsel - the real Wrecking will be when Sin is brought down likely by Alibaba and some weird mix of Magis ;p
 
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Damn Sinbad sure got wrecked. Alibaba's gotten pretty awesome
 
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Basically Sins way is to let the country collapse and simply annex them into his* alliance no matter what words we use .. its HIS alliance .. and I have trouble trusting someone who enjoys Arbas counsel - the real Wrecking will be when Sin is brought down likely by Alibaba and some weird mix of Magis ;p


You have a weird view of Sin. He does not enjoy Arba's counsel. He's using her because he has to. Didn't you see the absolute disgust on his face when he was talking to her? This is the leader or Al Thamen - the person he hates the most.

Also, it's just a theory. We don't knows whether or not he's letting Kou collapse because of his grudge, or because of politics.
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kou could just start a security company selling soldiers to guard stuff. Since there so many pirates.


I think that's a pretty interesting idea. But I wouldn't know what the advantage would be in working for someone in another country and remitting payments to your motherland OVER just migrating to another country and be an individual bodyguard there.

Plus, who would trust former pirates? I certainly wouldn't

Besides, there might already be a surplus of bodyguards.
 
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I like how Alibaba Grew up so drastically.

 
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Holy...
Alibaba...

He's one of my fav char in this manga, but this...
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interesting chapter. i want to see how alibaba change kou empire!
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