| Literally the worst genres. Un-fucking-readable. |
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| I haven't seen a lot of yaoi anime so I think it'd be kewl. I have only seen two so it'd be nice to get variety. |
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Holybaptiser said: Literally the worst genres. Un-fucking-readable. I'm pretty sure not all BL series are hardcore porn. |
| If these shows would use its potential a gay relationship offers instead of being fanservice I would love this and watch every single show of it |
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| Honestly only people who would read or watch yaoi is females. Maybe gay men too, but most yaoi nowadays is piles of fluff with no plot. Or just flat-out smut/fanservice. I'm fujoshi trash so I watched all those you listed above, but to this day have not read a single yaoi manga with an actual solid plot. Save for maybe one or two actually exploring emotional turmoil and realistic porytayal of gay relationships, would be more appreciated actually. It's just for the art and the boy on boy at this point. When we get, say 1 or 2 more yaoi anime, we can start saying for a fact that they are trying to reach female audiences. |
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hopeless408 said: Honestly only people who would read or watch yaoi is females. Maybe gay men too, but most yaoi nowadays is piles of fluff with no plot. Or just flat-out smut. I'm fujoshi trash but honestly to this day have not read a single yaoi manga with an actual solid plot. Save for maybe one or two actually exploring emotional turmoil and realistic porytayal of gay relationships, would be more appreciated actually. It's just for the art and the boy on boy at this point. When we get, say 1 or 2 more yaoi anime, we can start saying for a fact that they are trying to reach female audiences. How dare they try to reach a female audience! Damn them! Lol nah but seriously, nothing wrong with having Yuri or yaoi animes. Both can provide too much fanservice, but that's why you avoid certain ones if you don't want to see all of that. |
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| Well bless the statement since Shojo is becoming more dull nowadays , i can't watch it sometimes , not even read it. Yaoi is not always sexual , and im pretty sure they animate the popular ones that don't rely on the sexual tone , for the obvious. Ever since JR became a hit , it kinda opened the doors for many senseis and their works to be taken seriously. As long as the story catches you , then why not watch it. I mean anime aside , i don't exactly watch Game Of Thrones for the tits or endless nude people , so get down on it. |
KonaKoffee4 said: hopeless408 said: Honestly only people who would read or watch yaoi is females. Maybe gay men too, but most yaoi nowadays is piles of fluff with no plot. Or just flat-out smut. I'm fujoshi trash but honestly to this day have not read a single yaoi manga with an actual solid plot. Save for maybe one or two actually exploring emotional turmoil and realistic porytayal of gay relationships, would be more appreciated actually. It's just for the art and the boy on boy at this point. When we get, say 1 or 2 more yaoi anime, we can start saying for a fact that they are trying to reach female audiences. How dare they try to reach a female audience! Damn them! Lol nah but seriously, nothing wrong with having Yuri or yaoi animes. Both can provide too much fanservice, but that's why you avoid certain ones if you don't want to see all of that. Lol I never said there was anything wrong with it, it's certainly working to be honest and as I stated I'm basically just fujoshi trash at this point. I'd like to see an anime adaptation for a meaningful yaoi one day but problem is most yaoi is very short (1 volume max) and the only ones with animes so far are the ones listed in OT because they all have at least 40 chapters. |
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hopeless408 said: KonaKoffee4 said: How dare they try to reach a female audience! Damn them! Lol nah but seriously, nothing wrong with having Yuri or yaoi animes. Both can provide too much fanservice, but that's why you avoid certain ones if you don't want to see all of that. Lol I never said there was anything wrong with it, it's certainly working to be honest and as I stated I'm basically just fujoshi trash at this point. I'd like to see an anime adaptation for a meaningful yaoi one day but problem is most yaoi is very short (1 volume max) and the only ones with animes so far are the ones listed in OT because they all have at least 40 chapters. Yes I agree that I'd like to see more serious yaoi animes done. I have read really good yaoi manga, but not much of the anime versions. Maybe I'm not looking hard enough anyways lol Idk. I feel the same about Yuri as well. I have read better Yuri manga than I have seen Yuri animes. |
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KonaKoffee4 said: hopeless408 said: Lol I never said there was anything wrong with it, it's certainly working to be honest and as I stated I'm basically just fujoshi trash at this point. I'd like to see an anime adaptation for a meaningful yaoi one day but problem is most yaoi is very short (1 volume max) and the only ones with animes so far are the ones listed in OT because they all have at least 40 chapters. Yes I agree that I'd like to see more serious yaoi animes done. I have read really good yaoi manga, but not much of the anime versions. Maybe I'm not looking hard enough anyways lol Idk. I feel the same about Yuri as well. I have read better Yuri manga than I have seen Yuri animes. Yeah Yaoi and Yuri are in the same boat in that aspect. I only read like 1 Yuri manga (very long and weird af, must have been a bad choice) so I can't input my opinion on the quality of it . Sounds like most people don't take them seriously anymore. Don't know why someone can't create something like No.6 where it has a story and all but the main/one of the romantic aspect just happens to be a yaoi or yuri couple? That would be good since it can appeal to a wider audience still and attract the people who like yaoi/yuri if that is what they want to do. |
hopeless408Jan 2, 2016 12:03 AM
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hopeless408 said: KonaKoffee4 said: Yes I agree that I'd like to see more serious yaoi animes done. I have read really good yaoi manga, but not much of the anime versions. Maybe I'm not looking hard enough anyways lol Idk. I feel the same about Yuri as well. I have read better Yuri manga than I have seen Yuri animes. Yeah Yaoi and Yuri are in the same boat in that aspect. I only read like 1 Yuri manga (very long and weird af, must have been a bad choice) so I can't input my opinion on the quality of it . Sounds like most people don't take them seriously anymore. Don't know why someone can't create something like No.6 where it has a story and all but the main/one of the romantic aspect just happens to be a yaoi or yuri couple? That would be good since in can appeal to wide audience still and attract the people who like yaoi/yuri if that is what they want to do. Yeah , i feel you there. N 6 was like something else. It was so good to watch , but nowadays i kinda forgot it existed XDD i mean the only think i remember clearly is how much people hated that side girl named Safu (i think?) XD But i really feel that audience was wider for that one , in a way , males were interested too since the story was the center. I still wish there was more Shion and Nezumi Moments but oh well ... |
| It's better than those short OVAs PrimeTime kept releasing before. At least it actually evolved into something longer but being a TV series means sex scenes are either shortened or censored as hell. Most of them are trash story-wise and their characters often fall flat. You can literally count the number of good yaois out there excluding Shounen-Ai like No. 6. I don't even get why Junjou Romantica and Sekaiichi Hatsukoi are so popular. It's shit. At least the upcoming Super Lovers will be good if DEEN doesn't fvck it up which I'm confident they won't. |
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| Kinda hope they announce something this year. The only thing that any shounen ai or Yaoi needs is a likeable plot for a massive audience to be popular and be noticed . Now , it doesn't really help that many popular ones are very short , others only get OVAS etc. I kinda see why Nakamura's works are the ones that get animated the most , like the stories don't get on someones nerves , it's entertaining and heart warming at the end. The art is appealing and there are tons of intimate moments that aren't neccesarily sexual. I miss the days of Loveless and Sukyshio. At this point , as long as i get Nakamura's works , i'll remain happy considering that actually there isn't anything that good to be animated. Love Stage was , and it apparently flooped , so my expectations are down hill. |
Sw_Star24Jan 1, 2016 11:05 PM
| No. Anime is targeted mostly towards males because males are their best and most loyal fanbase/customers. The customer is always right. And the customer wants more schoolgirls and oppai. Sorry OP, but on capitalism...the majority always win. |
| Yaoi is a Japanese word, which is actually something of an acronym. It comes from "YAma nashi, Ochi nashi, Imi nashi", which means "no climax, no point no meaning ". i can't take it seriously when watching one |
bored_boredJan 2, 2016 2:22 AM
JustALEX said: Anime is targeted mostly towards males because males are their best and most loyal fanbase/customers. k3k seriously lequack said: I think it would be a good thing. I have no interest in yaoi nor will I watch a yaoi anime in the future but if that is what female audiences want then they should make more of it. why aren't there more people like that bless you |
| Sure, why not? If straight guys can have ecchi, straight girls can have yaoi. Personally, I'd like to see more yaoi that isn't strictly fapservice for girls, and actually has character development. |
JustALEX said: No. Anime is targeted mostly towards males because males are their best and most loyal fanbase/customers. The customer is always right. And the customer wants more schoolgirls and oppai. Sorry OP, but on capitalism...the majority always win. Funny. The dude that was hell bent on protecting lolicons doesn't want to see any gay animes made? What happened to not judging huh? There's also a high demand for yaoi just letting you know. You want your lolis, but nobody can have there yaoi? |
KonaKoffeeJan 2, 2016 4:16 AM
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KonaKoffee4 said: JustALEX said: <br />No.<br /> <br /> Anime is targeted mostly towards males because males are their best and most loyal fanbase/customers.<br /> <br /> The customer is always right.<br /> <br /> And the customer wants more schoolgirls and oppai.<br /> <br /> Sorry OP, but on capitalism...the majority always win. <br /> Funny. The dude that was hell bent on protecting lolicons doesn't want to see any gay animes? <br /> What happened to not judging huh? <br /> <br /> There's also a high demand for yaoi just letting you know. I'm hell bent on protecting freedom of expression and I'm not some deluded person who thinks censorship is the proper way to deal with things I don't like nor do I allow my feelings to blur the lines between real and fiction. If there really was enough demand for yaoi anime they would make it. Or do you not understand how capitalism works? |
JustALEX said: KonaKoffee4 said: <br /> <br /> Funny. The dude that was hell bent on protecting lolicons doesn't want to see any gay animes? <br /> What happened to not judging huh? <br /> <br /> There's also a high demand for yaoi just letting you know. I'm hell bent on protecting freedom of expression and I'm not some deluded person who thinks censorship is the proper way to deal with things I don't like nor do I allow my feelings to blur the lines between real and fiction. If there really was enough demand for yaoi anime they would make it. Or do you not understand how capitalism works? There is yaoi being made and there is a very very high demand for it. If you want your lolis then people have a right to have there yaoi. If anime is a freedom of expression then why is the argument capitalism and not the person having the right to create content? You want your lolis then fine, but don't say people can't have their yaoi because of "capitalism". Don't talk about freedom but then claim animes you don't agree with can't be made. |
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| Why would it be a problem? No is being forced to watch it and some of the mangas are really good. I don't know what it is about reading about two men struggling with themselves on a personal level and falling in love, but I find it pulls on my cold brittle heartstrings just a little. Now do I want to watch more stuff like Junjou Romantica? God no, can't even read the manga. There are a lot better stuff out there that could be made into an anime. There should be more in my opinion. |
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| op how do you just ignore kono danshi please ;_; best series tbh i re-read doukyuusei (and its two sequels) and I'M REALLY LOOKING FORWARD to it. it's like kono danshi series where it's not focused on the sexual aspects and more on the actual romance. w00per said: osomatsu-san isnt even catered towards girls lolAnime industry is definitely catering to female audience a lot more in recent years. Don't need to look at BL/yaoi anime adaptations to know. Things like Uta no Prince-sama, Free!, Osomatsu-san are wildly popular d=p it has a huge fujo fanbase because of the seiyuu hopeless408 said: bbg you really havent read enough to say that LMAObut to this day have not read a single yaoi manga with an actual solid plot. WHY HAVE NONE OF MY FUJOSHI FRIENDS READ COMPLEX YET???? UGH |
| Only seen Love Stage and it was great. Judging from other BL I've seen though, this is probably the exception. |
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Dark_Chaos said: Only seen Love Stage and it was great. Judging from other BL I've seen though, this is probably the exception. Love Stage is more like gender bender since the uke literally looks like a girl. |
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Tenshi_Shura said: LS felt like watching a straight romcom because it barely had any yaoi tropes lolDark_Chaos said: Only seen Love Stage and it was great. Judging from other BL I've seen though, this is probably the exception. Love Stage is more like gender bender since the uke literally looks like a girl. Seriously, it could pass off as a het show with how girly Izumi acted :') Plus, it actually has consent. Ryothatic said: there's more yuri being made thoughOnly if we get the same amount in yuri, then sure. Enjoy your boy's love all day if we get moar yuri. |
| Only if we get the same amount in yuri, then sure. Enjoy your boy's love all day if we get moar yuri. |
| Umm okay, I'll just wait for Yuri to get its chance then... |
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breathesunshine said: Why would it be a problem? No is being forced to watch it and some of the mangas are really good. Exactly. If yaoi is such a problem to people then they don't have to watch it. You can't claim that all these yuris have to be made but yaoi can't be made. It is stupid saying that a certain genre of anime can't be made just because some people don't agree with it. Every demographic has their own anime, so it's unfair to not make some just because SOME people are not into gay men. There are plenty of good yaoi and yuri, and both reach a demographic that is not often welcome in our society. I don't see an issue with either genre, but it is hypocritical when some people say that a specific genre shouldn't be made at all. |
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| true yaoi must be YAma nashi, Ochi nashi, Imi nashi (山[場]なし、落ちなし、意味なし?) "No peak (climax), no fall (punch line/denouement), no meaning".=no story or YAmete, Oshiri ga Itai (やめて お尻が 痛い?, "Stop, my ass hurts!"-not seeing much of this tho seriously stick to your real meaning |
bored_boredJan 2, 2016 5:11 AM
| More yaoi is fine, but they should do the same with yuri. I mean sure, there's a lot of anime with subtext (and i dont complain) but they dont adapt the good yuri mango u.u |
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Tenshi_Shura said: Dark_Chaos said: Only seen Love Stage and it was great. Judging from other BL I've seen though, this is probably the exception. Love Stage is more like gender bender since the uke literally looks like a girl. That probably played a part in it actually :/ Still, I don't consider myself averse to BL, just the common tropes it often has in Manga. |
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Mayuka said: If we're getting more, I ain't seeing it. Or more accurately, I've already seen it. We needs more, man. It's hard being a yuri fan out here.Ryothatic said: there's more yuri being made thoughOnly if we get the same amount in yuri, then sure. Enjoy your boy's love all day if we get moar yuri. |
Ryothatic said: Mayuka said: If we're getting more, I ain't seeing it. Or more accurately, I've already seen it. We needs more, man. It's hard being a yuri fan out here.there's more yuri being made though I know your pain all to well... #30characterminiumsucks |
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Ryothatic said: it's hard being a homo fan in general, when the only BL/GLs being made are fanservicyMayuka said: If we're getting more, I ain't seeing it. Or more accurately, I've already seen it. We needs more, man. It's hard being a yuri fan out here.there's more yuri being made though |
| I really wish they could stop adapting Nakamura's works all the time and adapt more of e.g. Asumiko Nakamura's and Rihito Takarai's manga I'm glad they decided to adapt Dokyuusei and Super Lovers but those anime are still basically nothing but a piss in the sea compared to the massive amount of rapey, clichéd "EVERYBODY WITH A PENIS IS GAY SO REALISIC YEYDIYEYDI" BL anime out there |
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Comic_Sans said: Asumiko Nakamura Especially: Coponicus no Kokyuu J no Subete Although both are too dark to be shown in Anime without an R17+ rating :( |
Mayuka said: Oh man, I know right? Just give me a casual homo relationship with little to no fanservice. Just good ol' fashioned romance.Ryothatic said: it's hard being a homo fan in general, when the only BL/GLs being made are fanservicyIf we're getting more, I ain't seeing it. Or more accurately, I've already seen it. We needs more, man. It's hard being a yuri fan out here. |
| I'm not against it but I wouldn't watch it either. |
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Mayuka said: I haven't read Coponicus and J yet but if the atmosphere in those two is the same as in Utsubora then yeah I can definitely see whyComic_Sans said: Asumiko Nakamura Especially: Coponicus no Kokyuu J no Subete Although both are too dark to be shown in Anime without an R17+ rating :( But you never know, maybe one of them will receive an adaptation one day |
Nico- said: Conversations with people pinging/quoting me to argue about some old post I wrote years ago will not be entertained@Comic_Sans oh no y arnt ppl dieing i need more ppl dieing rly gud plot avansement jus liek tokyo ghoul if erbudy dies amirite |
badwolf45f said: More yaoi is fine, but they should do the same with yuri. I mean sure, there's a lot of anime with subtext (and i dont complain) but they dont adapt the good yuri mango u.u For real. All the yuri manga in my favorites + Girl Friends needs to be adapted by JC Staff or someone already. Girl Friends seems like an obvious choice. While it's not one of my absolute favorites, it's really accessible (funny slice of life that's not terribly explicit). Come on, Japan. We need more good, non-crappy gay stuff. |
aikaflip said: too niche i guess? yuri anime arent exactly best sellers and i think yuri manga toobadwolf45f said: More yaoi is fine, but they should do the same with yuri. I mean sure, there's a lot of anime with subtext (and i dont complain) but they dont adapt the good yuri mango u.u For real. All the yuri manga in my favorites + Girl Friends needs to be adapted by JC Staff or someone already. Girl Friends seems like an obvious choice. While it's not one of my absolute favorites, it's really accessible (funny slice of life that's not terribly explicit). Come on, Japan. We need more good, non-crappy gay stuff. |
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romagia said: aikaflip said: For real. All the yuri manga in my favorites + Girl Friends needs to be adapted by JC Staff or someone already. Girl Friends seems like an obvious choice. While it's not one of my absolute favorites, it's really accessible (funny slice of life that's not terribly explicit). Come on, Japan. We need more good, non-crappy gay stuff. too niche i guess? yuri anime arent exactly best sellers and i think yuri manga too You're probably right. However, if something like Yuru Yuri can three seasons, I don't see why someone couldn't take a chance on adapting Girl Friends. Or maybe it would be too explicit and real for that fanbase? Eh. It seems like anime producers only like two kinds of sex: implied or fetishized. |
aikaflip said: This. It pisses me right off. It is possible to have a explicitly stated relationship between two homos without it being overly sexualized to the fifth degree, Japan.romagia said: too niche i guess? yuri anime arent exactly best sellers and i think yuri manga too You're probably right. However, if something like Yuru Yuri can three seasons, I don't see why someone couldn't take a chance on adapting Girl Friends. Or maybe it would be too explicit for that fanbase? Eh. It seems like anime producers only like two kinds of sex: implied or fetishized. |
Mayuka said: Tenshi_Shura said: LS felt like watching a straight romcom because it barely had any yaoi tropes lolLove Stage is more like gender bender since the uke literally looks like a girl. Seriously, it could pass off as a het show with how girly Izumi acted :') Plus, it actually has consent. Exactly and those girly ukes are the ones I hate the most. There are a few exceptions though like the MC of Little Butterfly. I also agree with Comic_Sans that they should stop adapting Nakamura's works. Junjou and Sekaiichi aren't even good BL and it gets annoying when they shift focus on other couples when they could use it to develop the main couple more. Right now, I feel like the mangas are getting dragged that I don't even follow it anymore. Even a simple SoL with no complex stories like Rutta to Kodama and Honto Yajuu are better than those. |
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KonaKoffee4 said: JustALEX said: I'm hell bent on protecting freedom of expression and I'm not some deluded person who thinks censorship is the proper way to deal with things I don't like nor do I allow my feelings to blur the lines between real and fiction. If there really was enough demand for yaoi anime they would make it. Or do you not understand how capitalism works? There is yaoi being made and there is a very very high demand for it. If you want your lolis then people have a right to have there yaoi. If anime is a freedom of expression then why is the argument capitalism and not the person having the right to create content? You want your lolis then fine, but don't say people can't have their yaoi because of "capitalism". Don't talk about freedom but then claim animes you don't agree with can't be made. OK....let me correct several of your erroneous remarks. First of all, I do not want "my lolis"....I'm not a fan of lolicon, the reason why I defend it is the same reason why I defend drug use, prostitution, and hell even a Neo-Nazi's right to talk all the shit he wants.....because of freedom of expression. I do NOT like censorship....especially censorship targeted at something which is completely harmless. Secondly, I didn't say that Yaoi shouldn't be made or that people can't enjoy it....my comment is more about the fact that in a capitalistic system (Which Japan is)....you first and formost serve your biggest customers. Female anime fans are in the minority....that's just the way it is. And not every female anime fan is a yaoi fan anyways. So...no...we don't need MORE yaoi....because ultimately the anime industry caters towards it's biggest customers....who are MALE. |
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