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Feb 26, 2008 1:16 AM

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THIS IS AN ANIME ONLY DISCUSSION POST. DO NOT DISCUSS THE MANGA BEYOND THIS EPISODE.
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not really as good as the last three episodes, but its still interesting to see the founding of Aria Company
 
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Feb 26, 2008 7:16 AM

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It was interesting, yeah, but not nearly as lovely as the last few episodes.

Ah well. ARIA is ARIA, and even if it's more about stuff and less about pleasantness, it's still very relaxing and gentle :)
 
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Feb 26, 2008 1:36 PM

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I really liked this one. D:
 
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Yeah, not the best episode but still good. One thing was bugging me though, Grandma was too busy as an employee of a company, so she decides to open her own company? Yeah, not a very smart solution, talk to any small business owner and they will tell you of the workload that it entails.
 
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Feb 27, 2008 5:22 PM

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So we finally get to find out how Grandma started the company. But, I still don't really understand why. Did she just want to start her own business or make President ARIA a president or just so she could share the same view with him or give him something to do? hmm...
 
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Mar 18, 2008 3:21 AM

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i really enjoyed this one as well. it was great to learn the history of Aria Co. and the passing of the torch to Akari.

 
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Jun 30, 2008 1:41 AM

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We get to see how Aria Company started! But the reason for starting it seemed too unreasonable :/

But anyway, still a good episode.
 
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Nov 16, 2008 3:36 PM

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I enjoyed this episode~ :)
It was pleasant to see the way Grandma started Aria company and how President Aria influenced her. Although it was an unreasonable start - it was still a nice episode ^_^



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Mar 10, 2009 10:35 AM

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I wept when I saw Aria sitting there all lonely.
 
Apr 21, 2009 9:44 PM

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What an amazing episode, we get to learn of Aria's founding and the the line of succession from the beginning. And to think it all started from a single plump martian cat!

 
Jun 24, 2009 3:51 PM

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sweet episode =D
Aria president so quiet long time ago hahas~


 
Aug 28, 2009 11:22 AM

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Aria was really working that raincoat.
 
Nov 22, 2009 1:57 AM

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Weird, thought this episode was one of the best of this season. Unreasonable or not.
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Jan 23, 2010 11:44 PM

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Interesting ep...


 
Mar 17, 2010 6:06 PM

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Grandma looked so beautiful when she was younger.
Life is really simple, but we insist on making it complicated.~
 
Mar 20, 2010 5:01 PM

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The fuck is up with this poll? This episode is one of the best out there. I don't know about you guys but I really liked or should I say loved this episode just like the others. Aria doesn't have any bad episode y'know? :)

Few things I loved in this episode were:
1. Neo-Burano. It's good to see a place other than Neo-Venezia. It's also good to see Anna and her family. I guess she was the one who thought of the pole idea but didn't get to finish it.
2. Grandma. Oh that past sure was lovely. Teenager Grandma sure was hot, she's in the level of Alicia or even better, lol. I wonder how she got her height now. She's like less than double of her size when she was young.
3. Aria. Damn son how old are you now, lol. I wonder why Aria stayed in that one spot back then and didn't say a thing to Grandma. I wonder what's up.

I think this episode is foreshadowing something. In the end when the "Aria" girls talked about Akari's own Aria company, I guess Akari's going to become a prima and teach a junior also. Ai maybe? GOSH I CAN'T WAIT FOR THAT. D:<
 
Mar 29, 2010 6:06 PM

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Wow, grandma shrunk by like 2 feet from her prime.

I didn't realize that Aria Company had 2 employees, in addition to Grandma, at one time. But why do I get this feeling that Alicia has to leave when Akari becomes a prima?
 
Apr 12, 2010 4:20 AM

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BRS_CHIYO said:
So we finally get to find out how Grandma started the company. But, I still don't really understand why. Did she just want to start her own business or make President ARIA a president or just so she could share the same view with him or give him something to do? hmm...
It's very simple what happened. She was working so much and hard at Himeya Company that she never got to enjoy what was around her. She she ran into President Aria she saw in him what she was missing, and it dawned on her when she saw the Martian sunrise. One does not live to work, but work to live (yeah, I know that sounds cliche'). Thus Aria Company was born for her to do what she loves (gondolering) but without all the work. She could focus on what's around her, about what's around the city and can work however she wants.

I did love this episodes because of seeing all four employees of Aria Company. I didn't know there was one between Grandma and Alicia. Grandma actually trained two Undines. :). Akira is now the next in line to run Aria when Alica leaves.
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May 12, 2010 11:29 AM

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Watching this episode on my 3rd run through of the series, I realised plenty of flaws with this episode.

1) When Anna left the company, Alicia was already a Prima, which could not have been the case according to Aria the OVA Arietta, because she supposedly made a selfish remark that did not want Grandma to sta. In other words, when Alicia became a Prima, Grandma already left, meaning it would have been impossible for Anna to apologise for her selfishness!

2) Aria was with the company when founded, which was when Grandma was a 17 year veteran of the business. Judging by the Primas' ages, this would mean that that was when she was around her mid 30s. By then, Aria was already a grown car, ie, not a kitten, meaning that as of this episode, Aria is well over 30 years old. Downright impossible if you ask me. This also means that Aria is actualy a perverted old man chasing after Hime like that, and that Maa has a weird crush on an old man.

3) Of course, the inconsistency of Grandma's height continues, with this episode being the most obvious. In previous seasons, she is shown to be shorter than Alice, obviously very different from what this episode has shown, possibly being as tall as Akira.

4) Alicia was handed down the company by Grandma. So, in other words, since its existence, Aria company has 5 known employees, Grandma, Alicia, Akari, Anna, and the unknown one that made the palina plans back in Natural. So, why did all the other Undines leave the company? Grandma must have been one hell of a slave driver to get the other Undines out of the company. This also means that in 30 years of its establishment, Grandma could not find a successor till Alicia, which was not logical again, because Anna was supposedly better/more popular than Alicia. meaning she would have been the better successor.
 
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not really good!? O.o,this is i think the 3rd best episode of all the 3 seasons...Aria the origination is just unbelivable :)

1.Aria the animation...ep9 i think(the one where they meet grandma)
2.Aria the origination...ep6
3.Aria the origination...ep7
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not really good!? O.o,this is i think the 3rd best episode of all the 3 seasons...Aria the origination is just unbelivable :)

1.Aria the animation...ep9 i think(the one where they meet grandma)
2.Aria the origination...ep6
3.Aria the origination...ep7

5/5

PS:i forgot to mention the amazing insert song:)
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=m0pF8YJ2peE&feature=related
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Sayonara,papa!


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Despite being an "Anime Only" episode which doesn't follow the manga with anime only characters as Anna and her family is introduced, it was a very good episode none the less. I didn't enjoy it as much as I did for the last 6 episodes and seemed to have some flaws in it, but it sure was good to see Grandma in her younger days yet again.

 
May 15, 2011 2:15 AM

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Aria doesn't have any bad episode doesn't it and it's interesting to know how ARIA Company is founded. I totally enjoyed this one too :)
 
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I love this Anime so much
Even when I was in crowd, I was always alone
 
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rabbitpoets said:
Wow, grandma shrunk by like 2 feet from her prime.

I didn't realize that Aria Company had 2 employees, in addition to Grandma, at one time. But why do I get this feeling that Alicia has to leave when Akari becomes a prima?


I get this feeling more and more through this season. It seems she's going to leave after Akari become a Prima, it will be sad.
 
Nov 3, 2012 5:39 PM

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I wept when I saw Aria sitting there all lonely.


Same here. :'(

And I feel that the whole marriage situation foreshadows what will happen to Alicia. Maybe she's going to meet someone in the next few episodes? Akari's Aria Company definitely hints that Alicia is going to move on soon.
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Jan 6, 2013 5:35 AM

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That was an amazing episode! Really loved the backstory of aria and Grandma!
 
Sep 29, 2013 5:39 PM

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Another nice episode. It was interesting to catch a glimpse of the past, Grandma was gorgeous. Also like how it showed how she met President Aria. What I got from this episode is that Grandma was a very busy prima at Himeya and often was too busy to just enjoy herself to the fullest. It was because she met Aria that she was able to realize the simple enjoyment of savoring each moment and experience and decided to open up her own very small business in order to do so.

Next episode looks silly, Alice and Athena are always amusing to watch together.
 
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So what was up with President Aria? Was he depressed? Lonely?

President Aria remains an enigma.
 
Jan 1, 2014 4:52 PM

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Watching this episode on my 3rd run through of the series, I realised plenty of flaws with this episode.

1) When Anna left the company, Alicia was already a Prima, which could not have been the case according to Aria the OVA Arietta, because she supposedly made a selfish remark that did not want Grandma to sta. In other words, when Alicia became a Prima, Grandma already left, meaning it would have been impossible for Anna to apologise for her selfishness!

2) Aria was with the company when founded, which was when Grandma was a 17 year veteran of the business. Judging by the Primas' ages, this would mean that that was when she was around her mid 30s. By then, Aria was already a grown car, ie, not a kitten, meaning that as of this episode, Aria is well over 30 years old. Downright impossible if you ask me. This also means that Aria is actualy a perverted old man chasing after Hime like that, and that Maa has a weird crush on an old man.

3) Of course, the inconsistency of Grandma's height continues, with this episode being the most obvious. In previous seasons, she is shown to be shorter than Alice, obviously very different from what this episode has shown, possibly being as tall as Akira.

4) Alicia was handed down the company by Grandma. So, in other words, since its existence, Aria company has 5 known employees, Grandma, Alicia, Akari, Anna, and the unknown one that made the palina plans back in Natural. So, why did all the other Undines leave the company? Grandma must have been one hell of a slave driver to get the other Undines out of the company. This also means that in 30 years of its establishment, Grandma could not find a successor till Alicia, which was not logical again, because Anna was supposedly better/more popular than Alicia. meaning she would have been the better successor.


I know you posted this a while ago, but the majority of the "flaws" you pointed out are not flaws. I'll just address your points as a favor for the lurkers browsing this forum:

1. In this episode, Anna, who was a Prima, left the company soon after Alicia became a Prima. We also saw that Grandma was still there. Then in the OVA, we saw Grandma retire, leaving Alicia (as a Prima) in charge of the company. Anna had already left. So in summary, when Alicia became Prima, Anna left, and then Grandma eventually retired and left as well. I'm not seeing any inconsistencies here.

2. Dude. Aria is a work of fiction. It's can't be "impossible" for a cat to be over 30 years old. I mean, Cait Sith has been the king of the cats for over 100 years, so for all we know, he may be several centuries old. And the interactions between the company presidents are primarily for comic relief, so don't take them too seriously.

3. The "inconsistencies" in height that you see are just Grandma being shown at different stages of her life. She clearly grows shorter as she ages. As a Prima, she was probably as tall as Akira like you said. When she retired, she was slightly shorter than Alicia. Now, she is much, much shorter than Alicia. Nothing surprising here.

4. Anna left because she married the fisherman. She may have been more popular than Alicia, but she left by choice (for a selfish reason, like you said). She's still on good terms with Grandma. Besides, if Grandma had been a slave driver back then, she wouldn't have let Anna go. We can presume that the other employees left by choice as well, because I doubt every employee of Aria Company intended to pursue a career as an undine. Alicia was the only one serious about becoming one, so she became the successor.
 
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That guy tried to be so rational, but his comment was ridiculous. Old people being short is a common trope in manga and anime. And on top of that, if we was able to watch until this episode, I wonder how he didn't have any problem with all the fantastic background in The Natural. You can't explain that dead lady taking Akari to some graveyard, only to be saved by a cat the size of a grizzly bear.

The problem is, when you try to act smart you normally reveal you're not precisely the most brilliant kid on the block.
 
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I wept when I saw Aria sitting there all lonely.


Omg so was i
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Jan 6, 2015 6:33 PM
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Aria shachou T_T
 
Mar 12, 2015 8:05 AM

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Gotta love how Anna was teasing her son.

Grandma used to be hawt! She still is cute tho.

Dat insert song <3

That was a rather vague reason to open Aria company tho. I mean, she saud it was entirely due to Aria shachou but never told how or why. One of the weaker episodes considering that point.
 
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Animefreak17a said:
Scud said:
I wept when I saw Aria sitting there all lonely.


Omg so was i

Count me in on that :(

Great episode.
 
May 6, 2015 2:10 PM

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So what was up with President Aria? Was he depressed? Lonely?

President Aria remains an enigma.

just braindead

Pleasant ep, nice scene for Akari at the end :>
 
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Wow Grandma used to be hot and one of Himeya's best undine i'd say.. but age really matters heh. Also Grandma's name is revealed, Akino! another A-name eh, i couldn't find an undine without 'A' in their first name, even those who works on special traghetto.
Also cheers to the seiyuu, no change for a young Grandma.
 
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Sweet episode, Grandma was so damn pretty when she was younger.
 
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Nice to see everyone together for the first time.
I wish there a whole anime about Grandma. oh, well ... :)
 
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Anna's son looks reminded me of Misty from Pokemon lol.

And we finally know how Aria company was started. This one to me deserves to be in the top 5 episodes of the entire Aria series.

Grandma shrinks by like 2 ft? Young Grandma was beautiful, imo more than Akira but wow now she's like small. Idk if bones shrink since I've never seen a person shrink in real life.

 
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Grandma was quite pretty when she was younger! So we finally learned the origins of the Aria Company, which all started from her fateful meeting with President Aria.
 
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definetely favourite episode of this season. Damn i love Aria and Grandma
 
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A++ episode for me, hit me on a personal level. One of the best in this season.

Just seeing a big reunion of most of the Aria employee's on its anniversary was so great to watch. I also enjoyed seeing Neo-Burano and its unique culture even if it was just a glimpse.

So, why was President Aria sitting there the whole time? I think the ragged coat implied he was there for quite a bit waiting for Grandma to notice. Considering there's like a secret cat society in the background guiding/helping the people, I'm starting to think they noticed Grandma's busy performance over the years and started to worry about her so they planted one of their own. I hope this is the case... it really seemed like Aria has just given up on life for a bit but he swayed her towards choosing a new life so clearly he was just trying to show her something else. It's quite ambiguous with how they showed it, it's pretty nice they did it this way as anybody can internalize to why Aria was sitting there.

Also, yeah opening up a small business is really hardcore by yourself in reality, but I'd like to believe the technology Neo-Venezia has reduced the heavy burden of the tasks needed plus it's like Sci-fi lol.

I really enjoyed the use of that insert song, it was really fitting because of its use in the OVA signified watching things change in the setting. Here it's used to establish the change from Grandma's employment at Himeya to forming Aria Company. Thought it elevated the scene and my love for it grows even more.

Overall, hearing about the history of the company and its origins as "hey man, just chill and enjoy life to the fullest." Feels really nice.
 
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A beautiful episode!
I loved it!
It was great seeing all the undine from Aria Company in the same room, and a bit sad too thiniking that Grandma and Anna retired a long time ago, and Alicia will do that in the future too.
 
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Another nice episode. I like how new characters are being introduced so often in this season.

Aria shachou really let himself go over the years! He was pretty slim back in the day.

Pet theory/head canon: Martians, a dying species, took the form of intelligent, cats in order to co-exist with and study the newly arriving humans. They zeroed in on interesting subjects and won their trust by imitating cute animal behaviour. Currently they subject some of the humans to the occasional experiment, and monitor how they react (e.g., Akari going back to the past temporarily). Someday, maybe, they will reveal themselves for what they truly are. Meanwhile, they enjoy the free food and belly rubs. Life as a pet cat might be the way to go.

Aria-shachou, after taking a while to get used to his new form (hence staying stuck in one place), chose to study Grandma, and played to her weaknesses/possibly used Martian mind control (remember Akari coming under Cait Sith's spell?) to get her to build a separate house (might also explain where the funds came from) for isolated study. Cait Sith, the leader of the Martians, is especially interested in Akari as a subject.
 
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I don't understand why Aria Shachou is just staring at the sky without moving an inch
I thought he's waiting for someone or something.. But apparently not

It was a nice episode though
Grandma backstory was pretty nice!
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Loved it to see the founding of Aria company.
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Oct 27, 2017 9:27 AM

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LOL, how old is Aria, he looked gangsta in the rain.

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The last minute of this beautifully changes the meaning of the whole episode. Whoever wrote this is a brilliant person.
 
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